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Thursday, March 6, 2008

MP's Wine Cellar Refit Cost £7 Million

Guido's man close to the sommelier tells him that the state-of-the-art refit of the cellars where the MP's wine is kept cost the taxpayers £7 million. What have the parliamentary pigs got for themselves? Gold plated troughs?

They say that parliament is the best club in London. Of course it is, the "honourable members" don't have to pay for their membership. We pay them whatever they vote themselves. Yet we don't even get to see what they spend it on. The best thing to put in the cellars is gunpowder...

55 comments:

Ian said...

Gold-plated, perhaps. But the standard of their behaviour suggests that they use the ancient Romans' lead-lined drinking vessels!

mutleythedog said...

Well it was no doubt cheaper than the wine cellar Chez Guido!!

Oh! to live in a democracy said...

Would these be the very same cellars that your ancestor attempted to re-fit and was three-lined-whiped soundly for, Guido?

They work for us and drink for us too!

Look on the bright side though, it will save of Mrs Martin's taxi rides to the off-licence.

=================================

Much as I detest and hold in comptempt those MP's that voted not to allow us a vote on the treaty, I am bristling with the cowardly scum who couldn't even be arsed to vote.

Representing the wishes of their electorate???

Their names are all noted, come the election we will know which bucket of shit to vote for. Grad your expences while you still can.

If everything is so good why do the markets keep going down said...

Off this particular topic but:

Trichet is blathering on about how things are all luverly, though it's no surprise things don't look really bad just yet as it's only six months since the equity markets went belly up.

Now that collapse is affecting the real economy, the banks are sacking or not renewing their temporary staff and I was even told today that 'weak' permanent staff are now under the spotlight.

Tell me what happens to everyone else when the highest paid people in the economy start hitting the dole queues.

Everyone else soon follows.

Tuscan Tony said...

"The new wine cellar is a long way from demonstrating that people from different backgrounds feel at ease in being part of this."

As Maggie Hodge, from your earlier post, might put it.

Rickytshirt said...

B-b-b-but...they told us alcohol is bad for us! They must be immune from it's negative effects because they're special.

thick as thieves said...

as alcohol is the gateway drug to other drug use, for politicians it can also be the gateway drug to corruption.
a few glasses of alcohol in convivial company may well allow slightly dubious proposals to take flight. proposals that in the sober light of day would be rejected out of hand.
politicians shouldn't be allowed to drink at work. they are there to work, not drink.
I think MPs should be alcohol and drug tested before they are allowed to vote. if you aren't allowed to drive when drunk then you certainly shouldn't be allowed to drive this country's parliament in an unfit state.
never mind this fucking cellar that they want to bill us 7 million pounds for. fucking hell! they must be mad.
note to MPs:forget the cellar idea. people already think you are a selfish, alcohol soaked, useless bunch cunts.
best not to wind up up the lynch mob eh?

Gareth said...

£7millions? Bargain! Probably done on time and on budget by a studious and curtious horde of immigrant labour.

Or perhaps not. This is Parliament we're talking about. Any idea how much it should have cost, where the job was advertised and who done it?

Hansard has a question to Geoff Hoon in 2006 concerning the management and contents of the cellar. At that time it had 36,500 bottles with a value of £674,000.

How complicated can refitting a cellar be? Remove mouldy shelves and replace with new ones. Check lighting. Make sure not to hot and not too cold.

Booze Britain - sloshed to the very top.

andrewha said...

When the late Robert Maxwell was an MP & chairman of the catering ctee of the HoC, he sold off most of the cellar. So what is there to refurbish?

machiavelli said...

I'd rather have a wine cellar than a fucking E Library (which is not nearly as exciting as it sounds...)

Pop 'ular' bitch said...

A friend of Housing Minister Caroline Flint claims that when she was a Students' Union leader at University of East Anglia she did the popular lefty women's thing at the time and kept her pubic hair au natural. Such was the density of her lower thatch, which can be imagined from the luxuriant black barnet on her head, and given the location of her choice of tertiary education, she was known as "Thetford Forest".

Something smells fishy... said...

Are you sure Guido? £7 million on refitting a cellar where the value of the wine was £675,000 in 2006?!!! What is wrong with using offsite storage, and resupplying the HoC when necessary? The cost to store 36,000 bottles in the best commercial store (Octavian) would be in the region of £50,000 a year or less, plus logistic costs. Something is really, really wrong here.

Dr Wolf said...

One thing is for sure, when they have an endless supply of taxpayers money to hand, they wont be filling the cellar with any of that Blossom Hill shite.

''We want the finest wines available to humanity. And we want them here, and we want them now! oh, and no receipt required''.

