Taxodus - Enterprises Flee UK Tax Regime
The news that WPP is considering fleeing UK shores to escape ever increasing taxes resulting from Gordon's prolifigacy must signal that business has had enough of Gordon's tax and spend policies. Every week a major business seems to make the move, Ireland is continually welcoming companies keen to halve their tax bill.The Irish benefit massively and the inward investment has helped make Irish per capita incomes now higher than in the UK. In the last 11 years Gordon's big government and big tax bill thinking has contrasted with Ireland's more Thatcherite approach - resulting in Ireland becoming richer. It has come to something when the republic is spending hundreds of millions of euros to help the poor neighbour in the North upgrade infrastructure. Eurosceptics who claim Ireland is subsidised by EU funds are out of date. Nowadays Ireland is a net loser from the EU financially.
Gordon says he is listening, well he should hear what businesses are saying and see what they are doing. The tax base is narrowing and will continue to do so until he takes the low tax, high growth route to prosperity. The taxodus across the Irish sea will only increase otherwise...
91 comments:
It's not just big business. Anybody who can is off. And those that have to stay are working hard not to make taxable profits.
Brown is aone trick monkey. Tax and Spend.
If he wants to listen he could hear enterprise and enterprising people and 'hard working' families telling him that he's fucked up and should fuck off.
"Gordon's prolifigacy" -- sounds painful. Is it a new disease?
I have plans to leave too...
Though it's not only tax and spend (aka 'tax and fritter away'):
- Paying for chavs to have kids, who are then brought up to screw the rest of us, whilst I can't afford to...
- Uncontrolled immigration that's turning the UK into an Islamic state
- Illiberal bollocks like ID cards, and not having the promised referendum on the Lisbon Treaty
- An opposition party which, whilst better than the current lot, won't cut taxes and spending
- Crime, crime and more crime - and the Human Rights Act which prevents us doing anything about it.
- Holiday camp prisons
- Attempts to force the UK to become a social democratic country via the back door, otherwise known as the EU.
....
:(
As the man said, Helping the poor! to know what its like to lose out under Zanulab, so I will tax 5.3 million of you just to teach you a lesson.
Dont let the spin crap get in the way of bin bag taxes, they have no solution to their 10p problem. Hysterical aint it?
When you spent all the money in the bank on frivolity, and dont put any by to fix the rof and household expenses, when it rains there aint any money to fix the roof.
Zanulab have run out of money, there aint any, and they cant raise any from new taxes, so they went to the poor!
When did the PSBR and tax take ever match McBroon's projections? Answer never!
This crowd are in a black hole and sooner or later their finger mails will break and they will disappear. Good riddance! They are not Bad People...just_____!(fill in the missing word/s!)A few arrests on seruous charges wouldnt go far wrong either.
I dread to think how hard it's going to be for Cameron and Osborne to sort this all out.
Now Douglas Alexander is backing a referendum on Scottish independence:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7383710.stm
What hypocrites. They lie about one on Lisbon and renege on it and now back another one in Scotland because they are in a corner.
bruce anderson writes about boris, saying that he's a libertarian and not a tory
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/bruce-anderson/bruce-anderson-boris-johnson-is-a-libertarian-but-he-is-not-a-tory--and-hes-unlikely-to-last-the-course-821138.html
and then he writes that boris has "no interest in history".
eh? the man has written books on ancient rome for gods sake...
I'm off to Cyprus soon for a nice holiday(family in the forces) and while I'm there I shall be touring the job centers or equivalent and If something turns up the Wife and I will sell up and stay there.Thats two taxpayers(no benefits kids grown up and left home)gone for good.
We earn nearly £50k between us and even with a small mortgage and no credit times are hard.I'm sick of paying for gordos fuckin socialist wet dream.
Fine, let's have Scottish independence - then all those foreigners who currently hold seats in the UK parliament could fuck off back to whence they came. Now who might that include....?
BTW had anyone considered the prospect of Red Ken getting a "safe" Labour seat (if any remain) at some stage and having a go at the leadership? Whilst a complete cunt, he does at least have some of the charisma old snotgobbler lacks and may be more dangerous than old one-eye.
Once Scotland gets independence we'll keep our oil, whisky revenues and be extremely rich.
