The Guardianista Class
Ever wonder why it is that the Guardianistas are against grammar schools? A co-conspirator points out that this post keeps getting mysteriously deleted from the Guardian's CiF comments:
If only Guido had had the advantages they did...Editor Alan Rusbridger (Cranleigh); political editor Patrick Wintour (Westminster); leader writer Madeleine Bunting (Queen Mary's, Yorkshire); policy editor Jonathan Freedland (University College School); columnist Polly Toynbee (Badminton); executive editor Ian Katz (University College School); security affairs editor Richard Norton Taylor (King's School, Canterbury); arts editor-in-chief Clare Margetson (Marlborough College); literary editor Clare Armitstead (Bedales); public services editor David Brindle (Bablake); city editor Julia Finch (King's High, Warwick).; environment editor John Vidal (St Bees); fashion editor Jess Cartner-Morley (City of london School for Girls); G3 editor Janine Gibson (Walthamstow Hall); northern editor Martin Wainwright (Shreswbury); and industrial editor David Gow (St Peter's, York).
UPDATE : A school chum draws attention to Seumas Milne who is an Old Wykehamist (Winchester College) and at Balliol, Oxford, another mentions the Observer's Andrew Rawnsley - Rugby School and Cambridge University.
UPDATE II : This was apparently in Private Eye originally. Wouldn't know - actually don't read it. Y'know - it is like fortnightly - so twentieth century...
89 comments:
Maybe we should all cut 'n post it then. A little concerted action might produce results.
I believe Guido did have the advantage that David Gow had...
Why is Bodmin Grammar School old fogey and Guardian grump, Wir Michael Shite NOT on the list.
wasn't this in private eye last week?
if so a credit is surely indicated
And they all have entries in Burkes - a little list I'm keeping for future reference, as yet unpublished.
Our jobs, and our belief that we are "decent people" (unlike you nasty Tories), are dependent on helping the less well off.
Where would we be if the poor started helping themselves? They wouldn't need us then. Got to keep 'em in their place, dontcha know.
Gasp! - you mean they are all toffs too?
Great stuff, Guido,
The hypocrisy of the political arm of the British people has long been its soft underbelly.
Don't tell me the gruniad censors posts ! I suppose its a bit like the brief at the Lady Chatterleys Lover trial , one wouldn't ones maid servant reading such filth afterall .
Gasp! - you mean they are all toffs too?
Crickey! So comment isn't free, after all. Who'd have thought it?
down with skule. Hipockrasy rules OK
If only Guido had had ...
I've blogged my fingers off on CiF trying to explain to those metropolitan twats that the average man at a bus stop in Stoke cannot tell the difference between Jonathon Freeland and George Osbourne.
Privilege is Privilege.
Reading this 'toff' stuff on CiF - especially the car-crash opposition to Boris - leaves me opened mouthed. Can these middle-class, leafy street, graduate parented, selectively educated arseholes not see themselves for what they are?
Do you lot really think you are down with the workers?
Guess what fuckers? The workers have had it up to here with Islingtonian liberal shite. They don't believe in Green taxes, late abortion, organic veg, mass immigration, bin taxes, speed cameras, speed bumps, public shithole transport and stealth taxes.
I thank GOD, my father was an immigrant who worked on the roads and that I went to comp. I have to work with some of these twats and nothing makes them more uncomfortable to be faced with the scale of their own privilege.
Doesn't stop 'em voting Labour though, while pushing to the front of the queue, taking the best jobs, the best houses and the best school places.
FUCK OFF
newsed1
So, Guido's regurgitating bits from Private Eye now...
Dunno - never read it - so dated.
you can see why they hate Cameron et al as well, can't you? I mean, with the excpetion of Marlborough and poss Westminster at a push, they're all rather MPSIA
4:48 has a point. The Times used to have adverts on the front page so that the butler didn't read the news. Perhaps CiF ought to have a Flash screen so that one's staff don't get to see it.
