Woolas Warns Against "Inbred Muslims"
Cryer Says Pakistanis Have "Medieval Culture"
In comments that sound like BNP propaganda, the Environment Minister Phil Woolas blamed immigrants from rural Pakistan for a rise in birth defect rates due to the inter-marriage of cousins. Researchers say that the NHS is seeing 9 times the rate of abnormalities from Pakistani children.Woolas got backing from Ann Cryer, Labour MP for Keighley, who described Pakistani culture as medieval. “This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family... If you go into a paediatric ward in Bradford or Keighley you will find more than half of the kids there are from the Asian community. Since Asians only represent 20%-30% of the population, you can see that they are over represented."
This may well all be true. If it had been pointed out by a Tory MP, Labour MPs would be screaming "racist". Muslims Pakistanis might jusifiably be feeling put upon currently...
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If anyone looks inbred it's that weird looking freak Phil Woolas.
OT More good stuff from Frank Field:
"....this week, Frank Field, the Labour MP, will highlight another area where Brown’s policies have failed. He will use the Allen Lane Foundation lecture to argue why the super-rich should give more to charity. But he will also deliver new figures showing that Brown’s “serious addiction” to tax credits has driven four out of five families into means-testing and created the “tragic” situation where half the workforce “knows there is no point in saving towards their retirement”.
Brown’s supporters will dismiss Field as a nonentity. But who will the public trust more?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/02/10/ccliam110.xml&page=3
They're just shit - scared of the white working - class vote moving to the BNP
Sounds like BNP propaganda Guido? Surely what matters is whether or not it is TRUE. We do want to work with facts don't we? If there is evidence showing this to be the case then it would be remiss not to say it.
You don't seem to like Ann Cryer's reference to "medival culture" - what term do you think we should use?
I think that the days of even Labour MP's screaming "racist" at everything they don't want to hear are passing - especially when they can see what is happening on the ground in their own constituencies as Ann Cryer can.
As someone who has no love at all for this government I would suggest that you do yourself a disservice with this post.
He has a fair point. The London Royal has seen a rise in birth defects for exactly that reason. It's not racism, just an observation of a trend.
One should note that the same was true, for example, in the rural Anglican population of Northern Ireland in the 60s - refusal the marry into the surrounding Catholic population lead to some very interesting family trees.
It's more a rural thing than a religious thing.
I think Woolas needs to decide which "elephant in the room" to shoot first!
Well, as far as i'm concerned I'm sick of hearing about Muslims this and Muslims that. I'll just continue to ignore the f'rs like the majority of people in the country. There will be SERIOUS riots ahead i suspect (by the Muslim populace)& when it happens could we white anglo-saxons take a leaf out of their book and stone those MP's who thought letting in millions of Muslims into the country was a good idea?
You should see what the in-breeding of new Labour voters has done to the intelligence of the voting UK population!
nu and even old labour have dominated this topic(race and immigration), mainly with the help of much of the media,they are the only party who can raise the subject,any other and they are condemned as racist.They smother reasonable debate.
Teeth like that and he has the nerve to talk about immigrants fom rural Pakistan inbreeding and causing birth defects.
If you can be called racist or homopobic etc. you can be made to feel guilty. You are "anti the ideal society" and so on.
The more guilt that you carry the more easily you can be manipulated.If you eat an apple whilst driving you are a danger on the road. If you drive at 35 mph after midnight through a village you should be locked up. If you carry a knife in you pocket you are out to kill.
So lets dream up hundred more of these silly laws and make every one feel suicidal with guilt.
Of course in terms of being related these small villages tend to have married relatives for many generations so the relationship in terms of genetics is closer than ‘cousins’.
rockfall: the protestants in N Ireland are in the main Nonconformists rather than Anglicans; a lot are Presbyterians.
Here is a bit of evidence: 'Parental consanguinity as a cause for increased incidence of births defects in a study of 238,942 consecutive births.' Stoll C et al., Ann Genet 1999: ' . . In the population studied in North-Eastern France a consanguineous mating was known in 1.21% of the cases with congenital anomalies, vs. 0.27% in controls . .' i.e. 5 times more likely. [PubMed] or, putting it another way, it takes an extra 100 cousin marriages to produce 1 extra congenital anomaly. Less obvious defects and lack of vigour are no doubt much more common but much harder to observe and measure reliably.