Anonymous said...

OT but thought you might find this interesting.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/anti_terrorist_hotline/

Anonymous said...

Better value than a £1m bathroom in Portcullis House, or that stupid new ramp they've paid £10m+ for. Also, whilst I realise that the wine is subsidised, I'd like to think the house authorities will flog quite a lot of it to corporate events, and not let the MPs just quaff it all.

Anonymous said...

Better value than a £1m bathroom in Portcullis House, or that stupid new ramp they've paid £10m+ for. Also, whilst I realise that the wine is subsidised, I'd like to think the house authorities will flog quite a lot of it to corporate events, and not let the MPs just quaff it all.

killemallletgodsortemout said...

An anagram of 'New Labour Manifesto'

Wee Loan, Rub, Fist, Moan.



(I really must get out more)

robbie said...

Too much information there! Pop 'ular' Bitch. 2.24pm

Guido you must not mention gunpowder or plots. The thought police will be along to feel your collar. You would be considered a 'terrist' now for even thinking of copying your namesake's work.

The Hitch said...

pop'ular' bitch

There is nothing wrong with a hairy growler, many Gentlemen prefer a lady to be a little hirsute "downstairs".
Yes, licking out may feel like snogging Brian Blessed or indeed myself, but it does add to the fun.
So congrats to Ms Flynn for having a fanny as hairy as a gorillas balls.*

*will pay good money for a photo of said growler

BC said...

Thickasshit said - "if you aren't allowed to drive when drunk then you certainly shouldn't be allowed to drive this country's parliament in an unfit state."

Churchill was permanently above what is now the legal limit for driving when he was PM and he didn't do too badly.

Anonymous said...

andrewha said - "When the late Robert Maxwell was an MP & chairman of the catering ctee of the HoC, he sold off most of the cellar. So what is there to refurbish?"

Maxwell ceased to be an MP in 1970!

Alex DeLarge said...

I'm glad to have received so many acknowledgements but have to confess that if you take out the 'ular' you will find the source of this tittle tattle.

I wish I could claim personal knowledge, but it would only have been in the context of a story of how I sheard the sheep!

Anonymous said...

Pop 'ular' Bitch. 2.24pm- you stole that straight of popbitch. At least acknowledge them.

1971Thistle said...

"Alexander will not be prosecuted"


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7281820.stm

Bugger...

Elby the Beserk said...

Paid for by closing down Jodrell Bank, which costs the nation the princely sum of £2.5 million pa.

Cunts. Bastards. Fuckwits. Venal lying halfwit cunts.

thick as thieves said...

big cunt 4.31,
so are you saying it is a good thing for a PM to be drunk? would you take that argument further and say it would be a good thing if for example the PM was prescribed pharmaceutical, perhaps amphetamine based products in order to boost his flagging performance.
bc, you are a fucking spastic.
stalk someone else you cunt!

but brown is definitely on something.
in that interview with maguire the cunt kept monging out and staring at his hands. and then zap and brown was back again interacting and droning on and on. that cunt has got to be on some very strong shit.
I think his doctor must have got the dosage wrong to start with which was why gordon has been acting so extra weird recently.
but he has now got the dosage correct and the patient is feeling just fine.
they've got the cunt so doped up that he hasn't got a single care in the world. gordon brown is not mentally stable. when is the labour party going to challenge this madman who leads them?

Anonymous said...

Yes, elby @4:47 they are not the best types are they?

And now Alexander has been let off. Amazing, wouldn't happen if we made a slight error over or speed whilst driving would it?

Anonymous said...

Elby 4.47

You missed greedy & smug off your list

An oversight I am sure

Bill Quango MP said...

Guido .. No

Not the wine old chap. It's priceless stuff.

Pétrus 1961,
Château Yquem 1787
996 Screaming Eagle Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley
2000 Chateau Petrus Pomerol:

Just a small sample, but surely you can't begrudge it us ?

A tipple after a long hard sit on the benches is a small price to pay for Democracy what?

Granted the Cellars are being fitted out in a slightly more lavish style than they were previously with a touch more Baroque fixtures and a secret underground submarine dock , but you know what the bloody traffic is like ..

Leave the Cellars alone Mr Fawkes , you had your chance to 'redecorate' them in your own style some while ago.

All receipts will be there for your scrutiny { except those odd twenty eight thousand that are for £249 or less }

Anonymous said...

