Comments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: U-Turn : Dithered to the Death

Cameron and Brown were both a bit tongue-tied duri...

2008-04-25T17:44:00.000+01:00

Cameron and Brown were both a bit tongue-tied during PMQs this week, although Cameron's mistake was probably a bit more deliberate...

If you listen to it you'll hear that DC started saying "Do you realised what a pathetic cu...." and then rephrased to "what a pathetic figure you cut"

Also if you re-listen to it you'll hear that GB started talking about erections instead of elections for some reason, but I don't think that was deliberate, it's just because he's a blithering twat.

I wanted to mention that on the bbc blog but I don't think they'd approve it, despite it being true.

What was missing from the Cooper/ Paxman interview...

2008-04-24T11:02:00.000+01:00

What was missing from the Cooper/ Paxman interview was the background music.

Try the Eagles "You can't hide those lyin' eyes"

"You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin eyes
Honey, you can't hide your lyin' eyes"

on balance I think it could be said that project '...

2008-04-24T10:44:00.000+01:00

on balance I think it could be said that project
'save gordon's backside' is going very badly indeed.
and has anyone seen blair's official portrait.
that is what a vampire looks like.

Mrs Balls seemed to have a hard time defending Sno...

2008-04-24T08:58:00.000+01:00

Mrs Balls seemed to have a hard time defending Snottie McTwat's U-turn on last night's Newsnight. Kept repeating herself as did her leader in PMQs. Looking for their marbles perhaps...

I guess she was considered the least likely to incurr Paxo's withering looks at her failure to answer even the simplest questions. The string pullers were wrong.

I'm sure Dave almost called the Bottler a "patheti...

2008-04-24T00:25:00.000+01:00

I'm sure Dave almost called the Bottler a "pathetic cunt" in PMQ's today.

Quickly corrected himself and said "What a pathetic figure he cuts"

First is more accurate.

Dickie the sheet metal worker:Simple solution: do ...

2008-04-23T23:16:00.000+01:00

Dickie the sheet metal worker:

Simple solution: do more cash in hand and keep shtum.

You really must learn from your masters.

If Brown cared about the poor, he would have spare...

2008-04-23T22:38:00.000+01:00

If Brown cared about the poor, he would have spared them the complication of his income tax and working family tax credit forms.

As for the mimimum wage it is a sop to the unions and a bureaucratic waste of time.

If it takes NuLab MPs so long to spot that Broon's last budget would cause them problems after the new tax year has started, it shows voters that their representatives are incapable of scrutinising a Finance Bill.

Broon passes the buck once again, trys to offer a solution to a problem of his own making, and inevitably fucks it up by setting additional complication and form filling. How many of the Nulab jellyfish wonder at their party's collective stupidity by allowing this sub-prime loser to become the sub-prime minister.

Next Thursday week, we will all be looking in vain for a NuLab Gain, all we will see is Lab loss, after loss after loss.

Gordon increased the 10% tax rate because he calcu...

2008-04-23T21:39:00.000+01:00

Gordon increased the 10% tax rate because he calculated that most of those effected were new migrants who weren't eligible to vote and those who gained were lower-middle class families from the key marginals.

He only acts to save his skin.

Ha Ha! Did your see Gideon getting ripped a new o...

2008-04-23T21:30:00.000+01:00

Ha Ha! Did your see Gideon getting ripped a new one by Jon Snow? What a thick tory twat! NOBODY believes that the tories give a flying fuck for the poor. They opposed the minimum fucking wage fer chrisakes...

The fuck-wits who populate the Labour benches make...

2008-04-23T20:25:00.000+01:00

The fuck-wits who populate the Labour benches make you puke. Even after all the huffing and puffing, tales of doing this and of that, there will still be a huge number of very lowly paid people (those who earn less than £10000 a year) who will be robbed by this pathetic government.

So much for these fuck-wits and their 'principles'. God grant us a Tory Government soon.

Just back from SarkosyLand to find this mess.Just ...