Bit more chlorine required in the Woolas gene pool I think.As for muzzies I could care less if they want to inbreed into extinction its a free(contary to nulab efforts)country. when we hear the sounds of banjos coming from mosques I will laugh like a drain.
"This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family..."
Chance would be a fine thing. If only our wealth did stay within the family, rather than going to other people's families via the sticky fingers of HM Robbery & Customs.
This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family...
Like our own snout-troughs....Derek Conway, Michael Martin, John Prescott etc....?
They invite huge amounts of muslims over and then attack them? Hmmmm; this is just how facsist governments work. The people of England were not asked if we wanted muslim immigration it was imposed on us and now the people who let them in are whinging? Makes me suspicious as to the real motives...The real question antway is what do we do with the traior class that got us in this mess for they are our real enemy. Deal with them and the problem ends. What has been the fate of traitors historically? A great purge and Nuremberg trial must be used to publically punish thes people for what they have done to our once beautiful country. The time is coming soon...
Can this be the same WoolArse who f*****d up Pensioner Phain's election campaign at GREAT EXPENSE to Tangoman?
The truth that dare not speak its name eh? islam is a primitive total control belief system. Its adherents do not believe all the issues we believe in eg free speech, freedom of religon, eqaulity of the sexes - I could go on but let's just say that the aspects of society we take for granted, such as oh not killing your daughter for going out with a bloke you dissaprove of are not compatible with islam.
By speaking out against this practice, I think these two MPs run the risk of being charged with treason
Good Morning Guido.
They think we are very stupid.
At a time when we should be focussing on Treaty/Constitution, unsound fiscal management and Fraud, MSM are manipulating THIS load of bollocks.
The blogosphere & YOU in particular are doing stirling work exposing their shenanigans and crimes.
I am looking forward (again) to the Monday re-launch - spring in step twaddle - governance by the incapable and a new pronouncement by cabinet, free guitar lessons for all primary schools by 2018.
I had a heavy liquid supper myself, so I know how it is, but your headline should have an extra S in Muslims.
Yours in admiration & thanks,
"Since Asians only represent 20%-30% of the population"
Not for long they wpon't. Any statisticians care to predict the percentile in say 15 years time at this rate?
It is culture, not colour or origin that is killing the country. It is not the make of car that kills, but the attitude of the driver.
What's BNP propaganda got to do with it?
This is obviously a serious problem both for the families and the state. No point in sweeping it under the carpet and if someone does spot it, calling it "propaganda".
They should stop the Westminster village inbreeding too.
"when we hear the sounds of banjos coming from mosques I will laugh like a drain."
Mitch, that is the funniest line I have read all week.
Tuscan Tony has a good point. I want to know at what point this country will have a Muslim majority. I suspect it will be during my childrens' lifetime.
The figures must be out there.
Come on be fair!
its a PRE-Medieval culture.
I went to a wedding in Norfolk once....... everyone sat on the same side of the church!
Hence, the notation found on medical notes a few generations ago, NFN (normal for Norfolk).
Its worth questioning the rational of allowing squillions of unnecessary people with dodgy religous practices, to remain in a totaly overcrowded island . At least as a first step the politicians could prohibit the practice of bringing over spouses chosen by granny for arranged mariages. Quite simply, the clan family willing to put up the most dowry payment , get a free meal card into the British system !
I appreciate your desire to attack the Labour Party, but unfortunately this is true.
My partner worked as a paediatrician in Blackburn for several years. Blackburn is a fantastic place to learn about a whole host of often incredibly rare genetic diseases, due to the uncommonly high prevalence of inbreeding in the Muslim community there.
Incidentally, Guido, you must be torn between your desire as a blogger to protect your rights to free speech (which would be severely curtailed should radical Islam get its way) and to bash Labour? I bet I know which side of the line you'd fall, when the chips were down...
“This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family” made me think about that well known Windsor family, Buck House, London
It isn't racist to tell the truth and this birth defects issue is a matter of fact.
It is though true that if a Tory had said it then there would be calls all across the left and their allies in the media for him/her to be beheaded, a move that would no doubt be supported by the Archbishop of Canterbury as "inevitable" and a move towards a genuinely multicultural society.
If you want to see inbreeding on an industrial scale look no further than our own dear Royal Family - the cunts.
I don't think Guido's trying to question whether this is true.
What is the problem is that if any Tory MP had said this, the whole of the Labour Party would have screamed "racist". I mean, Boris Johnson only has to use the word "piccaninny" in a column taking the piss out of Blair, and the Guardian's calling him the next best thing to the BNP. Whereas if you've been arselicking your way up the New Labour spivocracy for ten years you can call Muslims inbred but that's OK because the rosette's red.