You also forget Edinburgh is 2nd only to London in financial terms - we don't need you effeminate English pricks any more, the game is up.
As I said, I look forward to Scotland shutting its borders while your dump becomes a police state. Do you like ID cards and surveillance cameras !!!!
great series of photos here of Boris on his first day as mayor
via the daily mail
Ireland isn't richer than the UK in terms of income per head, that is a statistical anomaly.
If Ireland were compared to the UK in terms to net national product per head, it would fare significantly lower.
This is because a large chunk of money flows back out of Ireland to shareholders abroad (but when you count GDP, this isn't accounted for)
If you look at events it ’s almost possible to imagine that Gordon is a Tory member who has been planted with the mission to damage the Labour party. I think Cameron should make Gordon an honorary member of the Conservative party for the extraordinary services provided to Tory cause
"I have plans to leave too..."
Precisely which rights in the Human Rights Act would you like to abolish? Right to a fair trial? Right to freedom of expression and assembly?
Precisely where do you intend to go that isn't suffering from a plague of socialists? Canada? New Zealand? Australia? The US? France? Ha.
When Scotland goes indepenent, it will give up socialism (no more handouts from London) and the Labour Party will be reduced to a small party of socialists dotted around the M62.
Another significant diference between Ireland
and the UK, is the attitudes towards implementing EU directives.
Ireland does not have the bureaucratic ball breakers gold plating every bit of red tape, which will be one of nulabs most malignant legacies.
ps snotty, if you're listening, how coe you haven't taken the rest of your scots MP's with you and fucked off out of here ?
You really are a total cunt aren't you kay tie?
What freedom of expression do we have now when we get arrested for saying anything other than platitudes to anyone not white heterosexual male? What right of assembly do we have when we now can't demonstrate without a licence and are even banned from certain areas?
Cunts like you can cherry pick the bits you like out of the HRA and use this as a means to argue for it, but you are a cunt who has been found out as a cunt. Cunt.
Guido
While I approve strongly of low tax, flat tax regimes, the fact remains that Ireland has benefited massively from EU transfer funding over the last twenty odd years. The two reasons it's now a net contributor are a) that a massive restructuring of its economy has been paid for by sucking money out of strong economies in France, Germany and the UK and b) colossal amounts of debt. Figures from the CIA factbook (whoo, GO conspiracy theorists) show the following ranking for external debt per capita in US$:
1. Ireland 306,833
2. UK 189,855
3. France 68,183
4. Germany 54,604
5. US 42,361
Ireland is *massively* in hock and at some point all of that debt needs to be paid back via tax raising - all sovereign debt is, after all, just deferred taxation.
The UK is possibly even worse off - second only to the US in total external debt and with TWENTY PER CENT of the world total. These are in millions of US$
1. United States 12,877,889
2. United Kingdom 11,502,800
3. Germany 4,489,000
4. France 4,396,000
5. Italy 2,345,000
6. Netherlands 2,277,000
We owe the rest of the world eleven and a half trillion dollars, apparently.
Bishop Brennan might (or might not, of course) be aware that I was the one who -- partly through misadventure (a Blogger glitch!) -- brought the "breeding/spongeing chav" issue to wide national attention, since when it has again become acceptable to debate this issue publicly (think of me as a kind of catalyst!)
What has been bubbling under the surface of British society for a long time is exactly what the Bishop articulated here -- and not just on this one subject either. The ID Cards issue and crime are just as important.
The Conservatives' public spending 'commitment' is a bit of a non-issue, as it is only until the year that the next General Election looks almost certain to be held anyway, by which time the then current financial year's budget (i.e. for 2010-2011) will already have been set. In reality it is no commitment at all.
Trust me on this: when I was elected to our local Council in May 2000, the budget for 2000-2001 was already agreed, and we had to live with it. That's how the system works, folks!
The EU side is the most serious issue of all -- the Socialist Super-state that is being created, with no opportunity for the public-at-large to express their view via a referendum, is very, VERY dangerous indeed. Watch out for the deep (but secretive) involvement of Socialist "think tanks" and "training charities" such as Common Purpose, Demos, Fabian and the rest.
Guido could do worse than tackling this whole issue in depth, as it eclipses everything else achieved here to date.
