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Friday, July 4, 2008

Troughing Ministers, Troughing Tory MPs

No surprise to see the Wintertons voting to keep their troughs unaudited. Just to look at Tom Watson you know he obviously likes it at the trough. Surprised to see the likes of Jacqui Smith voting against auditing expenses. There were a hundred or so more backbench Labour MPs who voted to keep their snouts in the trough, that is to be expected: they are taking a "fill yer boots before we go" attitude.

UPDATE : Full list of all MPs who voted here. One shadow minister broke ranks and voted for unaudited greed - Andrew Rosindell - who is the shadow minister for dog catching or something. A job designed solely to keep him out of trouble.

UPDATE II : Have checked and all the LibDems managed to vote for more transparency.

140 comments:

Anonymous said...

Cheating cunts all of them

Anonymous said...

Anne Widecombe, is turning into a turncoat these days. It is time Dave threw her out, He needs to show and instil discipline within his party.

Anonymous said...

It looks like part of the pedigree of a potential Derby winner ... the Donkey Derby!

Old Holborn - bitter and twisted said...

So much rope, so few lamp posts

Anonymous said...

Where's Gordon?

bagehot's nan said...

I gather the vote went 172 to 144 (or thereabouts) which means that more than half of our over-worked MPs didn't actually get off the arses to vote.

Enough said.

Wyatt Earp said...

And, since the majority were Labour MPs, no doubt realising that soon they will have to pay their own second mortgages, what a nerve they've got.

Gordon and his scroungers are content to withdraw tax support from the most disadvantaged, inflict heinous petrol duties and car tax upon us, but, that's ok, they've looked after themselves.

BASTARDS. I agree with Old Holborn. Though perhaps hanging's too good for them.

I hope those people who voted Labour in 10-11 years ago are happy now. I could see this car crash coming but was powerless. They've bankrupted their own party and now the country and we've got two more years of this self-serving bunch of crooks.

Parasite postponed said...

'Oinkers. the lot of them.

Tim H said...

"hanging's too good for them."

We need to go back to the proper British form of correction for this sort of behaviour. Specifically, to be hung, drawn and quartered and the head left on a pike at the traitors gate of the Tower of London. It’s only fair.

tyke said...

OPpen Season it is then.

Anonymous said...

can somebody summarise %'s, ie. how many tories vs. labour, how many ministers vs. shadow - and correct for proportions in parliament.

Thanks

Am too lazy and/or innumerate to do it myself. You can draw your own conclusions about whether I was educated in the UK and/or am employed in the Treasury.

Paul Linford said...

Mail online has the full list HERE.

Genghiz the Kahn said...

Last year members of the ARRSE site had noticed that Flak Jacket Smith had been employing her hubby as her secretary. Some of her consituents had noticed fulsome letters of support in the local paper for her actions either as MP or as a minister, given that she uses her maiden name (like Jowell, Kelly and Harperson), it wasn't so clear at the time that these letters were written by her secretary/husband.

bergen said...

I heard that Queen of sanctimonious soap,Widdecombe ,bleating last night.First the C of E and now the electorate are not worthy of her.Cameron would do himself a power of good in the eyes of the public if he sorted these people out,naturally starting with the Wintertons.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"can somebody summarise %'s, ie. how many tories vs. labour, how many ministers vs. shadow - and correct for proportions in parliament."

Meaningless since Labour MPs had a free vote whereas Shadow ministers were ordered by Cameron to vote for restraint.

Anonymous said...

Guido

You're not the only one who likes to 'get it up quick'.

Anonymous said...

Can somebody explain to me how any Tory MP could have supported this vote?

Anonymous said...

Why did the (present) Chairman of the Conservative Party not vote?

Anonymous said...

Come off it, there are people here (Shaun Woodward comes to mind) who would suffer real hardship if they didn't receive a little bit of help from the taxpayer occasionally. These people do a valuable job for us all - don't be so ungrateful.

Tribune of the plebians said...

Mr Chairman:
I move that the bastards be strung up.

Geordie Scoot said...

What's this about "unaudited" - I thought the measure passed involves an annual audit of 160 randomly selected MPs and a full audit of all MPs every 3 years. Can someone clarify?

Righty Right Wing (Mrs) said...

Mr Chairman:
I move that the bastards be strung up.

July 4, 2008 9:31 AM

I second the motion, Mr Chairman.

Anonymous said...

Are they really so detached from reality? Can you work out their collective thinking?

