Analysis of MPs Expenses Shows Labour Most Expensive
Brown and Cameron Fiddle Housing Allowance
There should of course be no reason why expense claims should vary in aggregate across party lines, yet they do. Guido reckons this says something significant about their attitude to the stewardship of taxpayer's money. Of the 50 most expensive MPs 74% are Labour, 18% LibDem and one is a Conservative - David Mundell. The rest are SNP members who Guido will excuse on the clear grounds that they have, by definition, justifiably higher travel expenses.The ten most expensive users of stationery are also Labour MPs, in category after category it is the same with Labour MPs always claiming the most. One stand out example of expense padding is from Janet Anderson, the Labour MP for Rossendale & Darwen. She has the most amazingly expensive car habit judging by her mileage allowance.* With a claim of £13,851 - which equates to a claim for over 50,000 miles - assuming she drives at an average of say 40 mph - that is 1,200 hours of solid driving, or 50 days and nights non-stop. Enter her for Le Mans!
The only honourable exception to Labour prolifigacy is Dennis Skinner. Party leaders have no shame either:-
- Why does Dave claim £20,563 for staying away from home? We all know he lives in Notting Hill, the kids go to school locally, it is his primary residence isn't it. Is he claiming the Witney constituency home is his primary residence? The same fiddle that the Yvette and Ed Balls pull?
- Why does Gordon claim £17,017 for the same when he already has his 10 Downing Street residence paid for by the taxpayer?
Sir Michael White and the rest of the apologists for our political class like to claim that our politicians are largely uncorrupt. This is only because they have voted themselves transparent fiddles which may be legal, but are not right. In the private sector the same practises would lead to fraud charges or at the very least questions from the taxman. Our politicians have voted for themselves to be above the laws that they apply to the voters...
*She still manages to claim for rail travel more than hundreds of other MPs.
Credit : Via original number crunching from Letters from a Tory based on 2006/7 data.
UPDATE : The excusing of the SNP was poorly phrased and has been deleted from the above, for the purposes of this article Guido is excusing their high spending. As pointed out by many in the comments, David Mundell also holds a (or rather the) Scottish seat for the Tories, so he should be excused on the same grounds as the SNP. Guido did not research the location of all 646 seats because he has important cocktails to deal with. No doubt some of the other high spending LibDems and Labour MPs are Scottish. The general point is still good. Most of the highest spenders (ex-transport) are not from Scotland in any event.
96 comments:
Gordon Brown, a non-driver and presumed user of chauffeured limousines over the last 11 years when Chancellor and PM, claimed £6,465 in car expenses according to column 5 of the spreadsheet. Contrast the position of Stephen Byers, another non-driver (and former Transport Secretary), who claimed nothing. No doubt there is an explanation for this anomaly somewhere?
You excuse the SNP members? Pay attention now please. I have before me a pie chart from the Torygraph showing where the Government spends its (our) money. Predictably, social security is the largest by far at £146.4bn. Next comes Health (£94bn), "Other government departments" (?) (£67.1bn) and Education (£46.9bn).
What would you expect after that? Defence? Transport? Nah, they're piffling compared with the next big one. Wait for it - Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland.(46.7bn)
The expenditure on these whining parasites is only 0.2bn short of the ENTIRE education budget. It is SEVEN TIMES the transport budget and almost half the NHS budget. What the fuck goes on here? Are we keeping the Micks in betting slips and the Scots in vomit? The Welsh in wife-beating instruments?
This is absolutely ridiculous. Withdrawal of the subsidy would wipe out the public sector deficit (£42.6bn) at a stroke. Make the fuckers pay their way, or give England independence and allow us to piss ourselves laughing as they crawl to their pathetic mock parliaments and regional assemblies for sustenance.
Re my last: Someone has just pointed out that part of education and transport expenditure may be hidden in local authority budgets. I honestly don't know. What is certain from that pie chart is that spending on Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland exceeds the public sector defecit.
PS Well done for turning off moderation, Guido. Now get back to your ladyboys.
You’re giving a free pass to the SNP because they’re Scottish, but…
David Mundell, the only Tory MP in that list, is also the only Tory MP with a Scottish constituency. Why won’t you give him a free pass too?
And the Labour and Lib Dem MPs on that list, how many of them have Scottish seats? Why won’t you let them off too?
How many MPs would find a senior position in the private sector (excluding selling their "contacts")? If Hazel Blears, Tessa Jowell or Nick Clegg worked for Morrisons, does anyone believe they would rise to the level of store manager?
They are ilking us dry and they get away with it because Toynbee and her nose-peg ilk can't bring themselves to vote for the necessary cleansing. Twerps like Toynbee - with their football fan mentality - always support "their team", and to hell with the lies, broken promises, greed, and wars.
Livingstone embodies Labour's contempt for propriety. He is rude, wasteful, and perhaps drunken. We can replace him with Boris, we can replace him with Paddick - but replace him we shold. His defeat would be no more than an encouraging start.
Pay attention Finkelstein.
Guido, have you checked the Lords' list? Why does Lord Paul (worth 1.5 billion and one of the biggest donors to the Labour party) need to claim over 50,000 quid in expenses?