John Trenchard said...
"and then he writes that boris has "no interest in history".
eh? the man has written books on ancient rome for gods sake..."
I think he meant that American-born ALEXANDER KEMAL has little interest in English history. Given his family background that is not surprising.
A bit O/T... maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but now that Pitt-Whatsit has passed on the poisoned chalice, just who will be liable for NuLabs overdraught? Is there any way it can be pinned on Gorgzilla?
Maybe that's what he meant by 'feeling people's pain'... £20 million would make a bit of a dent in his pension pot and he might have to spend his miserable retirement scrounging scraps round the back of Aldi.
Couldn't happen to a nicer feller.
interesting Times article here on a recent summit over tax between business leaders and darling/brown.
one chief exec is quoted as saying
"we'll be off, probably to ireland"
here's another article on the summit
and heres another
from the times:
COMPANY bosses are unwilling to speak publicly about the proposed changes, as speculation about a shift of domicile is unsettling for staff and shareholders. However, the chief executive of one FTSE 100 group with multinational operations said his company would quit Britain if the changes went ahead.
“We would probably go to Ireland, and it wouldn’t just be a nameplate there. It would be our corporate headquarters leaving London. We are not alone in this — several of our big customers are thinking the same thing,” he said.
Yes Bean says he is listening , but the mouth is still open and the lips are still flapping.
Must be planning another relaunch , how pathetic.
All the while he is still telling us "Everybody thinks........" "Everybody agrees.........".
Well thankyou Bean, I know what I think and you aint saying it.
Kay tie said:
Precisely which rights in the Human Rights Act would you like to abolish? Right to a fair trial? Right to freedom of expression and assembly?
err.. that would be the one where you can protest lawfully in Parliament square it then? Fair trial.... like being locked up for 42days without charge... or how about this one: letting the American cart you of Cuba for a short holiday, no questions asked!
I remember somebody saying "No country ever taxed its way to prosperity"
Empty Suit - External Debt.
So where do you think all that money has gone to? And was a lot of it incurred whilst fighting a world war, or hs been taken on since then to fuel our benefits culture? And if so does it explain the the 'British Disease' of endemic inflation?
Re: ever increasing taxes
Gordon has listened and he's 'ready to sacrifice bin tax'.
Taxing people to use their bins is taking the piss. It’s not as if we use them for fun. I bet you the F***wit who came up with that idea is the same person who came up with HIPS, a total waist of money. We have already had our service cut in half with bins only being emptied every two weeks and then they want to tax you! Anything in the name of being green. Same with cars. I don’t drive for fun it’s a necessity but again more taxes
Gordon if you are listening we are fed up with your high taxes and you waisting the money you collect. Labour you are going to be out of power for a very long time.
Kay Tie asks "Precisely which rights in the Human Rights Act would you like to abolish? Right to a fair trial? Right to freedom of expression and assembly?"
I don't want these as "human rights" kindly recognized by a totalitarian regime. I claim them as ancient liberties that are not in the gift of any government. Away with fraudulent human rights legislation!
Guido: Isn't the EU going to tighten the screws on all member states so that none has an "unfair" advantage by offering lower taxes to business. If so, then "in the long term", as they love to say, there will be no escape for businesses except out of the EU altogether.
Why doesn't any of the fckwits on the Telegraph realise it's Jon Cruddas, not John Cruddas!
It was a trip to Eire that turned me to supporting Scottish Independence.
Brown may be "listening" but not to business and not to the people. And if this article, link below, is correct, it won't matter where companies locate, where people emigrate or which political party holds the balance of power at Westminster:
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-gordon-brown-really-went-down-in.html
Anon 11.30 said:
They are not Bad People
I beg to differ. I think NuLab are a very sinister bunch indeed. Like all control freaks, they will become even more controlling now they are feeling threatened and insecure.
I would also like to express my support for Shotgun's opinion on Kay Tie. You cunt. The only people Yuman Rights legislation helps are criminals,illegal immigrants, any inadequate with a victim complex and the likes of Cherie Blair, who has made a very nice living from it. I would challenge KayTie to cite an example of Yuman rights helping the hard working and law abiding.
