Unfunded Tax Cuts v Unfunded Spending Commitments
Yvette Cooper is spinning to all and sundry that the Tories have made £10 billion in unfunded tax reduction promises without "balancing" tax increases. She is briefing that reducing corporation tax to 27% will reduce taxes by £1.75 billion, £3.2 billion will stay in people's pockets after the introduction of a transferable tax allowance, £3 billion will not be taxed from those getting working tax credit, £2 billion from the abolition of IHT for all but millionaires and £400 million lost to the Treasury and kept by first-time buyers after raising the stamp duty threshold.
Never mind that reducing corporation tax to 27% will still leave the rate 15% above high growth Ireland's rate and that the extra billions in people's pockets will be spent in the economy productively and have positive dynamic effects. Osborne has not balanced his budget plans is her central charge.
Guido wants to know about the Labour government's unfunded spending commitments:
These are the figures from the ONS, in 2003 Gordon made unfunded spending commitments of £36 billion, in 2004 £41 billion, in 2005 £38 billion, in 2006 £34 billion. This was during a time of strong economic performance when Gordon should have been paying down the national debt with budget surpluses. His prolific spending meant that he failed to balance the budget.Last year he smashed the golden rule with £110 billion to be added to the PSBR after the nationalisation of Northern Rock plus the usual annual unfunded overspend of some £40 billion. To which we can add the off balance sheet fiddles like £725 billion of public sector pensions unfunded, not forgetting the £110 billion in payments due to companies in the next three decades under PFI and £18 billion of debt held by Network Rail and the figure is nearer £1.4 trillion, which is well over 100% of GDP. So the amount of unfunded spending commitments has now reached £1.4 trillion. Yvette Cooper is accusing George Osborne of proposing unfunded tax reductions which are small change in comparison.
79 comments:
exactly correct. this government has wasted billions it doesnt have and the bill will cripple the country for decades.
they couldnt run a bath
Every time there's a Gvnt announcement Pravda never questions how it will be paid for. Everytime the Tories announce anything Al Beeb never fails to question their spending plans in minute detail.
Given they are two cheeks of the same arse doesn't it beg the question why the Beeb even fucking bothers.
They're all venal, treasonous cunts.
Thatcher much loved by Scots!
http://www.siol-nan-gaidheal.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5203
PSBR? Them nuclear reactors never worked well and should never have been built, if you ask me.
We have a sub-prime government and by these figures we are now a sub-prime country (ie. bankrupt).
If companies traded like this they would be forced to shut up shop - it's illegal.
SHOUT IT LOUD - GET THEM OUT.
Well done Guido. This tale of profligacy needs more exposure. "Brown failed to prepare for bad times during the good times" is something that people can easily grasp, and will hurt Labour.
yvette,
never mind this 10 billion you are wittering on about. your party took 582 billion last year in tax revenue. despite those excellent takings gordon brown had to borrow another 38 billion on top of that, with no discernible increase in the quality of services labour provides.
what the fuck are you cunts doing with all that money, burning it? new labour's wasteful fiscal spending has forced the country into bankruptcy.
but ofcourse labour does have lots of previous on fiscally fucking it up. they just don't get it,
it's the economy you spastics!
note to jack straw:found the money to build those titan prisons you were spinning jack? thought not you fucking cretin. you haven't even got the planning permission yet you useless wanker!
new labour=full of shit.
I don't understand why the media in general doesn't report on the governments' accounting. There's a fresh story here that could run and run. A lot more interesting than little pieces about Mrs Smith's cat stuck up a tree.
The BBC has a duty to inform and educate after all, but has failed to tell this story.
Sorry to be boring but keep it up with the news on the economy and public (and private)finances. It is THE Achilles Heel that even the most stupid muppet will, eventually, understand. It'll hit them in the pocket, lose'em their job and make them homeless.
It will mean no ZaNu party in charge for a generation+. Oh joy!!
The BBC and Labour, two orifices on the same bloated, corrupt body politic.
Sadly shit comes out of both aforesaid orifices.
Well said. But then few are listening because all this data washes over most people's heads like further mathematics on a Friday afternoon in mid June, unfortunately.
