Comments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: 200 Pledge to Back Private Prosecution

Thought this might interest you Guido:In Chantrey ...

2007-08-09T09:52:00.000+01:00

Thought this might interest you Guido:

In Chantrey Vellacott v The Convergence Group and others [2007] EWHC 1774, Rimer J ordered a company director personally to pay, on an indemnity basis, the costs of a failed negligence action brought by his companies against their former accountants. The costs were also to include the costs of a failed mediation. The negligence claim had been a huge counterclaim in response to a modest claim for unpaid professional fees. The judge found that the director was the real party to the litigation and had dishonestly put forward a case which stood no chance of success.

The case is a useful example of when a company director can be ordered to pay costs as a non-party: an area which the courts have admitted that they find difficult. It also illustrates the circumstances in which applications for indemnity costs and costs of a failed mediation are likely to succeed. Finally, it serves as a warning to solicitors to consider carefully with director clients whether they might face similar costs orders if they insist on their companies pursuing speculative or difficult claims.

A thought occurs that the nulab trolls should be i...

2007-08-07T19:02:00.000+01:00

A thought occurs that the nulab trolls should be in favour of this private prosecution - wouldn't they be happy to see Mr. Fawkes publicly humiliated since there's "obviously" no case to answer

You pull curtains across, you don't pull curtains ...

2007-08-03T17:22:00.000+01:00

You pull curtains across, you don't pull curtains down (or if you do, it doesn't obscure). You pull blinds down.

(Your own neat metaphors have not gone unnoticed, though, hang-out.)

Whatever be the metaphor juste for hiding facts from the public, I do not like the obscuring or hiding of what actually happened in 'Cash for Honours'.

I do not like it one little bit.

in memeory of tiddles and comfy socks 12:21 PM, Au...

2007-08-03T16:01:00.000+01:00

in memeory of tiddles and comfy socks 12:21 PM, August 03

"in memory of Tiddles and comfy socks"

this tag will have real resonance with real englishmen

6:05 PM, August 01("Blinds", btw, not "curtains" -...

2007-08-03T15:48:00.000+01:00

6:05 PM, August 01

("Blinds", btw, not "curtains" - I got the metaphor wrong in an earlier post. The curtains would be for transparency, for democracy - which involves us, the people, learning the true facts of alleged goings-on like this.)

I think that when one has to measure up a metaphor as assiduously as this it is unlikely to be as fitting as one which comes to mind ready made - though I'm sure that all of us can agree that we would prefer it to be curtains for New Labour.

anonymous 2:55AM, August 01Otherwise, democracy is...

2007-08-03T15:33:00.000+01:00

anonymous 2:55AM, August 01

Otherwise, democracy is truly dead in this country, and there stretches ahead for our nation a future in which obscuring curtains can at will be pulled down over anything in the sphere of activities by or around a Government that the Government would much rather the electorate didn't know.

The electorate would probably rather not know about the majority of what Gordon Brown gets up to behind closed doors.

anonymous 8:42 AM, August 01If there really is no ...

2007-08-03T15:21:00.000+01:00

anonymous 8:42 AM, August 01

If there really is no evidence against anyone, why would anyone object to the evidence that does exist being put before a court?

I can definitely see the sense in this argument.

Why is no-one insisting on a trial to clear their name?

Maybe they don't consider themselves to have names worth clearing.

the reverend doctor 7:14AM, August 01If principles...

2007-08-03T15:12:00.000+01:00

the reverend doctor 7:14AM, August 01

If principles mattered you would elicit support to prosecute Blair for war crimes against humanity. I rather suspect that if there were a God he'd be a lot more concerned about the deaths of thousands of innocent children, women and men in Iraq than whether or not X, Y or Z thought they might be preferred if they made a donation to the Gov't. Do let's a sense of perspective!

Quite, reverend, we should pick something upon which the common man can put his finger, something he can grasp, something he can digest, something tangible, something into which we can all really get our teeth...something...like a prosecution against Gordon Brown, the man who appalled a generation by shamelessly eating a bogie in front of the entire nation, leaving innocent men, women and young children with post traumatic stress, nightmares and the need for counselling sessions with psychiatrists and group hugs; Guido, we should immediately instigate a private action against the Prime Minister for public indecency.

ratty the third said...What you need friend is a b...

2007-08-03T15:01:00.000+01:00

ratty the third said...