I have never had anything remotely favourable to say or write about Twattie McSnottie from the day he turned up in IK politics. Quite why he attracted the level of adoration within nulab boosting him into No 10 I'll never understand as long as I have a hole in my bottom. Surely I am not alone amongst his alleged supportes in holding the vioew I have of the crappy apology for a human being. Isn't there someone, somewhere in nulab with the balls to get after this empty shell and explode the myth that he is of the slightest use to anyone?
I remember Senator Joe McCarthy's final denouement when his targets walked out of the senate hearing on 'un-american activities' followed by just about everyone else except the cameramen who recorded for posterity the pathetic sight of McCarthy ranting to an empty room. Oh that this could happen to McSnottie whilst he 'listens and learns'. McCarthy died soon aftewards.
What is Snottie McTwat sporting on his left lower jaw. Is he really an alien? Is there something trying to burst its way out of him, like a real human being!!!
guardian article telling labour to tell the snot gobbler to resign.
over here
Re Anonymous 2:34
"Gordon has listened and he's 'ready to sacrifice bin tax'."
I think the correct report was,
'Gordon has listened and he's 'ready to bin sacrifice tax'.
Well - he taxed everything else!
I landed at Knock Airport last Monday and drove to Sligo.
Within 10 minutes I saw more Ferrari's than I would in 10 months in the UK.
It was one of the most surreal experiences I have ever had.
But then I may have led a sheltered life.
I'd like to know more about the shocking debt stat's provided by 'Empty Suit' above:
1. United States 12,877,889
2. United Kingdom 11,502,800
How robust/reliable are these numbers? Do we really owe this huge amount? If we do then I'm gob smacked... how the hell did we end up in this situation!
How much Irish "wealth" is based on construction in the residential sector and the huge house price bubble? Now the bubble is bursting and house prices are in freefall won't the Irish economy suffer?
However bad it may end up in Ireland however, the debt-ridden, UK is heading into stormier waters IMO.
lse -> its estimated that about 20% of the irish economy is dependent on the construction sector. but thats to be expected when an economy moves from the 19th century to the 21st century is such a short space of time.
unlike browns and nulab though, the irish have consistently put money away for a rainy day, AND lowered taxes year on year... so they are in a much better position to weather the storm.
Now do you all believe me when I told you over a year ago that Brown would make a fucking disastrous Prime Minister?
lse -> also, the irish government has set up an investment fund for the entire country - kind of like those Qatari government backed funds. ring fenced and filled with the budget surplus... long term investment and managed by top financiers.
cant remember the official name for it (maybe guido knows) , but its similar to what the Norweigians have done.
meanwhile -what the hell has new labour done? pissed it all away as far as i can see.
I think "taxodus" is a very unfortunate lable at the time when the 60th anniversary of the establishment of Israel is about to be celebrated. You should show more respect.
So how does Ireland manage to have lower business taxes yet higher personal taxes than the UK ?
Is that why Irishmen came to dig canals ?
the man has written books on ancient rome for gods sake...
I read one of them. It was shit.
I'm pleased to see him give Livingstone a good shoeing though.
"I would challenge KayTie to cite an example of Yuman rights helping the hard working and law abiding."
Oo, that's an easy one. The right to a fair trial by an independent arbiter forced the Government to introduce the National Parking Adjudications Service. Who in the majority of cases rule against the councils who issued unfair tickets.
But froth away, oh eloquent BNP voters. Don't let the facts get in the way of your innate authoritarianism.
For John Pickworth
I lifted the data from housepricecrash.co.uk but they in turn sourced it from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt#fn_2
The data in Wikipedia came from the CIA World Factbook, apart from the US and UK figures which are referenced to Treasury stats released by both governments.
So that's how much the ONS thinks we owe, and you can debate amongst yourselves how much the numbers may or may not have been *cough* 'adjusted'.
John Pickworth@4.36
John, you can find those figures for external debt at the Joint External Debt Hub - link below.
The UK's external debt has almost quadrupled since 1997.
You can look at figures for the past few quarters or download an excel spreadsheet.
UK's external debt growth is huge and accelerating.
http://www.jedh.org/jedh_instrument.html
LBS: " I claim them as ancient liberties that are not in the gift of any government."
