Tory Transparency Form Not Good Enough
Why not list every item? Businesses don't put in VAT returns missing receipts for items under £250. There is a catch all "other" space on the new Tory "Right to Know" form. Guido wants to know which MPs have been claiming for food (up to £40 a day) while children in state schools are allocated 50p.Ben Wallace MP was able to itemise all his expenses. The Hain excuse of being "too busy" is not good enough. Why should taxpayers have to account for every penny of income and expense yet MPs be taken on trust?
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We want to know who literally has been eating from the trough at the taxpayers expense...
107 comments:
Here's the prize scumbags from both parties so far: Cooper and Balls from Labour and the Wintertons from the Tories.
Those four would disgrace a banana republic with their pillaging of housing allowances.
£40 per day for food! This is daylight robbery. You know the place is corrupt when £250 is considered so small a sum as not to require a receipt.
ALL taxpayers should be under the same HMRC rules for income and expenses. For that matter why do they have a duty free trough, sorry bar in the HofP? When cross-border EU duty-free was abolished, there was one shop exempted - guess where: in the EU building in Brussels.
We have got a long way to go to get these freeloaders even STARTING to thing along the right lines - so far we have only aroused their incredulity that we should even have the temerity to question the motives of the Hon Ladies & Gents. That is of course just what it is - a public fucking convenience for all the piss-takers in the sewer.
Go get 'em Guido, venal cunts.
People just will not wear the concept of MPs 'self-auditing' anymore. Unless expenditure can be subjected to independent audit, the status quo continues.
Cameron had a real opportunity to tap into public sentiment and take a lead on this issue. Why hasn't he?
You're taking this a bit far, Guido. MPs and their families will have to account to the taxman in exactly the same way as ordinary taxpayers.
So long as MPs give substantial disclosure - which Cameron's form seems to amount to - then I personally would rather they focussed on doing their job than accounting for every last penny.
Don't forget this one.
BARBARA FOLLETT, the Labour minister and wife of millionaire novelist Ken Follett, has claimed more than £120,000 in MPs’ allowances to pay for a London home, while owning a buy-to-let flat in the capital.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article2753503.ece
As an aside, its just been posted that blogs top newspapers on google.The tide has turned.
This form is a sensible first step. There is no point in having so much information that it is incomprehensible. At least Cameron acts decisively - GB just has another review.
Grow up - I don't want to be represented by someone who is adept in filling in VAT returns or similar. The rules should be set on what MPs can and cannot spend our money and then they should be subject to a proper independent audit. Perhaps MPs might have something better to do than filling in stupid forms which can then be crawled over by muckrakers such as Guido.
Cameron guesses that this is just an issue for wonks, that most people in Britain do not expect nor want to live in a democracy. People want to be ruled and governed. At least, they want their neighbours to be ruled and governed.
Wasn't Cameron's cunning plan to publish the names of front bench MPs with their snouts in the trough as from 1st April? Cunning because, by then, the whole sorry lot of them will all have re-structured their affairs and probably also arranged for Gorbals Mick to impose a confidentiality rule anyhow.
What a pathetic attempt to try and head off criticism regarding Tories with their noses in the trough .
Conway paying his kids wads of public cash to do nothing, and now Nicholas and Ann Winterton getting thousands for rental on a flat that has no outstanding mortgage.
In both cases this is surely FRAUD !!!!!
Cambos plan is Tory self regulation; the Tory pigs will just do some fancy creative accounting to bend the rules, and we the public will have no real idea how much his back benchers are scamming from the public purse
Harriet Harman, that well known apologist for sleaze, tells us that MPs need to be able to claim for day-to-day living expenses. Most people use their salaries to pay day-to-day living expenses. MPs think their salaries should be treated like pocket money and all other expenses should be met by the tax payer.
Quite agree couldn't one of the big four accountancy firms come up with a best practice TOTAL disclosure document which covers all MP's expenditure allowances etc etc.
How about a competition?
Come on PwC Deloittes E & Y and KPMG how about some public service returns!!
they can't be trusted, it really is that simple.
and it is all their own fault, so stop whining you untrustworthy cunts. we want to know where every penny is going.
anything less is a tacit admission on the MPs part that they are bent.
wonderful things logic and honesty.
welcome to the real world you useless fuckers, cold out here, innit.
