Comments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: Pigs to Westminster, Home of the Pork

"Guido has a track-record of leading on sleaze sto...

2008-03-04T23:23:00.000Z

"Guido has a track-record of leading on sleaze stories ahead of the dead-tree-press"

Not on this one - the Sunday Mercury (the local rag in Birmingham) beat you by nearly a day - and the journalist concerned then sold the story word by word to the Express before they removed it for whatever reason. You might at least have the grace to acknowledge this rather than taking false credit.

look on the bright side however much money kinnock...

2008-03-04T19:56:00.000Z

look on the bright side however much money kinnock steals he will always be welsh and ginger im not sure which is worse but having gleny on your pillow would make it hellish.

labour trolls,the question is as follows.does the ...

2008-03-04T19:55:00.000Z

labour trolls,
the question is as follows.
does the lardy arsed cunt tom watson and the members of his family employed by the state offer the taxpayer 300K's worth of value?
if you also consider the huge pension liability this mob are costing us and add to that the further cost of constantly stuffing curries and expensive wines down the neck of 'pigsy' watson then I think the answer must be no.
P45.
this country cannot afford to employ useless cunts like tom watson. you are not in the national interest tom.

anon. 2:01pm"Why don't the Kinnocks ever get menti...

2008-03-04T19:54:00.000Z

anon. 2:01pm
"Why don't the Kinnocks ever get mentioned when 'Snouts in the Trough' comes up?"

The Kinnocks are the labour party's royal family, it's rude to discuss them.

Anon 2.01...It's not just the pair of Kinnocks. Th...

2008-03-04T18:37:00.000Z

Anon 2.01...

It's not just the pair of Kinnocks. The whole fecking tribe are it. A great army of thieving windbags - mum, dad, son, daughter, daughter-in-law, cat, dog, butler, budgie - all are sucking away at the taxpayers' tit. £300,000? Don't make me weep. This lot will be shovelling away more than that. (Enough to buy all the leeks in Wales, I expect.)

Didn't the walking-on-water wassock have leaving the EU in one of his manifestos? Horrible, horrible hypocritical half-wit.

StanislavDont hold back mate, tell us what you rea...

2008-03-04T18:35:00.000Z

Stanislav

Dont hold back mate, tell us what you really think.

But please remember that it was always the case. The reason why it seems so bad now IMO is the following.

They are getting rich and free at our expense. At the same time as they are doing their utmost impoverishing and micromanaging us.

Otherwise how much money and freedom they have, would not bother the general public to the acute anger and passionate resentment that it does.

Cameron is not god, neither was Thatcher or even Churchill. What Cameron hopefully is and what the other two were. Are people that believed in the sanctity of individual liberty and prosperity.

Which in my eyes forces me to at least be thankful for small mercies.

You however my friend, have a perfect right to disagree. As you clearly understand our massive problem.

Which is not only already as massive as massive gets. It is getting more terminally massive everyday.

So massive that it would take someone very much like Cameron to even make a small start sorting out even the slightest bit of it.

Atlas shrugged

Anon at 12.15 - "MPs also buy a considerable amoun...

2008-03-04T18:30:00.000Z

Anon at 12.15 - "MPs also buy a considerable amount of it.......... which are then often given away for charitable causes"

Particularly at Christmas, when they were queuing up to buy House of Commons whisky at £8 per bottle by the crateload - think that was all given away for charitable causes, then?

In any case, what has MPs buying stuff from the gift shop got to do with them claiming shed-loads of our money buying themselves expensive houses and "employing" their families at - usually - much higher salaries than the job would merit otherwise?

As for deserving higher salaries - well, you really need Stanislav's turn of phrase to do that nonsense justice. These failed social workers and cookery teachers have never earned this much money in their lives, and when they get booted out of Westminster they never will again. They know this - that's why the snouts are in the trough so deep while they've got the chance.

@ bergen / unsworthNo - I think nepotism and a lac...

2008-03-04T17:52:00.000Z

@ bergen / unsworth

No - I think nepotism and a lack of transparency is bad wherever it is - but there's as much of it in the press rooms of the Mail, etc, reporting on this story as there is among the subjects of this story.

Yes MPs are paid from public money (and yes, *sigh*, I am a taxpayer, paying much more than before thanks to Gordo) but they're actually *relatively* transparent (cf that documentary on tonight about quango expenses) compared to many others who control our lives...

Mak 11.43. MPs are elected to serve the British pe...

2008-03-04T17:42:00.000Z

Mak 11.43.
MPs are elected to serve the British people and are paid well by the Tax Payers. MPs families are not voted for by the electorate and therefore are not entitled to any form of payment.
My Dad worked hard as a Partner in a Law firm but he wouldn`t allow me to enter the Firm until I had qualified and been interviewed by the Partners, then seved a Year`s probationary period.
As a further point, the Unemployed and Skivers, should not be allowed to vote, if they do not pay Income Tax. That`d sort the Buggers out!

Pending Guidos developing story,I note an anagram ...

2008-03-04T17:37:00.000Z

Pending Guidos developing story,
I note an anagram for Snot Gobbler's brown nose mate , Tom Watson is..... Am Snot Two

and of course, Gordon Brown is ...Born Do Wrong

Mark Lister is NOT The Messiah just a very naughty...

2008-03-04T17:21:00.000Z

Mark Lister is NOT The Messiah just a very naughty boy and is being shredded as I type.

Most likely pulled for naming names and being factual about the two dinners clan. Cannot, repeat cannot have the taxpayers knowing these details.

The above link works - well done Anonymous 3.13.