So do I, so do I. "We hold these truths to be self-evident" etc. etc. But it's a small crumb of comfort to be claiming them while being confronted by a copper claiming his innate right to use a taser due to the fact he has one and you don't.
Not trying to make any excuses for Gordon (although by god he could do with some), but isn't it the case that smaller countries are better able (when managed properly) to control their economies in order to get into the position of lower business taxes etc. Which is why the unionists are shiting themselves at the thought of an independent Scotland. Imagine the benefit to companies able to set up north of the border, in a low tax enviroment similer to that of Ireland, then simply send their goods by road/rail down the road to England!
It's all my fault, I fucked it up, I resign and hand over willingly to my mate Dave. I am a cunt.
I disagree. These rich guys should pay their fair share of taxes or piss off out of the country whose comfort, lifestyle and security gives them shelter. I'm tired of the super rich pushing up land and house prices here in London and the price of my football season ticket too...
On the other hand the tax regime in this country is stupid and oppressive and made worse by New Labour's incompetent nonsense such as the bureaucratic tax credits for the poor, who should be outside of the income tax system anyway. A gallon of petrol? More like a a gallon of tax....All to pay for New Labour's market distorting client state of benefit dependence (social housing, and the like) which merely distorts the market and actively discourages self reliance.
No one, regardless of income, should be paying more than 30% of their earnings in tax - period. Perhaps a flat rate of 25% would do it.
"was a lot of it incurred whilst fighting a world war"
I think we've finished paying off the debt from WW2.
The debt from WW1 we simply stopped paying in the 30s, triggered by Germany stopping paying us (and various other countries) reparations.
All these people that do a runna from their home country just because of some snot gobbling politician need to pull themselves together. Thank god the Brits in 1940 had a bit more of a backbone.
And its funny the same people who run away saying the UK is turning into a politically correct hellhole, islamic state etc etc after voting for the very parties that have brought to where the UK is today for years are the same type of people who I am sure in the next breath would not hesitate to call members of the British National Party -fascists, racists, etc etc at a dinner party to make themselves fit in.
You might not like the BNP but one thing at least is that they are like Oak Trees with roots that run deep, they dont get blown over in a gale of criticism and don't pack up and run at the first sign of trouble. They dont say ooo the country is turning into an Islamic state and pack their suitcases, they say its turning into an Islamic state and set about trying to ensure that it doesn't.
Good riddance to all the weaklings and don't get me started on silly little English and Scottish that hate each other and spend all their time squablling likes rats in a sack. They obviously didn't get a Union Flag off their Grandad when they were a kid like me, that had flown over the Barracks on the South Coast under nightly Luftwaffe Attack. If they had, perhaps they might realise what a UNITED kingdom meant to the WW2 generation.
Well spotted Shotgun.
That Kay Tie is indeed a cunt! Claim you five quid.
have a read of the comments on this labour party website
that my friends, is the labour party tearing itself apart.
ENJOY!
"So how does Ireland manage to have lower business taxes yet higher personal taxes than the UK ?
Is that why Irishmen came to dig canals ?
May 5, 2008 5:34 PM"
somewhat accurate , but you have to take account of the fact that there is no council tax in ireland.
regarding income tax, it's 20% on the first 34,000 euros, then 41% on the rest, if you are single.
for married couples with two incomes, its 20% on the first 68,000 euros. with one income, but married, its 20% on the first 43,000
in the uk its 20% on the first £36,000 and then 40% over that, irrespective of whether you are married or not.
more info here
kay tie.
Oh, my God!
What was it that you was doin' to almost go an get yourself tasered, though?
Is it that you is a crinimal, or something or nothing?
You must be well bad, cos they only use them tings on dealers and that. You must be a right cunt, innit?
Kay Tie, all those things you mentioned, we had before Labour introduced the Yuman Rights Legislation.
Furthermore, no law must be set above British Law.
"But froth away, oh eloquent BNP voters. Don't let the facts get in the way of your innate authoritarianism."
We're libertarians (well, most of us I suspect), not fascists.
I'm all in favour of stringent protections of civil liberties, I just think an American-style Bill of rights would be favourable to the farce that is the HRA.