They resisted calls to have the expenses review carried out by "outsiders" and then when their own lot come up with a scheme that essentially means receiving the same amount of money, except with more scrutiny on receipts - they kick it into touch.

Hard to believe isn't it? Are they really so detached from public opinion?

The shadow cabinet did the smart thing and voted for change and now hold the morale high ground (if such a thing exists in Westminster these days) over labour. So yet another nail in the coffin of NuLabour!

You’ve got to admire Blair's sense of timing though, the chief architect managed to manipulate everyone into thinking Gordon "pushed" him – rather than being on the receiving end of a “pull”

Now all the disasters of the last 12 months, which were all inevitable, are now seen as Gordon’s fault. Got no sympathy for Gordon of course but how I wish Blair was still there to reap the rewards of all his sowing!!

Elby the Beserk said...

What more evidence do we need of the contempt they hold us in.

Guido (you've been here before). Your task - should you choose to accept it - is to blow up the House Of Parliament ...

Anonymous said...

Shaun Woo ?

Any relation to John Woo, the film director ?

judith said...

I know several Tory MPs (don't know about Labour) deliberately abstained because they believe an independed body should set all their salaries and expenses.

Wish I knew what planet David MacLean is living on; listening to Widdy, one can only hope a GE comes very soon.

Anonymous said...

AT LAST!

A list kindly provided by those that are happy to screw their countrymen and women.

I can see this very handy list being of great use leading up to 2010

Anonymous said...

Your tag - "Snouts in the trough" - is inadequate.

Perhaps "List of Greedy Cunts" would be more helpful in Google searches and the like?

Presumably the Wintertons have decided to stand down, and are now pigging it for all they can get?

Might I be first to congratulate Shaun Woodward, whose very visage and portly frame make the phrase "Tea with Lord Vaz" oddly less odious.

judith said...

Or even an 'independent' body. Sorry, haven't got my teeth in yet.

Gee said...

I agree with you Anonymous @9.35 AM

Morus said...

geordie scoot - effectively unaudited.

Sample only, and full every four years would be mocked by any private business.

The fact that the Touhig Amendment also meant it will be an 'internal audit' so as to save 0.5% of the expenses bill from going to (and I quote) Fat Cat City Accountacny Firms for a proper audit.

Also, only expenses over £25 will be audited - anything below is taken on trust now, including payment in installments where each installment is below £25. Oh, and the extra £30 per diem will remain unaudited.

So technically, yes, there is 'an audit' taking place, but I expect it to be marginally less rigourous than a crossword in the Daily Star.

Considering running as an Independent against Touhig in Islwyn next election - figure no other party is seriously thinking of unseating him - and he was the most repellent pig of them all yesterday.

Adam McNestrie said...

Ah - Guido's list of spite...

I support the MPs decision merely as a gesture of cussedness and contrariness. The media and the public have been so intemperate and hysterical in their attacks on MPs that it brings a crooked smile to my face to see them thwarted. There may be a case to be made for sensible, progressive reform of the arrangements for determining MPs salaries and expenses, but it’s hard to see how such reforms could be made in the McCarthyite atmosphere that prevails at the moment.

The public and the media will hopefully learn a salutary lesson about how to conduct themselves towards their leaders. Just think: if we continue with this perverse hostility, who is going to want to become an MP? I heard one MP on the radio yesterday saying that they were concerned that people from poorer backgrounds would be unable to enter the Commons if an MPs salary failed to keep pace with comparable jobs. Perhaps. But surely the greater danger is that conscientious and intelligent people will not want to be MPs because MPs are the objects of an almost automatic revulsion.

To read more of my views link to my blog, Just who the hell are we?, on wordpress.com:
http://adammcnestrie.wordpress.com/

Unsworth said...

If this whole charade of 'scrutiny' is to be carried out by the Fees Office as before then the status quo will prevail. MPs need not trouble themselves with thinking that they might be under any obligation to justify their expenses.

Even if they provide receipts, so what? They just provide receipts - a minor inconvenience. The real questions about the actual need for the giant plasma telly or the sparkling new kitchen will remain unanswered. And the mortgage and all the other fiddles remain untouched. "Just give us the paperwork (suitably worded, of course) and we'll sign your exes off, old boy".

It's the Fees Office which remains completely complicit in all of this, providing 'guidance' where the stupider MPs fail to word things adequately. Until the Fees Office is disbanded and replaced by an entirely independent body the rip-off continues.

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Icarus said...

"I know several Tory MPs (don't know about Labour) deliberately abstained because they believe an independent body should set all their salaries and expenses."