2008-04-23T19:52:00.000+01:00

Just back from SarkosyLand to find this mess.
Just another reason for decent Labour MPs - there must be some - to finally bite the bullet and get rid of the man. He is an insult to our intellegence and an embarrassment to us all.
And just what is Frank Field up to? He has not received anything like the concrete results he was so stridently demanding, yet has rolled over to have his belly stroked by the snotgobbler. I thought there was a little more to him than that!

I thought it was rather naughty of the PM to have ...

2008-04-23T19:24:00.000+01:00

I thought it was rather naughty of the PM to have himself flanked by 2other Scottish MPs (Browne and Darling) ON ST. GEORGE'S DAY in the English Parliament. Rubbing it in doncha think?
By the way I'm Scottish, but I also hate the snot-gobbling......etc, etc.

So Brown grabs more tax by abolishing his 10p band...

2008-04-23T18:23:00.000+01:00

So Brown grabs more tax by abolishing his 10p band introduced in 1999......rthen he boosts the Minimum Wage so employers can fork out more gross pay for the Under-25s.

This man seems determined to create a Slump

AntiCitizenOne said...increasing the minimum wage....

2008-04-23T18:14:00.000+01:00

AntiCitizenOne said...increasing the minimum wage..will decrease employment.

I employ 6 part time ladies. One has just left. Since Mr Bean increased the rate in August and it is due to rise again anyway.. and now he's promising to increase it again!! The one who left has not ben replaced.. One more will HAVE to go if the rate keeps rising. Profits aren't rising and costs [fuel/rates/rents] are just out of control.]

This idiot! The last minimum wage rise, paid for by employers never even got to any of these 6 ladies due to idiot Bean as he abolished the 10p rate. All of ..all of us in my buisiness were worse off.. who gained? Only that total tosser Brown.

It's all very well giving back money to the poor, ...

2008-04-23T17:39:00.000+01:00

It's all very well giving back money to the poor, but how is he going to pay for it. I reckon he needs to put an extra 2p on the basic rate of income tax to pay for it.

Dickie @ 4:45 PM, April 23, 2008Dickie, yours is o...

2008-04-23T17:26:00.000+01:00

Dickie @ 4:45 PM, April 23, 2008

Dickie, yours is one of probably millions of stories of people who have been and will increasingly be bled dry by these people.

Here's a thought - consider buying your van from the business so that it becomes your personal vehicle. At ten years old the amount you need to transfer should be minimal. Now make the business pay yourself the maximum per mile allowance the tax man permits for your own vehicle on business use. The payment should be tax deductable from the business. Do the sums. Only you know how much your business miles are, so you'll need to sit down with your calculator to work out if this is a benefit or not. Hope this helps.

> increasing the minimum wage will case inflationN...

2008-04-23T16:57:00.001+01:00

> increasing the minimum wage will case inflation

No, it will decrease employment. Think of the "minimum wage" as more the compulsory unemployment level.

The Prime Minister of Great Britain is a pathologi...

2008-04-23T16:57:00.000+01:00

The Prime Minister of Great Britain
is a pathological liar.
aswell as a FUCKING JONAH!!!!!!
we've got the worst of both worlds with this loser.

Amid all the fuss about the 10% tax rate there is ...

2008-04-23T16:45:00.000+01:00

Amid all the fuss about the 10% tax rate there is another much larger tax hike that has gone pretty much unnoticed. I am self-employed, I pay myself minimum wage or thereabouts because that's all the business can afford, and the only perk I have is a ten year old Escort van which I use for personal as well as business use.

In 2006-7 my income tax was £1,546. In the year just ended it has gone up 45% to £2,257. Why? Because of my old shagger of a van. That cocksucking, snot-gobbling, lying, thieving cunt, Gordon Twatface Brown, increased the taxable benefit on private use of company vans from £350 to £3,500.