Christ, you're a bunch of miserable cunts! Get over it, any government is going to tax the shit out of you and that smug twat Cameron is no different.
Also, there's a lot more cunts like Basil Brush on here these days. You are a weak minded, piss-poor excuse for a human being. Your grandad fought off the Nazi's in WW2 to keep out fascist pond life like the BNP. How does that help your little analogy? Cunt. The United Kingdom meant a place where people to vote as they chose, marry whom they liked and not put millions of Jews to death. Fucking idiot
LONDON (AFP) - Scottish Iron chancellor Gordano revealed Monday that he was "incredibly ashamed" over last week's encounter with a trio of transvestites which he believes will mark him for life.
"I've cried a lot. I was incredibly ashamed," Gordano, 54, said in an interview with TV Globo published in the press Monday.
"I did a very foolish thing in my private life. It will stain my career forever but I have to rebuild and relaunch ," said the three-time British Chancellor.
"It's like as if my house had been demolished by a hurricane ... We're all capable of making mistakes and I made a mistake."
Gordano had the shock of his life when he discovered prostitutes he'd picked up were in fact newcastle based transvestites who then allegedly tried to blackmail him out of £40 billion for keeping mum about the incident.
"At no time did I know they were transvestites. I'm completely heterosexual," said Gordano, who denied "ever taking" credit for the achievments of others or having sexual relations with the three prostitutes.
"When I realised it wasn't what I was looking for I withdrew my stiff cock from their anus'," the son of the manse said with a smile.
"I tried to put a stop to it all there and then and return home but that's when the blackmail began," explained Gordano, who claimed that one of the transvestites had demanded "an absurd sum not to tell the Daily Mail".
He added that he had picked up the prostitutes after a fight with Ed Balls who has since broken up with him.
Gordon is listening all right.... to the voices in his head. He should tell them to SHUT UP!!
"That Kay Tie is indeed a cunt! Claim you five quid."
Oooo! Who rattled your cage love? Lost your job to a harder working Pole?
Kay Tie, you really are a complete moron, aren't you? And a NuLab one to boot. A most authoritarian government if ever I saw one. Anyone who disagrees with all the wonderful things NuLab has done, must be a BNP supporter, right? So, the best example of Yuman rights is the right to challenge parking tickets? You utter, utter cunt.
An independent Scotland would withdraw its troops from Iraq, veto Tony Blair as the EU President and possibly adopt the euro as currency, Alex Salmond said yesterday, marking the anniversary of his election to First Minister.
The gruniard.
hahaha poor ole snotty while he is in england his country plans to leave.
What balls. Ireland is what serious investors view as one of the PIGS (Portugal Ireland Greece Spain). Utterly fucked by the strong euro and galloping deficit. Watch it crash and burn...
Ireland VAT standard rate: 21%.
'Nuff said?
I do hope Cameron has a REAL go on Wednesday on the double standards applied by the Labour Party.
Yes Scotland can have their referendum..But the rest of us cannot over the Lisbon Constitution!
This crowd of low life's running our beloved country should beware. The people have rumbled them and it will only take a smallmatter to tip them over the edge.
Get the lamp posts aready!
O/T I know, but the sleaze and hypocrisy of these New Labour scumbags knows no bounds. Sorry if this has been picked up on here before but reading this got me so mad.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=558699&in_page_id=1770
Individuals are leaving the UK faster than corporations.
Income Tax might be 40% but Gordon uncapped National Insurance so that there is an additional 25% or so to add making the true rate of income tax around 65%.
That's one reason why I left the UK. 40% was acceptable. 60% plus is not.
Not to mention Inheritance Tax which in the UK has the highest rate in the world at 40% - and Brown ensured that it bites by not raising the threshold with inflation. In Australia and Italy IHT is 0%. The world average is 20%.
Anonymous 5:31 said:
I think "taxodus" is a very unfortunate lable at the time when the 60th anniversary of the establishment of Israel is about to be celebrated. You should show more respect.
I hereby bestow upon you the degree of First Class Idiot with Honours.
You are a perfect example of why political correctness must be eradicated. Any comment anyone makes can be claimed to have offended someone, somewhere in the world, even when the commenter has no idea that the ‘offended party’ exists, and the ‘offended party’ has no idea the commenter or the comment exists.