@ Stanislav - Words fail me. Liquid Gold. Had feared that that nice Mrs Dale had taken you hostage.

Guido too, thanks to you for providing this service and opportunity for us to protest against the sleaze, lies and hypocracy of those whom serve in OUR name.

Isn't one of Watson's women a full time councillor...

2008-03-04T16:24:00.000Z

Isn't one of Watson's women a full time councillor up in Birmingham and also a full time researcher for a NuLab MP? That is 2 full time jobs, both paid for by the taxpayer. Not sure if it is strictly illegal to be be employing familial individuals in multiple full time positions, but it is certainly fishy.

If a private family owned firm spends its own money on employing family members, that is their business; it is after all their money. The only way these two situations could be comprable was if politics was actually a family business and taxes actually belonged to politicians.

What a frightening thought!

Are Tom Watson's family all white? Not an equal op...

2008-03-04T16:21:00.000Z

Are Tom Watson's family all white?

Not an equal opportunity employer I presume.

MisterE said... "Well let's hope that some of the ...

2008-03-04T15:14:00.000Z

MisterE said... "Well let's hope that some of the greedy little porkers inside the House don't get mixed up in the (flock, herd?) of pigs outside and led off to the abattoir..."

There's no chance of the farmer's pigs and the 'honourable' members of parliament getting mixed up. The pigs are the ones with the honest faces and they don't fiddle their expenses...

Anon, 1052http://google.co.uk/search?q=cache:H09I8...

2008-03-04T15:13:00.000Z

Anon, 1052

http://google.co.uk/search?q=cache:H09I8FPRNRAJ:www.express.co.uk/posts/view/36749/How-a-Labour-MP-and-his-family-are-raking-in-300-000-from-taxpayer+http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/36749/How-a-Labour-MP-and-his-family-are-raking-in-300-000-from-taxpayer&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

Grasper and his "honey glaze" lover are mere amate...

2008-03-04T15:06:00.000Z

Grasper and his "honey glaze" lover are mere amateurs. For sheer vomit value, check out La Jacqui and slimeball Vaz making whoopee at the Shimla Pinks Indian Restaurant in Birmingham. Courtesy of The Times.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/politics/images/2008/03/02/kv1_3.jpg

FoI entitles public authorities which hold records...

2008-03-04T15:05:00.000Z

FoI entitles public authorities which hold records to dispose of categories/classes of records under their published disposal schemes after a specified period of time.

In the case of expenses claims etc that period is three years.

MPs were warned when FoI was passed in 2001 that the disposal period was three years. So when FoI entered into force in 2005 they should have known that their receipts/records back to 2002 (now back to 2008) would ultimately be disclosable.

BREAKING NEWS: Lee Jasper is a dirty old man.Grasp...

2008-03-04T14:48:00.000Z

BREAKING NEWS: Lee Jasper is a dirty old man.

Grasper bombarded Karen Chouhan, director of the Black Londoners' Forum, with filthy emails.

He said he wanted to to "honey glaze" her before a "passionate embrace" and in another emails he talks about his love of her "thighs, bum and belly".

Days later, the 1990 Trust, of which Karen is company secretary, received a £65,000 cheque from City Hall, home of Leninslime and Grasper.

Things can only get better.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=525684&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770

Sorry to post again but I just remembered the fuss...

2008-03-04T14:46:00.000Z

Sorry to post again but I just remembered the fuss when my firm last applied for a public contract.We had to demonstrate all manner of things to comply with eligibilty requirements including staff recruitment procedures to show appointment on merit and without discrimination.The great socialist Watson just appoints his family to live off the taxpayer.In his own way he is as bad as Conway because he is such a bloody hypocrite.

Hodge has said the BBC Proms are not prole enough....

2008-03-04T14:33:00.000Z

Hodge has said the BBC Proms are not prole enough. Stalin also had this concept of "the people's culture".

Hodge would do better helping Sir Ian Blair with some inquiries into Islington child abuse and any Jersey connection.

Guido - shouldn't you get a foi request in quick f...

2008-03-04T14:11:00.000Z

Guido - shouldn't you get a foi request in quick for all mps, current and former, with a request they preserve records?

Shredding would be a contempt.

Mak-if nepotism happens in family companies in the...

2008-03-04T14:03:00.000Z

Mak-if nepotism happens in family companies in the private sector then it is coming out of their own money.These scumbags are chiselling out of ours.

Wasn't Watson bleating about how the Labour party was his life some months ago?Now we know that it the hard working taxpayer that funds the life of his whole extended family.

i do hope they cant claim back tickets for the pro...

2008-03-04T14:02:00.000Z

i do hope they cant claim back tickets for the proms under their allowance????? but still Hodge wants to kill that off anyway.....

Why don't the Kinnocks ever get mentioned when 'Sn...

2008-03-04T14:01:00.000Z

Why don't the Kinnocks ever get mentioned when 'Snouts in the Trough' comes up? They've got their noses so deep in the EU Trough that all you can see is their trotters sticking out. Perhaps we should refer to them as the 'Trotters' from now on. A more incompetent pair of slimeball moneygrabbers I have never come across.

@ mak"anyone can see it happens all the time every...

2008-03-04T14:00:00.000Z

@ mak

"anyone can see it happens all the time everywhere"

Yep, that's the burden of the complaint - or are you saying so that's OK, then?

As far as I'm concerned what private companies do with their money is their business, but what people using my money do is my effing business. I'm actually bothered about what these thieving bastards are doing with my taxes. Then again maybe you don't pay any.