If Gordon Loses the Vote, Gordon Has To Go
As Cameron signals that he will probably line up his troops behind Frank Field's amendment could we be looking at a no confidence vote? Effectively yes. Gordon introduced the 10p rate, Gordon abolished the 10p rate, Gordon complicated the tax and benefits system with his endless tinkering at social engineering. This mess is 100% Brown stuff.
The paper pundits are intoning gravely. Jackie Ashley says Gordon could be gone this week, Kavanagh says kick Ken out next week and get rid of the unelected PM. If only...
Despite Alistair's grandstanding calls on the banks to buck the markets and drop their lending rates, even Northern Rock, controlled by the Treasury has upped lending rates. Meantime the socialist dreams of Gordon Brown the student are being realised with the back door nationalisation of the banks. Another £50 billion is to be pick-pocketed from the taxpayers to prop up banks. Guido does not know what the exact terms of the bail-out are, but in principle is opposed. Why are taxpayers expected to take risks which properly should be borne by shareholders?
Why should the banks listen to Gordon when his own government ministers don't listen? Many junior members of the government are expected to rebel on the 10p rate, 42 days and even ID cards. We have a shambles of a government by the shambolic, with support slipping away. Bring on the General Election...
The paper pundits are intoning gravely. Jackie Ashley says Gordon could be gone this week, Kavanagh says kick Ken out next week and get rid of the unelected PM. If only...
Despite Alistair's grandstanding calls on the banks to buck the markets and drop their lending rates, even Northern Rock, controlled by the Treasury has upped lending rates. Meantime the socialist dreams of Gordon Brown the student are being realised with the back door nationalisation of the banks. Another £50 billion is to be pick-pocketed from the taxpayers to prop up banks. Guido does not know what the exact terms of the bail-out are, but in principle is opposed. Why are taxpayers expected to take risks which properly should be borne by shareholders?Why should the banks listen to Gordon when his own government ministers don't listen? Many junior members of the government are expected to rebel on the 10p rate, 42 days and even ID cards. We have a shambles of a government by the shambolic, with support slipping away. Bring on the General Election...
74 comments:
Yea like turkeys voting for an early Christmas.
These NuLabor piggies are going to keep their snouts in the trough as long as they can.
So they are going to be like Cocktail Sausage, and just put their fingers down their throats as they continue to feed.
Nope, we've got another couple years of the bastards.
Brown thinks that by handing over 50 billion of OUR money to the banks that it will stave off economic disaster?!?! What a twat- if anything handing over 150 billion or so to the profit making banking sector will fill no-one with any confidence whatsoever- unless you're a twat. RBOS creating more 'shares' to try and give themselves a cash injection...After we were told it was one of the more successful banking organisations in the country! Yep, i'm not overly positive about the future economic climate!
Yes Gordon has to go, no doubt about that.
But I just despair at Cameron. He was sat on the BBC news sofa this morning talking about refunding those Gordon has robbed, with Tax credits. Can't the dipstick realise this is not the Conservative way, this is a highly expensive and intrusive Socialist way? If the low paid didn't pay the tax in the first place, they would not have to try and claim it back in the second place and an Army of paper shifters would not be needed to make it all happen.
It's time you took a reality check Dave and became a Conservative.
Wonder if these two stories on Prezza could be related?
The Daily Mirror's political editor Bob Roberts (who doesn't know Prezza very well) produces a front page "Exclusive" that "Bulimic John Prescott used to gorge on Big Macs after attending lavish five-course state banquets.
Over at the Independent, deputy political editor Colin Brown (who knows Prescott very well and wrote his biography) reveals "After an official buffet, he'd have a snack at McDonalds".
hmmmm
Surely making the 10p vote into a no-confidence motion is exactly what Brown will want, because it will force rebels to think again. It's John Major's back-me-or-sack-me strategy all over again.
Surely no coincidence that ALL Labour's current woes originate from the treasury?
But why are we hearing this debate now? Why wasn't it dealt with a year ago? Isn't it the job of MPs to scrutinise legislation, rather than to say 'Ooops, look what we just slept through'?
I gave the new labour war and tax party six months and they are right on schedule.
oil refinery update....
hutton begged the union to enter into mediation with the owners. they told him to fuck off and stick his mediation up his arse.
good one!
and is it just me but doesn't hutton look like a fucking serial killer with those big bulging eyes?
creepy looking cunt.