Because an independent committee will award them huge pay rises - valuable job, comparisons with equivalent professions, etc. etc. Indeed their pay should be almost as much as the members of the committee.

The poor MPs wont now be able to vote against their pay rises - they will just have to lie back and take it!

Anonymous said...

Guido,can you publish this list when the general election is on?.
It would be useful for people to know which greedy cunt's not to vote for.

The Lakelander said...

Sir Nicholas and Lady Ann Winterton:

Their snouts are so deep in the trough that they've even picked up a new sponsor...

Unsworth said...

McNestrie

Don't be a prat all your life - take a day off.

Perverse hostility? Too fucking right. Who do you think started the game? MPs rip off taxpayers and we should not be hostile? MPs vote to continue the troughing despite public revulsion and we should just accept that?

Frankly this garbage about 'the best' not wanting to become MPs is completely facile bollocks. There are queues of people wanting to become MPs and join the others at the trough. And you have to ask what these arseholes are 'the best' at. Fiddling expenses, perhaps? Lying, cheating, maybe?

Salutary lesson eh? Yep, we've certainly learned that we are being abused big-time by these animals.

And you seriously believe that 'conscientious and intelligent people' would wish to be associated with this border-line criminality, gross amorality, and profound stupidity? I don't think so.

babapapa said...

According to the graphic, Ann Winterton is Labour and Rosie is Conservative - but they are all a disgrace!

bob said...

Tim H said...
"hanging's too good for them."

We need to go back to the proper British form of correction for this sort of behaviour. Specifically, to be hung, drawn and quartered and the head left on a pike at the traitors gate of the Tower of London. It’s only fair.

It is right that we should do this.

Guido,

The Mail is ripping you off again. Oink, oink.

Keeping their snouts in the trough: MPs vote to carry on claiming lavish expenses

Wasn't me, guv! said...

Anyone know how the Lib Dems voted - if they bothered - or, if as usual, - they have sat on the fence trying to look squeaky clean?

Silent Hunter said...

For those interested, the figures are :-

Total 167.

Tory Pigs = 21

New Labour Pigs = 146

A ratio of nearly 7 New Labour PIGGIES to every Tory PIGGIE.

But they're still all Pigs at the Trough!

A trough filled with OUR money.

I hope that when the election comes these figures will be remembered along with the names of all the little piggies.

Let us pray that the people of Glasgow East have the sense to give New Labour a good kicking by throwing them out and voting SNP.

I say that as a non-nationalist & an ex-Labout voter.

Silent Hunter said...

Sorry!

Two corrections!

Piggy is the singular of piggies.

&

I meant Labour, not Labout.......perhaps I was thinking Layabout. :O)

Anonymous said...

Silent Hunter,

I wouldn't worry, Guido's going for a hatrick this morning.

Baby or Whisky sours Guido?

machiavelli said...

I wasn't aware both Ann Winterton and Rosie Winterton had crossed the floor?

thick as thieves said...

adam mcnestrie,
what a pitiful and infantile reason to support MPs defrauding the public purse.
you sound like a right fucking moron.

Anonymous said...

SCUM

Who do these MPs think they are?

Watcher said...

babapapa @ 10.08 - you pointed it out before I could, but I did wonder whether Sir Nicholas needed all those allowances because he's running two establishments, one with the fragrant Ann and one with Rosie 'Don't mention John Prescott' Winterton.
The fact that our money is being paid into a TRUST fund for the Wintertons is a word-play of the worst kind.

Anonymous said...

The saying "Do as I say but not as I do" comes to mind.

Where were all this lot when in came to increasing the powers of the Revenue to hassle ordinary people?

Anonymous said...

Adam McNestrie said...
The public and the media will hopefully learn a salutary lesson about how to conduct themselves towards their leaders. Just think: if we continue with this perverse hostility, who is going to want to become an MP? I heard one MP on the radio yesterday saying that they were concerned that people from poorer backgrounds would be unable to enter the Commons if an MPs salary failed to keep pace with comparable jobs. Perhaps. But surely the greater danger is that conscientious and intelligent people will not want to be MPs because MPs are the objects of an almost automatic revulsion.

July 4, 2008 9:49 AM


When we pay their wages then we are entitled to as much vitriol and spite directed at these freeloading leeches as we please.

Name me how many people from "poor backgrounds" that are on nearly £200k a year EACH inclusive of everyhting that they might be tempted by? I didn't know shelf stacking and working behing the counter at McDonalds paid so much?