Hypocritical c***s.
Sorry it's not sleazy or salacious. (Although boning your first cousin is a bit close to home.) I attended a Pakistani wedding in the north east 20 years ago, and the increase in birth defects was already being noticed talked about in the Asian community.
big ignorant f***er from Oldham - well, you said it, so it must be true.
Guido, bristol dirt bag is right, it's fact, so just because one of the bastard party who have encouraged it point it out, he should not be decried for that. If we had an opposition with cojones, they would have got there first, and to hell with the flak. The public knows what's what, and will, I think give credit to any pol who finally gets up the courage to mention the elephant in the room.
A Social Worker writes
Guys, guys, guys, we should not take it upon ourselves to criticise another culture that wishes to dispense its own cultural norms upon its persons of non male genetialal (women) by having sex with their own cousins/offspring, cutting their heads off and or raping them for failure to follow cutlural/societal norms for that culture.
Must dash, have to attend the single mum's dependency on welfare meeting to discuss issues relating to women's equality before the law and er...
What you've got to understand about Woolas is that he has faced a massive challenge to his majority from the BNP; this is simply him campaigning for the next election.
Somehow I doubt the Muslim population of his seat, Oldham East & Saddleworth, would be delighted to know what the married minister was up to with his secretary...
Rob's uncle said:
" putting it another way, it takes an extra 100 cousin marriages to produce 1 extra congenital anomaly"
This is only the case if each married couple only has one child. In practice, cultures which encourage cousin marriages also tend to encourage couples to have large families so the numbers of children born with recessive genetic disorders in such families is likely to be even greater than a mere comparison of congenital anomaly rates would suggest. Incidentally, I haven't looked at the study quoted but congenital anomaly rates are usually compiled from reports of defects which are observable at birth e.g.there is a gross anatomical defect.. Vast numbers of genetic disorders are not readily apparent at that time so the numbers are underestimates.
The recessive genes start becoming dominant after about 3 consecutive 1st cousin marraiges. I have seen this at first hand, during my work as a health visitor on a patch with many muslim residents. I think the nastiest was a little girl born with a "strawberry naevus" (birthmark) which occupied her entire face and head, and ultimately compromised her vision.
This may well all be true. If it had been pointed out by a Tory MP, Labour MPs would be screaming "racist". Muslims Pakistanis might jusifiably be feeling put upon currently...
Try asking Pakistani women and Pakistani children with birth defects how "put upon" they feel. The criticism is legitimate, but consanguineous marriage is just one of the Muslim bugbears that have been swept under the carpet for decades and are now coming home to roost.
Isn't the number of Pakistani children in wards more easily explained by the fact that Pakistani immigrants have a lot more children than the average? They may be only 30% of the population overall, but they could easily be more than 50% of the juvenile population.
Wasn't medieval Islam relatively enlightened compared to the modern fundamentalist versions?
The worst case of inbreeding I ever saw was a young man who attended my colleagues surgery. He had a red rash on his forehead. My colleague took a swab and sent it for analysis. The young man returned to get the results and my colleague told him he had a genetic defect and was growing a penis from his forehead.
The young man was obviously devastated. "How can I face my friends?", "How can I get a job?",
"How can I look in a mirror?"
My colleague said, by way of consolation, "That won't be a problem". "Really?" asked the patient "Why not?". My colleague replied, "With the bollocks hanging in front of your eyes you won't sbe able to see a thing!".
This inter-family marriage stuff owes nothing to Islam and all to Pakistani tribal politics and land-ownership.
The more enlightened (middle-class) Pakistani families here are beginning to recognise the dangers, which were apparent some years ago, but the health-professionals were too afraid to say anything.
Fuck in hell fire r kid, that woolas is one ugly bug eyed twat. All this talk of inbreeding, looks to me as though is mother showed his brother a bit to much love!
I have never found my third leg to be a problem. It's trying to work out which of my two penises needs a wee that confuses me. Sometimes I need a helping hand. Good job I've got the extra one.
Surely Woolas should be expelled for this disgraceful attack on Sadiq Khan. Isn't Woolas a friend of Morgan the Organ who is product of centuries of inbreeding in the valleys which has produced a race of midgets.
there are a lot of experts floating about today.
if there is a higher number of birth abnormalities and the researchers haven't misinterpreted their own research, then it is ofcourse necessary to find out why this is happening.