Don't forget all the tax rises that will come into effect this April that were announced last year.
Where is all this money going? PFI perks??
I wonder if Mrs Balls arithmetical prowess was developed during the production of Mr & Mrs Balls MP's expenses claims. The word creative springs to mind... I don't know why!
Guido
This posting should be the lead story in all tomorrow`s papers with strong follow up on Monday
I await with interest Peston and Evans comments-if made-on the Brown Broadcasting Company (BBC)
JH
None of this will make any impact until mortgages, repossessions, income tax and council tax go up. As they will. Very soon. When that happens Yvette Cooper can talk to the trees for all the difference it will make.
10 years of Labour and the EUSSR fascist police state.
So you think you and your children live in a free country? please watch this short video, you will be suprised just how you rights have been eroded by the fascist state and EUSSR since Labour came to power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XeV4cfgTcI&eurl=http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/
What about the 10% tax rate being abolished by snotty how many poor people will suffer?.
Spin that Mrs bollox!!
£835 billion of unfunded public sector pension fund liability according to the IEA - unfunded and unreported of course
It was only when the Brown's pension theft was documented on TV last year that it entered the Public imagination.Apart from a biased BBC we have the grim prospect of a leftist government stealing our freedom.
- You can now see 'Taking Liberties' on Youtube. -
Stealing our money and our freedom.I object but what can I do about it?
Doubtless the Cooper woman's figures will be scrupulously traceable to the governments own figures for income and expenditure. I'm sure an FOI request would yield the envelope on the back of which are her calculations.
One important thing to remember in all this is the Conservative commitment to abandon ID cards. The government claims these will cost £5billion, but there are good, sound and accountable reasons to believe that the true figure is more than £15billion. Thus there is at least £10billion available in the Conservative expenditure plans, either for new expenditure or for tax reduction, which the government chooses, dishonestly, to ignore.
I think we can safely ignore Cooper's desperate blatherings. They are based on the usual Labour maxim: guff in = guff out.
Anyone who believes anything any Politician says is naive and stoopid.
Anyonme who believes NuLabour on anything to do with Budgets must recall what the Chancellor said on gaining power: He would be prudent and balance budgets over the economic cycle. And look where we are now.
Ms Cooper can say what she likes. It's all spin. The only people who believe her are people who want to believe her and the brain dead.
Surely there are more credible people than Yvette No-Tits that Liebore could wheel out to criticise Opposition spending plans - this is a woman(?) who in a Labourgraph interview a few weeks ago didn't even know the cost of milk (apparently you can get four litres for 99p...). Then again, on second thoughts, I can't think of anybody. I can hear the sound of a barrel being scraped...
Yvette Cooper MUST know what she is talking about. As a testement to her fiscal wherewithall recall her desisive and effective handing in the Commons concerning the full and candid assessment of the Granite question. She is a financial guru whom I have every faith in and she can suck my cock anyday.
As for the debt @ 2006/7 of 574.4 billions we could ask every resident of the UK to simply donate a one off payment of hundred million each and Bob's your uncle we are back in the black. Hardly rocket science.
One can understand the reluctance of our glorious BBC to advertise this perilous state. They are pushing the "economy will weather the turbulent choppy seas" line.
I will leave the question of the One point Four Trillion to another commenter to handle.
IF, and it IS a big if, the shit does hit the fan I fully expect them to kill off Maggie. Imagine the months of press coverage and the acres of long grass that would provide.
Admittedly unlike the hapless Andy Burnham who had no economic qualifications at all, Yvette has a degree in PPE and an MSc from the LSE. But she has spent all her life in spin, never done a real job, and her main "qualification" for this job is that she is Mrs Ed Balls. When Darling is sacked and replaced by Ed what will happen then?
Darling was Chief Sec from 15 months - will he last much longer as Chancellor?
Yvette Cooper: BA Oxon, Balliol Coll, in PPE; MSc LSE, in Economics.
Vince Cable: BA Cantab, Fitzwilliam Coll, in Nat Sci and Economics; PhD Glasgow Univ, in Economics.
Now, of these two who has got the better grasp of Economics?
Answer by a good half-mile is Vince!