Don’t think it’s 100% Browns stuff, Ed Balls deserves some credit. Amazing how Brown has anointed Balls as next leader. In the old days the public used to elect their leaders. Anyway they don’t give a shit about people all they want is power and perks.
Blue eyes: Brown may think that way. I hope so. However, MPs putting their name to doubling tax on poor people days before local elections is not particularly smart.
If Gordon Loses the Vote, Gordon Has To Go
Gordon has to go regardless of the vote. I'm sick of this bad weather and it all started when Gordon took over. Please get rid of Gordon so we can have some sunshine and hot weather for a change.
I wouldn't count on it. Anybody who can march and wave placards in their constituency against PO closures, but vote for it in Parliament, isn't going to give two fucks unless their name is specifically mentioned.
They'll all claim they voted against it, but won't, and hope the voters don't check how they voted.
The banks should have to have rights issues to get the state funding.
The taxpayer should get a SHIT load of shares in exchange for this funding.
Maybe each citizen could then be paid out of this fund.
Your "Seen elsewhere" reference to Charles Clarke's letter to the Times about Balls is a long term exocet.It will be quoted endlessly against Balls when he makes his move on the leadership.Ferrets in a sack.
I hope they replace Brown with Ed Balls, the LibDems would beat them at the polls in that scenario.
Just imagine the sight of Porky Balls and Matchstick Cooper stood outside number 10. Why isn't she called Mrs. Balls?
The labour rebels will not follow through on this. They know, in their heart of hearts, that G Brown has totally buggered the economy and traduced the tax and benefit system. They know that he is a twat - even if in private he pushes all the right Socialist buttons. They also know that this is a resigning issue and the result of that will be the melt down of their government. And like the fools all politicians are they will seek to stay in power right until the last possible moment.
To get around this 'problem' Brown Darling will cook up some stupid tax credit payment 'targeted' at those they have robbed. This will keep the party wolves off their backs whilst they continue to push their agenda and wait in vain for the turnround in the economy that will save them.
However their is an opportunity here for the opposition. Can they bring the agrument back to a less statist model? I think Cameron might, but he is so afraid of scaring the horses he dare not articulate it. Personally I believe this is wrong and shows a lck of philosophy and moral courage. In the meantime the libdems are making the right noises but will never be able to form a government.
Clearly though, once the 10% tax rate rate argument is 'won' by the rebels and the opposition it blows a complete hole in all of Browns policies. It makes everything he has done on tax and spend untenable and the argument can then easily shift to destroying his reputation.
It is now shown to be a fact that nuliebourism / Socialism or whatever passes for a coherent philosophy amongst these clowns actually impoverishes everyone - except the rich and the politicians and their apparatchiks.
Cameron is Common Purpose. What do you expect?
"If you can't be persuaded by our reasoned arguments we'll take it from you by force" - the mantra of socialists since they were invented, has been refined by NuLab - "we have no reasoned arguments, so let's have it from you anyway".
Labour MPs have a brief window of opportunity coming up now to dump their looser of a leader and still possibly win the next election.
Let's hope thay don't do what is really needed to be done. This way they, the Turkeys, will be voting for the next Christmas-but-one to be a bumper one.
Surely Gordon will just order Darling to produce some sort of 10p fudge?
They said the wouldn't budge over the Northern Rock, The UK banking sector, non Doms and so on. So what is to stop them turning on a 10 pence piece?
Blogger Blue Eyes said...
Surely making the 10p vote into a no-confidence motion is exactly what Brown will want, because it will force rebels to think again. It's John Major's back-me-or-sack-me strategy all over again.
too true. Blair was their Thatcher, and Brown is their Major.
The parallels are really quite frightening, even the timelines are similar. However, think what would have happened if the Tories had lost the '92, rather than '97, election. Labour would have reaped the economic whirlwind, and the Tories could have got back in in '97 on a 'you can't trust that lot to run an economy' ticket. Which should be food for thought for any political strategists out there.
On a previous occasion when the banks got themselves into trouble a "lifeboat" was created which provided funding to tide them over. Funds borrowed from the "lifeboat" attracted higher than normal market rates and it is to be hoped the new "arrangement" being cobbled together by "Brown/Darling" will have similar features. Otherwise all the taxpayer is doing is taking the risks and downsides with no upsides in return, leaving all the benefits to accrue to the benefits of the shareholders. That's no way to discourage them from embarking upon similar ventures in the future.
if the bank of england attaches a sensible coupon to the £50 billion - say 150 bps over base - the plan seems a sensible way of bringing in some cash
Blue Eyes said...