My heart bleeds for them, imagine only being able to get by on £50k a year then having your mortgage paid, food bills paid, getting the latest 50" Plasma TV and a SMEG fridge to keep all your Champagne and Truffles bought for you chilled and fresh paid for them as well as the gardner to keep the daffodils in order. Oh yes my heart bleeds for them.

Self serving pigs and parasites the lot of them, hanging is too good for these bastards.

Troughers of the world unite said...

Weee Weeee WEEEEE To my second home you stupid proles.

Angry of SE1 said...

Mcnestrie,
I'm getting heartily sick of you using blogs which are actually read to promote your own tawdry blogsite. Its almost as bad as the huge picture of snotty that greats any visitor to Mrs Dale.

Post an opinion, if you must, no matter how stupid ,but if you want Guido to advertise your blog - pay him you cheapskate.

matt severn said...

Look at that- every Lib Dem MP has voted to audit expenses. Maybe everyone angry about corruption in parliament should think about changing their vote to yellow!

strapworld said...

I believe that Cameron has the greatest opportunity to LEAD his party by writing to each constituency of his MP's who voted to retain the discredited expenses and asking them to call a AGM of their constituency party to determine what action they want to take against their MP!

He should also take out advertisements in all local papers of the Labour supporting MP's explaining what their MP's did!!

Attack attack attack.

as for BROWN. He showed his courageous side yet again!!!in the bunker!

Henry Crun said...

McNestrie you really are and odious little prick.

The whole "MP salary" matching equivalent jobs in the private sector argument is complete and utter bollocks. I don't doubt that some MPs entered parliament with altruistic ideals of serving their country - I for one would put myself forward if for one moment thought I could make a difference. But as the deal making over 42 days clearly shows the government of the day will always ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority of the electorate for the sake of headline grabbing.

MPs expenses should be audited. I am a taxpayer (don't know about you) and as a taxpayer the money spent by the MP swanning about the country using 1st class rail, purchasing a 2nd home and kitting it out from John Lewis, pigging out on £30 per day, is my fucking money. NOT THEIRS! I suggest you look up the 'careers' of our esteemed sub-prime minister and cabinet of clowns before they entered politics. The only ones to have had proper jobs are Jacqui Smith (teacher) and Alan Johnson (postie) the rest are all careerist politicos having worked for other MPs or as legal advisors in various quangos. If you think that this talentless bunch of complete and utter fuckwits could get a real job in a real company purely on the basis of the quality of their own CVs - you are just as deluded as they are.

PS. Are you the literate love-child of Councillor Terry Kelly?

Anonymous said...

Angry of SE1,

It's worse, he posts the same shit everywhere. Including Mrs Dale.

Anonymous said...

All of them must be sooooo stupid, can't they see, (don't they care) how this makes them look?

Haven't seem anything on your site about Boris-n-Lewis, thought you'd at least mention it?

Desperate Dan said...

A Welsh Labour MP on 5Live this morning admitted that he couldn't manage on £61,000 a year. This is tantamount to admitting that he's thick as a brick and unable to understand budgeting. No wonder the country's in an economic mess if Labour MPs are so too stupid to manage a domestic budget. And presumably their wives/partners are also too thick and lazy to work to contribute to the household budget as happens in most homes. And no-one's even mentioned their ridiculous gilt-edged pensions yet.

The Ghost of Edward 1 said...

after centuries of trying the Scottish have finally done it...
They have brought their hated neighbours the English, a once proud successful and independent people to their knees.
Not through military conquest but through undermining our very fabric from within, eleven years of financial incompetence, crippling taxation, overburdonesome regulation, overwhelming immigration,destruction of our long held rights and freedoms has brought us to this point.

Now for the act of ultimate act of treachery, weakend and disillusioned we are to be sold to Europe who also for centuries have dreamed of ruling over our once green and pleasant land, throughout history they have tried, various Popes, Phillip of Spain, Napoleon, The Kaiser, Hitler, how many Englishmen have died defending our shores from this insidious threat, all it seems in vain as Europe with barely a whimper will assume control of all of our lives.

This must not happen, this is a key turning point in history, how will we this generation be judged by our children?

What can we do, our right to demonstrate and protest has been curtailed under repressive terrorism measures, we seek to undermine the state as it exisits therefore are we not terrorists? Was not Guy Fawkes himself a terrorist, therefore there is much risk here much to lose.

Our only sanction is the ballet box, as imperfect as it may be, at every possibility throw out this stinking cabal of treacherous scots, failed communists, and homosexuals, throw them back over Hadrians wall, let them have their own 'independent' state as a sub colony of Europe. Not us though, England must fight back, it has got to be stopped.