Let's pay MPs a wage that will attract high fliers. It must be six figures. But, I'd have far fewer of them. Get rid of expenses; after all a normal employee has to pop out for his own sarnie at lunchtime so why can't an MP? £40 a day is a joke.
MPs should ask themselves how they can save money for the taxpayer at all times, not how they can milk the system for all it's worth.
With the public mood as it is right now, these scandals will be nothing but good for the future health of parliament. Now let's cut the crap and get straight there. Come on Call me Dave, time to advance now that public opinion has cleared the way.
this begs the question guido
how many £250 a day are taken by which mps , do some do it every day , do some do the right thing and reciept it all/
do they claim it every day or just when the house is sitting??
i yjink you did a story that the lords got £300 a day unreciepted
as for cooper and balls , i have only just got that one , two claims for same house , is the parlimenatry standrds commitie a hole in the wall bank teller or an actual person !!
IS GORGON ON A HOOK
Re expenses Teflon Tone was in number10 and sh*tbag in number11 both grace and favour but how many bedrooms did they each have.
I ask because if Gorgon still has his flat in Great Smith Street and the house in Kirkcaldy was he claiming expenses His spokesperson says number11 was not 'viable,
GO Guido
Interesting that Wallace was an MSP during the first term of the Scottish Parliament where greater transparency has been enforced since day one. They have gone even further since the taxigate and henrygate fiascos, but they have always been ahead of Westminster.
Keep going on this Guido, there's plenty more apples on this particular tree...
It is at least a first step in the right direction.
Every journey starts with a first step.
Crash Gordon must be wetting himself ahead of PMQs tomorrow, though I expect a NuLab ill thought out and rushed announcement on the topic sometime tomorrow morning before PMQs.
NuLab will also do their best to try and ensure all blame for the MP Bugging Affair will be pushed fully onto the Police.
I hope for the sake of Mark Kearney he doesn't end up like Dr David Kelly.
My advice to Mark would be to ensure you let other people know where you are and what you are planning to do and first and foremost that you are NOT planning on killing yourself and that you are NOT feeling suicidical. Do not attend any secret meetings with strangers. Even publish this fact via newpapers. So any supposed suicide would be clearly not such a thing, however green the wood was.
Try and have a family member with you are all times.
Easy on the literally, Guido. It's not literally a trough.
Hey somethings not right most pensioners would love that just to live on!
oh yeah, the idiot speaker and the rest of the chancers in the new labour war party have started playing the class warrior card for all it's worth.
you thieving cunts are making me laugh so hard, I think I'm going to have a hernia!
please, for fuck's sake, allow me a moment to recover from my sides being split by chortling so violently at the spectacle of that ugly fuckwit wendy dropping herself so deeply in the shit.
perhaps these jokers could go into stand up when they get kicked out at the next election.
£40 per day for food, bollocks.
They have subsidised facilities at Westminster, so they can pay and like it like everyone else.
If these beggars want to trough it outside of the Palace then they can pay out of their own pockets. And if they are entertained then they can declare it in the bribe book like everybody else.
May i quote Cicero in his complaint of the lictors:-
" These people are a warning of what happens to any state which has a permanent staff of officials. They begin as our servants and end up imagining themselves our masters."
Ref my last post......40 pounds a day!
and by the way, where's that cunt gordon gone?
he must be locked in his room with his ear stuck to that mobile phone, either taking new orders from washington or wanking furiously over some nasty telephone sex line. get that cunt a glass of water before he dehydrates and his brain shrivels up to a fucking walnut.
you're supposed to be running the country you wanker, not tossing yourself or your masters off.
didn't the cunt read the job description?
An earlier poster said MPs should get a proper rate for the highly responsible job they (should be) doing - a six figure sum but with minimal, tightly-controlled expenses. I agree.
There are jobsworths on my local council earning more than that. As for the GLA, Leninslime's cronies won't get out of bed for less - with a few fact-finding missions to Honolulu thrown in.
Monkeys/peanuts.
Cos he is probably fucking at it as well that's why!
The message from Parliament is;
"Let them eat cake!"
It's better than the Labour MP's form!
"Are you a lying, cheating, coniving piece of scum, who will rip off your constituents and do as you are told for preferement?"
Apparently the answers they can choose are:
"Yes, but my mum filled my forms in"
"Yes, but Mr Broon said it would be OK"
"Yes, but these rules were only intended to trap Tory MPs, not me."