Conclusion? Why, they know how to pass the port in Oxford, whilst they know what they are doing in Cambridge.
Sorry Guido you are totally wrong, and have a poor grasp of economics
If you make tax cuts of £10bn, ie cut PAYE Tax to lets say 17p in the pound. Thats 10 bn in Yr one 20bn by year two, and in the life time of a parliament it will cost 50bn.
Camerons lurch to the right is now complete..Good luck
12:38 Brown's Drowning Frown
Apart from a biased BBC we have the grim prospect of a leftist government stealing our freedom.
. . . . .I object but what can I do about it?
At present the combination of the corrupt BBC news department and NuLab CANNOT be beaten. This has been so for 15 + years.
If anyone is interested in changing this situation, do not rely on the next election, but force a complete reform of the way the BBC news department operates or close them down and allow many private news companies to use the digital broadcasting infrastructure to provide simultaneous news programmes so we can CHOOSE using an on-screen menu - and so that no one can have such monopoly power ever again..
This is Labour’s weak spot. This is the way you get rid of Labour. Reform the TV news programmes.
@ 2:41 PM
Creep off back to Labour, you troll.
Nothing you ever say is true. You breathe dishonesty and malignancy with every breath.
You once may have had our trust - but no more.
Cameron "lurching to the right" Doh!! Have any idea how such vapidities and gormless smears are seen by us? They demonstrate that nothing said by you or your friends can be trusted. It shouts that you cannot be trusted on this or anything else. What complete slime you and and your government are.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there supposed to be some sort of budget happening next week?
I do hope those charming and fragrant people at CCHQ are working flat out to expose Brown's catastrophic financial mismanagement of the UK economy since he came to power in 1997.
To date it seems we can only rely on Guido to do the hard work.
When are we going to obtain that list of Labour MP's who had family on the payroll..I don't see the Beeboids pressing for it much
Maybe one of the city chaps can explain what happens to gordons finances when the economy slips into recession later this year? the treasury assumptions are for 3%growth in 2008/2009 which is utter fantasy. when the economy follows the US into recession, migrant workers start leaving due to no jobs and tax receipts collapse we are in real trouble.
@ 2:41 PM
Yes, it's right that if you cut taxes by a £10bn then it will be £20bn in Year 2 etc.
BUT...
If you sack £10bn of useless twats like you who waste your day surfing the net and trolling on blogs while drawing a public sector salary, then the savings will be £20bn in Year 2 and £50bn of savings over the Parliament.
Now who has the poor grasp of economics?
Strange thing British politics.
According to the Lib/Dems and Labour spin doctors, Cameron is the following.
A man who has lurched to the right.
A man that wants to leave the EU ASAP, but is too scared or dishonest to say so.
A man that wants desperately to deduce taxation, and public expenditure.
A man who wants to reduce the power of the state in as many aspects of our lives as practically possible.
And a few other perfectly sensible popular and logical things.
The point is that if many potential Conservative voters personally believed Cameron was the above and was seriously planning to do these things. They would support him 150%. It would be the end of The Libertarian Party and UKIP. Thus uniting the powers of reaction, and personal liberty and economic prosperity. Keeping overt socialism out of office for 20 years at least.
Most conservatives problems are that many dont believe that Cameron is seriously trying to achieve any of these things. Or even if he was, our Fascist media The Conservative Parties big wigs and the entire leftist British establishment ie The BBC and The EU, would NOT allow him too, without destroying the economy, along with any form of social cohesion, in a heart beat.
Therefore Leftist propaganda is helping Cameron get elected. More then they could possibly understand. Every nasty vindictive word that comes out of Ken Livingstone's mouth about Boris Johnson hands BJ another 1000 votes.
Why? This IS the case. I have little sensible explanation. But here is one idea.
Maybe perceived absolute power not only corrupts, it actually makes the holders of it go clinically insane, in the medium to long term. As they start to believe their own lies and vicious, vacuous, BBC Ruling Political class propaganda. Who Knows?
Somethings never change. A fact that will I hope, become self apparent to those that live long enough, to notice.
