Taxation is an Intrusion
The Speaker's barrister yesterday told a High Court judge that forcing MPs to publish their expenses is a "substantial intrusion" into their private lives. Disclosing a detailed breakdown of their claims for running a second home, including addresses, might attract "the mad and the bad... They might simply not want the world to know the details of how they were furnishing their home in some particular respect", Nigel Griffin QC claimed.The Devil puts it well on his blog:
Well, might I humbly suggest that—if this is the case—that MPs do not use taxpayers' f***ing cash to buy their furnishings?
By all means remove the address if they are afraid of the people they supposedly represent - the important principle is that we should know what they are spending our money on. It is obvious that they really don't like us watching them pigging out at the trough. They are clearly ashamed of their greed becoming publicly visible.
37 comments:
Really very simple - present a receipt for every purchase made with my (tax payer) money. Like every single business does!
Barristers - pah! 'First, we'll kill the lawyers'. Or, just leave them to do it to themselves!
Guido, just out of curiosity, how much of this is the Speaker and how much is the MPs? I seem to recall David Cameron (one of the 14) saying he'd be happy to release the information - if I'm wrong on this, I apologise. So is this Martin covering his arse (and/or those of certain MPs) or something more sinister than I thought?
OT - Tony O'Reilly calls for Northern Ireland corporation tax to be made equal to the Southern Republic level.
over here
I think having to report details of my financial affairs to HMRC is a "substantial intrusion" into my private life.
George Street said...
Barristers - pah! 'First, we'll kill the lawyers'. Or, just leave them to do it to themselves!
I think, judging from Markham Square, that they've started to do it. 'Suicide by police' is now apparently a coroner's court-recognised method of committing suicide.
Now we just need to superglue an Uzi to Harperson's hand and give her a few too many of her favourite tipples ...
My own M.P employs his wife, who he has left and his girlfriend.!!
Sickening is it not.
Word verification VD !
hear, hear and err thats it.
the expenses in question were and are paid for out of public funds.
this barrister sounds like a right spastic.
what a fucking cunt.
note to barrister: well done! your ridiculous defence of the zanulab zombie flesh eaters has earned you a place in the top half of the list.
oh and as you are a satanist motherfucker, after you have been dispatched you will definitely be going to hell.
you do know that, don't you, you clever cunt.
what a piece of shit.
I booked a flight for work the other day and our booking company added a fee of £1.17. I had to provide a receipt for this to get the balance cleared from the Corporate credit card.
And quite right too. Every last penny of my expenses is receipted, even for the £1.17 items. Why are MPs different? Too busy? I am a FTSE100 Executive and am quite busy too.
Another issue entirely (sorry)
Would Mark Saunders have been shot by police if he'd been black ?
I bet they'd have waited 'til hell froze over.
Talking of porksters, Grasper's boss Manny Lewis is rumoured to be getting the big E by Boris with a 100 grand payoff.
The £210,000-a-year LDA boss is one of those who complained that the well-founded accusations against Grasper were "politically motivated". Geddaway.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23483161-details/%C2%A3210k-a-year+City+Hall+Official+in+Lee+Jasper+row+is+ousted/article.do
guido - you'd have a field day with Euro MEP expenses... worth a blogpost or two. they pale in comparison to Westminster expenses.
Guido, I think Alan is right. You should not tar all MPs with this brush. It is, I think, the Speaker who instigated this court case - not ordinary MPs
Guido bloody right remove the address.
If I have to declare my home expenses on this bloody new form for my surrey residence or my constituency residence or my weekend away Devon cottage or my holiday villa in the Algarve, people might begin questioning my claim that i need more money to be an MP.
As I have furniture and equipment paid from the taxpayer in each one I don't know what to declare.
Can we just fill in a line general stuff.. say 50K alright?
[also there's the flat in Poland street for you know what/you know who.]
Totally O/T, did you see the incestuous monster Josef Fritzl is now complaining that the press is biased? Ha bloody ha.
O/T Vote Brown Out
Madame Tussauds are joining in the fun.