Itemise to the last penny or be kicked out!!
If they are not happy with that then get another job, they will soon find thats what we all have to do!
Antoinette Marie said...
The message to us all from Westminster is;
"Let them eat cake!"
3:24 PM, February 05, 2008
Yeah, yeah, been there, seen it all before, get in the queue!
Hain: "too busy" to itemise all his expenses.
But not too busy to put in his expenses claim.
Guido.
How do you claim £40 a day for food?
My member pays for his own. How can we claim?
Don't be silly Guido, we already know how many of them are eating from the trough at the taxpayers expense.
ALL OF THEM.
The question is not. Whether or not they take the piss. The question is. How much piss and how often do they take it?
However a far bigger question is.
WHY do they do it at all. When they know full well they are breaking the law, and they can at anytime be exposed for even a small 'fuck-up' by any power that seeks to control them?
They have in effect sold their souls to the whips office and whoever is giving orders to the media at the time.
They all do it especially the most successful ones.
Only a corrupt politician can be trusted by his own parties Big Wigs. Therefore by inference, the most corrupted can be 'trusted' the most. Being seriously incompetent as a minister also helps, but it is not such a prerequisite to executive power.
Spare a thought for those poor chaps at MI5.
Of which half would lose their overtime payments, if politicians started being constructive, competent, statesmanlike and collectively honest for once.
but how do you stop the sleaze , mps will get paid lunchs from lobbyists .
the problem is how to get a grip on the lobyist expendature as well.
there 656 mps i think so even if the £40 a day goes thats 25k a day better off .
and broons flat so hes in it as well , as virgin upgrades , and the 200k from robertson (er i mean europe).
reckon 1/4 of mps employ family members , nick harvey did not answer the question when asked about if he employed family members , "he said his 5 yr old son was enthusiastic" well never mind his son has he got anyone else there !!
anon @ 2.08 - what the fuck are you on about, not wanting your representatives to have to waste their time filling in stupid forms for expenses. Just think of all the time they'll save not having to think up scams to defraud the taxpayer, because if you've missed the point here, that is what they're doing whether it be within the fucking rules or not.
May I refer you to Alex at 3.38 who put it most succinctly. Would you want a model of rectitude like Hain representing you?
These thieving bastards will spend any amount of their time that you have paid for to gouge more bunce. Remember that stalwart of the Kinnochio Troughing Club (European Div.) the fragrant Glenys when caught with her taxi waiting to take her to the airport on a Friday morning while she signed in for the daily EU attendance allowance - "I'm not breaking any rules".
Mercenary, thieving cunt.
sterlings gone up ,now that public spending black hole has been discovered!!
as forex trader to put a couple of thou on for me will you please
I think that the 'electorate' (as they choose to call themselves)need to be persuaded that £40 food allowance a day is positively Spartan, when one is forced, on purely medical grounds, to take luncheon at the Carlton Club at least three times a week.
Off topic, but with 386,417 unique visitors last month Guido may be well placed to promote the following petition - the name says it all.
http://www.stopblair.eu
Even the ghastly Caroline Flint is being flayed by the Guardian today. Her latest wheeze is to chuck council house tenants out if they don't get a job.
One might have a sneaking sympathy with that, except councils have a statutory obligation to house them. So the whole idea is shit from the start.
I wonder how NuLab would react if the Tories had suggested it. Snotgobbler's pathetic "cabinet" are desperate for ideas to attract the popular vote, even if it means stealing them from the BNP. Like the cheapest heroin-addicted whore, they have no principles. None whatsoever.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,2252761,00.html
Even the monarch has to produce accounts and show value for money but not the MPs it seems....
Adding all the allowances to the salary is a bizarre solution. Surely that's just replacing a semi-regulated system with a non-regulated system which they can't abuse because it's 'their' money.
These are 650 of the wiliest, slippery b*stards in the country. Watch them closely 'cos they'll replace one corrupt system with another.
£40 a day!! what do our military get???
This IS an outrage. they talk about the military covenant...BUT do nowt!
£40 a day it is outrageous.
Cameron has bottled this. He should tell his backbenchers. IF they do not fill in the form they will be denied the whip! and their local association will be asked to deselect them.
They must get the feeling of the public. They do not.