According to Wikipedia
Columnist and associate editor - Seamus Milne: Universities of Oxford and London. He is the younger son of the former BBC Director General Alasdair Milne.
(Does anyone know where he went to school? That info is strangely missing from Wikipedia.)
Columnist - Jackie Ashley: "The Hon. Jackie Ashley . . . was educated at Rosebery Grammar School, Epsom, Surrey and St Anne's College, Oxford".
(Seems she had the benefit of a Grammar School education - nothing like denying to others the advantages one has had oneself)
Only Westminster on that list is a Good School, surely. So it matters that they attended Private Schools, not Good Schools.
Michael White (Associate Editor and former Political Editor of The Guardian) - Bodmin Grammar School
Bit harsh. If you'd spent your formative years being arse-raped by the big boys behind the bike sheds then you'd be against grammar schools as well. But enough of Polly, I'm sure the boys had it equally rough.
Private Eye is mainstream.
It misses the best of the lot: left-wing Trotskyite firebrand Seumas Milne (Winchester College)
As the person who originally posted the list on CiF last week (cribbed from Private Eye, I should add), and who put it on again today, I can't say I've noticed that they've deleted it (either time). I think they may their own little class war going on there.
I'd suggest, however, it's worth cutting-and-pasting to use anytime one of the Guardian toffs irritates you - that's what I've been doing.
Now where do they send their children ?
The Guardian is basically Isis for the masses and allows the socially elite to denigrate the academically elite while using their chequebooks and trust funds to buy private
Good luck to them, I don`t begrudge them their good fortune.
What I do begrudge is them shutting the door and pulling the ladder of opportunity away for others- for that they are bunch of elitist, privileged, bunch of cunts, who cannot tell their arse from elbows. Protectionist twats, rather than being for the masses, they are scared of us, What the desire most they wish to dispense largesse (with others hard earned) and expect us to be grateful and humble. Well I have news for them, we aint humble , we aint grateful, their rabble are going the way of the Dodo. Polly will be stuffed in the Natural History museum, in the reptile hall, next to the snakes. Kids will ask their teachers & parents, what was her purpose in life. The answer errrrrrrr, soggy chip paper wrapper
The Guardianistas love to wag their fingers at the rest of us but hate it when their own wealth and privilege is revealed - as in the Littlejohn/Toynbee incident on QT a few weeks back.
It comes as not surprise that many of their senior staff are public school educated. It also comes as no surprise that many of them live in areas which are low crime, good schools, leafy suburbs, very WMC doncha know.
It comes as no surprise that they, along with their NuLab chums, are a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
Ever wondered what Nu Conservatives have against Grammar schools?
Like David Davies I was brought up on a council estate, my parents had little dosh but they worked hard and taught right from wrong.
Moving from Secondary Modern to the Grammar (uniforms subsidised) was FREEDOM for us. We had to call the teachers Sir, we had wear uniforms thus everyone was equal, yet most of all we were free to learn without taunts from the bullies.
Much is quite rightly made about giving special attention to those children who have learning problems, yet it is also correct to give special attention to children who are bright but have parents who can not afford private education or move to an area where the state schools are above the national standard.
Above all else, Grammar schools enable the social mobility of the poor.
Thank God no decent school has come up in connection with these Guardianista cunts.
So much for social mobility, this just shows that closing down so many of the state run, or state funded grammar schools was a wonderful way of ensuring that the offspring of an elite which paid for schooling grabbed power and influence in politics and the media. I blame, Tony 'I'll close every fucking grammar school in the country', Crossland an old Wykamist and first class cunt.
As for NuLab's education policy, it has encouraged school mergers, and a steady rise in mega comprehensive schools (1,300+), if schools don't accept NuLab's diktats, money for new buildings and equipment is held back. I cannot think of a better way to encourage the worried middle class to mortgage themselves to the hilt to send their children to fee paying day schools.
Did Littlejohn ask Folly Toynbee about her views on social mobility, or how Gruaniadistas find workplacements for their offspring. I'm sure that Badminton School charges parents some of the highest fees in the country.