Surely making the 10p vote into a no-confidence motion is exactly what Brown will want, because it will force rebels to think again.
Blue Eyes is right. As someone who cannot wait to get off the opposition BB's and onto Government BackBenches to do some real snouting and Prescott style troughing this 'pushing' will only close ranks. Far better to let it fester unresolved.. A reminder each time a pay packet is opened hat Labour isn't [for the ]working.
Jolly good slogan that..must tell Osbourne.
To show just how thick this government is, they are now looking at bunging £50 billion of taxpayers money into the banks, in exchange for a load of rubbish mortgage paper, that no-one else will buy.
These are the same banks that have used the same derivative products that are now causeing all the problems, to pay themselves all those massive bonus', in the recent past. They stripped out future "potential" profits, as far forward as 10 yrs, or more, from those derivatives and paid it to themselves as bonus', leaving all the risk still out there, but without the potential profit cushion.
Now some of that paper dross is implodeing, they come bleating to the government/taxpayer, begging for help, along with the implied threat, that if nothing is done the whole system may come down.
While the danger is real to the system and thus government help is probably needed, so far the banks and all those insanely greedy types who run them are escapeing free. The price of any bailout should be wholesale fireings from the very top down, along with life bans from working in financial services and no compensation, indeed past earnings should be re-claimed, as much of it was secured against future profits, that will now never be seen....instead we have vast amounts of taxpayer liability, being handed over for free, to the very people who caused all the problems in the first place, so inept are our so called leaders and that goes for all the opposition parties as well.
I blogged over and over again last year that an election held in 2007 or even 2008 was one to lose. If Labour are to be properly held to account for their mismanagement of our economy then they must be in power when the economic cyclone really hits, and it will. The Conservatives should concentrate on keeping Gordon Brown in Number 10 until the last possible moment, that way Labour will be utterly destroyed at the election.
I would dearly love Brown to make this a confidence vote and threaten an election if he lost but people and "political pundits" need to calm down
Gordon's not going to be forced out. The only way the Labour Party will get rid of him is when he loses the election
The vote on Frank Field's Amendment is only a confidence vote if the government choose to make it so. If they don't Brown and Darling can say they have listened to the views expressed and will bring forward an amendment to the Finance Bill to alleviate those 5.3 million affected( this will cost approx £700Million which against the Northern Rock bail out is pretty small stuff)Admittedly a "loss of face" but not a terminal one for Brown
Brown has nothing to lose if the whips do tell him that the government will lose the vote by a significant majority as he could then threaten the "nucleur option" and tell his "rebels" that if they don't fall in line he will make it a vote of confidence issue in his administration and that if he loses the vote he will seek an immediate dissolution. He's not the sort of guy to go gracefully to the backbenches and will ensure that if he has to he takes both his party and those "rebels" on slim majorities with him. Faced with that scenario there should be enough of the "sheep" on his backbenches to back down and accept the assurances given by Darling that something will be done in the next budget for those affected.
I'm afraid that the Labour Party made an irreversible decision when they allowed Brown to become leader without a contest and to be honest who would actually be willing to replace him at the moment given the better than certain odds that Labour will lose the next election ?
Both David Miliband and Ed Balls will want to placed to take over AFTER Brown has lost and not be tainted with failure by being the leader that lost the election for Labour
For better or worse Brown's in place until 2010 and all this talk of Brown being forced out is a nonsense and a pure fantasy gotten up by a febrile press and media
I've just received my occupational pension rise - a reasonable 4.6 %. However my tax bill has risen by 11.9%. Of the £51 rise per month, Gordon has taken £15 ie 30%. What a first class cunt he is.
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Can't fault this Comment by Simon Carr over at the Independent.
Another failed political trick
Just like Gordon's Tax trick, it all went wrong when he tried to stuff Tony's best mate George.
Loss of 10% tax rate? - Let them eat cake!
Come on its only a few hundred quid of their salaries, they can just claim a bit more on their expenses to cover it.
And mortgage problems? Come on, they just need to sort out their secondary homes alowance - whats wrong with these people why can't they live in the real world like MP's do?
wouldnt it be wonderful to get rid of Red Ken and Gordon at the same time, that would be major party time.