Am I corrrect in believing that the tax position of MP's i anomalous. Something like taxed as self employed but pay NI as employed - can't remember details - worth checking up on
Tony Coles (disgusted Grange over Sands)
Guido, when a new MP takes over a seat it is always useful to compare the spending of the two incumbents. When Tim Collins was MP for Westmoreland his spending in his last full year was 129k and he was 209th in the list. Indeed, 209th was high for him, as back in 2002/3 he was 515th.
Along comes Tim Farron in the same seat and he leaps to 5th place in his first full year, with expenses 43k higher. Why the massive stationery bill? Why a postage bill of over 17k? Did he write to every constituent and should some of this cost have been borne by his Party?
Interesting to see that Derek Conway is 229th on the list of staffing costs at £86,439... so, if Conway was effectively claiming two sets of salaries (one for his family, one for those actually doing the work), what does that say about the 228 on the list claiming more than him?
Anon @ 9.02
You are spot on. These amoral, unemployable turds have sneaked in state-funding for political parties by stealth. The benefits of incumbency at the local leevl are also huge, as sanctimonious leftists cannot envisage that a reasonable person might not want to subsidise their fantasy world.
Check out Andrew Rosindell's claims. He lives in his constituency of Romford in Greater London yet has one of the highest claims towards a second home of any London based MP. James Brokenshire who sits for neighbouring Hornchurch doesn't feel the need to have a hideaway outside his constituency (and neither did his Labour predecessor John Cryer, come to think of it Eileen Gordon, Rosindell's predecessor commuted as well). London MPs do not need second homes in London.
Guido we need you to investigate why Mr Rosindell needs his central London flat
And on the subject of MPs expenses, I have been studying the claims of the almost invisible member for Finchley and Golders Green Rudi Vis.
Although the constituency is only seven miles from Westminster, he claimed £17,000 last year for “additional costs” of staying near Westminster, but also racked up over 14,000 miles in care mileage. This implies that he made four round trips to his constituency per day Monday to Friday for a whole year, and given average traffic speeds in London of 10mph he would have spent six hours a day in his car. No wonder his voting record and contributions to debates were recorded by theyworkforyou.com as “below average”. It must be a hard life.
Or could there, perhaps, have been an inadvertent error in the claim
GORDON Brown today gives Britain his personal guarantee he will save the nation from financial meltdown.
So It's true that Darling is the dummy and Brown the ventriloquist with his arm up Darling's bum.
Ian Taylor, the MP for Esher and Walton (20 mins rail travel from Waterloo) claims the full £22,110 second home allowance.
Any suggestion on how I find out my MP's home address?
Dennis Skinner employs his partner as his pa - he's not that clean.
Isn't Rudi Vis a pornstar in low budget California f**k films? No wonder his additional costs allowance is so high. Viagra's expensive, even in bulk.
Out of interest, I was living not far from Vis. And coincidentally, for the past year, I've been working in Westminster & driving there daily. Believe me that's a lot of driving. As much as three hours a day. I've just had the car MOT'd & I've done less than 6000 miles. To do 14000 living & working in the London area I'd have to be moonlighting as a minicab driver. You don't know if Rudi does airports do you?
Breaking News.
The UK banking crisis intensifies as HBOS (Halifax Bank of Scotland)were briefly suspended this morning after falling 17%. Trading has resumed with the shares 10% down.
Guido - Ta for dropping the moderation.
As others have said, the prospect of Mr Bean saving us all from financial meltdown by persuading us to rack up even greater debts by rushing out to buy high-street tat, is laughable. Yeah, the monkey, Darling, must be fuming after the organ-grinder showed his true colours.
If only the Tories had somebody genuinely more credible than Osbourne...
Persuade Vince to jump ship?
Probably fair to excuse David Mundell too if you're going to excuse the Nats - his is a Scottish constituency.
Probably explains why he would want his main home in London too...
In an exclusive article for The Sun the Premier says he feels the pain of hard-working families coping with soaring household bills.
You just could not make this shit up.
Bizarre...
Brown will feel the pain from hard working families coping with soaring household bills, when they stop returning NuLab MPs and councillors.
Bogeyman
If you wanta breakdown of central and local government spending, have a look at tables 5.4 and 5.5 on the following.
This is a chapter from PESA 2007, from the Treasury. The 2008 version should be out soon.
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/4/8/pesa07_chapter5.pdf
Sadly I have to agree with some of the other commenters here, Guido. Letting the SNP off on account of their necessary travelling may be valid. But then one would also have to accept that many Labour MPs represent northern constituencies almost equally far from Westminster.
A sad slip that undermines an otherwise interesting report that could cause certain members deep embarassment (if they had the capacity to feel shame, that is).
... if only all this intellectual effort that is being put into 'creative accounting' with the expense claims could be turned upon the legislation presented to the house... Dream on.
The Working Poor said...
Anon @ 9.02
"You are spot on. These amoral, unemployable turds have sneaked in state-funding for political parties by stealth"
Mr WP, if you feel like wasting a half hour of life, pop over to the execrable Telegraph blogs, and look at the brain-dead government propaganda churned out by three paid ZaNuLab trolls, calling themselves Hazel Tree, David Dee, and Quietzapple (who is certifiable).