Dick the Prick said...

Barry Sheerman - quelle surprise. Odious piggy.

Anonymous said...

Hey Henry Crun stop advertising on Guido's for free, besides you would not want this mob to visit the good councellor Kelly.

Anonymous said...

And please remember that the lice in Europe are worse than our own home-grown parasites

Anonymous said...

is ann winterton Labour?

Anonymous said...

Rosindell has a habit of voting the wrong way, and signing EDMs he shouldn't.

He's a loose cannon, but I suppose better to have the bastard inside the tent pissing out, instead of outside the tent pissing in...

choices, choices said...

70% of our legislation originates in Europe with our MPs providing a rubber stamp.
Now this makes the 'life and death decisions' argument, proferred by the Westminster scum, out to be the pile of festering blow-fly leavings it actually is.
There are various courses that can be followed.
We can axe 70% of MPs and pay the remaining at current rates.
We can reduce expenditure on MPs by 70% and they can all maintain themselves as best they can.
We can reduce the time they are in Parliament by 70% and they are called to the house at certain times of the year for parliamentary business leaving them time to get another job.

Or we can string them up.

thick as thieves said...

where's that cunt mcnestrie gone?
come on you fucking coward, return the ball.
typical public sector worker, very free and easy with taxpayers' money. and quick to demand better terms than the private sector that creates the very wealth that pays his wages.
what a fucking cunt.
show some respect and gratitude to us adam, for feeding and housing you and your family.
methinks 'tis time to get rid of some of these useless wankers.
time for an efficiency drive in the public sector.

it's only fair said...

They outsourced their jobs, we outsource their wages.

Anonymous said...

Guido,
Another clear target for naming an shaming:
Laurence Robertson, MP for Tewkesbury and Shadow Minister for Northern Ireland
This sh*t thinks it OK to pay both wife and mistress using his Parliamentary Allowances:
http://www.recessmonkey.com/2008/07/04/now-its-mistress-on-the-state/
also http://archive.thisisthecotswolds.co.uk/2005/8/18/24904.html
An absolute disgrace.

Anonymous said...

Who on earth are all these non-entities?

Someone once observed of the Holy Roman Empire that it was 'neither holy, Roman nor an Empire'. Surely a similar point might be made of Dr Roberta Blackman-Woods?

Anonymous said...

Quick someone! Build one of those eco-town gulags so we can ship the bastards off there before Holborn gets to them with his rope.
Those bastards claim more in expenses than I earn in a year. At least my MP honest Hollobone isn'y on the list, but then he is an exception

Anonymous said...

the right hon. don touhig remarked that his constituents wouuldn't give him a penny if they had their way.

i think he may have overestimated the value his constituents put on his services.

Dick the Prick said...

Not only did so many vote, it's even more remarkable that the others didn't vote against it as they'd finished for the week on Thursday afternoon. What a life?

zeno said...

As has been said:

"Rope. Lamppost. Politician. Some assembly required."

MisterE said...

From the Times -

"Tories later claimed that Mr Austin had said to Mr Osborne: “F*** off you toff.” Mr Austin said the remark was completely untrue, instead recalling that he said: “It’s all right for multi-millionaires.” "

What difference does it make if an MP is a millionaire - they were supposed to be debating & voting on the transparency of their expenses... unless Ian Austin is admitting that he uses his expenses to bolster his salary?

Silent Hunter said...

Always fun to see Adam McNasty doing his famous "Dr Goebbels" impersonation on behalf of Neu Labour.

He spouts this crap on other blogs as well although I can't comment for the Daily Star, Sport or the Sun, having never read them or 'looked at the pikchurs'..... I leave the tabloids for the semi literate proles to read.

Perhaps Thicko Thieves can enlighten us? LOL

thick as thieves said...

mr austin is a little fucking liar.
the lying thug is clearly unfit to hold office.

thick as thieves said...

silent hunter,
I may be a highly intelligent juvenile delinquent but I am afraid to say that enlightening a complete dullard like you is beyond even my extensive intellectual capability.

Silent Hunter said...

Ahhhhhhhh!

So you're a 'juvenile'!

That would explain the intellectual level of your posts then. ;O)..........and all that swearing used as punctuation.

Keep posting Thicko......always good to hear from the Untermenschen LOL

thick as thieves said...

silent hunter,
stop trying to groom juveniles on the net you fucking pervert.

Edward said...

I note Julie Kirkbride AND her husband Mackay both voted to keep their snouts in the trough. I wonder what digging about them might bring up...?!

mitch(tanning his ass in Cyprus) said...