I'm sure those affected would be the first to want to know why such a high rate exists if indeed it does.
after the sharia law canard, I think we've had enough muslim bashing this week, don't you?
oh and what an ignorant racist bastard woolas is. stop fucking about phil, defect to the the bnp. that lot are right up your street. the nazi nick griffin would welcome a cunt like you with open arms!
When will Muslims take over the country and bring in sharia law?
All muslims aged 18-20 can potentially double their population in that furtile age group every year through bringing in a wife or husband from a foriegn land and this is very common, they could also bring in more than one wife if they so wish.
then you have to consider muslim birth rates that are around 3 times that of the indigenous Brits.
In London the non indigenous children now outnumber the indigenous children, indigenous British children are a minority in London.
so how many muslims are here?
10% of the prison population declare they are muslim.
so unless muslims are seriously more criminal than other groups the this would estimate the muslim population including illegals to be around 5 million or so.
if someone else would like to do the maths then be my guest.
then you have to consider a Muslim country like Turkey joining the EU which is what Labour are pushing for.
its very possible that many smaller EU countries could become muslim dominated states almost overnight if the EU got its way and these smaller countries could not or did not control their boarders - but surely to do so would be racist right?.
its all just easier to bury your head in the sand and shout down anyone bringing you informed facts by calling them Nazi etc.
Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
@tat 6.07 pm.
For fuck's sake, stop pussyfooting around, and get to the point.
the point was excellently illustrated by the bnp thug who contaminated this thread so quickly after me.
regardless of the topic the principle to reason is constant.
get your facts straight and don't talk bollocks.
in the thugs case, he is ignorant of the fact that the muslim population in this country is 2 million. it has increased by 350,000 in the last 20 years.
when you know your subject it becomes possible to make a reasonable assessment.
sorry if that doesn't answer the question to the world, the universe and everything but as socrates said, I'll show you two angles and if you can't work the third one out, tough shit!
pussyfooting about? cheeky cunt.
Thick as I don't know what, how do you know that the poster you refer to is a "BNP thug". Are all BNP supporters thugs in fact, or is this just your view? Have you ever considered that this government's policy of appeasement of minorities is driving ordinary, nice people to emigrate or support UKIP or BNP, and has worsened race relations very considerably?
Muslims and their actions and evident wish to establish their own state within Britain are a real concern to people, and the chance of achieving some reasonable debate is not helped by the chant of racist from whichever quarter it comes.
"In a time of universal deceit" made some very valid points. There are times when I read your comments and think, "he knows his stuff", and then you completely lose the plot with insane rants and attacks, which leads me to believe you are on something. So I think again, and come to the conclusion that you're either schizophrenic, or more likely, an utter cunt. Do calm down dear.
45 Govt. it might not be him.
'tis you who needs to calm down 45.
lynch mobs should be saved for the new labour fascists, agreed?
this is allegedly a democracy.
if a majority wish something to happen,so be it. whether or not I or you agree with that view is immaterial.
that's the price 45.
oh and the moniker 'universal deceit' was designed to deceive in order to disseminate. you know me, I can spot cunts a mile off and I assure you sir, universal is a bnp cunt. in answer to your question are all bnp members thugs, the answer is yes. why? because they are, despite their attempts to pretend otherwise, a social agitating fascist organisation. that means if they ever got into power the first thing they would do is pass an act to dissolve parliament. for that is what fascists do. as parliament includes the queen that makes them traitors to queen and country. wrapping themselves in the union jack is as convincing as new labour wrapping themselves in a social conscience.
I see them as anti democratic traitors 45.
if you question my premise that they are fascists then I believe you are being deceived by their propaganda.
their talk of helping british people is a lie, an excuse and attempt to create an aura of acceptability.
I am a loyal fellow. but we are where we are, so let us think about a way forward and not allow these people to muddy the waters.
that's all I'm saying 45.
"Try asking Pakistani women and Pakistani children with birth defects how 'put upon' they feel."
Exactly!
Why do some idiots out there think being liberal means automatically siding with the most conservative member of a minority group? Agreeing with a sexist, homophobic, anti-intellectual, immigrant pinhead is no more progressive than agreeing with a sexist, homophobic, anti-intellectual, locally-born pinhead.