It is my belief that it is against the law for the taxpayer to pick up the salaries for this kind of operation (they are putting in a full day), and the leader of the pack, Ms Tree stubbornly ignores any questions on the matter.
State funding for political parties by stealth? - hardly, the cunts have got more front than Blackpool.
Actually Guido, by your article it looks like the SNP have managed a quite impressive fiddle, and are claiming for 9 MPs when they've only got 6! Either that or you've got your numbers wrong again....
At least some congratulations to Adam Holloway MP for Gravesham who claimed on 33% of the average MP's take to give him lowest total cost.
Interestingly of the 30 MP's with the lowest claims 21 are Conservatives, 7 Labour, one Independent and 1 DU. Of the 30 MP's with the highest claims 20 are Labour, 6 LibDem, 3 SNP and only 1 Conservative (with a Scottish seat).
If one look only at staffing and admin costs the top 30 spenders are 25 Labour, 4 LibDem and 1 SNP. The lowest psenders as 15 Conservative, 12 Labour, 2 Independents and 1 DU.
Where is the value for money?
Quietzapple (who is certifiable).
I've had the misfortune to see some of his demented rantings. I rather got the impression he was Poisonous Kevin/Dirty European Socialist, late of this very blog.
I remember, from way back in the Pleistocene Era when I were nobbut a lad, the old adage that "Tory scandals are usually about sex, while Labour scandals are usually about money".
It doesn't surprise me in the least that the biggest snouts in the trough are on the left. 'Twas ever thus. It's all right for them, you see, because they represent the noble working classes instead of the evil capitalist bosses.
Chancellor Alistair Darling says he is looking at ways of guaranteeing people's savings held by a bank or building society up to £100,000.
This was in SEPTEMBER 2007.
Nothing done so far.
I live in Yorkshire but am have been working in Oxfordhsire.
I asked my company to buy me a house down there, (which would be mine) I then asked for 30 grand a year travelling expenses, 20 grand postage costs, 10 grand for a kitchen in my new house, and the pick of John lewis catalogue.
They pissed themselves laughing, then sacked me on the spot!
W.W.
The Working Poor said...
"How many MPs would find a senior position in the private sector ...? If Hazel Blears, Tessa Jowell or Nick Clegg worked for Morrisons, does anyone believe they would rise to the level of store manager?"
I can imagine:
David Cameron as a used-car salesman (Jags and BMWs of course).
Gideon Osborne as a wallpaper salesman (oops ... he was one).
Haigh as a beer deliveryman (oops again).
David Davis as a double glazing salesman.
Liam Fox as a golf caddy.
Michael Gove as a primary school teacher.
David Willetts as the school caretaker.
Theresa May as a dinner lady.
Theresa Villiers on the game.
Alan Duncan supervising the Gents.
They would all be better occupied than they are at present.
MisterE said...
"Interesting to see that Derek Conway is 229th on the list of staffing costs at £86,439...
so, ... what does that say about the 228 on the list claiming more than him?"
Nothing really. The point about Conway was that he was fraudulently paying his son for doing virtually nothing. The vast majority of the MPs are paying for staff who actually do some work.
Guido, your numbers seem a bit out. Of the top 50 MPs 37 (74%) at NuLab, 9 (18%) are LibDem and 1 is a Tory - a total of 47. You then say 9 are SNP MPs - that would be a total of 55 and they only have 6 MPs anyway!
Secondly, your graciousness to the SNP seems misplaced. As others have said this is unfair to all Scottish MPs and those with Northern seats. Also none of the NI MPs who obviously travel just as far are in the top 50. Seems that the DUP can keep MPs spending in line (just not Paisley junior!)
Thirdly Bogeyman talks of this 'we' who are keeping the Scottish, Irish and Welsh afloat but fails to realise they are all part of the 'we'. To a large extent they are getting back what they put in. A genuine debate on what these areas contribute or cost would be interesting but not with someone as inept as Bogeymen.
Anonymous said...
"Dennis Skinner employs his partner as his pa - he's not that clean."
Perfectly legitimate providing his partner is actually doing the work to justify the pay.
Anon 11:46.
Typical of your kind sneering at people who have done proper jobs.
Remind me what has Gordon Brown ever done, or any of the Labour front bench.
Because I wouldn't employ anyone of them to wash my car.
On the news up here yesterday, the local police authority (Labour run) have anounced they are sacking 300 (yes 300) Police officers, but they are saying this will enable them to put more Police on the beat!!
On the same principle I am going to chop both my legs off, as this will enable me to run the 100 metres in under 10 seconds!
W.W.
Interesting tables there, Acorn. I must admit, "the regions", as they are known, are not itemised separately so it's hard to see where the Telegraph gets the figure. But the costs must be lurking in there somewhere.
One of several figures that stood out in the government chart was "incapacity, disability and injury" benefits at £26bn. Are we really so crippled as a nation?
Dave won't like this.
Guido's cojones are getting bigger!