If the details are true, it shows just how contemptable NuLab and its apologists have become. Kick away the possiblity of social mobility through education and create a dependency culture.
Guido Fawkes said...
"Dunno - never read it - so dated."
Dated it may be GF, but I'm afraid 'Private Eye' was first with this one. Don't be so bitter.
look, I don't give a fuck if these zanulab-zombies went to public schools or state ones.
they will all be dispatched in an equally vigorous manner, regardless of their education.
the fact that these ones are hypocritical, lying cunts will not increase their ranking on the list.
they will not receive any preferential treatment and will be eradicated just like any other zanulab-zombie satanist motherfuckers.
I say 'equal treatment for all zombies.'
I do like to be as fair as possible.
"Dunno - never read it - so dated."
So dated that they had it out in print in shops up and down the country before Guido had even received the information!
Monbiot - on the payroll, if not on the staff is a Stoic.
Not to mention George Monbiot. Stowe.
ANON AT 4:55.
HA HA HA HA HA.
FUCK OFF YOURSELF YOU ILL EDUCATED TWAT.
Anonymous said...
Any attempt to foster any kind of unnatural division in society for political ends is crass and immoral.
If NuLab win with these tactics then the country faces a very dark future indeed.
May 21, 2008 12:15 PM
the unatural division is a two tier school system of which Labour and the Tories have done nothing to bridge the gap.
it is not ability that generally gets you far but money and connections, how much money you parents have will decide what schooling you get and ultmately how much you can earn.
the tories are well known for being in favour of the upper classes, yet Labour pretend to be in favour of the working classes yet the rich poor devide since labour came to power has widend.
clearly labour are liars incompetant - both, but their claims for improving the lot of the working class is but a sick joke, just ask the people who now pull their own teeth out for lack of a dentist, or those who cannot get social housing as they are not single parents or an asylum seeker.
10 fucking years and the working class are worse of under a socialist goverment.
the only way you can have a cohesive society without envy or contempt is to give people a fair start in life and this means health and education, if you make any devide at this point you have failed.
and when i say education i do NOT mean the one size fits all comprehensives hell holes, where the teachers are more interested in teaching gay love and EU communist propaganda than instilling any dissapline or teaching real subjects to a high std, in the comprehensive system the only teachers attracted are sadists and communists, no sane person would enter such pits as they currently are and our teacher standard falls as a result.
we need a school system based on grammer schools, strict disapline, not some bullshit lefty handwringing incompetence that has led to kids shooting and stabbing each other and intimidating the teachers who have no self respect and instill no respect in anyone, they are but sad pathetic social workers.
iradicate the private schools(the tories are now crying at the thought of losing their immoral advantage over their fellow men) put the money into the grammer schools and let the childrens future be guided by merit/ability in a cohesive society where if you work hard and study you will do well, regardless of wealth or background.
still the Tories are happy to keep the poor poorer it suites them, they talk of small goverment but in fact they are for NO help of the underpriviledged, their motto is - cant help yourself because you didnt get the same priviledged start as me - tuff, here let me kick some sand in your face while you are down, maggie style!
yes the caring sharing tories.
until you have an equal education system based on ability you will always have an us and them society and ever growing ghettos as no one has the education to break free, after 10 years of labour the poor are poorer and the comprehensive (communist) education has failed.
communism bullshit spouted by the priviledged middle class lefties is NOT the answer, pragmatism is!
equal opportunities means fuck all until you have equal education.
what has polly and her crew ever done to address this imballance that they themselfs have reaped the rewards from? - fuck all, because it is the `do as i say and not do as i do` middleclass lefty crowd, their claims to be for the poor is at best nothing more than a sanctimonios ego trip, but it makes THEM feel better about THEMSELFS with NO sacrifice.
you dont see the guardian full of comprehensive kids doing the top jobs - after ten years of labour and socialism that they craved i want to know - WHY FUCKING NOT!
neo marxism(PC) does not have the solution, it is in fact the enemy of the working classes as can be seen as society collapses all around us.
people like toynbee are the enemy of the working classes, and however much she may loath it, It is people just like Toynby who are DIRECTLY responsible for the rise of the BNP with the lefts constant communist attack on the working classes, democracy, liberty and this country.
the good news is that they will never get the chance to do it again, as long as we break free of the EU = big Labour.