That Cameron has not taken Maclean Off the speakers 'enquiry' tells us a lot!
What is proposed is enough. Make it any more detailed and then staff time will be used to complete these forms instead of helping constituents with their problems. MPs are elected to represent us in parliament and take up problems we might have, not burn the midnight oil filling in forms.
While some MPs might have a small postbag, most and even conservative MPs) have huge post bags.
Money should be spent on helping people, not more red tape.
Yes I realise I might not be popular for saying this, but don't forget last week Cameron blasted the PM over form filling police officers, who would better be spending their time on the beat.
Beleaguered Bendy Wendy Alexander is losing her THIRD spin doctor since she became leader lsat summer. According to today's Scotsman,Tony McElroy is to take Tesco's shilling and " double his salary and get a life" , according to insiders.
Her first press handler, Brian Lironi, ex Sunday Mail, quit after difficulties with Wee Wendy. While her second minder Matthew Marr resigned after making a series of 'interventions' directed at the Scottish First Minister at an awards evening last November.
At best, Wendy has been very 'unlucky' in her choice of spin meisters. Can the 3 EXs be so wrong about Wendy?
And have all Westminster Bars subject to the same Tax and Duty levels as Licensed Premises elsewhere in the Country.
Council Tax % and classifications should be checked that all these MP crooks are paying 100% like the rest of us.
Our MPs are losing our trust.it looks an irreversible process.The expenses debacle is but a sign of their deep contempt for us and for our,not their,Parliament.No wonder they are quite prepared to surrender OUR sovereignity to Brussels and deny us a say.They care for nothing but themselves.Time somebody took away the mace and put an end to their prattling.We need a real leader.Meanwhile exposing their greed is for the best.Keep at it Guido.
As good as your Wee Wendy video is, Guido, the Times(19 November 2007 by Lorraine Davidson) piece about the second of her three spin doctors ,Matthew Marr, and the events leading to his resignation are hilarious and deserve to be shared with the toilers in your vineyard.
This guy has got to be related to Beeb's Andrew Marr??
Definitely worth money bags David Pitt-Watson's donation to Bendy Wendy.
£40 a day for food? no wonder so many of them are useless fat bastards!Many people live on a lot less than this for a WEEK!
then they complain that £60,000 pa isn,t enough.well let them work at tescos for £12000 or at a call centre on shifts for £13-14000 and they will find out what hardship and hard work is......
anon 5.17,
listen here you torydroid cunt... does not compute.. does not compute....malfunction..abort..
we've had enough of the nulab trolls and we don't want any fucking daleks like you popping up either.
exactly what part of 'can't be trusted' and 'must account for evey penny' do you not understand, you fucking moron?
these thieving cunts cannot be trusted with our money therefore every penny must be accounted for to make sure that they no longer steal from us.
there, surely even a fucking robot can understand that, if not we will have to exterminate...exterminate cunts like you. let's try and be civil and logical and honest about this eh? you understand logic don't you robot?
you will have to change your programme or else we will have to delete you.
When are we going to see the list of labour MP's who employed family
long time in coming
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Jack Straw is in trouble tonight.
He has claimed that the first he knew of the Sadiq Khan bugging incident was when he read about it in the newspapers last weekend.
Sky News have just discovered, however, that he discussed this with senior officials in his department last December.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1304039,00.html
I like the one line for family member! Surely, you need to list who is family under the 'staff' that you employ. As we have seen, some MP's employ more than one member of staff who is a family member so this form will not work.
(or is that the intention of the form?)
All we need now is the Lib-Dim pig with their snout in the public trough.
They are all lying, thieving scumbag cunts.
This expense scan seems straightforward - just provide a receipt for every expense and make the information available to the public. Job done. Works in Scotland.
Anonymouse @ 5:17
What is proposed is enough........
Why not get their sons, daughters or spouses to do it or are you just trying to make a case for yourself or a colleague?
Look you lot, you are just spinning your wheels on this site. If you want to seriously change the system you have got to get practical.
I need support from Guido people for the following (from my "Our Kingdom" blog).
You and I know that this site is a classic example of talking the talk and no walking the walk. Nothing said here will change anything, it is just esoteric spleen venting.