LAST EXIT TO DOWNING STREET
Screeching queens, ladymen and big Jock Nancies reducing each other to tears in Downing Street, that's the presbyterianism we know and love, more please.
That's Britishness, you bitch. That's mah vaaahl-ewes, learned from mah Da, up in Heaven. That's mah vision and the British people will judge me on mah vision for them. Never mind them all being thrown oot a their hooses, living in cardboard boxes, begging crumbs from Russian gangsters, gunned down by Ian Bendover's Community Pacification Units. Never mind them having their ID tattooed on their heids, never mind their weans being criminalised in the womb; never mind me confiscating their savings to give to the bankers. Never mind me jailing the coroners. It's values that count. And visions. And my vision is for a country where the prime minister's bitches, Mr Livermore, do exactly as they're told.
And ye cannae have a country like that without a properly resourced legislature. To this end I am proposing that under new anti-terrorism legislation no-one can know how much MPs earn, if that's the right word, nor how much they rightly claim in very necessary expenses. This is information which could be helpful to enemies within and without, but mostly within and gay members on all sides of the hoose will vote for its rapid passage, so to speak, and then get back to implementing my vision for a gay Britain. A public information team consisting of the cheap slag, Mr Stephen Pound, will tour the Newswank studio explaining to mah guid friend, Mr Wark, how it is best for all the important men in the country to be gay. It may take some time but under my permanent leadership we will stamp out the scourge of heterosexuality which so disfigures our society. Some puir men, I understand even going through the ritual of a sham marriage to a horrible female in order to gain acceptance. I love you all. But the men and the schoolchildren especially.
No wonder the country's bleeding, gang-fucked up the arse, eh, by criminal degenerates? Is it really true that at the centre of government one misshapen, phony, snot-eating, old queen - representing the country - takes serious advice from a screaming pansy who bursts into tears when he gets a bollocking? If this is true then the hundred best outgays, worshipped in the Guardian for their wit and industry and, knowing Michael Kneepads White, their yummy cocks, had all better jump back in the closet, in case a big, one-eyed butch Jock monster comes along on his rocking horse and shouts at them. Sing, lads, if you're glad to be gay.
Talking of butch boys, former long-term unemployed Geordie pothead, Alan Milburn, bizarrely a former health secretary, now employed full-time by PharmaCorp, turned up in the house the other day, to speak to the budget, just as though he was a proper MP and not an infamous public sector whore. Sat there with his feet up on the benches, setting a good example to yoof, Milburn espoused his get-rich-quick socialist values; everybody, it seems, can fiddle their expenses, lie about their "marriage" and then flog off contacts they made while in public service. All you gotta do, bonny lad, is join the NewLabour GayBullyboy tendency - founders Peter Brazilianson, Alistair depressed about his sexuality Campbell, Miranda Blair and Nancy Brown - and become aspirational (trans: a spiv, a greedy bastard; a lowlife; Alan Milburn; Toilets Maguire; HM Government etc., ad nauseum)
Don't know if Mr Milburn ever worked or if his cv is like the Earl Kinnock's, a bit of rabble-rousing lecturing at the WEA, a period in a bookshop and then the golden bonds of harsh servitude in the workers' party, shitting in the faces of the poor while drinking champagne and snorting coke but looking at this vain, smug, greedy Geordie tosser, sprawling all over the green benches of our legislature - as if to say he'd scratch Gordon's eyes out - one thought, not for the first time, Up against the wall, motherfucker.
Government by bullying, tantrum, conspiracy, money-laundering, fraud, theft, corruption, deception, blackmail and hissy fit. Is it any worse to be shafted by a closet gay mafia than a straight one ? it would be nice to find out; eleven years of vicious, simpering, I couldn't do anything wrong, dishonest, backstabbing queenery is more than any country should tolerate. Come out Gordon, you horrible snot-eating freak and bring your gang of sinecured hysterics with you.
You cite Cervical White's apologist stand and you are absolutely right.
Bastards like Cervical chomp from the same trough as their political masters and that's what gives them such big fiscal bellies.
BUT (and this is where their wekness lies), they are the soft underbelly of the political classes as they do not have the same self-voted protection as them.
So. all you co-conpirators out there, dish the dirt on Cervical White, Andrew not-quite-par, and all those other turds who only survive in the flatulent slipstream of their corrupt masters.
Up and at 'em - by exposing Cervical and his ghastly ilk as yet more on-the-make zillionaire commentaire socialists (surely an oxymoron, the what little credibility the bastards have left evaporates and leaves the true MP onanists exposed.
