Comments on Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy: Leaked NIS ID Cards Document

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2008-03-15T10:21:00.000Z

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It's not about ID Cards.It's all about the databas...

2008-02-01T16:46:00.000Z

It's not about ID Cards.

It's all about the database, and enabling the banks to call in the debts when the house of cards collapses.

That's why you have to tell them where you live, and immediately inform them when you move, under threat of jail sentence if you don't.

from wikipedia:Under the NIR UK Residents will be ...

2008-01-30T21:39:00.000Z

from wikipedia:

Under the NIR UK Residents will be required to:

* Attend in person to be photographed, have their fingerprints taken and iris scanned.
* Promptly inform the police or Home Office if a card is lost or damaged.
* Promptly inform the National Identity Register of any change of address.
* Promptly inform the National Identity Register of significant changes to their personal life.

dunfesterin, not East Germany 1985 more like East ...

2008-01-30T18:07:00.000Z

dunfesterin, not East Germany 1985 more like East Germany 1965.

And to all those who have whined about other countries which already have ID cards - THIS IS ENGLAND YOU STUPID SLEEPWALKING MORONS and we have enjoyed special freedoms for centuries since Magna Carta before this fucking bunch of Nazi wannabes got into power. WAKE UP!

If this happens it's civil war and I'm for the barricades. Who is with me?

@Anon 11:25amThere already IS a "Europol"http://ww...

2008-01-30T14:41:00.000Z

@Anon 11:25am

There already IS a "Europol"

http://www.eurogendfor.org/

And - it has military status. I.E. Could be used to put us down when we take to the streets to evict ZaNu Labour PF.

http://wikileaks.org/ has more info on the story.

2008-01-30T14:22:00.000Z

http://wikileaks.org/ has more info on the story.

dunfearin,Biometrics are almost irrelevant as the ...

2008-01-30T13:31:00.000Z

dunfearin,

Biometrics are almost irrelevant as the document suggests. Data sharing isa total red herring. Neither would the IPS store "50 items of info on an RFID scannable chip". They'd have 50 categories (extendable) of information steadily accruing on a central database. The card's just for you to carry your number around with you.

On the entitlement card: Read the terms and conditions.

http://www.jwelford.demon.co.uk/snec/report.pdf

The entitlement card is for the elderly and disabl...

2008-01-30T12:20:00.000Z

The entitlement card is for the elderly and disabled. It does not need a fingerprint nor does it store the 50 items of info on an RFID scannable chip.

My mum and dad have one.

What is your point, caller?

Your papers please has a nice ring to it for our E...

2008-01-30T11:25:00.000Z

Your papers please has a nice ring to it for our EU masters.

Wait till the European wide police force (Europol) is in action and the 'request' can be delivered by a chap in a spiffy uniform with peaked cap and shiny boots.

As with all EU legislation (remember we were once in the common market not the EU) ID cards are the thin end of a very fucking nasty wedge.

"Over 100 countries have compulsory ID cards and m...

2008-01-30T10:12:00.000Z

"Over 100 countries have compulsory ID cards and many others have voluntary ones."

And hardly any of them have a massive database linked to sites all over the country, with electronic terminals used to monitor every time you access a government controlled service and eventually every time you have to identify yourself at all.

Put this together with the proliferation of CCTV cameras and you have a scheme of surveillance unrivalled in any country of the world including China, North Korea and Burma.

Yes, they have ID cards in Germany. But it is illegal in the German constitution for the German government to hold information on the people in a database. In the UK they plan to have all the information they can get on us. Every piece of information they already have on us is already being linked between separate UK databases for criminal records, health records, welfare, tax before the ID cards are even introduced.

I saw a lot of ID cards yesterday. At the Holocaus...

2008-01-30T10:02:00.000Z

I saw a lot of ID cards yesterday. At the Holocaust exhibition at the IWM.

Death to parliament and the EU. We need revolutio...

2008-01-30T09:54:00.000Z

Death to parliament and the EU. We need revolution.

@Dunfearin:Thank fuck us jocks won't have them - w...

2008-01-30T08:35:00.000Z

@Dunfearin:

Thank fuck us jocks won't have them - well not while the SNP are in power...

