Is Jack Straw Four Votes from Becoming PM?
Sky's Jon Craig, who didn't join the Lobby to stand around in bars speculating idly, is playing What If...- Gordon loses Monday's vote to double the 10p tax rate on low earners on Frank Field's rebel amendment?
- What if Ken Livingstone loses to Boris Johnson in London on May 1?
- What if Labour rebels throw out 42-day detention for terrorists next month?
The first would be a personal defeat for Brown, he introduced the 10p rate, he is abolishing it. If Londoners voted for Boris it would put real fear into Southern Labour MPs. If the third vote is lost, and most Labour Party MPs and activists don't have their heart in needless 42-day detention, it will surely be curtains for Gordon.
Who would the PLP then want to lead them in times of trouble? Not one of the young pretenders. Jack Straw would be their Michael Howard figure. Safely captaining the sinking ship, hopefully without the loss of too many lives / seats. The PLP would vote for Jack ahead of Cruddas...
Who would the PLP then want to lead them in times of trouble? Not one of the young pretenders. Jack Straw would be their Michael Howard figure. Safely captaining the sinking ship, hopefully without the loss of too many lives / seats. The PLP would vote for Jack ahead of Cruddas...
58 comments:
Sadly, not curtains at all- Brown would just have to to align himself closer to the PLP. The rules of the PLP protect the incumbent, and would Straw really want what is in effect a poison chalice?
And what a fabulous PM he will make too.
It is what this electorate deserves. That, and a lethal pandemic.
I have been predicting the coming of Jack Straw as PM for a while now. He is the ideal "steady ahead" candidate. Labour will still be slaughtered at any election held later than this June. An election held soon might be fought by Labour under the banner of "the economy still has strong fundamentals", leave it to later this year or even next and that claim will be shown for the lie it is.
Who cares who they have as leader, so long as they remain unelectable for another 50 years.
Hopefully the electorate will have longer memories and remember what the UK has been turned into by New Labour, a complete shit-hole, over-taxed, under performing, HUGE unaffordable public sector, police state tactics agains the innocent (while letting criminals free).
New Labour are the WORST government in the entire history of the UK, including Cromwell.
it cant be straw , it has to be someone who has puppy dog eyes and a quavering appologetic voice . any leader of nu labour is now facing years of random veg throwing from the poor and working class who have now been rogered wholesale .
i mean george galloway got s stress ball , these bastards will be facing public cannon balls .
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As matt severn (which sounds like a Gerry Anderson TV series) said, following Brown at this point would mean supping from a poison chalice (which has been purchased on the never-never with Enron-style PFI financing).
So the only people who would accept the job are Labour politicians of the older generation who have no prospect of becoming PM under any other circumstances. Straw would have to be the favourite among them because the only chance Labour have of avoiding a massive defeat at the next general election is through cynical tub-thumping populism, i.e. blame everything on City fat cats and illegal immigrants, and for that Straw is the best option they have. Would he be willing to do it? I don't see what Straw has to lose, when it's his last and only chance to occupy the top seat.
Of course, if they do take that option it will just be another reason why Labour deserve to lose by a landslide.
1. The rebels will back down enough for the vote to pass by 5 - 10 votes.Then a victory is claimed by all sides of the Labour party. "We listened to you concerns" and "we voiced your concerns" trust us!
2.Ken may just shave it by having better organisation, immigrants'helped' to make a selection, and tory support not being fully mustered on the day. Even if Boris wins it probably wont be decisive and therefore only a setback, not the end."Ken is an independant not nuLabour/ it was a very narrow win / we won a greater % of votes/ we won more poor voters/ its the congestion charge which won't effect anyone voting outside of London.. the propoganda is just too easy..
3.The rebels won't rock the boat and GB may very well have had enough brinkmanship to let this 42 days one be stopped altogether [ by withdrawing it for a review] or altered enough to allow it to pass as a 32 day , and then shove it through Europe anyway later on.
Sorry but this isn't Berlin, its only Alamein. There is a long long way to go against fanatical NuLabour stormtroopers who know how to fight a good rearguard action.