After all the Conservative Party made a similar mistake between 95-02. When they used to wrongly believe that the New Labour Party was just an Old Labour Party in rather more smartly suited lambs clothing. Headed up by a, soon to be obviously bullshitting semi-conservative, namely Tony Blair. So would divide itself out of power within one or a maximum of two terms.
Not understanding that New Labour post clause 4 was now a full on Neo-Fascist Party instead of a divided Neo-Fascist and Loony lefty Neo-Communist one.
Time will tell. Lets just hope, that half the country are not eating dog or each other, before they work out the truth for themselves. Because as sure as eggs is eggs, the BBC is not going to help them one tiny little bit. Not even when all the dogs have been eaten, and the kids are next on the menue.
Atlas shrugged.
4.15pm: This is what happens when the economy slips into recession:
1. Gordon realises his budget is seriously in deficit, forcing him to choose between spending cuts and increasing revenue.
2. Not wishing to alienate the army of Labour voting public sector workers, he opts to increase revenue through punative taxation and borrowing.
3. Increased government borrowing starts to push inflation up. Inflation further increases as sterling goes into freefall and imports rocket in price.
4. The Bank of England raises interest rates, both to curb inflation and support the pound. Mortgage payments increase, which is especially problematic for those who took out huge loans as the housing market peaked.
5. Punative taxation and crippling mortgage payments force households to curb consumer spending, thus exacerbating the recession and causing widespread layoffs in the retail industry. Repossessions and unemployment rocket.
It's not going to be pretty.
as ever the stealth and fantasy ecnomics , the lack of rigourous interrrigation coupled with the none answer or the latte and syrup flavouring answer.
its facism all right , but dressed as an eccentric benfactor .
un fortunately for mr darling his rock fiasco as regards to the books is his undoing , this is socialist ecnomics and trickery is very sophisticated , but with this budget there will be noticeable income groups with either less or future burdens .
if he borrows more were screwed for years to come , if he cuts its ecnomic slowdown .
basically he cannot cut borrowing , its a slow death .
Jack and the Beanstalk economics
Jack and his mother were very poor bankers. They had to sell their porsch. Jack sold the car for some debt obligations. When he took the obligations home his mother was so mad that she threw them out the window.
The next morning there was a giant debt mountain that had grown up to the sky. Jack climbed up the mountain. He found a castle. The governments chancellor let Jack in and fed him some supper. When the government came home he hid Jack. The government ate his supper and then asked for his magic taxpayer that laid golden eggs. When the giant fell asleep Jack ran home with the taxpayer. Jack and his mother became rich with the golden tax from the magic payer.
Jack went back two more times. The first time he brought back a bag of consultancy jobs. The second time when he went to take the magic PFI deals, the Mps started to moan and woke up the government. The government ran after Jack. Jack climbed down the mountain and moved to the cayman islands before the government could catch him. Jack and his mother lived happily ever after.
We however will be paying for it for a long time
Something to brighten your day
http://www.siol-nan-gaidheal.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5004
£10 billion is 1.7% of total government spending - a fleabite.
The government accounts aren't even that accurate - that sort of money gets lost in the rounding.
WHERE, OH WHERE, OH WHERE,OH WHERE ,OH WHERE ,OH WHEREFORE ART THOU BROTHER GEORGE????????????
YOU USELESS IDLE FUCKWIT.
GUIDO'S WORKING HIS BOLLOCKS OFF ,EVEN THE BEEBOIDS ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE(STEPHANIE FLANDERS IN PARTICULAR SHOULD BE GETTING LUVVED UP MORNING NOON AND NIGHT)
ANYTHING LESS THAN THE TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF DARLING AND BROWN WILL SIMPLY BE UNACCEPTABLE IN THE BUDGET RESPONSE
WHAT WILL WE GET??????????
MY GUESS IS FOPPISH LIGHTWEIGHT CANDY FLOSS.
IF CAMERON CAN'T FACE THE FACTS ABOUT THIS MONG AND DROP HIM OVERBOARD THEM WE'RE ALL FUCKED.
SAYS COLONEL MADD
OT, but amusant, n'est ce pas?