Ah, if only Stanislav could apply his Stillson to McBean's member, that would be one less noxious drip.
i looked at the telegraph bos pages.....it really is quite sickening that there are no doubt users that are spouting govt propaganda..what a terrible country we live in now...how odd that all of the govt, councils, civil servants etc have forgotten that WE pay their salaries and they work for US!!!!!!time to refuse to pay income tax i feel!!!
bofl
Very interesting Guido MP's claiming travelling expenses for travel to work (especially those in the London area) on the incomes that MP's have yet they insist that someone that is looking for work must take a job, if offered, within a 1 hour travelling time by public transport or 11/2 hours if own transport on a possible basic marvellous basic national minimum wage not subsidised by the tax payer
this is a bit harsh on MPs with a lot of travelling to do, even Rossendale is a long way from westminster.
the real scandal is the outer London MPs [they have higher allowances than inner London] who do little, have several houses in the area and massive transport costs.
of my local MPs Joan Ryan seems very high on the expenses list despite contributing very little to society.
and Andy Love (edmonton) went on record in the local paper complaining about the stick he got for 10,000s of hotel costs - after all he couldn't be expected to commute in to London on the tube like every other f**ker in his constituency.
MEPs seem to be just as fraudulent as MPs and they cost us a lot more. Since we should not be in the fraudulent EU any way, we could save the entire amount spent on MEPs as well as the danegeld we send to Brussels.
If I were an MP Rail travel .
M/C to London .
Monday 7.30am
cost £72.40 (first class booked in advance)
230 days sittings in the House of Commons
33 times£72.40=£2389.2
Returning on Friday at 6.0pm to M/C
---------------------------------------------------
Looking after the taxpayer.
Nice to see that other NuLab greedy cunt team of Ann and Alan Keen claiming £38,515 for away from home expenses. The two dozy cunts are London MPs, we are just paying for a nice little pied a terre for these couple of cunts. These people should be exposed and persecuted, they do fuck all, serve no purpose and are 100% dispensible.
I once wrote to Ann Keen but the stupid cunt couldn't be arsed to reply because no doubt she can neither read nor write.
We enter this latest period of uncertainty more stable and more resilient than at any other time in our history.
So please bloggers stop nit-picking about donations and expenses, filthy hospitals and sub-standard education, escalating prices and higher taxation, protracted needless wars and equipement shortages, recession and repossesion, immigration and refuse collection.
Stop it now, all of it.
My dear father knows my vision is right. Tell them so what? says he.
My word is my bond, my bond is my word, send me your huddled masses, I'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz.
Loopy? Me? No, ask any of my cabinet of goats. Fine stout intellectual fellows one and all.
Rockety-rock, rockety-rock, rockety-rock.............
Too lazy to correct Mr Michale Foster
Average spend / MP: £134,301
Max: £155,031
Min: £107,610
Av spend / MP by party
SNP: £155,031
PC: £146,069
SDLP: £142,015
Worcs., Mr Michael : £141,990
Lab/Co-op: £141,807
LD: £141,570
Lab: £137,756
UU: £136,651
DCWM: £135,683
Ind Con: £135,356
Ind Lab: £134,408
SF: £134,175
DU: £133,312
SPK: £131,242
Con: £129,709
Ind: £120,640
CWM: £112,401
Respect: £107,610
Dear Mr Drinkapintapissaday
In the wretched, holier than thou Guardian, in the late 1990s, Polly Mascara berated "left wing socialist millionaires" for not starting-up a proper left-wing newspaper; presumably to employ her good self and her friends Kneepads and Toilets.
Around the same time Dominic Daddy's Boy Lawson, then editor of the Sunday Trannygraph banned his "journalists" from using the word "millionaire" on the grounds that "now, we are all millionaires."
So, you see, Mr drinkapintapissaday, this is not new. Once, not very long ago, newspapers had "our reporter" or "our correspondent" or "a Daily Globe writer:" now every illiterate, empty-headed, gossipy cocksucker gets a by-line, many of then get their own kneeling spots in the Lobby. And in Michael White's case, elsewhere, in more intimate if less salubrious locations.
Andrew Buy My Book, Servants Of The People Rawnsley of the BBC and the Observer is one of the most worthless, inept, partisan, utterly useless, contemptible, overdressed, overpaid pricks in Fleet St, yet he is widely respected, his bits of unattributable gossip and tittle tattle valued by clowns like Rusbridger, valued to the tune of hundreds of thousands of pounds a year. Fatboy Lawson was right, it's not just the cunt Kneepads White - although his own personal vileness does distinguish him - but the whole rotten pack, they are all millionaires now, massive media expansion giving lucrative work to the ghastliest Fleet Street sewer dweller.
The leader of the pack, Jock Neil, the BBC's Mr Politics, is so fabulously wealthy from his days as Mr Murdoch's bitch, at Wapping and in New York, that he need never work again, yet cannot keep his smug, smirking, cheesy face off the telly. Thalidomide was a long time ago, Jock, you should fuck off out of it you ghastly old whore. Go dancing with teenagers, like you do.
Guido describes this rank menage as the political-media nexus which governs us and rightly chastises Kneepads White for his insistence that all is well, really. Those interested in journalistic fellatio should scan the back catalogue of Ian McWhirter of the Jock Herald, he is the Master, knows all the bent Jock politicos personally and they are all in it only to make things better for us; Jock BBC loves McWhirter. The thing to do is not read them and definitely not buy them and not pay a TV tax to fund Diane Abbott's Caribbean holidays.