Gordon will be in that bunker for a few years yet.
"This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
is robin cook 4 votes from being pm?
could have happened.
Jack Straw - Decisive, Dangerous, Lethal, Silent, Dreaded, Powerful.
A newer version of Lavrenti Beria.
Beware Jack Straw.
I've heard that Tony Blair may be a candidate at the Crewe and Nantwich by-election. I'm not making this up.
A Straw could be the one that broke the Brown back.
I have said many times that the straw man is one to watch.Consider his age and how long labour will be out of office this is shit or bust it has to be now or an old age full of what ifs.
Go for it jackie boy save your party from "total" snot induced oblivion.
Brown forced Blair to sack one of the few good men in Labour Govt. Field was a threat to Brown. He would stop Brown's social engineering handouts yet protect the truly vulnerable. He had to go.
Now Field is the catalyst for the destruction of Brown's reputation and possibly eviction from office. Perhaps there is a God after all.
So s'pose GB goes, is there a precedent for yet another PM imposed by a party apparatus without a general election ?
Straw gives me the creeps.
Oh no, for fucks sake no. Jack Straw as PM. It would be like have thick as thieves as PM. Where is he today anyway, they still changing his nappy at The Happy Spaz nursing home, deluded dribbling cunt he is!
Not fucking Jack Straw. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, bastard gives me heart burn!
Aren't there a few skelletons in Jack the Lads cupboard, waiting for an airing. Vague memories of harrasment and a penchant for chocolate coloured treats ?
It's not going to happen.
A fudge on the 10p tax thing was made yesterday.
Ken will either win or lose by a cat's whisker, so the spinners can bowl either way.
Blair wasn't damaged at all over 90 days and neither will Brown be over 42. Wouldn't take much effort to conjure up some terror alert before the vote in order to make the case or afterwards just to prove it.
Straw is just as dangerous as the rest of the fuckwits.
Time to dig out that happy-snap of him wearing tin hat and flak-jacket while trailing after Condi?
This isn't really off-topic. Have a look at the new English Claim of Right if you have an interest in the West Lothian Question.
Down with the Jockracy!
Jack Straw would be their Michael Howard figure. Safely captaining the sinking ship, hopefully without the loss of too many lives / seats. The PLP would vote for Jack ahead of Cruddas...
Are you taking the piss Guido? Straw? As an alternative to Cruddas, maybe, but Straw? Fuck me he would be worse than Brown.
His performances on TV and QT would be pored over and he would be a laughing stock, from his laughably idiotic comments on QT to his almost acolyte like description of mohammed as the holy prophet on TV complete with hand wringing during the cartoon debacle.
Straw would hand even more votes to the Tories.
Straw is not Labours Michael Howard, he is Labours Michael Foot.
Safely captaining the sinking ship......Condi Rice wouldn't think so.
It is obvious to all but the most fanatical of his hirelings that Brown is a totally useless c**t -I baulk at using the word cunt- whose economic chickens are coming home to roost at the expense of Joe Public. And Joe Public will have his vengence at the polls.
Straw is the only serious card the Labour Party can play for a semi dignified exit, in which case some of Labour's Southern MPs might just save their seats in the forthcoming electoral wipeout. Straw might also have the effect of forcing Cameron to up his game, which to date has been pretty lame.
However, the Labour Party is full of spineless, unprincipled, unpatriotic, careerist, greasy pole, petit-bourgeios, champagne socialist, party-before-country wankers. I simply can't see any of that lot having enough guts and good sense to wield the knife.
Do not underestimate Labour's powers of recovery whilst they still have their own personal Broadcasting Service - the corrupt BBC News.
OTT- very interesting article in the Telegraph yesterday “BBC News makeover triggers nausea” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/nbbc221.xml
Viewers have complained of "dizziness and nausea” following the introduction of new special effects on the BBC News programmes.
One person apparently complained that "The way the globe keeps changing rather quickly and flashily makes my head spin rather. I don't know what effect it would have on an epileptic person."
There are similar reports from people who have attended Common Purpose “training” courses.