We need a chuckle now and then in Broon's humour free, (and PC's), free zone.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we%92re-treated-worse-than-nig%11nogs%2c-say-white-working-class-20080306775/
phtxvio
thick as thieves said...
"new labour=full of shit."
You are in good company then.
Harriet Hamster said...
"When are we going to obtain that list of Labour MP's who had family on the payroll..I don't see the Beeboids pressing for it much"
Why only Labour. They are all at it.
What a bloody shame Vince Cable's not a Tory and the Shadow Chancellor. He is the only parliamentarian who has one ounce of sense when it comes to the economy. The rest haven't got a fucking clue!
Economy hitting the rocks? It's going to make the Titanic look like an accident on a boating lake!
Does anyone know what Vince Cable's PhD thesis was on?
anon 9.20,
I was until you turned up spastic.
I have tried for awhile to find out where profits from the North Sea Oil went. It has been suggested that it has gone on repaying America for World War II - the last payment being in the past few years!
People may think Darling is as bright as an energy efficent lightbulb but he has solved this crisis.
Found these notes in the meeting room..It doesn't say who they were written by but have been dated 12/03/08
In 1974 the top-rate of income tax increased to its highest rate since the war, 83%. This applied to incomes over £20,000, and combined with a 15% surcharge on 'un-earned' income (investments and dividends) could add to a 98% marginal rate of personal income tax. This rate should become the norm, except the rate applies to incomes over £24,500 and there are exemptions.
Labour Party members
Members of the BBC
Union Members
Mining or ex miners
Luvvies
Guardian readers
pop stars
state employees [ except GP's or firemen or beat policemen]
Government [obviously]
religious minority leaders
Also NI at 11% is much too low. The base 10% tax rate disappears in April and so should this.
NI will rise to 25% for everyone not in the public sector.
VAT will change to a new two tier system.
Band A is now 2%
Band B moves to 29%
Band A is payable North of Watford and band B south of Watford.
Imposition tax on the removal of currency or assets from the UK payable by a 99% tax effective as at the end of this sentance.
I recommend this budget to the House.
OR IF THAT DOESNT WORK
Plan B
Call the IMF
2:13pm
Like the point about killing off maggie...how about a car crash involving her and her playboy muslim lover...it would run and run and
Home Office and Treasury now owned offshore
Billions of pounds of private finance initiative projects approved by Gordon Brown, including the refurbished Treasury headquarters in Whitehall and the new Home Office, have been moved offshore by their City owners to avoid paying tax on their profits.
More than 50 PFI schemes have now been included in portfolios held in Channel Islands tax havens by three major PFI investment companies, HSBC Infrastructure, 3i Infrastructure and Babcock and Brown Public Partnerships.
Once the buildings have been completed, up to 90% of the ownership of the UK-registered company running the PFI is transferred to the companies which are based in the tax havens. This means that the income and profits from running the PFIs will be free of UK tax for up to 40 years, depending on the duration of the PFI.
The revelation brings more unwelcome attention to the controversial PFI system, which was dealt a severe blow last month when Metronet, the consortium that won a contract to refurbish two-thirds of the tube network in London, went bust at a cost of £2bn to the taxpayer. The development is an embarrassment for Brown, who based his drive to rebuild Britain's infrastructure on the system, which is designed to transfer risk for the projects to the private sector.
Prem Sikka, professor of accounting at Essex University, said yesterday that the latest revelations should be the subject of an inquiry at Westminster.
"The disclosures of the way these contracts are being handled ought to be investigated by the Commons Treasury committee. The government should put clauses into PFI contracts preventing them being transferred offshore for a set period.
"The only reason to move to the Channel Islands is to avoid taxes or to take advantage of less transparent auditing. The taxpayer is losing out. They are having to pay rent for these projects, but the tax base is declining."
This new, more sophisticated way of avoiding tax comes after a row over the transfer of the Inland Revenue's estate to Bermuda five years ago which led to the Treasury banning departments signing deals with companies using tax havens.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/mar/04/economy?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
Hmmm thought u might have led with this Guido.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3511835.ece
4:19 PM
So altas, who do you recommend for value on doglegs? Sainsbury's or Tescos?
"That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party."