All the British banks are BUST. Did you see Moulton on channel 4 Despatches a couple of weeks ago? At the time RBOS claimed to have £950 million of sub prime debts and this weekend this was slightly (!!) increased to £ 9 BILLION. Moulton who is a leading venture capitalist suggested that the real figure for RBOS is £14 BILLION. So there goes another over rated Scots twat outfit.
So that's Nat West fucked, the Halifax fucked, Coutts fucked, Drummonds fucked, Citizens Bank (USA) fucked...need one go on?
Remember black Wednesday when that grubby shit Soros forced a run on the pound? Two days later on the Friday, the French president called all the heads of banks in Paris for a meeting on Saturday. They were clearly told that anyone selling francs on the following Monday would have their licence withdrawn and could forget banking in France. That's decision making and it made the banks crap themselves.
so, hoon's line is basically 'don't be disloyal to the man who is ripping off the poor.'
hoon, you are a complete fucking cunt.
you are definitely on the list and you are most definitely going to hell, you fucking satanist.
I will personally oversee your dispatchment you cunt.
it will be my pleasure. I won't even mind washing the wall down after you have been dealt with.
you are scum.
The credit risk behind the latest £50bn swap arrangement stays entirely with the banks.
To suggest otherwise tends to discredit the remainder of your fine article.
When you attack the spin culture, as you do admirably, you must be whiter than white yourself if you aim to be truly effective.
I have been fortunate enough to live professionally off the stockmarket for the past 20 years.
However, what I have not been able to understand is why bankers and brokers get good bonuses on top of their salaries when they make a profit, but when there is a loss there is no pay back of previous bonuses ie refund of previous year's bonus. Why do they need to have a bonus on top of their very well paid jobs?
That is not entirely true. In the event of massive mortgage default rates the paper would bankrupt the banks. The taxpayer would then be left out of pocket. Essentially the credit risk will be taken by the banks only of they can afford it - if they can't...
Guido - are they going to accept cred card receivables as collateral? if so its a disaster waiting to happen
Thicker with each posting:
'I will personally oversee your dispatchment you cunt.
it will be my pleasure. I won't even mind washing the wall down after you have been dealt with.
you are scum.'
Have the men in white coats turned up yet? TAT twat is on the edge!
An intellectually weak response akin to asking what would happen if there is nuclear war. If the banking system does actually go bankrupt then the government would have to act in any case otherwise the whole economy would collapse. There would be a cost to the taxpayer but it would minimal compared to the damage that would result to everyone otherwise.
That was surely not the point behind your suggestion of a taxpayer bailout being implicit in the current arrangement.
It is a balancing act that David Cameron must perform. He must swing behind Frank Field at the most opportune moment. The easiest stick for the whips to use is "the Tories are behind this".
As an afterthought I have a suggestion as to how public power can be mobilised, to display our displeasure in the handling (is there any?!?) of the economy, banks not passing on interest rate cuts, rises in fuel costs, council tax increases, utility bill increases etc.
I call it a cash strike.
Organisations work on cash flow, usually on a monthly or 30 day cycle. They need to pay their bills, staff and overheads and relaim the money from customers as close to that cycle as is possible. Otherwise they pay an extra 10% or more on what they have to borrow until they get the cash in.
If that was disrupted on a national basis for one month, it would send a clear message out! The way to do it is an organised campaign. A mass default on mortgage payment, council tax, utility bills(etc) for one month. if one person does it, they are an inconvenience and will be sent a chasing letter. If fifty thousand or one hundred thousand people do it, then they will cause enormous difficulties with impunity - who wants to issue that many chasing letters or court summonses?!?
I fail to see why Northern Rock was not taken back to whence it came and turned back into a mutual, all this privatisation will end in tears....
Dave Thing marshaling his troops. Fuck me. D Day all over again. Useless fucking airheads. There's Hague the clown, I have ay joke to tell, Mr Deputy Speaker. I yam ay very good after-dinner speaker, Mr Deputy Speaker and so I will clearly be ay very good foreign secretary, if not ay very good prime minister in due course once my right honourable friend, the member for bicycles, is exposed for the public school dimwit which he most assuredly is, Mr Deputy Speaker, a ha ha ha, thank you, too kind, too kind.