Re. most of the above

Isn't referreng to Nulab as cunts disrespectful to cunts?

red despot spotter said...

a little light relief after a rather unbelieveable week .

in tribute to the rev W.V.Awdry

Thomas realises somthings wrong !

it was a sunny day and thomas gentlty steamed into main station .
He tooted at the man in the black suite who turned round ."hello fat, oh ime sorry wheres the fat contoller" , thomas eyes were drawn to the pool of blood oozing out of the station tool cabinet.

the man in the suite responded "och wee blue engine the fat controller has had a little accident ime in charge now you will call me the Driech Director"

"oh" said thomas ,at that point nick the yellow engine huffed in "ive just brought three front bench trucks for scrapping, they were holding me back " chuffed clegg .

"right oh" said the Driech Director put then in the sidings cant have anything that isnt working for my cause"

The Driech Director was putting up a new rules poster "whats that said thomas " ."from now on all engines, trucks and carriages will be painted in EU red an have a biometric ID and do as i command or die" said the Driech Director.

Thomas thought how much he missed the fat controller , he always used to ask him and some of the other engines him when any work needed doing.

thomas asked "whats wrong with blue?, the passengers like blue"

"Shut it" said the Driech Director "its mine now all mine Ha Ha Ha "

nick joined in and hooted out loud "yeah fuck off Thomas"

"i dont what your fuckin laughing at " said the Driech Director "fuckin yellow gets its first, what are you gonna do abstain"

Thomas quietly left worried that somthing horribly wrong had occured at the main station and that sodor itself was now under some sort of terrible evil rule.
He missed the more kindly Fat Controller and went off to have words with rest of the inhabitants of Sodor as somthing was clearly wrong and somthing had to be done about it .


next episode :Thomas thinks alistar (the spiv engine)is lying about his coal and water consumption figures, and has a fuel scam operating.

Anonymous said...

Just another sign that MP's think that they are unaccountable.

Alex DeLarge said...

Thick cunt @ 4:40pm

"Pop 'ular' bitch" not a big enough clue.

Fuckwit.

Even so, given the interest I made it ABSOLUTLEY CLEAR, even for cretins like you.

Alex DeLarge said...

PS.

I stole it OFF popbitch.

Not a fuckwit, a halfwit.

Titus said...

pop "ular" bitch 2.24pm:

"A friend of Housing Minister Caroline Flint claims that when she was a Students' Union leader at University of East Anglia she did the popular lefty women's thing at the time and kept her pubic hair au natural. Such was the density of her lower thatch, which can be imagined from the luxuriant black barnet on her head, and given the location of her choice of tertiary education, she was known as "Thetford Forest"."

Somebody ought to edit this into her Wikipedia entry...

sitondafence said...

7 million is just loose change when you can blow 110 billion on a failed business

Anonymous said...

And Guido's sources are oh so unimpeachable.

What's his alternative to parliamentary democracy?

hatfield girl said...

Fitting out cellars costs more than £7 million; it costs life and soul. Consider the cellars in Jersey.

As the Independent said after the Ronald Waterhouse Tribunal reported :

"...cases are taken from a list of more than 1,800 names of suspected paedophiles, convicted abusers, and care workers, teachers and individuals, who have aroused suspicion.

A total of 67 investigations have been identified by The Independent [2001]. The police have asked for details of some of them to remain a secret because they are at a particularly sensitive stage. They involve more than 400 homes and schools, at least 2,000 victims, 415 suspects, and have in excess of 400 detectives working on them full-time. They have so far resulted in at least 51 convictions and there are 25 trials pending.

Many of the inquiries are huge and involve substantial resources. In Greater Manchester, Operation Cleopatra is investigating more than 66 care homes. Operation Flight in Gwent is investigating 19 homes, including the former children's home at Ty Mawr near Abergavenny in west Wales. The police want to trace 10,000 former residents.

In Devon and Cornwall, Operation Lentisk is examining allegations of abuse throughout the two counties between 1960 and 1985. A 34-strong team is investigating allegations from more than 230 former pupils and residents against 102 alleged offenders.

Not surprisingly, considering the vast area it covers, the Metropolitan Police has the most investigations, with 22 recorded on the national police database. These include a 31-strong team to look at 30 local authority care homes in Lambeth over allegations of abuse against up to 200 children, said to have happened from 1974 to 1994.

Operation Care in Merseyside is investigating 84 care establishments. So far 27 people have been convicted of physical and sexual abuse.

The care scandal started to emerge in 1989 when the police investigated a series of complaints from past residents about abuse in Castle Hill, a privately owned home in Ludlow, Shropshire, which took in children from local authorities. Allegations of abuse were made by 57 victims, and in 1991 Ralph Morris, proprietor of the home, was jailed for 12 years.

The inquiry sparked off a series of new investigations, most notably in Staffordshire, North Wales and Leicestershire.