ANON AT 4:55.
HA HA HA HA HA.
FUCK OFF YOURSELF YOU ILL EDUCATED TWAT.
And what of the Scott Trust?
Elizabeth ‘Liz’ Forgan is keeping it under wraps, as is Larry Elliott. Andrew Graham is a Carthusian, Will Hutton is a fellow grammar school boy, Rusbridger went to Cranleigh, while Jonathan Scott, Geraldine Proudler, Maleiha Malik and Phil Boardman are not disclosing.
Clare Armitstead (Bedales)- Wow: Is she a looker?
At my plate glass university, shagging a Bedales girl got you a 10, whereas the horsey bynts from Cheltenham got you a 1.
Guardianistas - a minority political cult woven around the Guardian newspaper that has exerted negative influence over British society disproportionate to its size. Characterised by a belief in the incontrovertible moral superiority of Left Wing Socialism and the use of fascist methods to coerce general belief in same. This involves subversion of and misrepresentation in the mainstream media, subversion of and brainwashing of children in the education system, subversion of and control of local government, etc. Their most effective strategy has been the infiltration and takeover of the BBC, from where they are able to manipulate and misrepresent "news" to further their ends. Largely responsible for the promotion of the sub-cult of "Political Correctness" which has been used to void the historic, cultural and political legacy of the British peoples. Fanatical supporters also of the now discredited "Multi-Culturalism" sub-cult of the notoriously fascist New Labour government which conspired for over 10 years to allow uncontrolled mass immigration, the creation of divisive ethnic ghettos and the encouragement and growth of groups of foreign political extremists promoting the ethnic cleansing (a Guardianista euphemism for genocide) of the indigenous white Christian population. Most Guardianistas conceal deep romantic feelings and longings for the iconography of the Russian Revolution, the rise of soviet imperialism and the worst excesses of international communism.
Although weakened and discredited by exposure and ridicule in the general rejection of the New Labour government in 2008, the Guardianistas still represent one of the most dangerous threats to the British way of life, to liberty, freedom of speech and the pursuit of happiness, to the dual sanctity of property and privacy, to the triumph of reason and the rule of law.
Especially dangerous when wet.
All bar one of them went to second rate rubbish schools, that's why they're so jealous.
Don't forget Andrew Rawnsley - Rugby School and Cambridge University
@ english liberation front
Their most effective strategy has been the infiltration and takeover of the BBC, from where they are able to manipulate and misrepresent "news" to further their ends
Great post - I completely agree.
How come no-one questions why the staff on the radio and TV news programmes have such huge influence yet are completely unrepresentative and unelected and why those drones are supposed to be treated as being completely apolitical when we know they make it nearly impossible for ANY opposition (LibDem and Tory) to operate. A small unelected group of possibly just 100 or so people having such power is a constitutional outrage. They are completely out of control - drunk with their self-importance and power.
Their huge power to indoctrinate and manipulate is used ruthlessly.
No new Conservative government can operate properly if you leave these Guardian/Labour people in control. On DAY ONE, the FIRST thing a new Conservative government must do is to completely rid us of this vast undemocratic power. Do what the Conservatives did to the overmighty unions. Tame them and make them democratic.
The BBC news and current affairs monopoly is now so corrupted that it must be closed down. The broadcasting infrastructure of the BBC (particularly the digital network) must be opened up to a multitude of companies providing broadcast news offering a great plurality of points of view.
I used to think it paranoid to believe that Labour wanted to destroy the school system in order to create an ill educated and hence pliant population. Now I'm not so sure.