There is better analysis, sharper wit, weightier scholarship and far more honesty to be found with a mouse-click than will ever be gleaned from the dead tree press. Fuck the 'papers, only put your head in a bad place.
love from stanislav
ps Lord Guido
"....transparent fiddles which may be legal, but are right."
fed up with plumbing now, if that sub-ed's job is still going stanislav is cheap4cash
Would have thought the Lib Dem MPs for Orkney & Shetland and probably also the Highland seats deserve the same exemption as the SNP on travel costs....
Can't we just put these thieving bastards onto a standard Civil Service grade of pay. After all its not exactly as if their various "Advisors" are not already on various CS pay grades.
That way their expenses would be subject to much greater scrutiny (we would undoubtedly have entirely new department set up to handle just that) and in addition they wouldn't be able to hand out colossal pay awards to themselves without also offering that percentage increase to other civil servants as well.
Andrew Neil of the Daily Politics fame was mentioned earlier. Can somebody explain what has happened to Jenny Scott recently that she has such a serene smile on her face? Whereas Jo Coburn clearly has designs on her position - a 'lean and hungry look'.
Guido, my lad.
God bless your three-leaf clovers, little fellows at the end of the rainbow milarky, isn't the welcome in the Emerald Isles far far better than in the hillsides ect ect.
Stanislav is cheap4cash, but I am as cheap as chips....and tanned...and simply ooze style...and I as bent as a nine-bob note.
yours - I'll be your bargain hunter.
Labour fiddle their expenses the most?
SO WHAT?
You know what? I don't much care what they are payed as long as they do a jood job.
When I buy a shirt from M&S it's of no interest to me what the store manager earns, if it's a decent shirt at a reasonable price.
Nor would I be bothered what the Chief Exec of my local council is pulling if they provided a fantastic service.
So why not concentrate on what the bastards are - and are not - doing instead of grinding on about what they earn? It stinks of jealousy to me.
Save plastic bags. On hearing the news that the PM is going to save us from financial melt-down, may I be the first to recycle the line:
"I wasn't worried until Teddy Kennedy offered us a lift home."
Mr Wordsworth,
Perhaps you should Google "Oscar Pistorius" before making threats of self harm. I don't think the South African sprinter chopped his legs off by design, but he has been banned from the Peking Olympics because his false legs give him an unfair advantage over "normally abled runners" (apparently).
I agree with your point though. Absolute madness!
I met Anne Keen once with her moronic huband who is a total dickhead. They are both money grabbing cunts.
Julien,
I hate to quibble with a well reasoned argument, but I fear the immediate result of linking MPs pay to snivel service pay, would be a sudden and dramatic increase in snivel servant pay !
georgesoros ... they don't f****** earn it, that's the point! They just rip it off from the taxes, it is fraud! They get paid a salary and then cream off all kinds of contrived expenses ... to be honest, if you can't comprehend that simple point you really should get back to something simple like reading a comic, not display your ignorance on Guido's comments :-)
@ stanislav 12:28
Re Militwat, seems you're a bit of a seer on the side. Have none of these parasites ever worked\lived in the real world?
From Wiki
"Milburn was born in the village of Tow Law in County Durham, England and grew up in Newcastle-upon-Tyne where he attended John Marley School and Stokesley Comprehensive School (Stokesley School is not located in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, but about 8 miles from the suburbs of Middlesbrough and on the border between Cleveland and North Yorkshire). He is from a working class background.
He went on to Lancaster University, where he is reported to have been a supporter of Leon Trotsky's ideas. After leaving university, he returned to Newcastle where, with Martin Spence, he operated a small radical bookshop in the Westgate Road, called Days of Hope (the shop was given the spoonerised nickname Haze of Dope).[citation needed] From there he worked as a co-ordinator at the Trade Union Studies Information Unit.
From 1988, Milburn co-ordinated a campaign to defend shipbuilding in Sunderland, and was elected as Chairman of Newcastle-upon-Tyne Central Constituency Labour Party. In 1990 he was appointed as a Business Development Officer for North Tyneside Borough Council and elected as President of the North East Region of the MSF Trade Union. Meanwhile, he won the seat of Darlington in the 1992 general election."
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Read an article by Daniel Finkelstein in the Times about MPs' expenses:
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article3578529.ece
I haven't read anything so shit since I last read toilets maguires blog. The guy is a fucking raving lunatic, lock him up with toilets and snotty, hopefully they will bum each other to oblivion!
@ 70's reject
Daniel Finkelstein is in the toilets and knee-pads class.
But read the comments.
Every one against his view.
My favourite:
We may pay them but they don't work for us. They do not work for the nation either. They work for their party, in the main, and for their own internal system in which they are professionals. That is the nub of the disgust many people feel for them. To say that only one or two are at fault is disingenuous. They do what they are told here so that they can later do what they are told in Brussels. I wish I had such a job with such pension prospects, but then I have to work for a living.