What you need friend is a bottle of Co-op Rum and a nice pair of Co-op Comfy Socks.Bit of jazz on the CD Player,preferably Bix and the gang,and the world will become a better place.For a while anyway.

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You presume I am not in favour of the latter solution, what does it take to wake the masses from their Eastenders Opiate Comatose State, but please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste....pleased to meet you can you guess my name :)

Anonymous said...the sooner it all descends into v...

2007-08-03T12:52:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...the sooner it all descends into violence and anarchy the better.

What you need friend is a bottle of Co-op Rum and a nice pair of Co-op Comfy Socks.Bit of jazz on the CD Player,preferably Bix and the gang,and the world will become a better place.For a while anyway.

Anonymous said... pensioners are us said: A lot of...

2007-08-03T12:21:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...

pensioners are us said: A lot of really badly written, misspelled and boring stuff-Were you not taught how to punctuate at the Secondary Modern?

Also, the "Pensioner" persona isn't really working-its boring, vapid and unfunny. The use of the Matron cliche is particularly dull.

Try harder you try hard cunt-if you're going to shoot the king, make sure you kill him.

Thanks for replying.I agree spelling,punctuation and the like not one of my strong points.Education was to say the least minimal.Poor health and not much in the way of money didn't help.The pensioner,matron bit now bloody boring,dropped as of now,thanks for the feedback.I have decided to go with the "in memory of Tiddles and comfy socks",what do think ?

in memory of tiddles and comfy socks said...Not co...

2007-08-02T21:51:00.000+01:00

in memory of tiddles and comfy socks said...

Not cowards,greedy and selfish.That started with Maggie, and continued with all who followed.Blair was the last straw with many.I am Labour but that man did untold damage.Gordon could yet make amends.We are not as nice as once we were,or as happy.

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Cowardice, greed and selfishness, Soldiers given poor quality accommodation or told to remove uniform in case of offence, Blackpool teenage girl allegedly murdered and chopped up for kebabs, Scottish teenager castrated and set on fire and left to die, BAE inquiry quashed and now US DoJ investigate, Christmas banned at every opportunity, homosexuality to be taught to primary school kids, kids running wild shooting and stabbing each other and innocent people, school kids getting beaten to be further humiliated on YouTube the list goes on and on all in the past ten years to the shame of this group of "Marxists and Liberals ".

No I think cowardice, spineless, ignorant and unpatriotic covers it far more than greed and selfishness, but when you stick your head in the sand and let those in charge get away with it perhaps the sooner it all descends into violence and anarchy the better.

pensioners are us said: A lot of really badly writ...

2007-08-02T17:41:00.000+01:00

pensioners are us said: A lot of really badly written, misspelled and boring stuff-Were you not taught how to punctuate at the Secondary Modern?

Also, the "Pensioner" persona isn't really working-its boring, vapid and unfunny. The use of the Matron cliche is particularly dull.

Try harder you try hard cunt-if you're going to shoot the king, make sure you kill him.

Anonymous said...it just about sums up the cowardl...

2007-08-02T15:14:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...it just about sums up the cowardly nature of a large majority of the population of Britain these days,

Not cowards,greedy and selfish.That started with Maggie, and continued with all who followed.Blair was the last straw with many.I am Labour but that man did untold damage.Gordon could yet make amends.We are not as nice as once we were,or as happy.

pensioners are us said:Your daft lad,you have (had...

2007-08-02T12:42:00.000+01:00

pensioners are us said:

Your daft lad,you have (had) the likes of "the hitch", that was the guy who jumped ship.Shotgun,a laugh a minute if you tried to collect on any pledge that cretin made.There is the lovely Julian,changes his pic and his hairstyle and thinks he matters.

So what if they are armchair radicals who balk at the idea when it comes to putting money where their mouth is..really it just about sums up the cowardly nature of a large majority of the population of Britain these days, a little more pain won't hurt them, blow up tubes and where's the rage, blow up airports and not a peep, 100's of soldiers dead and maimed and still the silence is deafening.

So let them all pull out then as one avenue closes another (preferred) one opens...my preference. Czech Made Mate !!

nempnet thrubwell said... Dear readers the origina...

2007-08-02T12:06:00.000+01:00

nempnet thrubwell said...
Dear readers the original nempnet thrubwell posted at 6.46pm. A guttersnipe plagiarist posted comments at the times shown above which in no way reflect the views of the real nempnet thrubwell. End of.