My parents weren't rich; I got into the local grammar school, one of the best in England, on the strength of (1) passing the 11-plus, (2) a personal interview and (3) an IQ test. Yes, an interview and an IQ test. Can you imagine the howls of outrage if such tactics were mooted today?
Contrary to dogma, failing the 11-plus wasn't the end of the world. You could still join the grammar school if you showed aptitude and wanted to go (some didn't). Conversely, a couple of boys in my year got kicked out for laziness.
The school wasn't perfect. Certain characteristics of the local secondary modern were to be envied (not least its co-ed intake, or its superior facilities in many areas). Some of the masters were time-servers, worn down by decades of juvenile pranks -- a few of which were as cruel, ingenious and subtle as you might have expected from horrible 13-year-olds with outsized brains. The sarcasm we got in return sometimes approached genius level. But what the staff did have was high expectation of the boys. Score 85% in a test? Then why the hell didn't you get 100%, you idle little toad?
When I was 18 and revising for my A-levels, our family was visited by an American student reading, in her second year, the same subject at an Ivy-League university. She looked at my course-work and textbooks and was incredulous. She doubted even if the third-year students were that advanced.
What the grammar schools did was to nurture talent that would otherwise have been wasted. They were truly meritocratic, unlike the Pecksniffian utopia adumbrated by Labour politicians.
Now all that has been trashed and you see the results everywhere. Incompetent managers, illiterate copy-writers, and among the general population a profound, broad, and utterly depressing ignorance. If you want an education for your children you must pay twice for it. The alternative is to toss them into a state school, a cesspit of mediocrity infested by teachers who are themselves ignorant and, like as not, keen to pass off their misguided and misanthropic world-view as fact.
It all makes me very angry. The vandal-in-chief was Tony Crosland, may he rot in hell. It will not surprise you to learn that Tony Benn was one of his students.
"Kicking the ladder away" is the usual simile, and it couldn't be more apt.
english liberation front said...
May 21, 2008 8:16 PM
FIRST CLASS POST!
No new Conservative government can operate properly if you leave these Guardian/Labour people in control. On DAY ONE, the FIRST thing a new Conservative government must do is to completely rid us of this vast undemocratic power. Do what the Conservatives did to the overmighty unions. Tame them and make them democratic.
The BBC news and current affairs monopoly is now so corrupted that it must be closed down. The broadcasting infrastructure of the BBC (particularly the digital network) must be opened up to a multitude of companies providing broadcast news offering a great plurality of points of view.
May 21, 2008 9:05 PM
are you completely fucking stupid?
the FIRST thing the Tories will do is fill it with THIER cronies and flood the airwaves with Conservative propaganda and so it goes on. NO political party would deminish its complete grasp of power over the major broadcaster, they are cunts one and all.
however tory propaganda might have a few problems as no one knows what the fucking Tories stand for, other than being the other fucking nasty party!
All the tories are to the masses are ABL anyone but Labour - thats it!
The Guardianistas are a jealously protective, well-to-do caste.
Their view of the world is that there are:
Toffs - very rich and heartless, they take pleasure in killing foxes.
Capitalist bastards - very rich and vulgar, they would take pleasure in killing foxes, if they could make it pay.
Some people who work and keep their heads above water, don't like paying taxes and are pretty boring. They don't have any interest in foxes one way or the other. They pay for things but are of absolutely no interest otherwise. The certainly don't want help from the Guardianistas and generally laugh at them.
The lower echelons of society. The Guardianistas idolise them as the salt-of-the-earth in an abstract way and want to help them by throwing quantities of someone else's money at them; much of the money ends up in the pockets of the Guardianistas. The Guardianistas actually despise the underclass as individuals heartily, but they depend on them and have an interest in them remaining dependent.
The Guardianistas - who are caring and socially aware, and know what's best for everyone else, and in particular, what's best for them. The caste system as they see it, works very well.
Grammar schools are socially divisive, very unfair, too narrowly focussed and a throwback to an age, now thankfully long past, when there were only proto-Guardianistas. What's more, they are a direct threat to the Guardianistas.