Guido, I'm sure that you think the Tories are the lesser of two evils. The problem is, by doing this sort of thing, you're getting tarred with their brush. Not that you care, but you'll win more hearts and minds by putting the boot into all parties.
g1lgam3sh said...
OT, but amusant, n'est ce pas?
We need a chuckle now and then in Broon's humour free, (and PC's), free zone.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we%92re-treated-worse-than-nig%11nogs%2c-say-white-working-class-20080306775/
phtxvio
You think that it`s funny to rubbish the whites and white working classes?
based on their skin colour and class?
Bet you`re not so condesending of the white working classes and their families in the armed forces laying their lives on the line for cunts like you.
these people stay working class because of cunts like you wont
Keep your anti white racist class snobbery shit to yourself,
no doubt you`d Like to see the white working classes and their children shoved in the gas chambers.
All the privilige and the best education money can buy and your still an ignorant, patronising, tory, hypocrite, snobbish cunt.
I only hope the few remaining decent Torys here give you a fucking good verbal kicking.
That`s if there are any decent Tories here?
The Tories wonder why the working class wont vote for them, perhaps it is because you kick us in the teeth and keep us down for your profits and greed!
still so good to know you got a good laugh out of us shit white working classes who only built and protected this fucking country so privileged cunts like you could abuse us.
splashit,
no, the problem belongs to the labour party. its main problem is that it is losing the propaganda battle.
exactly by what method this corrupt government is eventually defeated is, for the time being, purely academic.
let's just concentrate on finishing the zombies off, eh splash?
try to have a stronger stomach old boy. I know there are brains and blood and guts splattered everywhere but that shows that we are making some progress.
and don't forget, politics is and has always been a very dirty business. we haven't even really got started yet.
all being well we will soon be dropping zombies left, right and centre.
I have sufficient supplies of silver bullets for everyone.
courage splash, courage.
Another comedy classic must watch from Pat Condell youtube legend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dXGJ2rYdA
I fear more for Guido's "brand", but he's big enough and ugly enough to look after himself...
Pat Condell
Well said, mate.
i think broon must be readying his british jobs for british workers speech again .
i am fascinated that now so much more is known about the nu labour "death star" project that he isnt reaching for the button.
hes done for if he doesnt make his speech now , basically publics view is that hes crap because he hasnt said or done anything that means anything to anybody .
weve had the statements , but no one cross examing what his vison is , its like hes made labour into a ghost ship , just some sort of empty shell.
from what i hear budget is to be unstimulating but labelled as a difficult budget. everyones just wondering what labour stands for now which is why the tory lead is so good.
basically if he screws on budget and anymore off balance sheet rubbish , no one in the city will support them , and theres already some creaking rumours on northern rock which alistair hasnt told anyone about yet , to do with junk bonds and commercial business properties mortgages held by granite with nu labour names all over it , and if he doesnt weigh in with his statement and full figs disclouser ,there gonna let that one blow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxZdCm254M
And whilst the Labour government throws Billions away, some dipstick in the (local Labour Party?) gets The People sued for a story about Wrekin Conservative MP Mark Pritchard.
http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=mark-pritchard-mp-apology%26method=full%26objectid=20337208%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
"On 10 February 2008 we published an article "Tory MP in Exes Storm" which alleged that Mark Pritchard MP faced calls for an investigation over claims that his wife was on the parliamentary payroll whilst working as an air stewardess. We now accept this allegation was false." Oops!
The Wrekin and Telford Labour Party seem to have problems with the truth. Having being caught out in several porkies over the years.
And the Wrekin Labour candidate Alison Wedgewood suddenly announced that her hubbie's job meant she could not be the candidate anymore. How very feminist of her!
Yeah, right. That rings true.
4:19 PM
Dear Mr Shrugged,
I must take issue with you over your proposals vis-a-vis dog consumption. This would be economic madness in view of the fact that canines are probably the one commodity we can successfully export to China in order to redress our chasming trade deficit. Given that the Far East now represents the world's fastest growing doggy-bag market, it follows that fostering the creation of a commercial cottag-industry culture out of the present penchant for domestic pet ownership could prove to be an extremely viable option for enterprising families up and down Britain.