There's the Tories' Hatterjee, that cadaverous, spit-spraying, know-it-all, motormouth misfit and Murdoch nutter, Michael Gove; that fucking bloke, the one with his head seam-welded up his arse, wotsisname, George something, sounds like a prefect and that old, granny shoe fetish bint, Teresa Look At My Boots, Not My Face May, runner-up in the Margaret Beckett, Handsome Is As Handsome Does Face Like A Horse Handicap. What a gang of freaks. This isn't an opposition, this is more of the same. These people applauded Blair; these people, all fabulously clever, were "misled" by by the dipso, Alistair Closet-Campbell, every last one of these opposition members has, time after time, acknowledged Brown's superior, prudent handling of the economy, as the country, overfed impossible amounts of debt, went down the toilet. What the fuck, pray, does vain, empty-headed Dave Thing know about anything, outside his own, cozening, prating cabal of braying, arrogant, thieving, brothel-creeping layabouts. Man's a cunt. Good for fuck all. Never done a days work in his worthless life. If Dave's the answer the question needs urgent re-framing.
Ordinary people, plumbers, even, have been lamenting Nancy Brown's dangerous unsuitability - for anything really - for a long, long time; now that the commentariat and the twitterati have belatedly discovered their own reasons for his departure - after ten years cheerleading for he and his partner in crime, Blair, while they fucked the entire country up the arse - are we supposed to rejoice, as though Trevor Kavanagh was anything other than a shameless cheap Murdoch whore, shooting his master's bullet's, sucking his master's cock. Is Kneepads White any less a loathsome liberal-fascist, Toilets Maguire not a scabby, hypocritical Geordie punk and is la Toynbee not a twittering champagne socialist slag, shitting on the faces of the poor from the same elevated, gold-plated latrine benches as her equally venal chums in The Government, The Arts, The Media and wherever else idle useless bloodsucking parasites congregate to barrack us, bully us, lie to us and steal from us. Take our money and give it to thieving bankers who should properly be in jail and call it reform, modernisation, stability; traduce the poor and flatter and bribe the obnoxious rich, Branson and the dwarf Ecclestone, flog-off the legislature, huge colonies of Russian gangsters made ruinously welcome, nurses and firemen unable to find places to live. What a bunch of cunts is Guido's political media nexus.
There are countless exemplars, parables, metaphors for the last decade's Blair-Brown-Mandelson gay project. Cruelty television is just one; gay barrowboy, Sugar, shouting at people, in his cufflinks; the moronic, hysterical gay cook, Ramsey, swearing at people; a pair of old slapper speedfreaks from the Trannygraph ridiculing people's clothes; Jeremy Klaxon and his little prick, Hammond - of the blessed and miraculous recovery - ridiculing people's cars, their own fabulous stables of vehicles given as bribes from the motor industry; Big Brother, a festival of cruelty and humiliation, attracting even such celebrity caring people as Pussy Galloway, MP and Professor of Orgasm Studies, Granny Greer and as though our homes, clothes, lives, cars, relationships and meals were insufficiently criticised there is, now, a mad ginger jock nutritionist, poring over and criticising the state of people's shit. The mad bitch, poking and sniffing it, stops short of eating it but an opportunity beckons, there, for someone seeking a career opportunity, a Liberal Democrat sort of thing. And if we tire of self-improvement there is light entertainment, offered at fabulous cost to us, from impudent cocksuckers like Ross and Norton, their taxpayer-funded time valued at fifty thousand of our pounds per hour. Not much fuss about the ten pee rate at Broadcasting House. No tears spilled by whichever fuckwit is now in charge of what they call culture; it's the man who wasn't there, isn't it, Purnell. The Dimblebys, Paxman, Humphries, Toilets McNaughtie, all with their bursting portfolios of programmes, newspaper columns and book deals have all lionised the steady hand at the economic tiller of The Man With No Nails.
Lectured to, harangued, insulted, ridiculed, overcharged and short-changed, the TV audience and the contempt in which it is obviously held by Grade and Thompson and the like is treated exactly the same as is the electorate by the elected. You can't turn around these days without some Oxbridge bastard shitting in your face.
All the politicians and all the mainstream media, innured by greed and undeserved wealth to its catastrophic consequences, have conspired with and colluded in the gay project, the famous Third Way. What's happening now is games within games, score-settling by the nasty little prick Field and others, the insipid Meacher and the like, manouevering; more worthless pledges of rebellion from flouncy, grandstanding cunt, Bob-Marshall-Andrews QC, MP, bridling facetiously, showily, on behalf of his poor constituents, whom he wouldn't touch with an ermine-wrapped bargepole; quite enough to put a chap off his claret.