The most exciting development in Guardianistaism in decades has been Global Warming. The whole fucking planet can only be saved by the Guardianistas forming committees, spending taxes and making the other castes feel guilty enough to fork out. This is an ambitious project involving nothing less than altering the earth's climate by certain ritual observances such as less efficient rubbish collection.
To be fair to the boy Rusbridger, it's hardly fair to include Cranleigh. I tend to say, when appropriate, that "I did not have the benefit of a secondary education, as I went to Cranleigh" - at much the same time as Alan, as it happens.
Thank all the gods for a magnificent prep school and universities. The only reason that I stay on the school's mailing list is that it costs them a fortune to send the garbage to me, against my life membership payment of a comical 20 quid. My children are under instruction not to notify the school of my death - if I should die, that is - so we can keep on costing them for centuries.
I think young Alan has done very well, with no credit to be given to his school.
Anonymous @ 5.25
Isn't it really tacky when children coat-tail their parents' life peerages, like Jackie Ashley? The point of an "Hon." is to show that you are the sibling of an inheriting eldest son, and therefore of the same 'rank' as the prospective peer.
Conversely, the intrinsic point of a life peerage is to acknowledge the public service [or whatever] of a specific individual, with there being absolutely no roll-on bunce and kudos down the generations. So these opportunist who claim an "Hon." for themselves are betraying both ends of the [admittedly ridiculous] social spectrum.
When life peers' brats pull this grubby and pretentious little stunt, it immediately stops me taking them or their opinions on anything seriously, in much the same way as people being revealed as readers of the Daily Mail.
Not directly on thread, although interesting; Andrew Marr (Jackie Ashley's husband) went to Loretto School (which is Scotland's oldest boarding school) and Cambridge University. Alistair Darling incidentally also went to Loretto School.
Does toynbe etc 7.45 - NOT all comprehensive school teachers are as you describe. A large number are excellent. But, they work for a state monopoly and monopolies always do 2 things - overcharge their customers and deliver poor value for money.
I agree that universal access to educational opportunity and essential healthcare free at the point of delivery are essential to ensure social mobility and the growth of the value of the country. I think that access to decent housing is also important. Given this and the availability of heating, food and clothing are universal at a relatively cheap price (which they are) then we will have a system that works.
But, there is a natural inflation in these things as politicians seek to buy more votes.
With the defeat of socialism as a viable philosophy the Man on the Clapham Omnibus now realises that what is wanted is just someone that can run the country on the basis described above. What he does not want is more 'help for hard working families', no more 'lifting children out of poverty' (actually achieved by making everyone else poorer), etc etc.
This of course leaves all these wanky guardianistas redundant. They need the politics of envy to have a franchise. Now thst it is dying out they are doomed.
@Downtrodden worker
"Crossland an old Wykamist and first class cunt"
Crosland (one 's') was not a Wykehamist (note spelling). He went to Highgate School. You may be thinking of Richard Crossman, although he had little to do with education, other than getting a double First at Oxford and becoming a Fellow.
Dennis @ 9.14 absolutely spot on about grammar schools and the effect their destruction has had on this country. Well bowled, sir!
Note to Mr Cameron.
No more adverts for government jobs in the Guardian.
Transfer all of this lovely revenue to a more deserving newspaper, or simply start the 'spending cuts' by advertising on some of the many HMG websites.
All those lovely Council, Medical BBC, Political, Police and Social Services etc vacancy advertisments being withdrawn may help to shrink the rather polluting noise that emenates from the Guardian.
After all, when Nulab is gone, if they will continue to bite the hand that feeds....
Threaten it now Dave, and listen to the shrill hectoring soften to a displeased muttering as the self interset takes hold.
Comment is free.. so why should taxpayers fund it?
I went to St. Bees School. I'm just sad that the Grauniad's Environment Editor (never heard of him before) went there as well. I'll have to ask a former teacher whether he showed any deviant signs even in his youth.