Yours sincerely
Ed Poodle esq
I see Goldsmith wants the treason laws changed, read removed from the stature book.
Is Labout getting nervous?
I do hope so.
the video the fascist EUSSR and its puppets in the neo labour party and its propaganda wing does not want you to see.
you will NOT see this on the fascist BBC!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOcG2G_6uC0
a few more years and these people will be classed as enemys of the state and locked up indefinately for trying to protect YOUR democratic rights from the fascists in Europe yet again.
if you really do value democracy then you will act NOW, yes you in the free press or do you admire Hitler? are you ALL fascists? do you want the free press and in particular the political pres shut down, or reduced to being state robots?
in the 30s we were warned of Hitler and its undemocratic imperialistic fascist ways.
yet few tried to wake the people up, many said it may even be a good thing!
we know how that ended with 6 million jews gassed because they had the power to do as they wished. they could not be voted out and anycountry once in could not escape without much bloodshed if ever.
So you in the Free press such as THE SUN, THE TIMES, THE TELIGRAPH.
yes you brag about your power to get people elected, you brag about your powers of influence, unless you start putting these powers into practice to save our democracy then we the peopl and the future generation will hold you responsable for not acting when you KNOW the EU is undemocratic and unaccountable -fascist.
what will you say to your children, should we be reduced to gulags or gas chambers or political prisoners!
WHAT WILL YOU SAY TO THE CHILDREN WHEN THEY CAN NO LONGER THINK FREELY OR EXPRESSTHIER OPINIONS?
you think it wont happen?
these are the very same people who renamed the constitution to cynically rob the people of their democracy?
yes you in the press has the power to save this country and many centuries of democracy that has brought us prosperity, a free press and fairness, and a British way of live that has been admired the world over.
BRITISH PRESS DO SOMTHING, are you traitors, cowards or plain ignorant? or are you the great free press that stands up for democracy?
you tell us, but remember you are running out of time!
You NEVER hear anything like this from the BBC, but just watch them change when the Consrevatives are back. The BBC is new labour.
thick as shit said...
"I have sufficient supplies of silver bullets for everyone."
Everyone would be peased if you used the first one on yourself.
The Budget response should be Osborne's very last chance to show he has big enough balls for the job. The impression given to the public so far is that Cameron has carefully put together a strong, experienced, politically astute frontbench team, and then completely buggered it up by mistaking a sixth former on work experience for one of his MPs and making him Shadow Chancellor.
Osborne can't help the fact that he looks about eighteen and has a squeaky voice, but he needs to work doubly hard to counter that negative first impression. He hasn't impressed me yet, and I'm as loyal a Tory as you are likely to meet. Several people have commented that they wished Vince Cable would defect to the Conservatives, and that says it all really.
Wake up, Boy George. You are in what the military would call a target-rich environment. Stop feeling sorry for Darling and start giving him and his puppet-master the kicking they deserve. We don't want touchy-feely, big-tent, all-in-this-together consensus politics at this point. That was last year. Now the economy is fucked, we're all dirt poor, our businesses are going down the pan, our homes are threatened with repossession and diesel is 114.9p a litre.
We want blood.
anon zombie 8.34,
I have just checked the list. you are on it but I am not.
spastic.
Spot on Dickie 08.45; problem in a nutshell
Osborne is simply too herbivorous to turn NuLabs economic record into a smoking desert and then plough salt into it.
The Tories won't be able to form a government with their present lead(BTW what is boy Dave doing about the utterly blatant difference between Conservative GE votes and seats;the Electoral Commission needs Nuking)
Sadly George n' Dave think that sitting to attention with nice shiny shoes and their OE ties with THAT knot is going to result in the election being dumped in their lap-it ai'nt.Brown will have to be dragged out of Downing Street by the testicles
A cull of 50% of existing Tory MPs and an end to the policy of fighting key marginals with Old Etonian Tax Barristers called Tarquin as the Tory candidate is needed to get a decent pool of front bench talent
Interesting to see (re my suggestion of last night)George literally cosying up to Stepanie Flanders on MarrBla's sofa....and those boots..........aaaaagh
Says Colonel Madd
By the time Cameron responds to the Budget Statement the TV pundits will be earnestly discussing what it all means for a single mother in Nottingham with 5 multi-ethnic kids, two rotweillers and a crack habit. I fear they will conclude that she will be much better off.