Well you'll have to go for independence, then. The IPS is working with reserved matters, as far as possible, e.g. immigration - and prerogative where it can, e.g passports. The previous Scottish Executive was so keen on the database state that it announced a Scottish "entitlement card" to hoover up the transformational government functions it was being denied by the Parliament's opposition to the UK NIS - only a couple of weeks after the motion repudiating Westminster's ID card for devolved services. The estimable Mr Salmond has yet to scrap the Entitlement Card, even though it collects data like anything and that data can be sucked by statutory instrument into the Whitehall scheme.

@Anonymous 11:05pm said...// We had ID cards in...

2008-01-30T08:13:00.000Z

@Anonymous 11:05pm said...

// We had ID cards in this country for 13 years in the middle of the 20th century - during the war and for SEVEN YEARS AFTER the end of the war
//

You haven't been concentrating have you? There are ID cards, and there are ID cards. I suggest you read the document Guido links to, and think again.

Did you know, if you move and forget to notify the authorities, you will be fined £1000? Did you know, you will have to go for a compulsory interrogation (their words) by a govt lackey, to get your ID card?

Wake up, ostrich

ID cards are an EU diktat which our spineless and ...

2008-01-30T05:44:00.000Z

ID cards are an EU diktat which our spineless and useless government will slavishly follow.

They also fit perfectly with Nu Labour (Old Socialist) total state control philosophy.

Sadly, we can kick the present localgovernment out but the cards will be back as the EU never gives up because of something as trivial as democratic accountability or the views of the people - witness the constitution.

Get rid of Nu Labour and get out of the EUssr as well.

Anon at 11:05 and 11:12but you know it's the type ...

2008-01-30T03:09:00.000Z

Anon at 11:05 and 11:12

but you know it's the type of ID cards and what they'll be used for that is what makes them so objectionable.

Cunts.

or is that stupid cunts looking forward to their zyklon B showers.

Where is Clarence Willcock when we need him?The ma...

2008-01-30T01:20:00.000Z

Where is Clarence Willcock when we need him?

The man who told the Police to fuck off in 1950 when asked to produce his ID card...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3129302.stm

they execute thousands of people in china and chop...

2008-01-29T23:51:00.000Z

they execute thousands of people in china and chop them up to sell their organs........so should we do that?
if its ok for them then SURELY it must be ok for us then?

Over 100 countries have compulsory ID cards and ma...

2008-01-29T23:12:00.000Z

Over 100 countries have compulsory ID cards and many others have voluntary ones.

We had ID cards in this country for 13 years in th...

2008-01-29T23:05:00.000Z

We had ID cards in this country for 13 years in the middle of the 20th century - during the war and for SEVEN YEARS AFTER the end of the war.

bristol dirt bag 5:16 PM"Shagging the missus tonig...

2008-01-29T21:23:00.000Z

bristol dirt bag 5:16 PM

"Shagging the missus tonight...ID card."

Hell.

(Although, to be fair, I already have to get out the credit card)

I read the document via the link.It is in that inf...

2008-01-29T21:17:00.000Z

I read the document via the link.It is in that infantile pseudo language favoured by our rulers.They are going to get us through our children.No ID card no further education."Join the serfs son or sign here". Then inform on your parents and a nice fat EU job waits for you.There is no sign that they understand what the meaning of "freedom or freeman" is.They will grant us a spurious liberty which is not the same thing at all.And if you need this explaining then you are one of them.May they rot in hell.

Annonymong 8.23:I suggest you fuck off back to you...

2008-01-29T20:51:00.000Z

Annonymong 8.23:

I suggest you fuck off back to your ID card paradise you twat.

Fuck 'em, they can't grab all of us.They seem to f...

2008-01-29T20:48:00.000Z

Fuck 'em, they can't grab all of us.

They seem to forget that a lot of us have been preparing for this battle a lot longer than this shower of incompetent wankers have been preparing it.

So the general mood might be portrayed as "You can...

2008-01-29T20:31:00.000Z

So the general mood might be portrayed as

"You can fuck off with your fucking ID cards, you fucking fucks"

- yes?

If so, I'm with that.