"Muslims and their actions and evident wish to establish their own state within Britain are a real concern to people"
*Some* Muslims' actions are a real concern to people *including other Muslims.* For example, domestic violence. For another example, all the Muslims who don't want Sharia in the UK and fear that they won't get equal protection under British law if Sharia is an option for British family courts.
here's an interesting quote fronm the Office of National Statistics
"In 2006, when only those births that include the father’s details on the registration
are considered, 22 per cent of births were to mothers born outside the
United Kingdom and 15 per cent of births had both parents born outside
the United Kingdom. These two proportions indicate that for one-third of
foreign-born mothers, the child’s father was born in the United Kingdom."
Now I'm sure it's not all arranged marriages, but just how many arranged marriages are there per year?
thick as two short planks said
" the muslim population in this country is 2 million. it has increased by 350,000 in the last 20 years."
So that's it then - there are only 21% more muslims in the country than there were 20 years ago.
That is total fucking bullshit of the highest order.
Why is it always racist if an unpleasant truth relates to immigrants?
the increased no. of congenital disorders is more prevelant amongst pakistani muslims.
not "asians".
this is a lazy term fit for retards only. hindus, sihks have had ill will towards aggresive islamism for centuries. as ever its taken the "civilised" world a little longer to catch on. heads up
That "20 to 30% of the population" is a typo. The lying slimebags in the government tell us that the Pakistanis are 2 to 3% of the population. So take this to mean 4 to 5%, allowing for the lies.
On the other hand, they do represent 31% of the birth defects in the NHS through marrying their first cousins for generations after generations.
Cant we just be practical about this situation and make sure that any four legged babies are looked after well and turned into world class sprinters or perhaps the three armed babies could become opening bowlers for England, who knows perhpas those babies born with six eyes will tutn out to have great visions of our future?
And just what the fuck is wrong in pointing this out? The cross-party shower of shit currently infesting the Palace of Westminster are in dire need of a BNP-style wake-up call. Then they might, just might, start addressing the problems that REALLY concern the 99.99999999% of people who have to live outside the Westminster "village"
The Muslim population of the Bradford Metroplolitan District, of which Ann Cryer's Keighley constituency is part, is around 20% (it was 18.9% in the 2001 census). So given the high birth rate 30% of births in the district being to Muslims sounds about right. Recent figures released under the Freedom Of Information Act (and given prominence in the local Bradford paper, the Telegraph & Argus) show that 39% of children in Bradford's primary schools do not have English as a first language, though this figure includes large numbers of east European and other recent immigrants. Even taking this into account an approximate figure of 30% (say 28%) looks pretty accurate.
Apart from the other questions about Government social policy raised by these figures (such as why children born and brought up in this country start school with a poor or even no grasp of English), it shows that that Bradford, along with many other cities such as Birmingham and Leicester, are headed towards what in the US is called "Minority Majority" status, the high non-white birth rate exacerbated by "White Flight".
I grew up in the city in the 1970s and 80s, and virtually none of my friends and family live there any more, at least not in the city proper (pre 1974 boundaries). It's sad to see what's happened to Bradford, and compared to booming nearby Leeds (less than 5% Muslim)it's falling into dereliction - after all, who wants to open a business in Manningham (a predominately Asian area of the city) if it's going to be burned down in a riot like in 1995 or 2001? It's a warning to the rest of the country about what could happen if the high birthrate (boosted by continued immigration, largely in the form of arranged marriages from abroad - a UK born Muslim woman on average has 2.6 children, Pakistani born 4.8, compared to 1.6 outside this community) and complete lack of integration are not tackled by effective Government action.
Having seen some of the spurious statistics quoted earlier on this forum though I wouldn't be surprised if Brown and Co would have us believe that the Muslim population is actually falling - just like violent crime, in fact.
"Tuscan Tony has a good point. I want to know at what point this country will have a Muslim majority. I suspect it will be during my childrens' lifetime."
There are 2million Muslims in this country, with a birth-rate of 3.7 children per family. This corresponds to an increase in the Muslim population of 1.875x with each generation. With no further immigration of Muslims into the UK, the Muslim population will reach parity with the non-Muslim population within 6 generations - or about 180years. In practice it is likely to be much earlier than this due to the continuing large net immigration from Pakistan and Bangladesh.
It should be noted that indigineous British people will make up less than half the population by about 2090 at current growth rates, due to immigration from all sources. At this point the population will exceed 100million and will be the third most densely populated country on the planet, exceeded only by Pakistan and Bangladesh. About 2/3rds of the population will be dependent on food imports for their survival.
