Post May 2 : Potential Battlelines
Gordon and the diminishing band of loyal Brownies must be thinking ahead to May 2 about the tactics and strategies to be employed to quell a PLP mutiny. The declining wider membership is so demoralised and disappointed that it is for now quiescient and no grassroots threat is likely. Avoiding giving the PLP opportunities to lash out at Gordon will be the prime goal.With Mayor Boris in office and Labour suffering triple figure losses elsewhere, the keen sense of self preservation felt by politicians will come into action. Ken will no doubt blame Gordon (and his bad press), the timing of Gordon's 10p debacle will be blamed by the legions of local councillors who will be mourning their lost jobs.
Guido believes that constitutionally and practically it is too late to mount a formal leadership challenge to Brown's under Labour Party rules in time for the September conference. So it would have to be by non-constitutional means that he is dragged out of Downing Street - Jack Straw no doubt will be at the back of the delegation doing the dragging. Another option is to make the 42-days vote effectively a confidence vote. Since the opposition will unanimously vote it down, it will be up to Labour backbenchers if they want to get rid of their unelected leader.
If Gordon kicks 42-days into touch it will signal his fears of the consequences...
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They forced Blair out, so why can't they force Brown out?
Or are they so bloody thick, that after dumping their best leader ever, they will hang on to their worst leader ever?
Ferrets are attractive animals, what have they done to deserve being compared to labour MP's ?
This morning on BBC News saw the final interview with the party leaders re forthcoming local elections. Previously Cameron & Clegg had represented their parties but today we were subject only to the odious platitudes of Harriet Harman: poor sod, shoe-horned in while, presumably, Brown was shitting himself in a far corner somewhere. Nothing new there, then.
Perhaps they should introduce a 365 day detention period for Politicians suspected of fraudulent behaviour. Their tactics are certainly more devious, complicated and hard to invstigate than any terrorist's.
Don't count your chickens too early for May 2nd Guido.
ZaNuLor might have learnt a trick or two from their colleagues south of the Equator.
Oh what pure joy... This is like waiting for a car crash.
Once the local elections are over, stock up on popcorn and settle down in your comfy chair, everyone!
Is a Boris victory really that certain? I would like to think it is but I'm wary of writing off Ken with his welfare army and the ethnic minrity bloc votes.
So you think Boris will win?
not acording to this east London poll
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/raceformayor/mayorELA/Default.aspx
The allowed themselves to be saddled with this unelected man, unfit for office and woefully inadequate as PM. Barely any of them had the courage to vote for John McDonnell, nor did David Milliband have the courage to stand (think how enhanced his position would be now, if he had).
They knew what Gordon Brown was and is.
The fully deserve to reap everything they have sown after 11 years of disastrous government.
From Independent write up of Boris/Ken debate
Mr Livingstone appeared to acknowledge the damage that accusations of cronyism had done and ... said he would offer jobs to Mr Johnson and Mr Paddick
Even as I write the Gobshite will be lacing up his kicking boots.
Moral Compass = Due Self Interest (Fucking Coward)
What happened to the Master Strategist? Surely he could have foreseen the backlash against 42 days when it was first announced. Couldn't he have quietly dropped it?
He will kick 42 days into touch. It will not be easy for someone who believes 'We always take the right decisions' but he will make the best of a bad job by blaming the Tories for being 'soft on terrorism.'
Unfortunately for him, no one will be able to hear him above the laughter.
Cameron will no doubt be hoping that Brown decides not to risk it, otherwise with Brown gone and (perhaps) Straw in place, Labour could yet win the next election.
Jack 'Childcatcher' Straw is/was a mate of Brown's, and ran [would have run, if there had been one] his leadership campaign last year. Brown gave him a high-profile Cabinet position after Bliar's tacky, GWB-lapdog humiliations over the Foreign Secretary-ship. If Straw were to become PM, I feel he would be shuffling backwards into the limelight rather than participating identifiably in any prime-ministerial euthanasia.
If Gordon kicks his 42 days wet dream into touch it will serve to prove that he is now nothing more than an empty vessel.
The problem for the snot gobbler is that he stands for nothing, has reformed nothing, can decide on nothing, has improved people's lives by an amount not unadjacent to nothing, charms and engages nothing and is a brooding, smelly looking, bullying, cry-baby cunt.
Why does he even want to be PM for the next 2 years? What is it all for?
He is a boil on the face of the nation and needs to be lanced.
Lord Levy (I think) described Gordon as feverishly jumping up and down and quivering with excitement the day he was made PM and shouting "I'm PM! I'm PM! I finally made it!".
Does this strike anyone as the sort of person who would let go of the finally-attained position voluntarily, merely because they reaslised they were harming their government?
I don't think sooooooo
I think the time has come for a quick, clean assassination.