"Rope. Lamppost. Politician. Some assembly required."

repeat until the squealing stops.

Bastards all!!!

Anonymous said...

I don't understand the fuss about Laurence Robertson - it sounds a very civilised arrangement to me!

Penfold said...

That john Lewis list in full.

Dunno what you are all going on about; clearly anyone needs a £1k bed, a £0.75k Hifi & TV, and £6k+ fitted bathroom to work. How could one possible live without these bare essentials.

Air conditioning unit - £299.99
Bed - £1,000.00
Bedside cabinet - £100.00
Bookcase/shelf - £200.00
Bookcase/cabinet - £500.00
Carpet - £35.00 per square metre
Carpet fitting - £6.50 per square metre
Coffee maker/machine - £100.00
Coffee table - £250.00
Dining armchairs (each) - £150.00
Dining chairs (each) - £90.00
Dining table - £600.00
Dishwasher - £375.00
Drawer chest (five) - £500.00
Dressing table - £500.00
Dry cleaning - both personal and household [items] are allowable within reasonable limits
Food mixer - £200.00
Freestanding mirror - £300.00
Fridge/freezer combi - £550.00
Gas cooker - £650.00
Hi-fi/stereo - £750.00
Installation of new bathroom - £6,335.00
Installation of new kitchen - £10,000.00
Lamp table - £200.00
Nest of tables - £200.00
Recordable DVD - £270.00
Rugs (each) - £300.00
Shredder - £50.00
Sideboard - £795.00
Suite of furniture - £2,000.00
Television set - £750.00
Tumble dryer - £250.00
Underlay (basic) - £6.99 per square metre
Wardrobe - £700.00
Washer dryer - £500.00
Washing machine - £350.00
Wooden flooring/carpets - £35.00 per square metre
Workstation - £150.00

Anonymous said...

Jacqui smith knows her time is up come the next election

I've got some strong rope.. said...

Too many of our MPs have never had a real job. They have no idea what working in a normal environment is like. Unlike Shaun Woodward of course. His butler told me only yesterday that his lordship once blah blah blah......

McNulty is Detestable said...

Och! See you McNulty!

Silent Hunter said...

Thicko:

Hahahahahahaha

Back to swearing and innuendo, rather than anything coherent, I see. :O)

Thanks for making my point for me!

As I said..........Untermenschen.

Perhaps your close friend Colt45BeerCan could lend you his BIG GUN to enable you to shoot yourself in your other foot. LOL

This is too easy!

Pinky Perky said...

Anyone want to first guess how many of these MP's are in marginal seats ..guess the idea is to milk it for all its worth until the revolving door chucks them on the dole

Dick the Prick said...

I was chatting to an old labour dude in the pub the other week (i'd finished me crossword and the booze was kicking in) and the mere mention of Barry Sheerman sent him apoplectic - bit like if someone mentions N Power to me. Fantastic, when the old guard are fuming. Hurray! Although, still think Dave's a lightweight.

T England said...

So our MP's have set out the lead for the public to follow!
Grab what you can & dont worry about what people may think!

So! MP's can stick their wanting us to not demand a wage rise cant they?
I hope the public think of many ways to shaft the piggies for thining it's one rule for us & one for them!

You cant even say the gluteny of these politically elite piggies is unbelieveable because it's not!

thick as thieves said...

child-hunter,
no no, cunt, 'tis you who is proving my point by bombarding me, a juvenile, with your sex pest posts.
please desist, any further contact by you to me will ofcourse be further evidence of your attempt to groom a young person.
you think I'm joking?
check the law perv, you have already committed an offence.

Anonymous said...

Ropes and lamp posts?

Yes, a cheering thought, but only criminals and the agents of the state possess effective combat weapons in the UK and not by coincidence either. In the absence of nation-wide armed rebellion the use of lamp posts for vermin control would be vigorously opposed by the security services.

The best that can be hoped for is that as many of these troughers as possible find themselves out of work at some time in the future.

Apologies if I'm taking this thread too seriously!

Anonymous said...

As a result of the actions in the House of Commons yesterday, should the Piggies logo (™ Guido) be replaced by the Lemmings symbol?

Silent Hunter said...

Oh dear! :O(

Thick.......&.......Mad!


This whole Care in the Community thing really does need an overhaul.

Goodnight Vienna said...

Thanks for this, Guido. I see no end in sight. The public is angry but accepting that this is the way MPs are so have a 'what do you expect' attitude.

