tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post8366132730022456725..comments2008-03-24T16:55:03.852ZComments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: Told You So...Guido Fawkeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15091277669318213298noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-63352378349621762292008-03-24T16:55:00.000Z2008-03-24T16:55:00.000ZTo the anonymong who doesn't like swearing (never ...To the anonymong who doesn't like swearing (never lived life to the full):<BR/><BR/>Fuck off cunt.That goes to the twat who knows fuck all about the biggest city in the Midlands, and who the fuck owns it.<BR/><BR/>GaryGary Elsby stokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-63895944538192796292008-03-24T11:29:00.000Z2008-03-24T11:29:00.000Z"11:18 AM, March 21, 2008"Gary proves yet again th..."11:18 AM, March 21, 2008"<BR/><BR/>Gary proves yet again that the only interesting thing in Stoke is Oatcakes, even your local Pub Chirper fucked off to LA La Land.<BR/><BR/>I suspect you are the rough beast who slouches through the wasteland, unfortunately Gary, your time has bin and gone.<BR/><BR/>Twat!<BR/><BR/>sghpiyrg1lgam3shnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-49691155598945030142008-03-23T18:50:00.000Z2008-03-23T18:50:00.000ZAnon 5.34If you read the subject of ths thread, it...Anon 5.34<BR/><BR/>If you read the subject of ths thread, it is a little bit of an important subject. That's the reason posters swear. And there ain't nothing cutting edge about the economic meltdown that Unlabour has delivered to us. It is what Unlabour (old or New) do. Always have done. They spunk the money up the wall while the Tories have to pick up the pieces and set the economy straight (and don't bother moaning about Black Monday, it's an illegal phrase under Unlabour's Uman Wrongs Act, you open youself up to prosecution). We have to pay for this shit in hard cash, not like the dole-ite chavs that are the voting base of Unlabour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-31353903425891919672008-03-23T17:34:00.000Z2008-03-23T17:34:00.000ZSee people who think adding a swear-word or two to...See people who think adding a swear-word or two to a very dull post somehow makes it interesting and cutting-edge...<BR/><BR/>Deluded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-69374885870149788932008-03-23T16:30:00.000Z2008-03-23T16:30:00.000ZLast Updated: Sunday, 23 March 2008, 13:33 GMTE-ma...Last Updated: Sunday, 23 March 2008, 13:33 GMT<BR/>E-mail this to a friend Printable version<BR/>Impaled man is taken to hospital<BR/>An 18-year-old man has been taken to hospital after his backside was impaled on iron railings in Stoke-on-Trent.<BR/>this is on the bbc home page as i write. i sincerely hope this isn't someone we know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-51849990515108142862008-03-23T16:02:00.000Z2008-03-23T16:02:00.000ZKeynesian nonsense is what got us into this mess. ...Keynesian nonsense is what got us into this mess. It is amazing that even libertarians and "conservatives" have bought into this idea that we can spend our way to prosperity and that saving money is bad. The idea a "growth package" would help is precisely the kind of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place.Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12130319912064587811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-49629767175072819272008-03-23T14:09:00.000Z2008-03-23T14:09:00.000ZGary,"Fuck you all"I'm not a Tory for starters.I'v...Gary,<BR/><BR/>"Fuck you all"<BR/><BR/>I'm not a Tory for starters.<BR/><BR/>I've just been down the pub this fine Easter discussing such luminaries as Nietzsche, Plato and Persig.<BR/><BR/>We came to the conclusion that that they were all spouting bollocks and it was Orwell was right after all, and that his work was embedded in the national curriculum for a reason - to warn us that the most predatory will always prevail. None more predatory than the Nu Lab hierarchy nowadays.<BR/><BR/>YOU fuck off.electro-kevinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-70116307219405814822008-03-23T12:29:00.000Z2008-03-23T12:29:00.000ZROFLMFAO!!!If you weren't such a cunt spouting suc...ROFLMFAO!!!<BR/><BR/>If you weren't such a cunt spouting such ridiculous utter pus I would be inclined to answer you, but as it is...<BR/><BR/>ROFLMFAO!!!<BR/><BR/>What a cunt you are Elsby...and again...