Really Guido, not reading Private Eye? I'd have thought its "Up yours" approach to journalism coupled to trenchant wit would have appealed to you. Mind you, I hate to think how many of ITS staff is public school educated.
Well as an 11+ failure who had the privilege of attending one of our magnificent secondary modern schools, I can tell you why I hate grammar schools. On second thoughts, I won't. I am sure you guys can work it out for yourselves.
Maurice Cowling was right.
Uk politics is still two semi-hereditary tribes playing games at the expense of the rest of us.
Which is worse.
Those who make money in order to go into politics or those who go into politics in order to make money?
And the only half decent state schools are being signed up to Common Purpose to make sure the next generation are brain dead zombies gibbering that vile organisation's mantras and bringing in a slave society.Fuck them all.
Dennis had it lucky, I also passed the 11+ but ended up in the first year intake at the former Grammar School which had just turned comprehensive.
There remained some old school staff who stuck it out for a few years and these taught me with much of the Grammar School ethos and got me to University along with most of my classmates, though that was not to be repeated in later years.
During my seven years at that school the barbarians, both pupils and staff, gradually took the place over with ill-discipline, grafitti and violence; until when in the Upper 6th the only refuges of sanity were the library, 6th form common room and the lobby area outside the Headmasters Office.
I gave it no thought at the time but I imagine that there would have been an almost constant " class war " going on in the Staff Room between the old guard and the young cunts coming in from the polytechnics. We certainly had no time for the latter as they were incompetent as teachers.
It was widely believed that the school was underfunded because it reflected an era of privilege and divisiveness; things got so bad that the LEA were 'compelled' to demolish the place just a few years after I left.
Quite why the Guadianistas thought this was a good thing was beyond me then and remains so now even though I used to read their paper at that time.
Yeah, - well done Guido’s buddy and again Guido. Proves what a load of two-faced shits they all really are. The gush about equality is balls. The arrogant sods just ‘know’ they are the ones who ‘care’ and ‘know’ what is best for us. Like f**k they do.
They know what’s best for THEM and their ghastly little cliques.
Stuff them up their own fundament as far as they can possibly go.
ABL 9:21
What stupid bloody comment is that? Have you got a fucking brain?
Just tell us when the Tories have been able to change and pack the staff of BBC News and current affairs at any time since the 1940s. Everyone knows that they are wall to wall lefties living in a hermetically sealed environment pushing their England-hating, Tory-despising, social-engineering agenda. Shut the bloody thing down and start again.
They allowed Labour to fuck the country up - they must stopped.
I went to a comprehensive in east London. I used to read the graundian because I felt it made me look far more educated and socially superior to the Sun reading footie hooligans that populated the school and local area.
I grew up, got a job entered the real world and left the sixth form debating society that was the basis of my then nascent political life. Must confess I still have my Billy Bragg records from those days and they still get an airing on high days and holidays.
I suspect many Graun readers have not left the sixth form mentally and still feel that the rolled up copy of the Gaurdin is a badge of mental and social superiority
Reading Milne's columns I always thought that he had left school at 11 to work down the pit. As always it is easy to talk about the revolution when you are earning in a day more money than most working class people see in a month.
I was at school with Clare Margetson. She seemd perfectly normal then and was a looker too (that was 23 years ago mind you).
Im hope she hasn't become a bitter socialist old bag at the Guardian. That would be a shameful waste of a good brain and a nice pair of legs.
Anon said "Above all else, Grammar schools enable the social mobility of the poor."
Which is why NuLab hates Grammars. Can't have poor, working class kids going to grammar schools, mixing with the middle classes, learning to think and - horror of horrors - getting a good job and then voting tory.
No, far better to keep them poor and sucking on the state's teat.
Social mobility under labour has virtually ground to a halt.
How proud those trotsky twats must be - they've kept the proles in their place to guarantee a beholden vote pool.
"They allowed Labour to fuck the country up - they must stopped."