Keeping body and soul together, keeping the roof over our heads, keeping our children out of drugs, guns, knives, booze and ritalin are major preoccupations in most UK households at the moment. There just isn't the time or the money to go out and buy rope.

Ian_QT said...

I'm pleasantly surprised to see my (Labour) MP isn't on the list.

Anonymous said...

Why is Bob Spink in red?

Viva la Revolution! said...

Fellow Englishmen, watch your tongues, violent insurrection will only get you a bullet in the head.

As a keen if not academic observer of terrosrism and revolution I suggest that if you really want to protest and sooner or later with this Govt you will.

Follow in Ghandi's footsteps, non violent revolution gets them every time, just sit in the road. It works.

Bombs and bullets only end up killing the innocent, it is a road strewn with the ashes of the very people you are trying to liberate.

Far better, once in power have a 'Truth and Reconciliation' comittee.

Then we can string all the bastards up legally and find some truth and reconciliation!

Silent Hunter said...

Pinky Perky:

You can see all the Labour marginals at this site :-

http://www.justsolutions.eu/Marginals/labMarginals.asp

Enjoy! ;O)

Silent Hunter said...

I say...Thicko, you seem to have missed this.......

thick as thieves said...

silent hunter,
it is most unwise of you to start on me. I hunt retards like you for fun.
you're out of your league, now fuck off.

July 4, 2008 10:58 AM
Blogger Silent Hunter said...

THICKO:

Ooooooooooo!

I'm trembling in my boot's LOL :OD

So; apart from all the swearing.....where's the intellect?

The lack of which presumably explains the first part of your name and the second part probably derives from your habit of regurgitating what 'others' have said and passing it off as your own work.

I think I probably am out of 'your' league! Hehehehehehehee. :O)

Guido is right........TAT; you are a barely literate bore, which is why you get so many of 'your' posts deleted.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

So presumably you'll indulge in some more swearing and threats now.
Always good to have ones point underlined. LOL :O)


How right I was! LOL

45govt said...

adam macnestrie is a cunt says...

"To read more of my views link to my blog, Just who the hell are we?,"

I see you very sensibly have comment moderation on your shite blog. Why would anyone want to hear any more of your views? At first I thought you were being sardonic, and marginally amusing - I over estimated you - you are just a cunt.

45govt said...

Silent (not very) Hunter seems inordinately pleased with himself- I wonder on what basis?

bob said...

45,

Both as bad as each other.

Behave children!

Anonymous said...

Nice to see my tory MP trying his hardest to destroy his likelihood to getting re-elected by voting against reform.

The tory MP in the constituency next door to me also vote against reform.

Fucking twats; people who live around here will just vote libdem when they know about it.

I'm glad Brown didn't even bother to turn up; more fuel to make it more likely labour'll lose the next election despite the best efforts of a handful of tory MPs acting like twats.

Anonymous said...

I see that shifty bastard Bob Spink is on the list. UKIP are retards, they always accept any old trash willing to sign up. Kilroy-Silk, Spink, whatever.

Spink is hardly an asset to UKIP.

stanislav said...

From CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC and that cunt Murdoch's pretend news channel.

State of the Limey Nation Address.

"Mah Fellow Motherfuckers

President Codger McCain here tonight to shoot the fat a little, chew the breeze, right here, fronta the fire with m'dog, Obama, just like my illustrious predecessor in this great office, president whoosis, used to do, y'all know who I mean, the little fat fuck who took over when the other one croaked, the one in the hat, the one who nuked the Nips to Hell and back, slimy little yellow bastards, President Codger McCain'd a bombed every last fucking one of them grunting little monkeys, and their fucking Emperor Horseshit, right back to their rice-munching, head-chopping fucking ancestors, glassed the whole fucking place right over.

All got way too many teeth, ever notice that, mah fellow motherfuckers, how them slopes all got a few too many teeth ? No, I guess not but it's the kinda thing a Commander in Chief needs to know about before he has some sonsa fuckin' bitches blown into next fuckin' week. It's frankly unfuckingAmerican, number a teeth them little bastards got. No wonder they can't talk right., like decent white Christian folks. Eat with fuckin' twigs, they do, probably can't get a knife and fork past all them fuckin' teeth. Obama! get yer fuckin' nose outa that woman's ass, I told ya before, next time I'll take you out on the White House lawn and blow yer Goddamned head off; got m'gun, right here in my pants, next to my catheter. Sorry about that folks, now, where in the Hell was I ?