<BR/><BR/>ROFLMFAO!!!Shotgunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13195449995290263185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-52292580813992422292008-03-23T12:06:00.000Z2008-03-23T12:06:00.000ZAnother bunch of shite from the Tory apologist and...Another bunch of shite from the Tory apologist and gobshite known as shitgun.<BR/><BR/>Labour fights the BNP all over this country and just for fun, we heap shite all over the Tories.<BR/><BR/>Why not just give up you Tory tossers and come over to a responsible party that the country trusts to run it?<BR/><BR/>Dave and G-i-d-e-o-n don't stand a fucking chance with knobs like Willie and Gove at the rudder.<BR/><BR/>Wankers.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-85296322862922987442008-03-22T17:53:00.000Z2008-03-22T17:53:00.000ZAnonymous Gary Elsby stoke said... How very Co...<I>Anonymous Gary Elsby stoke said...<BR/><BR/> How very Conservative of you all.Stoke is similar to all traditional inner cities with a base of heavy industry that has China to contend with.Let's not forget sub-prime loans.</I><BR/><BR/>Don't you get it yet you fucking cock sucking doley scum Labour fucking mong?<BR/><BR/>You don't have to be Tory to hate Labour nowadays...there are even ex-Labour MP's and unionists who fucking hate the twats, and utter twats like you.<BR/><BR/>Keep telling yourself it is all the Tories fault you poor sad wanker, but a look in the fucking mirror would be a more truthful visage to apportion blame to...cunt.Shotgunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13195449995290263185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-22337636056912655982008-03-22T16:34:00.000Z2008-03-22T16:34:00.000ZOooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh! Gary, touchy aren't we...Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh! Gary, touchy aren't we, bugger off, Snotgobbler is probably waiting at Chequers for you! Socialist hypocrites, all of them.i hate l;abournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-19079979861041496812008-03-22T14:46:00.000Z2008-03-22T14:46:00.000ZHow very Conservative of you all.Stoke is similar ...How very Conservative of you all.Stoke is similar to all traditional inner cities with a base of heavy industry that has China to contend with.Let's not forget sub-prime loans.<BR/><BR/>The BNP (national front)have done what Oswald Mosley did years ago and that is to manipulate the transition to regeneration.<BR/><BR/>Woman on a sinking raft, makes the pathetic mistake, like others before, that the people running the City are the Labour mmbership. We think they are wank too.<BR/><BR/>Shotton has been convicted of cruelty to a dog. He was removed from the Labour Group forthwith, pending an appeal.Remember, justice and all that.<BR/><BR/>Spout nonsense, but please don't promote Tory crap. It's bad for my health.<BR/><BR/>By the way, who is the front runner for Labour in any Mayoral race?<BR/><BR/>Fuck you all.<BR/><BR/>GaryGary Elsby stokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-57130224466022633392008-03-22T12:21:00.000Z2008-03-22T12:21:00.000ZBill Murphy discussing Stoke on Trent in his book ...Bill Murphy discussing Stoke on Trent in his book “Home Truths”:<BR/><BR/>“A friend who used to work in Stoke summed up the Potteries in his own words. ‘Your average Potteries resident is similar to a Scouser in many ways, in that they will rob you and they don’t seem to mind living in a dump, but the big difference is that they don’t have a sense of humour and the nightlife is shit’.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-82577633157110019902008-03-22T11:59:00.000Z2008-03-22T11:59:00.000Z45govt:Possibly, possibly, but Labour would be rel...45govt:<BR/><BR/>Possibly, possibly, but Labour would be reluctant to lose even one councillor they can count on. It holds only 24 seats but good discipline usually means successful minority control. The mayoral system in Stoke delivers unusual power to that office (it is slightly different to the cabinet system elsewhere), so despite what Gary says, the city can be regarded as Labour controlled. However, the loss of even a single seat makes life much more difficult, so it suits the Labour group to have Shotton agreeing to vote with them but not to be under their whip. Had Shotton been a Conservative, they would have been er, hounding him out. <BR/><BR/>What Gary has not reported on is why a city which was solid Labour and spends 10 years under a Labour government, then votes for all sorts, including an unusually strong and organized