I seem to remember that the ~ZanuLiebour Party (including the esteemed Martin and der Fuhrer von der Downing Strasse Bunker aka Mcfukkivty) voted for the Freedom of Information Act.
Or is that being quietly rewritten as per 1984 by Orwell???
MMmmmmmmmmMMMMMmmmm.......
The speakers original legal advice was, that he had no chance of winning an appeal. He then went searching for a lawyer\QC to give him the advice he wanted to hear. Can he not be made to pay the estimated £100,000 bill himself, after they lose.
The Telegraph reports the lawyers as being for The House of Commons rather than just for Mr. Speaker.
Oh and they've cost us £100,000 thus far to try and hide their cheating chicanery, from us.
As for addresses, I have to state my full address every time I appear in the dock, no worries about the mad and the bad coming after me ?
Since all hte poor little dears in westminster obviously need a base in the capital, why not build a big block of flats for the lot of them, all equally furnished and equipped, paid for bny the taxpayer of course, but, no need for 2nd home expenses or trips to John Lewis. The flat to passed from MP to MP after elections, with full inventgory check and payment for damages of course.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, or pigs in troughs....
The address thing is just a ploy to confuse the issue. No need to publish the address.
You still owe me £2 for that bar of chocolate you cunt!
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The Sun have just released the results of a YouGov poll, and it gives the Tories an astonishing 26 point lead over Labour. The numbers in full: Tories, 49 percent; Labour, 23 percent; Lib Dems, 17 percent. That's Labour's worst poll showing since records began in the 1930s.
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Clearly Labour under the floundering, hopeless, dishonest, and incompetent Brown are in complete meltdown. If this poll is refelected in the forthcoming Crewe and Nantwich byelection then Labour will be trounced. How long can Brown stagger on after that?
Bastards I am a civil Servant and have to producv e a receipt for every tiny expense (and there are not many expenses that are allowed) and these fuckers who are also servants of the public can burn cash with no checks.
String the fuckers up I say
russ 7:50
We've already got a purpose built block of rooms that would suit, it's called Wandsworth.
Klaus Barbie 7:09pm was not at all off topic when he raised the matter of the evil bastard who kept his daughter in a cellar for 25 years as a sex slave.
Although ZaNuLab's crimes are not quite that bad, they are on a scale affecting many more people. And like the repulsive Austrian, they also whine that the press is to blame.
mary jane rotten-crotch said... (6:33 pm):
Would Mark Saunders have been shot by police if he'd been black ?
No - because he'd have been armed with something a damned sight more dangerous than a shotgun. Plod wouldn't have dared go close.
anonemo 8:42
prison is too good for them...perhaps having them stay at the accomodation used for soldiers and there families would be more appropriate
This Speaker's barrister fails to see the point - the people want to see a substantial intrusion straight up the Speaker's and fellow pigging trough-merchants arses - albeit metaphorically - over this whole expansive expensing pig-out. Well, OK some do want to literally see such an outcome - so ... look to your seats so very, very honourable gentlemen and ladies!
Anon 10.09
Funnily enough, I was thinking the same thing. My wife's folks were in the forces, and got posted everywhere, but all on the same patch!
Pity Chelsea Barracks couldn't have doubled up for the poor little sods away from home. Maybe Candey and Candey will relent and let them have a few rooms round the back, next to the affordable stuff!
The reason why we need to know the MPs addresses is that a number of them have been claiming for homes not in either their constituency or in London, but in fact their holiday homes. Also wouldn't bet against some claiming for the same home.
Great innit? The greedy scum use OUR money to stop us finding out how much of OUR money they are syphoning off, no questions asked, if you don't mind. It is a sign of how much contempt they have for us, they really don't care what we think anymore.
well, if that is the case, we will have no option but to throw the cunts into the thames.
for they are of no use to us. Indeed they are nothing more than a hindrance to good government.
we could also have a sweepstake on which of them will float.
that loud mouthed cunt stephen pound would definitely float because he's a fucking witch.
note to pound: been very quiet since this expense thing came up, haven't you? you are normally such a loud mouthed cunt!
very suspicious behaviour mr pound.
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