Findlay, Lanark,
First item on this by Bogeyman absolutely ace . Sez it all . The celtic parasites really get up my nose .
as a start to getting parliamentary expenses under control .....get shot of these sanctimonious leeches.
mr finkelstien seems to off world in that article .
but WW post , just what have some of these mps done , that give then the right to put most homeowners into recievership. Stan has a point in describing whole system as some sort of basic perversion or even fake expensive goverment the need for which is created by its self.
pmqs review
the most startling aspect was cleggs support of the gurkahs , since when have they become the party of open praising and supporting the armed forces , they are useually the "no to war" party.although it was noticeable that mr speaker cut into his attack with an order request.
gordon senseing his pr disater earlier in the week by not supporting the dali lama was quick to ward of camerons attack, but not quick enough. I hope the dali lama offers gordon ancient ritual single glass of yaks piss when they meetso he can toast the oppressed.
cameron had a good dig at balls not speaking , he looked well angry and seemed to emitt a samll currant turd onto the green commons leather.
gordon huffed another none answer , camerons "call that election and you can ask me six questions a week " was classy .
however question from back bench labour on bio fuels was signalling rebellion , nearly every scientist going is saying its a bad idea so quite why gordon his putting his head in a bucket and going ahead is more to do with with labour friends i think branstons been on about bio fuel for his trains .
overall hes not cutting it with the public nor does he get any respect in the house. he appears to be losing badly at roulette and has broken the bank , but then again he always did think that things that revolve were for ever.
keep going gordon , its nearly time for the "dead party sketch" or are to believe "its just resting".Only the communists left now one by one silver bullits .
what a lying fake offer you have made to the british public , as good governance, how to completely wreck a country. Whats your new advisors favourite book "the compelling force of leaderless organisations" ill put that one on the fire with courage .
call that election , its a mess and your a disgrace (vice versa)
70's Reject [4.53]
Just read the same article - utter tosh - Daniel Finkelstein, you are really Lady Michael White and I claim my prize etc. etc. Zzzzzzzzzzz..............
More shit flying in the financial sector. The Telegraph reports that today's HBOS slump was caused by city slickers deliberately starting a rumour that the bank was in trouble. It's a trick to make money out of a depression by short-selling the bank's shares.
What with parasites like these and Labour arseholes running the show, things are not looking up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/19/bcnrumour219.xml
All but 88 million quid! Dominated by 53 mils for the Wives & Kids Scam. (Add 13 mils extra for the Office Expenses Scam.) 66 mils for running offices for 640-odd wasters = oh, call it 100k each, shall we, boys?
I can't be bothered even thinking about the 11 mils for the Pretending to Stay Away From Home Scam. Another couple of mils here and there and you have the size of it.
Nice flat graph BTW. I wonder what that could mean. Good job I've never done any stats or I'd smell a rat. "130-odd grand, dear boy, before anyone will notice. Mum's the word, eh?"
If Gordon is so concerned about the Nation's economic pain, why doesn't he dump his second home expense claims?
I thought number 10 Downing street and the Chequers country "house" and all that they cost to upkeep and run came totally free to him courtesy of the financially pained taxpayer!!
I see snotty is using tho old national security threat to scare the proles again they tried this rubbish before and it didn't work but this time with web access wow!! I will check that out every day.Is this the brown tainted vision or some cokehead spad having a laugh?
y the fuck do you badtards (mr brown) keep on fucking with the water and gas prices it has caused me to go bankrupt and lose my house its also caused me to split up with my girlfriend and im spending £60 to release the pressure but fuck that you bastards fucked my future
mitch
ime not quite sure on snottys security iniative , could be talking shop or a planning meeting. risk future threats , an election for nu labour looks like a threat !!.
also labour are going on an internet initiative called "your space" , which i have nicknamed "arse space" as it will no doubt be dark , sweaty and smelly and surprising you with yet another brown turd.
its one of broons new pr V weapons sort of bob hoskins saying "its good to talk" but with a more dictator listening to peasants (who are revolting literally) and a manicured broon , so as not scare the yoof of today away .
its all buzz at lab HQ , my advice is dont visit it , it could be a celebration that there arnt any problems in the uk by evanomics and endorsed by ant and dec and beckingham palace.(some one whispered it was very expensive so i hope no tax payer money has been used)
Trust me the biggest threat to the Uk is 5 more years of snotty and his band of failed councilors and college lectures venting their individual and group neurosis on the poor tax payers.Their experiment to see just how fucked up a country can become before the Pm does the tyburn jig.We have seen gordons vision and we like it not.
Time to leave the closet snotty and take Mr "SO WHAT" and his hag with you back to the shithole you crawled from.Oh and those voices you hear ..thats not daddy its you your fuckin MAD!!!
worse and worse.
gordon brown is a fucking liability for the labour party and now we learn he has been at the old expense trick aswell!
just as an aside; if this house allowance is payable yearly, don't tell me these cunts are claiming for a new tv and everything else every year. are they selling them on for fucks sake?
I am sorry to say we have a rotten parliament. gordon brown and his cronies are not the people to get us out of the shit they got us into.
cheeky, useless cunts.
note to self: begin distribution of silver bullets. the zombies' hunger for flesh seems endless.
also distribute crucifixes and garlic for protection against the vampire ones like brown and blair, des browne, the milliband spastics, 'sweaty' ed balls and jack the spac straw.
you fucking vampires!
the list has now been completed and I suggest despatchment of zombies and vampires should begin immediately. I think it only fair and correct that we prioritise the eradication of the vampires because they are the ringleaders and main cause of the blood sucking.