BNP group. <BR/><BR/>Stoke is in many ways a model of the rest of England; if Labour are not holding there, then the next round of local elections is going to be a very bad news indeed, despite the excellent tractor output, the low inflation and the superb and instant healthcare which is available.woman on a raftnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-42829271713549690132008-03-22T09:50:00.000Z2008-03-22T09:50:00.000ZThere is no such thing as a 'credit crunch'. This ...There is no such thing as a 'credit crunch'. This is a phrase told to proles to keep them quiet as their bubble economy reality collapses in on itself like the house at the end of 'Poltergeist'. We have a derivatives catastropheof armageddon style proportions. The countries of the earth are technically broke twice over. It's all about derivatives Moulder! Fear never broke an economy, bad economic theory always does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-24971065601882811142008-03-22T02:30:00.000Z2008-03-22T02:30:00.000ZGary should note that the majority of people feel ...Gary should note that the majority of people feel that Britain has been changed beyond recognition and certainly not for the better since Nu Lab came to power. Hence the Burberry Jack.<BR/><BR/>It's screamingly obvious to me that Nu Labs economic 'miracle' has been based on:<BR/><BR/>- making the country overcrowded<BR/><BR/>- allowing easy lending of money backed by property inflation (inflation caused in no small part by the aforementioned overcrowding)<BR/><BR/>How is that a good thing ?<BR/><BR/>I'm glad that there wasn't an early election and that Brown bottled it because now he's stuck at the helm as the rudder comes off. Of late he's been looking as guilty as a puppy next to a pile of poo.<BR/><BR/>I doubt he's getting much sleep.electro-kevinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-55907197194473681172008-03-22T01:00:00.000Z2008-03-22T01:00:00.000ZWOAR - "Shotton resisted calls to resign his seat...WOAR - "Shotton resisted calls to resign his seat" - would there be some emoluments attached to this seat, such as perhaps this learned councillor would not be able to match were he to offer his "skills" on the open market?45govthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10628604286051915366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-85422779030071232682008-03-22T00:35:00.000Z2008-03-22T00:35:00.000ZHowever, I notice (and so does the entire country,...<I>However, I notice (and so does the entire country, now)your description of 'conservative/independant'.</I><BR/><BR/>The entire county? Fame at last. Alas, the classification isn't original - it is the one on the Stoke City Council website. It didn't mention sex offences, but then it also didn't mention the Dec 2007 conviction of Cllr Paul Shotton for causing unnecessary suffering to his dog. Cllr Shotton is appealing the conviction. He immediately resigned the Labour whip and from his post as deputy of the Labour group, but resisted calls for him to resign his seat.<BR/><BR/>Note: the RSPCA has mounted some questionable prosecutions recently and now has several critics. The Shotton case had costs of £3,000 awarded agains Shotton, but that's a gamble which donors may not be aware of. <BR/><BR/>As you speak for the Labour party in Stoke, Gary, perhaps you can give us a whisper on how the appeal is going?woman on a raftnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-11211714863158260492008-03-21T22:13:00.000Z2008-03-21T22:13:00.000ZGary Elsby has a novel way of backing the Labour P...Gary Elsby has a novel way of backing the Labour Party:<BR/><BR/>"We may be shit! But I expect that if the Tory Party was in power, they'd be even more shit than us!"<BR/><BR/>But Gary, that does NOT mean that Labour are not shit, does it?M person of no fixed political abodenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-69407313286705692862008-03-21T20:25:00.000Z2008-03-21T20:25:00.000Zgary elsby seems to be misinformed and repeats the...gary elsby seems to be misinformed and repeats the mantra about 'full employment'......there are roughly 1.5m on the dole,2m+on the sick and 2m that do not or are not allowed to claim.please do not tell me this is full employment or it was worse under the tories- i do not like them much either-just stop repeating stupid lies.......we are much better than that!!