The extent of the institutional abuse, in which hundreds of vulnerable children suffered the most appalling assaults and mental torture, was illustrated by the Tribunal of Inquiry headed by Sir Ronald Waterhouse. His report, published last February, said at least 650 people had been abused in children's homes in North Wales.

But while many people had hoped that the worst of the care scandals had already come to light, the extent of the current investigations, and likelihood that these will mushroom, make this a vain hope.

Cellars.

log cabin said...

7:22 PM

"Thetford Forest"

There used to be plenty of wood in there, apparently.

sim-o said...

"We pay them whatever they vote themselves. Yet we don't even get to see what they spend it on."

We pay them, Guido. But you pay your taxes to the Tithe an Oireachtais, don't you.

undergrowth said...

9.26pm

Nice idea, lg, but not a very ecological solution to the UK housing problem, I suggest.

Although given the present economic climate, Gordon would do well to cultivate her for future Chancellor.

decanta million said...

2:46 PM

Fair enough fishy, all very sound proposals, but you fail to appreciate that we pay MPs to come up with imaginative and creative solutions to the most pressing political issues affecting our everyday lives.

I reckon they've done us proud.

sensadine mint smile said...

the hitch 4.24

"Yes, licking out may feel like snogging Brian Blessed or indeed myself, but it does add to the fun.
So congrats to Ms Flynn for having a fanny as hairy as a gorillas balls.*

*will pay good money for a photo of said growler"

I tend to find that squirting a line of toothpaste along my lips gives men fresh breath for a more confident kiss.

house of posthards said...

glitch 4.24

not that I have any improper personal interest...

but how much are you offering dear?

Anonymous said...

Margaret Hodge on Newsnight AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGH
Where's my fucking meat cleaver???

says Colonel Madd

dezsez said...

Re: Pop Bitch. No wonder the country's f*cked if people find that sort of thing interesting. 'Mildly famous woman has pubic hair' shock. Brown's bum-banditry has relevance outside his private life; Flint's netherbarnet has f*ck-all outside hers.

Alex DeLarge said...

Yes dezsez.

You are a humourless socialist cunt.

red despot spotter said...

oh an interesting "any leading question time"

edward milliband turned out a nice edward fox impersonation , more chumley warner tweed and pipe comfy armchair , than lefty nut job, unruffled, unconcerned emotionless politico bot . he doesnt blogg oh no low intellectual stuff for me, unlike my twin who it was outlined was a prolific blogger.

the red despot spotter disagrees as he thinks david milliband is indeed prolific , but more in the vien of more sheets on a bog roll .

so labour did not want to field anything scotish sounding (they have so many cabinet members to choose from).

nigel farrage quite rightly shone and basher davis added to outrage which most of the country now feel.
marcus bridgestock had the best line with the lib dems stance "it was like ringo star losing his house in the mcartneys divorce case".

baroness williams passionately spoke and avoided the undemocratic new image of her party , but pointed out that the lords may be a bit more intellectual than rumpy pumpy action lib dem davies could muster.her support of cleggs manouverings was alarming almost condoning the parlimentary mess.
millibands isolation tack deserved farages return.

Id cards now looking like just what is point issue .(i hope to post some more on this idea as there is abit more to it of a more sinsister nature ) bashers response of 1984 was a warning and not a template was excellent.

farrages description of the society that we now have to live in ,that those of us that do not frequent ramseys and olivers resurants for our evening meals regulary , was insightful, and so we get to see more of what a disaster nu labour have been , a fake , a fantasy and a fraud to decent living attainable by the common person .

and what is termed as the political class is begining to emerge out of the spin . A class that has abondoned its duty to represent the people and instead come to view politics as a cattle farming excercise with a tolerable level of diseased stock and mental health and family breakdown , while they sup expense and fine living and give jobs to relatives , create class war and racism and write books on courage that attempt to warp history into a leftist hsitory of sucess and glory.

the red despot spotter is considering a bill , that forces marxists to undergo a lie detector test before being allowed to enter politics .

q1 what is the end result of marxism/socialism ??

it would work on the prediction model that if you remove the highest factor in causing disease you could have a healthier society.

if they fail the test they should be burnt at the stake or take up citizen ship in somalia .

jus'askin' said...

Guido does provide some good links.

I saw the following in the comments to the "The Rise Of The New Politics" link in the seen elsewhere box. I think we can all sympathise with the commenter's sentiments so it seemed worthwhile copying it here.
He sign himself: xxxCORRECTxxx

"You guys in the national media love the whole system way too much to rock the boat beyond a day or two's mock outrage - you're all in your element waltzing around Westminster, pretending you're part of a "West Wing" lifestyle involving secret briefings, covert lunches and cloistered intrigues.

