Comments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: Cowley Street Press Release : "Clegg Has Bottled I...

Some people, like Clegg, immature with age. That m...

2008-03-11T01:30:00.000Z

Some people, like Clegg, immature with age. That means, in a few years from now, someone will have to look after him.

10.02pmBecause there are some kind of workings tha...

2008-03-10T22:16:00.000Z

10.02pm

Because there are some kind of workings that cannot be shown, I cannot prove the police force's racism anymore than you can prove the racism of any particular juror.

In the 'Executive Summary' under the section entitled 'Prisons', the report makes the following statement:

The rate for people from Asian groups was
higher than for White persons but lower than that for the Mixed or Black groups i.e. 1.7 per 1,000
population

Asians ARE, therefore, over-represented, unless, of course, you are claiming that white people are UNDEREPRESENTED. A higher representation of black people in the prison system does not negate the possibility that Asians are also discriminated against eg. through high levels of stop and search. Racists stereotype black people as inherently violent and this accounts for the large number of convictions.

Finally, crime-levels in Jamaica (population approx. 2.5 million)are not representative of black people - it is a country where there is practically civil war raging between the corrupt aggressive authorities and resistant sections of the population. This 'cultural interference' cannot be ignored, nor can white people's historical 'cultural interference' in the former colonies which has led to black people immigrating to the UK. Your presumption that we are a "multicultural society that believe in "live and let live" is false.

Yesterday the flip-flopping face of the Liberal De...

2008-03-10T10:53:00.000Z

Yesterday the flip-flopping face of the Liberal Democrats was exposed once again by Nick Clegg’s speech to their spring conference in Liverpool where he followed in the footsteps of Paddy Ashdown by saying that he would do no deals with either the Conservatives or Labour in the event of a hung parliament with a “shake up of the whole political system.”

Is this the same Nick Clegg who, alongside Bristol West MP Stephen Williams, attended a special two-day Parliamentary Away Day on 20th and 21st July 2007 at Henley Management Centre where internal documents passed on to the Sunday Telegraph show that it WAS decided that the Liberal Democrats would work in coalition with Labour or the Conservatives in the event of a hung parliament.

Funny how it was held at Henley Business School given that the principal, Chris Bones, happens to be the very person hand picked by Nick Clegg to head a new Party Reform Commission to look at all aspects of party organisation from structure to campaign capability.

Chris Bones is also Chair of the Oxford East Liberal Democrats and resident in the Cowley and Littlemore division and is married to fellow Oxfordshire County Councillor for Headington & Marston Gail Bones.

Has there been a change in policy recently or is this the Liberal Democrats showing once again how low they can fall when it comes to keeping their election promises as was proved by the recent debacle at Westminster over the Lisbon Treaty?

Personally, I think that young Clegg might have just dropped another clanger because the last time a Liberal Democrats Leader talked so openly about power sharing and the political system in 1992 the Conservatives won the subsequent General Election outright!

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:fwZXoJo-YBYJ:www.bristolwest-libdems.org.uk/articles/000058/stephens_week.html+stephen+williams+mp+henley&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

http://www.henleymc.ac.uk/General/faculty05.nsf/facname/Bones_Christopher

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:4BzP-JMiAj8J:www.libdems.org.uk/news/clegg-announces-formation-of-party-reform-commission.13699.html+chris+bones+nick+clegg&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/wps/portal/publicsite/doitonline/finditonline/councillorscommittees?cllr=2316&page=aboutyourcouncil.councillors.detail

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/02/nlibs102.xml

http://www.oxfordcountylibdems.org.uk/pages/chrisb.html

"Furthermore, given the self-acknowledged problem ...

2008-03-10T10:02:00.000Z

"Furthermore, given the self-acknowledged problem of institututional racism within the police force, it is highly probable that there are, in reality, many more racially motivated homicides which have not been investigated as such."

Ah, so you are claiming that black people end up in prison for homicide only because the criminal justice system is racist. And that is why there are ten times as many black people in prison as there should be, according to their numbers in the wider community. There are just three small problems with this:-

1] Asians are not over-represented in the prison population. Therefore you would need to suppose a form of racism in the criminal justice system which only applied to people that were very black, and not those that are a bit brown.

2] The commital proceedings in a homicide case allow the defence lawyer to determine if the members of the jury are fit for service or not. This gives the defence a chance to weed out any racists.