Can any one trained in hypnotism or mind bending techniques let us know if these special effects could dull the viewer’s critical/intellectual faculties to allow an uncritical acceptance of the messages to follow.
If so, a very useful technique for the Government broadcasters to use.
The results of the local elections are likely to be much more of a shock to Labour than the 10p tax lark, the Ken/Boris scrap or the 42 day mularky. Put all of them together and the pinkos will be running for the hills.
city of vice;
'However, the Labour Party is full of spineless, unprincipled, unpatriotic, careerist, greasy pole, petit-bourgeios, champagne socialist, party-before-country wankers'
So a lot like the conservatives then!
Ali Hanson’s view:
What did you think of this weeks games?
Well the defence was woeful. They were at 6’s and 7’s all over the place. Who was marking the speaker?
The reds need to start looking for a new striker and a new defence. I’ve never seen so many own goals.
The blues have an untried striker up front who may not be up to the pitch!
In previous seasons we’ve also seen very bad defence from the blues and other clubs.
There’s plenty of very nervous faces on all benches at the moment!
Tom Fullery
Jack Straw in charge? God no, that would be torture.
Labour are going down at the next election whenever it is called because they have failed on the economy, totally. It wouldn't matter who was in charge. Labour don't have anyone with any experience of running the economy except Brown, and he has screwed up monumentally. The economy is going to hell in a handcart and only a miracle could stop it now.
Polls are showing Tories 10points ahead, but that would translate to 17points ahead in a general election, even if it was held right now. Also, the Tories have been targetting the marginals for some time and Labour know they are losing heavily in those marginal and have been since Brown flirted with the idea of having an early election. Labour simply haven't the cash to fight back in those seats.
Straw wouldn't be a good choice for Labour. His seat depends heavily on the Muslim vote. The Tories would use this fact to skewer him by forcing him on the defensive over immigration & radicalIslam. He would get to keep his seat but the rest of the core Labour vote would switch to the Tories or the BNP. Straw might be attracted to the idea of getting his hands on the keys to No10, but he certainly wouldn't relish going down as the shortest lived PM in British history.
Anonymous tory/labour different cheek said...
So a lot like the conservatives then!
So the Labour cock sucking trolls are out but with a different tack!
They are all the same does not wash you cunt...
Mind you, wouldn't it be fun to see Straw at the despatch box while Cameron waved the headlines about him trying to feel up and get a bit of nooky from some female MP's?
That might be worth campaigning to get him elected to PM.
He looks like the headmaster out of 'The Demon Headmaster' TV series, and is just as sinister and evil as his doppleganger.
Look into his eyes and you will be hypnotised with New Labour bullshit
Backwoodsman is right. Jack "the lad" has a very VERY colourful history of ahem ugandan discussions with young party members and aspiring MPs. The tabloids have the pictures and the stories but no-ones interested at the moment. If he became PM.......he would be shredded.
Jack is the future of the Labour Party.
isn't jack a former communist?
now his party taxes the poor, it's an incredible turnaround really. as if the man has no morals whatsoever.
and this may sound cruel but are we seriously considering going from 'blind boy' brown, to 'deaf boy and muslim antagonist' straw?
give me a fucking break.
straw's a spastic.
Bill Quango@1.07am.
You are very likely to be proved completely correct. Regretably, the bastards will not give up their salaries and tax free expenses just for a 'principle'.
Shotgun:
Bring it on you fucking cunt of a retarded muppet, i'll fucking cave your face in!
tory/labour same arse cheek whatever i fucking called myself last time. TWAT!!!
Slightly off topic:
Today we are told there is to be a meeting talking about 'fuel poverty'. Well, by abolishing the 10% tax band Brown has directly contributed to this. Let's see if this obvious fact is mentioned on the BBC news reports.
I can't see the Labour MPs voting against Brown - unless they have a cast-iron deal that such a move would only trigger a leadership election. Brown has the whip hand in that he can go to the Queen to call an election - which the rebels know will be a disaster for them.
So how do they ease Brown out while stopping him playing his 'nuclear' card? Presumably it will have to be a 'medical' reason - or a News of the World type scandal.