The offence exists only in your mind, which in itself contains only thoughts that any decent person would find offensive. You are a smug, patronizing, self-important moron of the first water, and should be dragged into the street and placed in the pillory. If anyone can afford food to throw at you, they are welcome to do so. Failing that, they can throw car parts. Well, we can't drive them any more.
Explain, if you can, why the fabricated word ‘taxodus’ is going to be so utterly offensive to the entire state of Israel, which is neither losing nor gaining from your wonderful party’s determination to obliterate all business in this country? Why are they even going to look it up on the internet?
And why do all such comments come from someone untraceable? How cowardly are you people?
Oh, and Kay Tie – I agree with everyone else. You are a cunt. Your assumption that anyone who does not vote Labour must be a BNP supporter confirmed my suspicions in that regard. You’re wrong, at the moment, although your party is the best recruitment advert the far right have ever had. Just look at how many BNP councillors there were when Labour came to power. None. Now there are 100. They even have one on the GLC.
I don’t support that party at all. I really don’t want them getting any power. They have, and it’s your fault. For that alone, you and all your ilk deserve the title ‘cunt’.
And let’s not forget national insurance which for the lower paid can be more than tax plus this is yet another tax on employment as the employee pays as much again. There is far more to take into account than just basic rates of income tax as this media orientated government would like to misdirect us.
The reality is that Gordon's figures just simply do not add up any more to our own standards. We've gone from "Gordon's Best" to "Going Bust" so damn quickly that we look back at the past year and wonder "wtf happened?"
Many of us look at what Guido is saying and think that he is just preaching to the choir - we're already voting with our feet.
Kay Tie realy is a cunts cunt! Mr Shotgun gets it bang on when he says....
"You really are a total cunt aren't you kay tie?"
And so say all of us. But Mr Shotgun does not finish there, oh no. He gives that stupid cunt a good kicking when he is down also saying:
"Cunts like you can cherry pick the bits you like out of the HRA and use this as a means to argue for it, but you are a cunt who has been found out as a cunt. Cunt."
A fantastic use of the word cunt to descibe a cunt and cunt we all agree on that. Kay Tie, fuck off you stupid fucking pig ignorant cunt. CUNT!
Anon,
The 'person' who drew up HIPs and the Bin Tax was the EU. Not a person, not even human, but that bastard mutant of the USSR and every socialist control freak in Europe.
Snotgobbler can 'bin the bin tax' for the media, but like HIPS, it is driven by EU legislation landfill directive for trash, and HIPs to establish our houses 'carbon footprints, number of rooms, extensions etc' lining us up for EU wide 'green taxes to save the planet - pass the sick bag!
Brooon can't change either and we are totally fucked until we leave the EU. Any of the big two and a half parties pledging that option?
James Purnell is reported as saying this morning that Labour is winning the "battle of ideas".
Pompous Twat!
The Snot Eater doesn't even engage in debate, he just says "It was right to do this, it was right to do that" - repeating the voices in his heid.
Nobodywould debate with Purnell. He has never had a career in the competitive sector and he holds his position through arse-licking. He can't comprehend that "the people" are actually wiser and more experienced than him.
Kay Tie
"...Lost your job to a harder working Pole? "
No, took yours as harder working Pole Dancer.
Like LBS said, our rights are bequeathed through Common Law though this is being rapidly eroded by the EU ( where's our referendum Brown ? ) in the name of " harmoney " and we will soon be subject to Napoleonic Law.
What the EU cares to 'give' it can equally remove and don't think that European Human Rights are sacrosanct, they are not; the EU goons have plenty of get out clauses for when our Human Rights inconvenience them.
"Kay Tie, you really are a complete moron, aren't you? And a NuLab one to boot. A most authoritarian government if ever I saw one."
You know, I really despair of how FUCKING STUPID you people are. I DESPISE THIS FUCKING GOVERNMENT. They are a bunch of total bastards who hate people. Which, co-incidentally, seems to be the majority of the fucktards who read this blog.
Tapestry'
"Just look at how many BNP councillors there were when Labour came to power. None. Now there are 100. They even have one on the GLC."
They can't have one on the GLC. It was abolished in 1986.