Not difficult to fuck this country up - it's largely self-fucking.
Of course, you don't have to be privileged to get 4 years No Claim Discount.
Alex: Fat finger syndrome rules. However, I did mix up Crossman and Crosland, but both were first class useless idiots.
Have any of the Gruanidista groupies ever spelled out where their sons, daughters were educated? I was wondering if Folly Toynbee would like to put this in the public domain, or would this show that she is a hypocrite of the first order.
Apparently La Harman has had a reputation as a difficult interviewee, and is frequently tetchy if not ill at ease.
A BBC reporter asked for advice on how to deal with her. The boss advised asking a question about the well being of her family has helped.
La Harman arrived, was tetchy and yet managed to upset the young reporter.
His first remark was 'So Ms. Harman, how does your son like his new grammar school?
Some Bloke:
I think we went to the same school and were in the same year if you are talking about Chiswick Comprehensive.
You describe it perfectly.
Hortense - "Not difficult to fuck this country up - it's largely self-fucking"
Has that inane comment any meaning? Perhaps you would like to explain.
Next, I would like to see a list of their second homes - sorry, villas. I gather, from Question Time, that we can start with Pollytoff 'Badders' Toynbee: Tuscany.
I can confirm that Charles Anthony Raven Crosland went to Highgate School, along with my dad.
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Hortense - "Not difficult to fuck this country up - it's largely self-fucking"
Has that inane comment any meaning? Perhaps you would like to explain.
Meaning perfectly clear. Perhaps you would like to explain why you can't understand it?
Anyone interested in doing something about this? How about setting up a site where these links - which I suspected are well-known to most of the Westminster and Islington villages - are made explicit?
Socialism has always been the hobby of the wealthy classes, as documented in the book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guilt-Blame-Politics-Allan-Levite/dp/0966694309/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211451792&sr=8-10
Socialism is for those who can afford it
I was brought up in a working class area of an industrial town.My year was the last to take the 11+.Of my (male) primary school class of 36,nine of us went to university including three to Cambridge because we had the chance to pass to the best schools in the district.Now the local boys go to the local "sink school" and only those in better off areas have a decent education.Crosland can rot in hell.
Anyone interested in doing something about this? How about setting up a site where these links - which I suspected are well-known to most of the Westminster and Islington villages - are made explicit?
Only if it isn't just about schools. Why not expand it to include all the grotesquely hyprocritical stuff Guardianistas get up to? There's a lot of it about.
another bloke said May 22 9:21 AM
"...if you are talking about Chiswick Comprehensive.
You describe it perfectly.
Afraid not, other side of the river.
Only if it isn't just about schools. Why not expand it to include all the grotesquely hyprocritical stuff Guardianistas get up to? There's a lot of it about.
Absolutely. Prime targets would be hypocrisy, nepotism and hidden financial interests.
Polly Toynbee, I'm informed, sent her kids to Westminster.
You're forgetting (admittedly it's easy to do) Guardianette Zoe Williams (Godolphin and Latymer).
Albury Manor County Secondary School
My cousin is from an ordinary family. He went to a grammar school: now he's doing his finals at Oxford. Enough said. Of course the Libro-fascists want to destroy grammar schools: they hate meritocracy. Because the incompetent are threatened by merit.
Guido - if Private Eye's so "dated" how come it still managed to beat you to the punch on this one? Methinks you doth protest too much!
Guido - if Private Eye's so "dated" how come it still managed to beat you to the punch on this one? Methinks you doth protest too much!
sam tana,
you are the midget-spastic hislop and I claim my £5.
oh, and methinks you sound like a right cunt.
I hate to interupt all the snide swearing but is there actually quite an interesting point here?
Does the Guardian have more privately-educated staff than other papers? or are they just a representative sample of the elite middle classes that run our media?
well charlie fuckwit, if you hate to interrupt all the snide swearing then don't, you boring cunt.
I think conservativehome would be more suited to your prudish and and interfering character.
what a wanker!
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