3] The murder rate in Jamaica is 20 times higher than in the UK. The murder rate amongst blacks in the UK is lower than the murder rate in Jamaica. So presuming a direct cultural transfer from Jamaica to the UK with no interference from UK culture (i.e. a multicultural society that believe in "live and let live") you would actually expect MORE UK black people to be in gaol for murder than is the case at present.

Perhaps we should give up the daft business of seeking to blame everyone but the perpetrators of murder and instead seek to throw all murderers, regardless of colour, into gaol for a very long time. That could be to the benefit of all our decent citizens, black and white.

Now fuck off, and take your liberal-left nonsense with you.

Here is the dictionary definition of the word cleg...

2008-03-09T02:36:00.000Z

Here is the dictionary definition of the word clegg:-
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clegg
large swift fly the female of which sucks blood of various animals

(Otherwise a horsefly)

Somehow, this seems very apposite, doesn't it?

Clegg is a blood-sucking insect.

Yep. That'll do nicely!

Sorry went down the wrong thread!

2008-03-09T01:04:00.000Z

Sorry went down the wrong thread!

4:19 PMSo altas, who do you recommend for value on...

2008-03-08T23:14:00.000Z

4:19 PM

So altas, who do you recommend for value on doglegs? Sainsbury's or Tescos?

Looks like this man Clegg will do antything to get...

2008-03-08T22:00:00.000Z

Looks like this man Clegg will do antything to get his name in the headlines.

anonymous 3:05 AMAs a piece of statistical analysi...

2008-03-08T21:50:00.000Z

anonymous 3:05 AM

As a piece of statistical analysis, Mr Shell's conclusions are worthless given that he does not demonstrate the method by which he arrives at them nor source the precise statistical data upon which the conclusions are based.

This would appear to be the section of the report which is most relevant to Mr Shell's claims:

Over this three-year period, the police reported to the Home Office 23 homicides where there was a known
racial motivation. Fourteen victims were White, six Asian and three Black. There were no current suspects
identified for two of the White victims. It is possible that other homicides recorded in this three-year period
and dealt with by the courts have been considered as being racially motivated.

In itself, this is a pitifully small sample from which to extrapolate such sweeping figures. Furthermore, given the self-acknowledged problem of institututional racism within the police force, it is highly probable that there are, in reality, many more racially motivated homicides which have not been investigated as such. Indeed, in the 'General Findings' at the head of the report, this instititionalized racism is clearly underlined by the following statement:

...analysis here shows that members of our Black
communities are seven times more likely than their White counterparts to be stopped and searched, three
and a half times more likely to be arrested, and six times more likely to be in prison.

Under the heading "Racist Incidents", the paragraph below illustrates the general situation with respect to the racial contrast between victim and offender:

There were also differences in the ethnicity of the offender for crimes experienced by white and BME
victims. Where the victim was White, the offender (or one of the offenders if there was more than one), was
White in 89% of crimes, Black in 10% of crimes, Asian in 6% and Chinese/Other in 3% of crimes. Where
the victim was from a BME group, the offender or one of the offenders was White in 63% of crimes, Black
in 37% of crimes, Asian in 18% and Chinese/Other in 5% of crimes. op. cit

Here is the full address of the report:

http://www.cjsonline.gov.uk/downloads/application/pdf/Statistics%20on%20Race%20and%20the%20CJS%202006.pdf

thank you bill quango mp if i may add a few car de...

2008-03-08T17:36:00.000Z

thank you bill quango mp

if i may add a few car dealer terms

"body work nice but motor sounds a bit cleggy"

"theres a noticeable cleggy whine from the gear box"

"theres alot of clegg around the wheel arches"

"dont buy it , its totally clegged"

or from the school of dogey junior estate agents.

"this property is ripe for modernisation a real diamond in the clegg"

"this property having the benefit of being located close to a recently re worked toxic clegg tip in an up and comming area "

"this property is located in a well known clegg postcode area where violent crime is falling from 40% definitely one for the investor"

They've put "Nick Clegg" in the text and then unde...

2008-03-08T15:46:00.000Z

They've put "Nick Clegg" in the text and then underlined it as if to stress it - I thought he was Chris Clegg...?

Just think how truly appalling the next limpdum le...

2008-03-08T15:04:00.000Z

Just think how truly appalling the next limpdum leader will be.
they went from a faggot to a drunk to a dementia patient and now a whining prick where can they go next? pond scum...clegg making the limps even more pathetic was quite an achievement.
It really is a good thing that whatever they do doesn't matter.

with apologies to" you cleggy twat said..."A Clegg...