Since the sub editor position remains unfilled, Stanislav would just like to remind friends that Toilets Maguire is proper fucking noun and not fucking pronoun and is same shit with Lady Sir Michael Kneepads White; is big K and not little fucking K.
Best we all have good fucking grammar and proper fucking manners in honour of poor silly cow, Miss Chris Paul, come in here from desperate, bitter loneliness next door in deserted cardy world with silly old trout Mrs Dale. Never know, is maybe tory selection committee looking in and make Stanislav offer he cannot refuse, couldn't be no worse than Mrs Dale, simpering hypocrite.
Why, incidentally, mates, is more fucking deprivation ? Is because of useless ganshite thieving bastard like Alan Milburn and Sex Beast Lardman Prescott and Earl Kinnock and grotty thieving shitbag Mrs and revolting hypocrite bastard Abbott and maniac snot-eating crooked old queen, all telling poor stupid fuckers in constituency that only escape from poverty is vote for fucking thieving degenerate cocksucking nancyboy party and spend whole lifetime having them shit in your face. Innit. Dear chap.
Nice girl like Miss Paul should marry nice bloke and settle down. Out of her depth with politics. Best not go out on dark night and encounter Mr 45 Govt and his mighty weapon. That's for sure.
It's the latest game in town - bust a bank in five days! Bare Stains went from $17billion liquidity "our balance sheet is strong" on Monday to "buddy can you spare us a dime?" by Friday, in a frenzy of withdrawals by hedge funds on the back of rumours. Why not try it with HMG - I would love to short them all. Keep the rumour mill going, stir up the blogs, and stay five steps ahead of their PR wonks. This is the real revolution!!!
When something obviously silly is happening one can come to two conclusions.
Either it is incompetence, stupidity and ignorance at play. On the level of a kids playground.
Or
Highly organized most top level conspiracy.
When big money highly intelligent and powerful people are involved. I beg people to consider that it is ALWAYS conspiracy.
If it seems that corruption and the exposure of such could be a deliberate conspiratorial policy to undermine our confidence in our own ability to govern ourselves. While also fucking up our own currency.
Then please at least start to think that it very well could be exactly that.
Yours, not beings at all paranoid, but very realistic and practical indeed.
Atlas shrugged
Did I dream the whole "dear chap" thing on here last night?
Or have you purged him (and anyone who replied to him) from the comments?
Forgot to get the link to his blog so I could abuse him again today. Paul someone, wasn't it? From Liverpool?
Silas, I too had that very same dream.
Guido's blog is private property. I dare say he wanted to remove the unpolished and malodourous turds left upon the welcome carpet.
Guido IS winning, he has them rattled. Anyone giving snotty an easy run should be lambasted and their name added to the list.
House repossessed? Cannot afford heat? Poor education? Waiting for an operation? Post office closing? No bullets? Crippled by taxation? Business folding? Lost your job? Lost your pension?
Who is to blaim?
when are you english going to find your own leaders? I'm sick of subsidising you cunts.
Bogeyman you sad piece of shit , Scotland would be in surplus if we did not have to keep lazy good for nothing arseholes like you. Obviously you have had little or no education and could not pick Scotland out on a map. Crawl back into your hole.
About time someone analysed the away from home costs according to the public transport travelling time from Westminster. There are MPs from the Home Counties (remember them?) who claim the maximum. Meanwhile their constituents enjoy the commuting experience provided by our beloved leaders
Chris paul is the man your after silas. Its on Stanislav comment 10:38pm.
Funny how that comment wasn't deleted, are Stanislav and Guido one and the same 'cos everyone else with reference to said tosser got deleted!
Funny how that comment wasn't deleted?
Stanislav IS the master, that's why.
Don't upset Stan4U&cheap4cash, we may end up with hazel tree and sadapple here.
Chris Paul! That's the badger. Ta!
I'm going to go bother him now.
don't know, but knows a man that does said:
'' Funny how that comment wasn't deleted?
Stanislav IS the master, that's why.
Don't upset Stan4U&cheap4cash, we may end up with hazel tree and sadapple here.''
OK OK, I get the message, Stans the man and i'm the floater that needs to be flushed!
Sewer here I come!
Anonycunt @1,37 informs the excellent bogeyman thusly:-
"Obviously you have had little or no education and could not pick Scotland out on a map".
Why the fuck would he or anyone else want to you cunt? Scotchland is full of thieving, cross-dressing, wife-beating, kiddie-fiddling, projectile-vomiting benefit junkies - its greatest exports, the Gay Rocking Horse Rider, Dearheart, Bendy, deep-fried Mars Bars, a shedload of assorted kilted turds, and is a drain on the working part of the UK to a gazillion squid.
Surplus, you cretin? A surplus of claimants on the public purse is the ONLY thing Scotchland has produced this century, apart from a damn good Polish plumber.
Tell us Mr sensibly-anonymous, what part of cunt do you find hard to understand? I'm certain you have all the time in the world on your hands courtesy of the working South, do let us know. No rush.