<BR/>boflAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-72163086604603358612008-03-21T19:46:00.000Z2008-03-21T19:46:00.000ZThese fucktards couldn't run a cold tap let alone ...These fucktards couldn't run a cold tap let alone the economy.<BR/><BR/>They know they are going to be shafted in the next election and they want to fuck up the country as quickly as possible so that Cameron is left wading in a world of shit; while Snotgobbler and his marxist cronies sit smirking from the opposition benches, knowing they were responsible for more than a decade of economic fuckwittery that will have near bankrupted the country.Ratsniffernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-49704851529821385982008-03-21T18:59:00.000Z2008-03-21T18:59:00.000ZThe economy is shafted? Whatever do you mean? Da...The economy is shafted? Whatever do you mean? Darling said everything was fine and we shouldn't worry about a thing.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, Gordon Brown would turn in his grave...Gooey Blobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11942258874510613070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-73836795701777213322008-03-21T18:49:00.000Z2008-03-21T18:49:00.000ZWill you lot stop telling Elsby to get a job inste...Will you lot stop telling Elsby to get a job instead of living on benefits?<BR/><BR/>I'm quite happy to pay for him to sit around on his spotty lard arse smoking, wanking and trolling on this blog if it keeps him away from employment somewhere he might actually be able to do some damage.<BR/><BR/>The economy is quite shafted enough as it is without the likes of Elsby being let loose to fuck it up even more.keep elsby on the dolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-27030925240653970772008-03-21T18:48:00.000Z2008-03-21T18:48:00.000Zwell at least the potters are doing well even if s...well at least the potters are doing well even if stoke is responsible for gary.<BR/><BR/>let me just say that at the time i hated thatcher , but when all the tales came out of bloated job stats were , the waste at british leyland , i began to see that it was affecting our exports and it needed sorting. <BR/><BR/>kinnock offered socialism , he never gave any figs or fuck all about ecnomics ,just went on full employment (remember lying wind bag prescott promising that 4 years ago before indulging his secretary)<BR/><BR/>smith sort of went intellectual and then passed away , and then blair appeared , more or less said that thatcher ended up bringing much more prosperity.<BR/><BR/>so doesnt it tell somthing that thatcher was pretty much right.<BR/><BR/>with brown and co they drop you in the shit telling you it will be alright , and then when its not working out blame it on some other fucking event .<BR/><BR/>as for election predictions , brown has run out of myths , we are in serious ecnomic shit because of his debt and spend enomics and it will be round his fucking neck and nu labours. he can only tax and borrow now to shore the whole shit heap up .<BR/><BR/>they have lied and been found out , the new polit bureau is not worth a wank idealogically becuase its running out of fake road .<BR/><BR/>as for nu labours 25 million debt , fuck me doesnt that say it all , no wonder they are wanting to end big donar politics , by the time this little numbers been looked at more thouroughly , wikipedia will have 50 refeneces to brown /nu labaour as proven failed ideaology .<BR/><BR/>nu labour are crashing and burning and taking us poor fuckers along on the ride .red despot spotternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212152.post-73278375436140102202008-03-21T17:47:00.000Z2008-03-21T17:47:00.000ZOk, ok so woman on a raft knows a bit about my bel...Ok, ok so woman on a raft knows a bit about my beloved Stoke.<BR/><BR/>However, I notice (and so does the entire country, now)your description of 'conservative/independant'.<BR/><BR/>It shall be noted, my care here in offwering my own description...<BR/><BR/>SEX OFFENDERS REGISTER.(kids the lot!)but enough of CCHQ tricks (2 tory partys).<BR/><BR/>Labour Party policy (stoke-on-trent) NO CITY ACADEMIES.(hello?)<BR/><BR/>I do not support what the Mayor has done and we await our referendum on him.(note-The UK is not allowed a Mayor of our model and making).<BR/><BR/>Further Note: Check out the election list, published soon.<BR/><BR/>Further note: As is shown Labour does not run Stoke.The Tories do, along with their alliance friends and they shut schools, care homes and surestart and kiddies paddling pools.<BR/><BR/>Have fun wankers.<BR/><BR/>GaryGary Elsby stokenoreply@blogger.com