Mr Anonymous at 11.40 probably has the right of it. Its all bollocks, backbench Labour rebellions are all neutered at the eleventh hour, allowing the feeble-minded to continue in their delusion that Labour is, in its heart, a party of the workers and not a poisonous, greedy free-for-all run for its leaders and their bent acolytes at the top of the unions and, even if he's wrong, the substitution of a gang of Tory thieves or some ghastly coalition which includes preposterous nobodies like Clegg won't save the national bacon; they, themselves Brownite, Euro-conspiring, New World Order Merchants are all of the same tide of filth.
There is only one remedy and applied metaphorically or even literally it is Come Out, Gordon - and the rest of you, all of you, Up Against The Wall Motherfuckers.
("I won't have succeeded until the whole country loves this guy as much as I do." Tony Blair, May 1997, speaking of his pretty, straightguy love for Mr Peter Mandelson)
Mr. Cameron, please, please please don't mince your words about this 10p tax fiasco.
Raise the allawance to £10,000, or even £15,000 AND SPELL OUT HOW THE TAXPAYER CAN SAVE MONEY BY NOT RUNNING THIS BLOATED, INEFFICIENT BUREAUCRACY!
People are fed up with tax, so tell them you are going to cut taxes. Stop being intimidated by the labour stooges constantly going on about unfunded cuts - cut away! This mob lose things, their checks and balances are worse than useless, their bureacracy is dire, so let's cut Government spending!
With the Government buying parcels of mortgages from banks and building societies, isn't this just another step down the sub prime ladder. Gordon and Alistair could have cut out the middlemen and bought them all when they were parcelled up and sold on earlier.
to be honest, i would vote Labour if they had Frank Field as leader.
the man has a clarity and sense of what is right for the country that goes beyond mere ideology.
actually, i couldnt care less about the party of Frank Field... i just want Frank Field as PM, period.
Are the government saying that NO UK bank will be allowed to fail and will not face financial responsibility for its own decisions?
At "least" fifty billion of taxpayer money at the click of a finger. Where do they keep getting this money from, I thought Darling had no room to manoeuvre and that is why he had to take 700 million pounds from the lowest paid of the country?
stanislav blogged for posterity over here
I wonder how much body armour or decent ammo the chaps and chapesses in Iraqistan could have had for 50bn quid?
They may have nationalised a bank but our hospitals and schools are still PFI and owned by the banks for us to lease....even the Treasury is in a leased building from HSBC Jersey
Ultimately does this mean that this useless excuse for a government has got its hands on a lot of mortgages and so has a lot of the electorate by the balls?
Country's fucked!
What a magnificent post by Stanislav. Why isn't HE Prime Minister??
Does anyone know whether either Frank Field or Kate Hoey are at all interested in jumping ship and going Tory?
I suppose it's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't issues, as they are as useful within the Labour Party as they are on the other side.
Stanislav, come out and let's vote for you.
"Why should the banks listen to Gordon when his own government ministers don't listen?
The banks are only interested in waht Snottie McTwat has to say so long as he's daft enough to give them free money. Trouble is there won't be so much left for all the asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, benefit fraudsters, dishonourable members, etc., etc.
As the blessed St Margaret once remarked, "They're frit".
Stanislav's post should be compulsory reading for every 14 years and over schoolchild instead of the garbage they are fed by their useless teachers.They know all the 4 letter words anyway.
Anticitizoneone 10.42
If call me Dave is Common Purpose then what is the Tory party for?
To give us a chance to vote in our own nemesis?
Welcome to the new feudalism of the 21st century with no Magna Carta to protect us.
It's a shame that there is no-one in opposition with the same straighforward politics as Stanislav.
He's right, of course, they're all lying, scheming arseholes. Politicians of all the mainstream parties are power-hungry cunts.
As the man says "Up against the wall, motherfuckers".
I'd prefer to see them guillotined.
Many have remarked upon how NuLab could have made noises about the 10p tax hit on the lowest rung of earners when it was announced long long ago. Yes, it's a clear, direct, material chunk of flesh being taken...but contrast the belated debate with the ongoing murmur (barely more even now) that the country has for so long been thrown open to any bastard brazen enough to jabber in whatever one of 80 million fucking languages they speak on any single bendy-bus that their presence here is more than nine tenths of the law on their entitlement to dispossess the bottom rung just for starters. No fucking meeting between PLP and Gordon needed over that, I see.