Hardly anyone in the national media these days gives that much of a monkeys when politicians have their snouts in the trough, break their word or just plain out lie, especially when it's someone from your own side.

British politicians hold nothing but contempt for the public at large, especially that fat rump in the middle that annoyingly happens to be white, English, working/middle class and heterosexual - and they're positively dismayed that they have to be re-elected every few years by that bunch of inferior pond scum.

Dave Cameron's not the answer, he's at the heart of the problem. Trying to come over all regular joe when there's many millions in the bank, thousands of acres tucked up somewhere and more titles than you can shake a stick at is about as genuine as Broon's smile.

Nick Clegg, sitting in the House of Commons as a man of the people, who happens to be half-dutch, 1/4 russian, speaks every language under the sun (save common-sense English), is married to a Spaniard, would prefer to be on the continent, spent his formative years at the most cosmopolitan and urban of all major Public Schools and has as much in common with the electorate as Pete Docherty has with Ghandi.

Ditto half the rest of them. They're not English. They're not British. They're bloody "elites," politicians who mostly consider themselves "citizens of the world," with an inherent right to rule over the nasty plebs. Lord knows why they want to be in a national parliament, elected by citizens of one nation to represent that one place. They'd be happier in some Inter-Galactic Senate, solving the rest of the galaxy's problems (just so long as those nasty English people didn't expect to get their money's worth.)

Nothing wrong with privilege, smarts, determination, drive or many millions in the bank (in only), but our elites are as far removed in their very core and instinct as any in the developed world.

They'd have to be taught what it's like to even be a regular English or British (non-Islington) middle-class person, so international, cosmopolitan, urban and stratospheric is their very being, let alone the struggles they must face trying to understand the worries of the indigenous working class.

That's why it's so much easier to cop out and push/force "ideals" of 'multiculturalism', 'tolerance', 'diversity', political correctness or whatever else they can think of. Do they even care about any of that stuff - who knows, they've got nothing else up their sleeve. They don't actually like the country or the people, so I suppose changing it seems like the best option.

If it all goes tits up big time, they can always decamp to Barcelona, Turkey or wherever, their loyalty is to themselves, a complete disregard for England guised as being a "citizen of the world."

I've completely lost track of what I'm writing, so I'm going to stop before my ears start steaming and my head swivels. Please disregard all above which seems to prove I've gone nuts. "

Elby the Beserk said...

To my many admirers, thank you :-) As for the word cunt, my sweetheart, long term sez that cunt is of course an old English word meaning utter fucking cunt, as well as a place for us manly boys to seek delight.

Truth is, they are a bunch of cunts. Truth is, Brown is CLEARLY on medication, the pic of him in The Times a couple of days ago suggests he's not long for this world. Question is, will he finish us off before we finish him off?

Guido. Please order the barrels. Gentlemen, Ladies, prepare your pikestaffs, time has come to reclaim democracy.

Does treason still carry a capital punishment? Anyway we can get Brown on a charge of treason?

Anonymous said...

So Caroline Flint went to UEA eh? -
Yet another one of the Wilson Universities that is a waste of space.

That's the place where the 'Climate Research Unit' is - you know, the people who are carefully being 'economical with the truth' and causing this great spurious concern over the Climate.

It must be the air there that causes all this forest growth. So what's that telling us about the climate there - hot wind aplenty?

Anonymous said...

Unless things have changed. The Commons and the Lord Catering breaks even. Yes the staff restaurant are cheap, but are paid for by the banqueting departments use of rooms for functions. A dinner with wine in these venues is a minimum of £50 a head - which is about the same as any other type of venue in and around Westminster. I understand that the profits from these ventures then subsidise the rest of the Refreshment Dept.

All was well, until someone stopped political parties (the main users of these rooms) using them, as it was wrong to make a profit out of these venues. All good stuff, except it was not subsidised and now staff have been laid off, as the rooms (once booked for months on end, are now empty. So that will leave a black hole in the catering budget.

dezsez said...

Yes dezsez.

You are a humourless socialist cunt.


It's Oscar Wilde, back from the dead. Let's see if I can do it too. Fuck off, you Sun-reading twat! And stick "socialist" up your ever-expanding jaxie.

prime cunt of british state said...

undergrowth 9:55 PM

Great thinking man. I'll start grooming her immediately.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10.30 am said... "So Caroline Flint went to UEA eh? -
Yet another one of the Wilson Universities that is a waste of space."

Wilson and Labour had nothing to do with the creation of UEA. It was founded under a Conservative administration in 1963.


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