These extrapolations are based on the government's own figures available from the ONS.
Wouldn't it be nice if we were a single society today, so that when there is an issue, we didn't have to tiptoe around deciding whether it was acceptable to talk about it?
It is no secret that in many cities, special treatment centers have been said up to treat the "unique" diseases that the enrichers of our society suffer from.
The diseases they named were T.B, and AIDS. Theses centers also require full time interpreters to assist in the treatment of these newly arrived patients.
The cost for these clinics is met by cut backs in services to the native population.
I could provide links but it is all there for those who care enough to go and search in google.
As for the inbreeding, much of that
is brought about by forced marriages.
Ann Cryer is no P.C. spouting NuLab stooge.
She is a conviction politician and a straight-talking northern lass.
There is real mileage in the whole issue of arranged/forced/cousin marriages.
The race card has been so cheapened through overuse by the left that it no longer works.
The cultural protectionist barriers of MultiCult are about to be blown away by the chill wind of competition in ideas.
It's open season on the Asian Village People...
Leave it to Labour to make the BNP speakers of truth and voices of reason.
Well done Labour. We told you this would happen. You must be pleased.
Cassandra: thanks for the correction: I should've written 'births'.
charcoal,
where are your numbers to challenge those facts?
not very intelligent are you charcoal.
to make vulgar remarks without offering facts to back it up makes you look like a cunt.
an insecure and stupid cunt.
selective figures are bnp's stock in trade and no basis for an intelligent debate.
but then the bnp are not an intelligent party.
they couldn't be trusted to run a bath. the issue is the failure of this government to run the country in a responsible manner. the bnp are offering no solutions, all they spout is the propaganda of hate. racism increases during economic downturn and that is when scum like the bnp try to stir it up blaming the wrong people.
you will find the people most responsible for causing economic hardship are usually white bankers, white politicians, white chairmen of boards. you would also find it is the extreme right wing individuals in those groups who are funding fascist organizations like the bnp to take the heat off of themselves.
it's all a big fucking front. the bnp are just the ignorant racist cunts doing the dirty work.
Thickas - I penned a reasoned response to your last reply to me, but Guido deleted it. I should have put in more vitriol, clearly.
You, too are making statements you can't back up, principally the one that what the majority wants, they get.
You must be thinking of some other country.
"you would also find it is the extreme right wing individuals in those groups who are funding fascist organizations like the bnp to take the heat off of themselves."
I would like to point out that the term "right-wing" specifically refers to political parties that make their appeal to the wealthier half of the population (e.g. the Tories). The Tories could be described as right-wing.
The BNP core vote is in Britains poorest council estates. Therefore it cannot by definition be "right-wing". This incorrect re-definition of the BNP as right-wing is left-wing double-speak and should be resisted by all true right-wingers.
anon bnp troll 6.24,
you moron!
the bnp are using poor peoples' concerns to cause social divisions through race.
as I previously stated, bnp members are not intelligent.
this one doesn't even realise he's a fucking tool of high status far right individuals. those people couldn't give a fuck about council estate inhabitants, infact they despise and exploit them.
wake up you dopey cunt!
"this one doesn't even realise he's a fucking tool of high status far right individuals. "
then name them.
Islamisits are trying to impose Shaira law on our society.
It must resisted at all costs.
Their constant denial of our culture and laws make them well not popular.
I wait I look I ponder should I stay in this blighted land or take my 3 daughters to lands anew?
"I wait I look I ponder should I stay in this blighted land or take my 3 daughters to lands anew?"
Unless you have something forcing you to stay then I strongly suggest you leave. The government has really screwed the economy - this time much worse than in the 70s. It is corrupt through and through and people despise it, but they have little faith in the Tories either. It has to be a likely outcome that chronic civil disorder and possibly even civil war could be an outcome. People have lost faith in the establishment to maintain order in the face of rising crime and economic uncertainty. Community cohesion is coming apart due to ridiculous levels of immigration.
I'm moving funds out of the UK and getting ready to run. My wife is Asian and I don't think I can guarantee her safety or the safety of our children when the shit really hits the fan in the
next few years. People will start turning against immigrants when REAL economic problems start to bite. My wife's parents know all there is to know about fleeing countries that get into serious difficulties. Don't say "it couldn't happen here". Anywhere there is socialism it can happen. It is a symptom of socialism - of putting the idiots in the driving seat. The Tories are just as socialist as Labour when it comes down to it.
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