A sniper's bullet to the back of the head would do.
All good stuff, but I want is to see the incompetent snot eating bastard totally humiliated and made to live in the penury into which he has consigned millions of Britons and to account for the squandered cash and opportunity legated to him by the agonies we went through under the Thatcherite reforms.
Unless that comes about I won't be satisfied.
Perhaps we might see a clear return of the involuntary shaking hand and arm at PMQs, more reports of broken blackberries, mobile phones and more evidence of the famous psychological flaws. If the results are really bad perhaps Goron will lie down and hide for 5 days, before opening a new primary school.
Can we look forward to the summoning of the men in white coats?
Gordon is now going to be dogged by questions on his leadership weakness.
He manages to blame America 3 times for his woes whilst ignoring the questions put
http://thecrownblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/04/gordon-blames-america.html
Unless they manage to throw taxpayer money at the Unity Bank, the Labour Party will be in administration by the end of the year.
42 days?
If you look at the 10 Downing Street website, you will see that it has now gone up to 48 days. Scroll to bottom of page look under MISC.
Team Blair would never had been so incompetent.
Comment in today's Times:
Sir, In AD68 the Emperor Nero was succeeded by Servius Sulpicius Galba, who had been waiting so long that by the time he became emperor he was in his early 70s. Though from a noble family, and not an unpopular choice, he quickly lost support by putting in place several unpopular financial measures. First, he denied the Praetorian Guard a promised pay rise, then he disgusted the mob by his meanness and lack of display. He surrounded himself with a small clique of favourites and became increasingly isolated. Rebellion broke out among the legions in Germany, and Galba was eventually butchered early in AD69. More than a hundred people claimed to have actually struck the fatal blow.
Tacitus wrote of him: “Consensu omnium, capax imperii nisi imperasset”, which is translated roughly as “Everyone agreed that he was capable of ruling until he actually got the job”. I have a feeling that for Mr Brown, the writing has been on the wall for the past 2,000 years.
There's no need to drag Mr Brown out of Downing Street kicking, screaming and throwing mobile phones. Surely he could be sedated first.
Guido, is it true that Kate Hoey will join Boris' team if elected? That will halve the number of principled members on the labour benches (giving Field the benefit of the doubt!!)
Is anyone keeping a list of all the TV/Radio interviews Gordon Brown has ducked out of at the last minute? So far I make it: Radio 5 Live, BBC's Today programme and BBC Breakfast News. But Brown did manage to give an interview to "Baroness" Fiona Phillips at GMTV where they had a nice cosy chat about football.
Does Brown realise that he is just pissing off important media people?
The whole thing has shades of the Brown's exclusive with Andrew Marr over bottling the election.
Brown writes a book on "Courage" but he can't even face up to Bill (I keep bees, don't you know?) Turnbull on Breakfast TV.
So you think Boris will win?
not acording to this east London poll
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/raceformayor/mayorELA/Default.aspx
I suspect that those results are not quite what will transpire on Friday. Top 3 below.
Who would you vote for in the Mayoral Election?
Ken - 9.25%
Boris - 21.51%
Richard Barnbrook - 58.27%
Prepare for vote rigging on a scale that would make Mugabe blush. Around my way, polling cards have not been received in potential Con/Lib Dem areas, but Lab controlled Council says "you can vote by turning up and the polling station and giving your name and address". Seems to me whoever has our polling cards can do the same, so I'd better get there early.
There is MASSIVE corruption and fraud under way in London, inner London anyway. If the London Mayoral election is 'neck and neck' as some say, then corruption and fraud WILL tip the balance Leninstone's way. I hope journalists are up to this because the Police will not take the lead in investigating it because:
1) They are paid by and under the political control of Leninstone.
2) The vote-rigging, corruption and fraud is done in the guise of 'ethnic minorities'. In the same way that child sex abuse, rape and trafficing in women is OK if carried out by Muslims in the guise of 'arranged marriages', so community organsised 'voting' using postal ballot forms is also an 'ethnic' issue. The Police will not want to be involved.
England's Prime Minister MacTwat has lost any gravitas he ever had. The more he tries to strike these 'are'nt I wise and wonderful' poses the more he looks ridiculous. This is despite the excellent work of his new slinky Gaff Avoidance Officer Nicola Burdette.
Watch out for him sniffing around schools again soon for good photo ops. The kids still seem to think is fun having an ugly old scotch twat come into thier classroom with a bunch of dudes holding cameras and trying to ask him questions that he ignores. Hope the kids don't ask him is he has ever had a proper job in his life.
Old Labour is back. useless
I truly hope your optimism is not misplaced Guido.
Brown would not be stupied enough to call a snap "Back Me or Sack Me" election, would he? Oh. Hang on. This IS Jonah Brown we are talking about...