I am thinking of starting the “None of the Above Party”, because we have to fight fire with fire; for the following reasons:-
There will have to be a general election in the next couple of years and we the people can do absolutely nothing to select the person(s) we wish to vote for; they will be presented to us. You will know more about Britney Spiers than you will about the candidate; and, we don’t have any of those primary nice things, like the yanks have, to sort out the runners and riders.
There is no alternative - apart from a coup d’etat - to getting a name on a ballot paper, so you have got to have a least ten mates who can write their names on a proposal form. They will stand for the “None of the Above Party”, which we will register with the commission.
We will now have given the populace the biggest protest vote opportunity they will ever have. No risk of tactical voting cock-ups in marginal seats. If they are pissed off with the present system they are bound to vote for us. If not, they won’t. They can go back to whining on sites like this for ever more.
In case, by accident, we get to form a government, we will have to have a policy or better still an Ideology. I suggest we nick the Ten Commandments on Direct Democracy’s home page, middle class England will go for it big time; Our poster will look like a tablet of stone; the bottom line will say “Its a rollover week. vote for us”.
As running the country will be a pain, we will sub-contract most of it to the the Cities and the Counties. We will just do the bits that are only do-able at national level - defence; trade; treaties; national security and federal budgets and taxes etc. We can do a bit of socio-economic balancing by handing out some of this cash, per capita, to the Counties. Nothing too complicated. We will get into flat taxes and vouchers for health and education pretty quickly after we have put those bastards into the private sector. Anything Estonia can do, we can do better.
The country may be in complete chaos after a few months - Belgium still works without a government - so we may have to sub-contract Tesco or WalMart management to sort it. They are much better at running big things than any bunch of career politicians.
I was going to start the “Don’t Vote: Teach the Buggers a Lesson Party”, but that needs some more work. Must go now. I have an interview with Mr Conway MP for a research post, lovely jubly.
Didn't MPs also vote to exempt Parliament premises from the anti-smoking law?
Which planet are they on?. This "disclosure" is pathetic political bullshit. Cameron had better get a proper grip and out all his scumbags - even if it's half of them - the public will accept no less. Take a look at the accounts of any company in the land, and weep
I am appalled by the attitudes expressed here. Most of our politicians work very hard and are only trying to do what they consider best for the country. Would YOU like their job?
Quite correct Guido, it is Not Good enough.
We should build our MPs an accomodation block, canteen and laid on transport to the houses of Parliament.
Then they would have no reason to claim/fiddle expenses on the public purse.
And it goes without saying that grace and favour should BE NO MORE.
6:33 PM
How much Brown owe you Aunty Joy?
6:29 PM
I must him have got confused with someone else - all these terrorists look the same.
The comely and amusing young William Hague "earns" vast sums of money telling laboured fourth-form jokes to drunken diners, bless.With Ffffffion and Seb to keep on side he probably needs every penny.
Fat Ken Trombone, former chancellor "earns" vast sums of money peddling tobacco to third world children, now that his own legislature has banned his activities in his home land. Many's an MP only turns up for work when nothing more lucrative beckons elsewhere, in the courts, perhaps, for the pretend lawyers or, in Mr Blunkett's case, selling his well-known scientific expertise in DNA testing/flogging home office contacts he made at my expense.
Westminster's most charming Scot, the horrible cunt, John Reid MP, works full-time as chairman of a Glasgow football team and doubtless in various security consultancies, without it impinging on his MP duties, not in the slightest.
Imagine a nurse saying to her patients I'm just off, the noo, tae ma real job, youse can look after yerselves and make sure ma cheque and expenses gets sent oot, the noo. A teacher, or Mr Blair's enemy within, a firefighter phoning-in and saying I'll be there if there's a fire or owt but otherwise I'm coining it over here.
All of these thieving cunts, Reid and Blunkett and Clarke will have stooges planted in Glasgow, Sheffield and Nottingham, well-rehearsed in saying what a wonderful constituency MP Ken has been, from Dar es Salaam or the BBC studios or wherever else his fat money-grubbing snout takes him; from anywhere but where we pay the useless fucking loudmouth roly-poly gabshire to be, in parliament.
A while back Sunshine Superman, Tommy Sheridan, now awaiting trial on perjury charges, gave himself unlimited paid leave from his MSP duties to pursue a legal action - of his own instigation - in which he hoped to win two hundred grand, not a penny of which would have gone to the taxpayers who continued to pay his wages throughout the whole dreadful farce.