Yeah right. Foreign policy stuff. No easy way to say this, what with the special relationship and everything, but the Limey President, he's an honest ta fucking Jesus shit-fer-brains fruitcake, a twenty-four fuckin' carat psycho and I am not, mah fellow motherfuckers, bullshittin' yer asses, man's madder'n a grizzly with his dick caught in a trap, running around all over the woods, biting hisself. Been over there in London England myself, met him right up close and I have to tell y'all that that's one mad Limey. And his breath, sonofa fuckin bitch, it smells like the fucking aircon went off down at the morgue, go in a room with the Limey President's like sticking yer head up Satan's asshole. He leaves the meeting every five minutes to go an jerk himself off, y'know, no I'm not shitting ya, comes back in squirming and stuttering, his lower jaw jerking up and down like a fiddler's fuckin' elbow; guy over there, Polack plumber, got a whole new terminology for it.

Y'know, on the tee-vee, everytime I see that Goddamned jaw manouevre, that gulping, I swear to Goda-fuckingMighty that that dude 's got somebody's fist up his Goddamn asshole; right there, on the fuckin' tee-vee, there's someone, under the fuckin' table, behind the fuckin' chair, got their Goddamned fist up the Limey President's asshole.

Goes on the tee-vee, right there plumb in the middlea the Limey Congress, sits there eatin' snot right out a his fucking nose, like a four year old. Right there on the Goddamned tee-vee. I ever see that fuckin' heathen ass-fistin', snot-eatin', jerk-off sonofabitch here in my Oval Office take him right out there on the White House lawn and blow his fuckin' head off, see what he makes a them values; got m'gun, right here in my pants, next my catheter.

Y'know, he came down offa that reservation up at the top of England Britain where they keep the drunks and mental patient folks, all the transwotsanames, the dwarves, all those kinda freaks, web-foots, six-finger, inbred, albino, ginger bastard motherfucking mutant sonsafuckinbitches; got 'em all behind a big wall up there and just throw some money over the top now and again, let 'em elect their own mutant in chief, just like regular people, only these mothers are all a million fucking years and a good few evolutionary developments offa being regular; live in fuckin' caves, mosta them, eat porridge with their fingers, worse than fuckin' Nips, seen it with my own eyes, it's like Limey Mexico, and he came down with that other pansy, the one with the freakshow wife, Jesus H fucking Christ, d'ya ever see a kisser like that ? Park a fucking Humvee in there. Imelda her name is, seems like Uncle Sam is buying her a new house every fucking goddamned fucking week, ugly bitch got more palaces than Saddam fucking Hussein.

Anyway, they all come down off the reservation and take over the Limey Communist Party. Get some oily fag cocksucker off the tee-vee, Mandelstein, or something, a walking sperm bank, sucking everybody's dick, they're all coked-up faggots in the BBC Limey media, the ones that ain't kiddy-fiddlers, and next thing you know the pansy and Imelda are in Buckingham House running the whole fucking joint, selling off seats in the Limey Senate like they was hamburgers and this joker, the one-eyed freak, is at the Limey Treasury burning all the country's fucking money in a great big bonfire.

The Limey Congress is full a dingleberries, see, never done a day's fucking work in their Goddamned communiist lives, Ree-Surchers, mostly, attorneys some of them, even fuckin' worse, and every commie sonofabitch is dancing round the money bonfire cheering their fuckin' heads off as the whole fuckin' country goes up in smoke.

Anyhow, after ten fuckin' years the pansy realises he's been rumbled and heads off to be a Cardinal for ole Pope Nazi while Imelda is gangbanging her way around the world for money, like she was Jackie fucking Onassis, banging like an Iowa shithouse door in a gale, and up steps the current guy, Gordon, off the Reservation.

And it was all shit, he says, on the street outside 10 Buckingham House, holding hands with his Bearded Lady, everything we done this past ten years, all shit, all of it, shit. I'm going in here right now and let the work of change begin, change all that shit into wine, like he was Charlton fuckin' Heston talking to the fuckin' Israelites. There's no need to elect me, he said, my daddy said I should be Limey President, and that should be enough. I'm going in here now and work night and fucking day and change everything about again. Just as soon as folks see how clever I am, they all gonna want me for Life President's what he says, but first I just gotta make sure all the money gets burnt to fuckin' soot and ashes.


Now, my fellow motherfuckers, Limeyland is one weird joint. Here in the US of A, if you if you go a thousand miles from home and go out to a swingers party, y'know, watch some other dude porkstick yer old lady, and leave yer kids all alone in the dark to be carried away by the raggle taggle gypsies-O or some other kinda