Well, I think we all know how Gordon will be pushed out of Downing Street - and I've ALWAYS wanted to say it - by the Balls.
@ tuscan tony 9.33
That was Bliar. Can you imagine the mess if Gorgon did it? It would bring new meaning to the phrase " the shit was flying "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=562330&in_page_id=1770
This triumphalism is going to make Guido look a bit silly, when Ken wins.
Does anyone seriously believe an internet poll will have contributors from across the spectrum of the London electorate?
As for triple digit Tory gains well 175-200council seats surely has to be the minimum requirement for a party expecting to take office in two years.
homo bumitus:
'This triumphalism is going to make Guido look a bit silly, when Ken wins.'
How nasty. Guido has been on newsnight so he is used to it anyway!
Anonemo 12:07. Shame. I was the image of the jangling jowls and Oliver Hardy-style suit pinging up and down by the cheap grey braces this morning. All good things must come to a climax, though, as Humphrey Lyttelton might have put it.
Dear Homo erection,
Guido was charmingly naive in thinking the BBC wouldn't seek to make him look a total knob.
I'm desperate for Boris to win, but does anyone seriously believe this gang of pigs who have virtually eaten the trough will allow it to happen?
Postal vote fraud will swing it for good ole Ken, that's the way of Dictators don't you know.
I luvs knobs me
From The Times April 12, 2008
Gordon Brown: the terrible vacuum
The Prime Minister is disastrous, with no ideas. He may well be ousted before the next election
Matthew Parris
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/matthew_parris/article3731645.ece
Charlotte Corday said...
"Is anyone keeping a list of all the TV/Radio interviews Gordon Brown has ducked out of at the last minute? So far I make it: Radio 5 Live, BBC's Today programme and BBC Breakfast News."
I think he was supposed to be on BBC Radio Devon yesterday but don't quote me. The radio was on in the background and the presenter was apologising for someone failing to appear; then I heard Gordon Browns name so stopped paying any attention.
Just WHAT IS IT he does with his tongue?
Does anyone really believe that the spineless wankers making up the ZaNuLiebour Cabinet will keep on supporting Jonah when the shite hits the fan? Please, get real!
At the first sign of trouble they'll split like a plank with an axe and go off 'briefing' the newspapers of how the support for Jonah is sinking fast.
Their only problem is who to follow? 'Cos that's what they are - followers. Not a brain cell providing individual thought.
Anon @ 11.07am There is MASSIVE corruption and fraud under way in London, inner London anyway. If the London Mayoral election is 'neck and neck' as some say, then corruption and fraud WILL tip the balance Leninstone's way. I hope journalists are up to this because the Police will not ...
We'll be looking to you, Guido, and your sleuthing pals. At a pinch, I don't even mind if you shut down your blog for a couple of weeks whilst you collate the evidence. However, let's hope Boris is elected and we wont be deprived of our daily entertainment - a definite Win/Win situation.
As far as the next general election goes it doesn't really matter if/when/to-whom they change leader (although my money's on Brown being physically kicked out of number 10 on 3rd may at 3:12pm by Jack Straw), they'll all still be crucified when it comes to the big vote in a year or 2's time.
Politicians, the BBC, and the City have all been acting like ostriches with their head in the sand the last 11 years, refusing to admit what a totally incompetent moron Gordon Brown really is.
"How about this, let's double the poorest people's tax? that'll be a good idea"
"Hey, no, better than that, why don't I take everyone's money away from them and then get them to beg me to give them back just enough to live on using thousands of forms?"
"Ooooh, no, I know, even better, let's just destroy the whole economy, that way nobody has any money and they *all* have to come crawling to me."
Fucking idiot; I hope he drowns in his own vomit.
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GUIDO - SORRY TO SPEAK IN 'CAPSLOCK' BUT JUST WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION - CAN WE HAVE AN 'OLYMPIC' STYLE [EVEN SPACE SHUTTLE STYLE..] 'COUNTDOWN CLOCK' TO THE 42-DAY DETENTION VOTE ??
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internment boosted the membership if the IRA.
if brown and smith succeed in pushing this 42 day policy of internment through they will rapidly increase the number of terrorists and terrorist attacks in this country.
this is an issue of confidence.
how can we have confidence in a government which is actively encouraging an increase in terrorism in order that their party can score petty political points.
Just what is behind the gov't's obsession with 42 days, 45 days or whatever ?
They admit they've yet to use the current maximum, the cops say they don't need the extension so why does this item never go away ? 42 days = 6 weeks, are they going to lock up bloggers & dissenters before the next general election (joke)?
As for someone upthread wishing to see GB reduced to penury, not a chance, he'll get a lovely job in Brussels like so many other failed Labour scum.
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