Brown thinks that banks are "too big to fail". He is well used to bailing out banks who have acted recklessly. It has been claimed that Brown's 1999 sell-off of a large chunk of Britain's gold reserves was done to prevent Goldman Sachs from going belly-up. They had effectively gambled on the price of gold falling, but in reality it rose and carried on rising.
The funny thing about this 10p rate is that Brown put this into the plans to rake back £7bn AFTER he had won the General Election and the complaints would be long forgotten. He knew what he was doing - his stooge was always picking up the tab for this, except he got tagged too when he bottled it. Nice.
Hmmm does anybody else see any problem whatsoever in waving £50 billion in government paper at the trader monkeys in return for some dodgy mortgages and overdue Visa bills?
Is there anything to stop them selling their shiny new £50 billion cow to the smiling men with the magic bean futures and leaving us all back at square one again?
They are a bunch of cheeky, greedy ruthless bastards and if they can, they will.
Sounds like the Labour rebels are by and large going to back down, based on Gordon's promises of "jam tomorrow".
What a bunch of spineless subservient yes-men the Labour party has become. Just about the only person worthy of leading that once great party is Frank Field. There are a scattering of other well-meaning individuals here and there in the PLP but it's mostly "So what" jobsworths who couldn't give a stuff about double-figure inflation rates and the excessive tax burden for which they are to blame. As long as the worthless "official" inflation rate is 2.5% everything must be fine and dandy.
People cannot afford Labour's taxes. Tax, inflation, excessive fuel prices and the rest are crippling us. Darling even had the nerve to increase taxes on booze in the budget - that hits the ordinary man in the street far more than the rich. What are they playing at? We have no money left, just leave us alone. 100,000 of us are going bust every year FFS.
They don't care. They are going to give us all a kicking, and leave us all penniless and bleeding in the gutter. The same gutter from which many of them obviously emerged.
They have to go. It doesn't matter who we vote for, as long as it's the party most likely to displace Labour. Let's turn around and kick back. Let us kick 'em all the way to the next general election and beyond.
We can all look forward to Stanislav's kingdom: the quiet, green, pleasant land that is the interior of Broadmoor. But the charm is short-lived.
Brown will hang on. The rebellion will peter out.
Brown will stagger on, lurching from new crisis to new crisis, like some drunken uncle impersonating Frankenstein's Monster at a family party.
But as he is the rich, drunken uncle, everyone in the Labour Family will painfully look the other way. But each member of the family are secretly hoping he will fall down the cellar steps...
Cadaverous Frankie Field positively eczematizes - does he not? - to finally play the part into which his washed-out features have been transmogrifying for most of his Parliamentary career. The Undertaker.
And the headline that will end it all?
INCAPABILITY BROWN.
Remember, as they say: you read it here first.
If Brown claims to be in control of his government at any point, Cameron should start calling on Brown to hold a general election.
The look on Brown's face would be priceless.
12.54 retard,
ah, the cliched new labour claim that someone who opposes them is mentally ill. unfortunately for you your posts expose you as the cretin.
my health is not in question but yours is obviously deteriorating exponentially.
note to twat's doctor: increase twat's medication and consider frontal lobotamy.
what a cunt!
Why would GB have to go if he looses the vote?
He'll do what any incompetent or corrupt politician would when they get caught fiddling or ferking something up! He will announce to the public that he will stand down at the next election but only if he really has too.
Look out he might be looking round to start a more popular war just like magi did when she was so unpopular at the poles!
Any normal person would be fired for lying, cheating or generally ferking something up!
But politicians are above the law and all sensible options and reason!
Tom Fullery
Thick Fuck said:
Retard, Spastic, blah blah blah! You boring old tat twat. Get something new to say you boring old tart, fuck me you are a bleeding bigger bore than Gary Elsby, that other deluded cunt.
is that an order?
No tat shat, 'tis not my blog to order anyone or anything. Who do you think I am? You! It is merely a request you sodden old sap, to piss off and shut up. If you like coming on here being abused then fine, carry on you fucking idiot! Who the fuck are you with your lists and calling everyone spastic you deeply offensive piece of shit! Come on cunt, your on my list now!
request denied, spastic.
FFS, this is ridiculous. NURSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE. TAT shat has escaped again. Please can you make sure she is strapped in her chair tightly and the door is double locked. Thank you.
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