" the nasty party said...11:49 PM, March 08, 2008"
How appositely named you are indeed.
For your edification I am one of those white working class people you obviously know only by happenstance.
I came through the 'Social Care' system and live in one of the poorest areas of one of our Northern cities.
Indeed, from my tower block window I am sure that I can look down on you in a more realistic sense than you; looking down on the real white working class as if we are incapable of educating ourselves, or having a sense of irony and humour.
You Sir, are a poltroon whose ignorance is only overshadowed by your arrogance.
To quote on of our local heroes, John Cooper Clarke: 'Nobody can find a good word for you but I can, Twat!'
goqndlo
4:56 AM
Dear Ed
I really don't wish to take all the credit for this fantastic new initiative and I'd be delighted if you would consider substituting 'Balls' for 'Brown' in the headline. Can't wait to unleash this one on the public.
Gordon
9:17 PM
So great to know that someone really cares about white working class empowerment and understands our rightful place in society.
But the money does not exist in any case!
http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2008/03/gordon-its-not-politics-its-maths-warns.html
There's a new political party, the Economic Democrats, who are pointing out that money is not backed by anything physical.
4.56am, 4:35 PM
Dear Mr Brown,
May I take this opportunity to mention that I consider you to be a true British visionary.
And if I may be so bold, might I also take the liberty of conveying to you this text message, which I've just received from one of our valued clientele in response to the announcement of your latest houndbreaking economic strategy. I'm certain you will appreciate it's sincere and supportive sentiments.
*************
gordon. wow wee reely kneed a pm like u. wot unnerstanz the kneads of the peepol. smegga respecked man.
PS:
Prime Minister, the SMS from your admirer was signed 'X'.
8:45am
"That was last year. Now the economy is fucked, we're all dirt poor, our businesses are going down the pan, our homes are threatened with repossession and diesel is 114.9p a litre.
We want blood."
You have my vote mortal. Plasma fuelled motor vehicles are most definitely the future for humankind (well...for some of them anyway) and extremely eco-friendly too. I'll have mine converted at once.
10:45am
the Electoral Commission needs Nuking:
No problemo, Colonel Madd, when we launch on Iran, our boys'll probably chuck that one in as a freebie. Nothing's too much when it comes to our buddies. We won't even notice we've done it.
Guido my dear man, you forgot about the £70 billion for decommissioning the nuclear power stations.
"Sorry Guido you are totally wrong, and have a poor grasp of economics
If you make tax cuts of £10bn, ie cut PAYE Tax to lets say 17p in the pound. Thats 10 bn in Yr one 20bn by year two, and in the life time of a parliament it will cost 50bn."
As opposed to 38bn a year increase in debt, which is 76bn after two years and 380bn after ten years. On top of the 600bn of debt already run up by this government. So now you can see why the government produced what "Evanomics" Davies described as a "New Doomsday book" which listed all the governments assets, including public libraries and museums. Basically the government can't run up any more debt on the basis it can pay it back using tax income, so it is going to have to start providing collateral in the form of fixed assets - like the Natural History Museum. When UK PLC goes into a recession later this year we won't even be able to make the £35bn in interest we are currently wasting on this debt and the bailiffs will be around from the House of Saud to re-claim the Natural History Museum. Perhaps they will take it down brick by brick and re-build it in a shopping complex in Dubai as a nice place to sell gold watches. They've got plenty of gold since the UK treasury sold it to them on the cheap...
Oh, by the way, £38bn in government bonds equates to and equivalent increase in money supply, and a £38bn increase in money supply will give you a 2.7% increase in GDP "growth" when measured in cash terms. So now you know how a Labour government can create "growth" whilst having a trade deficit which is in the red to record levels. Shame all that extra money supply is now been squeezed out of property and is ending up in food and fuel. 30% of voters still think you know what you are doing Gordon. Well just wait to 2010 - you'll be lucky if your own MPs will still be voting Labour.
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