It’s not going to happen.
If any of the elections go against the will of el Gordo, he will arrange for a terrorist incident and suspend democracy so he can rule by decree.
All the nuLieBore bastards need to be dragged out of office and hanged.
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10.19 AM,
you sound like a right spastic.
I recall Sean Gabb predicting Straw would be leader after Blair. His prophecy didn't come true then but his reasons for people rejecting Brown were very prescient:
"For all he is the current favourite, Gordon Brown strikes me as worth ignoring. He has been in the same office as long as most people care to remember. There is nothing fresh about him. He is tainted with all the crimes and follies of Mr Blair himself. This aside, he looks like the sort of man who would once have made it to the senior ranks of the Inquisition—or who, in early Soviet times, would have liquidated millions without one human thought."
Coldfinger looked coolly around his new office, which was in fact his old office in most respects. The chairs were battered, lamps at a wonky angle and the books were in no particular order on the shelves. He pulled a volume down and sneezed as he disturbed a woolly layer of dust.
This has got to go, he thought. Glass table and Philippe Stark acrylic chairs; that's the thing, nowhere to hide. They probably wouldn't stand for a disrobing room outside but he could make the secretaries ask to take peoples' coats and jackets and bags - put them on a rack and say it was for security. Well, it was true.
Atmosphere. The air was too dry. What this room needed was hydration, an ornamental fish pool with a little Zen bridge over it, so calming to the spirit. A sliding bridge so that when necessary the victim - sorry minister- could splash effortlessly in to the shimmering piranha pool below. There wasn't enough space for sharks - the RSPCA had already ruled them and alligators out.
His reverie was interrupted by a tap at the door, followed by a badger-headed man poking his nose round the edge at about waist-height, sniffing and pushing his glasses up on the bridge of his nose.
"Just popped in to say hello. You know, I was just thinking, we go back along way you and me - we both started here over 10 years ago. Now the others have gone."
"Yes. Long time."
"So, it's like we've got each other. I'll always be here for you."
"Yes. Indeed."
"Right, well, I'll just run along then, shall I?"
"Yes. That would be best."
The door clicked shut. Coldfinger picked up the antiquated cream telephone and stabbed the huge light-up tab on the top.
"Anna - don't let people through until I've given them re-clearance."
"Apologies master, it won't happen again."
"Good and I hope you are wearing that cream silk sheath I told you to put on. I've turned the heating up and told security to burn that tatty hoodie you had hidden in your desk. Now, call Ed Balls over here, would you. When he gets to the outer office, make him take his shoes off and throw them in the bin. Thank you."
Coldfinger opened his briefcase and took out a folding Stinger which the Metropolitan Police Commissioner had been kind enough to lend him for examination. He laid it out a short way in front of the door and dragged an ugly Chinese baroque rug over it.
He poured a glass of water from a clean carafe on the catering unit, then placed it carefully on the table, lining up his chair and the glass and the door so as to have the best view possible. He had waited a long time for this consummation, now he savoured the last few minutes of anticipation.
Re. Anon 9:51's comment that: "he (Straw) certainly wouldn't relish going down as the shortest lived PM in British history".
If he takes over from Gordon "snotgobbler" Brown in the next few weeks he needn't be the shortest-lived PM, that would be the mucus-muncher himself!
Mr Bill Quango has it. The regular backbench rebellions are just showbiz, Marshall-Andrews, Corbyn, Abbott, they're rubbish, flotsam and jetsam. If they didn't resign over Iraq there's nothing rebellious about them.
The dandy, Himmler Straw, though, the malformed Beau Brummel of the toiling class, hero of the UN, holder of the US Congressinal Order of the gullible Limey Cocksucker, first class; visionary foreign secretary and a home secretary so useless that even a blind man felt he couldn't do any worse, well, Straw is a true folk hero.