OK, so it is still cheaper for me to pay the tax than to buy and run a car, but haven't these cunts heard of the concept of phasing in tax increases gradually? Or do they think that only the rich have company vans? (This lot are so fucking detached from reality that anything is possible.) There must be many thousands of self-employed people like myself, struggling to make a living, who are in the same position as me.

About the only bright star in this firmament of shit is that the business pays for the diesel, so fuel price increases don't reduce the amount of money I have to spend...

They just push my business closer to bankruptcy instead.

Every time Broon boasts about taking people out of...

2008-04-23T16:00:00.000+01:00

Every time Broon boasts about taking people out of poverty it reminds me of the many more people that he's put into poverty

This move is obviously the lesser of two evils for...

2008-04-23T15:45:00.000+01:00

This move is obviously the lesser of two evils for Brown. He stood a chance of losing next week's vote, so he caved in to the rebels. Only most people have now 'got it' about this mendacious shower of political pygmies. Brown - you were fucked if you did and fucked if you didn't. The good thing is, this leaves a lot of political capital for the young Cameron and his chums to tease the 'champions of the poor (fuckers)' with. This is another plate left spinning...

Bet Goron liked being reminded about breaking off ...

2008-04-23T15:38:00.000+01:00

Bet Goron liked being reminded about breaking off from a meeting with Bush to take an important call from a rebellious PPS. Bet Bush won't forget Broon's snub, or slaying of Tony. Great to see that Goron is such a towering strategist that he turns the whole 10% band issue into a macho test of poverty removal, job creation and bureaucratic complexity. Then spin it as being good for Britain, just like working family tax credits. The man is a walking disaster and the more voters see of him, the more they are repelled. There are alternatives to this sub-prime minister's follies, and the voters will be turning to them in bigger numbers next week.

If Goron did humility he might save some NuLab councillors from a well deserved retirement, but instead he remains incapable of owning up to errors of judgement. He doesn't know the meaning of humility but instead masters the arts of evasion, back stabbing with continual and delusional recantations of tractor output.

Wasn't it touching to see Swiss Des looking so well, and sitting at Goron's right hand. Is Twa jobs Des still on leave of absence or did he take a contructive part in today's proceedings. Perhaps he has been turned into another nodding dog, like Straw and Harperson. Nods and says nothing of substance.

increasing the minimum wage will case inflation, t...

2008-04-23T15:35:00.000+01:00

increasing the minimum wage will case inflation, thus rendering the government's 'prudent' anti - inflation public sector pay policy.

say it goes from £5 to £6 (approx. averages) then thats £1824 more per person per year (38 hr week, 4 week holiday) multiply that by say 3 million (a guestimate) then that is £5,472,000,000 extra per year in wage costs and puts the £xx million wanted by the police in context.

i don't really understand why the 10 % rate was not kept, or abolished & starting rates increased. i also presume that there will be an increase in cash in hand work etc.

The rebels have stopped rebelling because the publ...

2008-04-23T15:29:00.000+01:00

The rebels have stopped rebelling because the public now think they have won. They know that the public will not read Darling's letter and realise that this is NOT the U turn that Cameron claimed. So they can now tell their electorate what a good job they have done, even though they have achieved the square root of Fuck all.

Fucking Cameron has played right into Brown's hands and has told the world that Gordon is a changed man and has given the poor their money back. It is a Fucking shambles. Brown wins, the rebels win, Cameron loses and most importantly the Poor Lose.

So he will use the minimum wage to make up the gap...

2008-04-23T15:28:00.000+01:00

So he will use the minimum wage to make up the gap? That's a novel approach to tax. The Government stiffs you on tax then ups the minimum wage to make your employer pay you more to make up the gap.

Of course that just pushes the higher cost onto all the other poor sods who buy the goods and services you produce and (guess what) the Government then also taxes that increase through

* more tax on you (again)
* more VAT on the higher prices your employer has to charge.

But of course you the poor lowly paid will benefit - until of course you have to buy something because the Government's actions have pushed up prices again so everything costs more and you see no real benefit of the rise.

Who in the Tresaury thought this one up. It must be the Great Helmsman himself!