"in the name of " harmoney " and we will soon be subject to Napoleonic Law."
Funny, I thought it was all in the name of harmony. But I'll stand corrected in all things by an uneducated ignorant fuckwit.
Dear Kunt Tie
I feel I was a bit harsh attacking your beloved Yuman Rights law. I have been able to find an example of Yuman Rights being used to help a downtrodden and disadvantaged member of society:
http://tiny.cc/jquDn
" harmoney " sorrie Kay Tie snot my folt labour screwed up me school and give me a english teacher from a polly teknique who wore perple flares wot a laff he was i learned better in the YOI
i do better next time honest
Leg-Iron said...11:49 PM
One of the many joys of Guido is when someone does a total wrecking ball smashing of someone else's weak, pompous post.
The relentless attack was a joy to read [though i'm not sure the origianl poster wasn't tounge in cheek.]
Leg-Iron; are you available wedneday at 12.05pm? I have a question I would like you to ask Mr Bean. "As you are now listening much harder to us all, can you inform the house when the Lisbon Treaty referendum will take place?"
And then take your dynamite and deconstruction vehicles and in your own unique way, do demolition to his predictably false, inacurate,impossible, unlikely, dull and tedious reponse.
Good on the Irish. Yes, they had a tremendous benefit from the EU. At least they didn't piss it all down the drain like our 'government' has done over the last 11 years.
We obviously need more political assistants employed at Council Tax expense at 34k a whack to turn things around. Brighton & Hove council are advertising for three - one each for the Conservatives, Labour and the Greens. Perhaps they're required to sell us what a jolly good idea bussing is for the kids and the environment.
Gordon will listen to everything that you have to say, as long as what you say is confirmation that you agree with all of his ideas.
If you're expecting him to reconsider the general tax ethos then you're in for a fucking long wait.
If you expect him to listen to logic/reason generally then you're in for an even longer wait.
If he didn't understand that doubling the rate of the lowest tax band would effect people on low incomes, then you can't expect him to understand the logic behind a low tax economy generating higher overall taxes via improved growth/income.
GB: "Logic? Fuck that, let's use 50 year old insane dogma instead."
"Every week a major business seems to make the move"
Why care? They won't pay any tax anyway. :op
What you Englishmen have to answer is how did you let an scotch ex-loony history student, cat torturer, snot gobbler, marxist tosser who has never had a proper job in his life become Prime Minister of England.
Bill Quango - thanks for the invitation, but it's still illegal to enter Parliament in full armour and I won't go near that crowd without it.
If I could get in with armour and a rubber chicken, and get within striking distance of the labour front bench, I'd be there.
Anon May 6, 9:59AM:
They can't have one on the GLC. It was abolished in 1986.
I live a long way from London, haven't been, and not likely to. With the population density figures recently reported, it doesn't look like there's room for me. You're right, there's no GLC any more but that's not the point.
London Assembly, GLC, Ken's (now Boris's)Merry Band Of Chappies, call it what you like. The fact is, the BNP have a member in there and they've only managed that through the concerted efforts of labour.
I remember the skinheads and the National Front of times past. I thought they had gone, but I've noticed a resurgence of the skinhead recently. Even the thin red braces, big boots and too-short jeans are coming back.
I'm not happy about this resurgence of the 'Mensa boys' as we used to call them (from a safe distance). The only reason they're back is people's anger at labour policies. Everyone can see that, except a certain logic-challenged group.
Unfortunately the Anti-Spock now runs the country.
An earlier commenter described Kay tie as a "lady bit'
A sentiment I wholeheartedly endorse..
However, her/his/it's assertion that "where will you go" is not far off the mark.
Down here in NZ we have a similar labour group feverishly fucking everything up as fast as they can.
The only truth they must be taught is this.
Your EAT THE RICH political doctrine is all well and good. But what do you do when you have eaten them all. This is the stage that England and new Zealand have now arived at.
Astute readers will have noticed my use of the word England. This was no mistake, Give the welsh and scottish there independence, they are sucking England dry and have done for centturies. Obviously closed borders and forced repatriation would be compulsory. All the short men could be sent west and all the ginga fucktards with chips on their shoulders can be sent north.
Scotland, feel free to leave your women behind. Wales please take your women with you.
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