In his own estimation - and with only a little help from Bob, John, Paul, George and the numptie; LSD, marijuana, the birth pill and the Underground press - Jack invented the 'sixties revolution. Drugs, he says, weren't available at Leeds polytechnic in the sixties and he wouldn't have taken them even if they were; so Jack's achievements in the counter culture, destroying the custom of deference, enflaming Paris and ending the Vietnam war are all the more remarkable; one cruelly straight, cruelly spotty Labour wonk wreaking all that cultural anarchy in his sports jacket and flannels; his fearsome rebelliousness, his disaffection with custom and tradition now symbolised by his black stockings, gilded robes and buckled shoes. The Summer of Love, Woodstock, Highway 61, Purple Haze and Grosvenor Square, all down to Spotty Jack.
The Labour Party is such a galaxy of phony worthless cunts - Bob Ainsworth on the front bench, can you believe that shit ? - that, should Nancy Brown eventually receive the secure psychiatric care that anyone outside this gang of jackals would insist upon and a vacancy occur, Spotty Jack is far and away the vilest, most dishonest, self-regarding and stratospherically over-promoted cunt among hundreds of others similarly although not quite so comprehensively qualified; Straw, outstandingly, is the very emblem of rottenness and filth dressed-up, simpering pompously in a double-breasted suit. The total annihilation of anything good and worthwhile and decent about the labour movement - and God knows there was much - will not be complete until this ugly, shifty, poisonous smirking cunt is Buggins' Turn prime minister, decaying, rotting before the nation's eyes. God save England.
Ken, 01:32... "is robin cook 4 votes from being pm? "
Considering the "fit for a banana republic" voting system that New Labour enacted, it's entirely possible that Robin Cook could be voted in, despite him being dead.
Maybe we could have seances to find out his policy decisions?
Isn't there a "bring back Bliar" bandwagon á la "bring back Maggie"?
This might help them promote Labour excellance [sic].
thick as thieves said...
10.19 AM,
you sound like a right spastic.
Indeed thick fuck. But I only sound one dearest, you though,fucking old slapper that you are, are most definately one.
The PLP will do as they are told by the Unions, who hold the purse strings and ALL the IOU's.
WOR & Stan, both on form today !
Apparently the rebellion has fizzled out. Frank Field has withdrawn his amnedmnet. What a surprise. Lame duck McBean limps on to cheat another day.
I think I'll be paying more tax. But I will not get tax credit, and I do not qualify for fuel allowance.
So I'll STILL be worse off.
Oh, by the way, Frank Field, I DO hope you read this. You have lost my respect. You are just like the rest of them.
I agree with Stan The Man - that superannuated acne'd student activist Strawman is the archetypal cunt's cunt.
Needs a good rubdown with the housebrick and relocating to the bottom of the nearest mineshaft.
No-one with any sense can deny the obvious fact that Straw's a cunt. That said, when McTwat has a mental breakdown that can't be hidden, Straw is the only member of this cabinet of spastics who could remotely be PM. Neither Milipede appears to be human, Balls is an ignorant piece of vomit, Swiss Des? I don't think so. Hutton? Looks like Himmler. Any of the splitarses? Clearly not. Who else but Black Jack is there? I tell you, the cunt did not invest in contact lenses for nothing (except in the sense that I expect he claimed for them on his expenses).
Oh! Please God NOoooooooooooo!
If you think Freedom of Speech and the right to protest are difficult now.........it will be like 'V for Vendetta' under a government lead by the man of straw.
Jack Straw
Jack "I fixed it for my kiddie fidler brother" Straw
Jack "We'll charge you if you make racist remarks in your owb home" Straw
Jack "Sex Pest" Straw
Do us a favour.
I first became aware of Jack Straw when he was President of the National Union of Students, even then a body known only for its belief in communism and free sex. As SH fears, Straw believes in freedom of speech for those who agree with him. Rather like Stalin, Mao, Polpot, and one or two other desirables (not).
I forget when he said it but I remember him saying it, 'The British are not worth saving as a race'
Old Jackie Boy is a One Worlder, Mass immigration is simply a Divide and ConqEur the Europeans tactice.
6 Million abortions to date, mass immigration, Primorola pushing for a Bill to sterilise British schoolgirls, Do join the Dot's People.
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