You shouldn't have called me a "nutter",I was hurt.

Anonymous said... One of the Issues with an Order ...

2007-08-02T11:57:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...

One of the Issues with an Order of Mandamus

Piss off.

Anonymous said... Yes Anon 200 but would you like ...

2007-08-02T11:56:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...

Yes Anon 200 but would you like to bet that within the 200 there are Lawyers, Barristers, Financiers, Journos and all round Radicals.

Your daft lad,you have (had) the likes of "the hitch", that was the guy who jumped ship.Shotgun,a laugh a minute if you tried to collect on any pledge that cretin made.There is the lovely Julian,changes his pic and his hairstyle and thinks he matters.The only folk on this blog who matter are the old age pensioners, and their allies.Trouble is they support Gordon.Matron would like it to be known, that we also have lawyers and doctors staying with us at the home.Not always awake but they do offer advice from time to time.Matron ignores most of it though,some of it is not very nice.We like Matron,she smells nice,Matron likes Guido a lot.

One of the Issues with an Order of Mandamus is tha...

2007-08-02T11:27:00.000+01:00

One of the Issues with an Order of Mandamus is that it only really applies if the duty of public nature is imperative and not discretionary. However , if it can be proven that there was an illegal exercise of discretion; ie:

1: The order is made in excess of jurisdiction.
2: The order made is 'mala fide'
3: The authority involved is influenced by extraneous consideration.

Then there could definitely be a case to answer. I suspect the battle may be fought over point 3. Bang in an immediate FOI request for any email correspondence between Chris Newell, Ken Macdonald and Carmen Dowd regarding the cash for honours investigation. Also, if the any of the people involved in the desicion have links with the Labour party (ie, party members or donors, even social links) it could have a bearing as the proof bar is lower in a private prosecution . At the very least, they would have to reveal in court (and on oath) the exact reasoniong behind their decision not to prosecute.
An order of Continuing Mandamus could also possibly be used on the Charity Commision's investigation into the Smith institute if they decide not to procede with your case or fail to carry out their task expeditiously. As Dame Suzie Leather is a known Labour activist you might have a little more luck in this direction...Good Luck.

But Gordon is in place due to Tony and not due to ...

2007-08-02T10:56:00.000+01:00

But Gordon is in place due to Tony and not due to Gordon. Big difference here and very infuriating for bully boy.
He needs his own election to finally rid himself of the ball and chain.

Tories just cannot accept Labour Governments. You...

2007-08-01T23:13:00.000+01:00

Tories just cannot accept Labour Governments. You guys need to understand that you need to win at the ballot box, not use your money as a substitute for it.

Blah, blah, blah.When are you people going to stop...

2007-08-01T22:33:00.000+01:00

Blah, blah, blah.

When are you people going to stop wanking off over sleazy Leavy et al and get down to dealing with the incumbent lot.

Hello!...anybody home???

Anonymous said... A whole 200? Wow. Your fabl...

2007-08-01T19:25:00.000+01:00

Anonymous said...

A whole *200*? Wow. Your fabled readership really rallied round.

Yes Anon 200 but would you like to bet that within the 200 there are Lawyers, Barristers, Financiers, Journos and all round Radicals who care that your Sleazy little friends meet Justice (though my preference is they meet there maker) but I suppose we can let the wheels of Justice grind or fall off, be sure if they do fall of or are dislodged by your crooked friends there are plenty of Albanians, Turks, Russians and yes even Islamists for hire..draw from that what you will.

Camera stellata

nempnet thrubwell:10.02pm & 10.03pm.Dear readers t...

2007-08-01T18:25:00.000+01:00

nempnet thrubwell:10.02pm & 10.03pm.
Dear readers the original nempnet thrubwell posted at 6.46pm. A guttersnipe plagiarist posted comments at the times shown above which in no way reflect the views of the real nempnet thrubwell. End of.

Keep at it, Guido. To me, the most important thi...

2007-08-01T18:05:00.000+01:00

Keep at it, Guido. To me, the most important thing is that it shall not become an accepted thing for a Government to pull down the blinds over anything in the Government sphere that they don't want the public to know about in any meaningful detail.

("Blinds", btw, not "curtains" - I got the metaphor wrong in an earlier post. The curtains would be for transparency, for democracy - which involves us, the people, learning the true facts of alleged goings-on like this.)