2008-03-08T14:44:00.000Z

with apologies to
" you cleggy twat said..."
A Clegg is already in the dictionary and has been for a few weeks now.

Online Dictionary
2 entries found

Clegg [1.verb]
Clegg [2.noun]

Pronunciation K-leg

Inflected form(s)
Clegged, Clegg-ing, Clegg-er, Son - of -a- Clegg.

etymology: very middle left english
21 st century
Transitive verb To Clegg

1: to blunder in the choice of
common usage < I have Clegged myslef into a corner for no good reason >

2: to misunderstand the meaning or intention of : {don't Clegg me, I mean exactly what I said}
b: to make a wrong judgment of the character of {we have got a right Clegg here}

3: to identify wrongly : confuse with another {I mistook him for someone competent, but he is a Clegg}

Adverb Cleggerly:
{ We thought him wise, but he now appears Cleggerly }

See also under Owen,Ming,Kennedy and {to follow shortly}

My wife can't tell the difference between him and ...

2008-03-08T14:39:00.000Z

My wife can't tell the difference between him and Cameron. I struggle myself a little...

I wonder what the script writers of "The Young one...

2008-03-08T14:21:00.000Z

I wonder what the script writers of "The Young ones" would have made of Calamity?

Yes, that's what I reckon, Opus Dave Member, that ...

2008-03-08T13:12:00.000Z

Yes, that's what I reckon, Opus Dave Member, that it was a wince-making example of a Freudian slip.

Of course, the Liberals ought to be asking what's so liberal about supporting a centralised superstate?

I suspect the word "clegg" will soon enter the lan...

2008-03-08T12:25:00.000Z

I suspect the word "clegg" will soon enter the language.

A right clegg could be something that doesn't work properly, or a person who looks alright, but ruins it as soon as they open their mouth.

To clegg it up could be to make a bigger mess of something than anyone thought possible.

A cleggy fart could be one that is unexpectedly wet and makes an uncomfortable mess in your pants.

Or perhaps it could be a collective noun, a clegg of useless, lying politicians.

"anon @ 10:48I not so sure about 'junior estate ag...

2008-03-08T11:43:00.000Z

"anon @ 10:48

I not so sure about 'junior estate agent' - 'cack handed tea-boy' seems more appropriate."

No, I think there is some mileage in the junior estate agent thingy..

Think about it, always slightly too pleased with himself, always with a slightly too impatient demeanour of a 'time is money' twit, and with an air of 'there is something I am not telling you about the state of this house's damp proof course, which I really don't want to have to lie about, as I might get rumbled, so pleeeeeaase don't ask too many tricky and searching questions..'

I wouldn't even trust the useless cunt to make the...

2008-03-08T11:34:00.000Z

I wouldn't even trust the useless cunt to make the tea. he'd probably manage to find a way to fuck that up.
there are two things about nick clegg:
1) he is a fucking liar.
2) he has a really whiny, annoying voice and the louder he speaks, the more annoying he becomes. when he is being interviewed or during debates in the commons, he has a tendency to sound as if he is begging.
he is a fucking terrible liar of a leader.
the lib dems really are fucked this time.

anon @ 10:48I not so sure about 'junior estate age...

2008-03-08T10:52:00.000Z

anon @ 10:48

I not so sure about 'junior estate agent' - 'cack handed tea-boy' seems more appropriate.

Here in Middle England Clegg comes across like a s...

2008-03-08T10:48:00.000Z

Here in Middle England Clegg comes across like a slightly irritating junior estate agent. The sort of person you are obliged to deal with once or twice in your life but are relieved never to encounter thereafter.

Honesty from the LibDems at last ?

2008-03-08T09:03:00.000Z

Honesty from the LibDems at last ?

Is Cleggy the "Last of the Summer Whine?"

2008-03-08T08:57:00.000Z

Is Cleggy the "Last of the Summer Whine?"

Do you think the staffer wrote what he was thinkin...

2008-03-08T08:48:00.000Z

Do you think the staffer wrote what he was thinking in a Freudian slip?

Christ, just when you think the Libbies could not ...

2008-03-08T08:39:00.000Z

Christ, just when you think the Libbies could not get any more shite- they then go and show you they can! Why not go the whole hog and say 'Clegg is Crap.'