The UK's most obnoxious MP, Mr Geoff Cluster-Bomb-the-Schools Hoon, recently remarked that Peter Hain must now devote all his energies -not his spare time from being an MP but all his energies - to clearing his name,whilst we continue to pay his wages and cufflink allowances.
When these shameless crooks are begging for votes you don't hear the freak Hague saying And in ay very real sense I shall not spend ay very long time on this, because I have ay very important after-dinner speech to write for ay very rich group of very important drunken political groupies who think I yam the best thing since ay certain Mr Larry Grayson. No, the worthless bandits are all gonna work day and fucking night for their constituents, it is their honour to serve, they would happily do it for nothing.
And when they get the job they don't even bother to turn up, earning so much more whoring themselves, and us, wherever they can. Can't we even expect them to work full-time ?
Mr 45 relates above the terrible tale of the Welsh shrew, Glenys Kinnock, with the taxi waiting outside the European parliament whilst she pops-in to register for her daily, monarchical allowances and then straight out for the 'plane home. There was a time when this stuff was a wee bit funny. But its not funny anymore. People are in real poverty - fuel poverty, council tax poverty, stolen pension poverty, Brown-encouraged debt-poverty; people die every day for want of a few quid, their dying faces shat upon by Mr & Mrs Balls & Co.
stanislav write to Scotch pretend parliament about Sheridan. Fuck off, citizen, says jobsworth, Parliament already discussed whether members should work minimum hours and decide against, Sheridan may be vile, bullyboy, degenerate thug, ponce, grotesque sexual predator, lying fucking hypocrite and class traitor, but is MSP, therefore still entitled to shit in Jock's face. It's what they do.
Nota bene. Stanislav is all for free speech and all but if he sees some Westminster groupie, some lusty, all-male Hague-fancier, some Jerry Hayes coming on here bleating about all the work they do behind the scenes, in the committees and everything, for charity, Stanislav will fire-up blue van, hunt them down, wherever they are and drop down mineshaft, reserved for enemies of the people.
breaking news said...
"Jack Straw is in trouble tonight.
He has claimed that the first he knew of the Sadiq Khan bugging incident was when he read about it in the newspapers last weekend.
Sky News have just discovered, however, that he discussed this with senior officials in his department last December."
Not so. The Sky report says that Straw discussed the fact that Khan was visiting the detainee. He wasn't aware of the bugging.
£40 pound for food?
As my yorkshire mother would say "It's impossuible to eat that much!"
This ranting does Guido no good!
Show some perspective please!
Some of you bloggers must be leading sheltered lives!
£40 food allowance in Central London is not excessive. I used to get more than that in expenses when I worked away from home. (£10 Breakfast, £10 Lunch, £20 Dinner).
Grow up for Heaven's sake!
shropshirelad - did you also have a subsidised canteen, with duty-free bar pulled along behind you when you were away from home? These venal cunts ARE IN THEIR FUCKING OFFICE - when the lazy money-grubbing cunts can be bothered to recall who they actually work for.
See Stan above for full explanation if this is too difficult.
anon 8.43
"The Sky report says that Straw discussed the fact that Khan was visiting the detainee. He wasn't aware of the bugging."
The officials were aware of the bugging so do you seriously believe they didn't discuss this with Straw?
Jack the Lad has been caught bang to rights lying as will become more than evident in due course.
9:01 PM
Forty a day for food?
Shit! I could get stoned for a week on that and still manage to achieve nothing of any worth.
Acorn:
I'd definitely support a 'None of the Above' party. I think you might be on to something. The actual policies don't matter very much, in fact it's probably best to not have any except No More Sleaze. That way you won't alienate anyone.
Assuming 'we' formed the government we could have genuine debates about stuff that happens, with a free vote on everything.
As you say, it'd be a great idea to sub-contract the actual mechanics of government to Tesco or whoever.
The net is tightening around Jack Straw:
"Mr Straw was facing calls to explain himself after he revealed that he had been told in December that Sadiq Khan had been meeting Babar Ahmad at Woodhill Prison in Milton Keynes in December.
His officials have conceded that they were aware the meeting may have been bugged although the Justice Secretary insists he was not made aware of this allegation until last Saturday..... "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/05/nbugged305.xml
Dear Mr Shropshire lad
Housman, encountering you on Clee Hill, would piss in your face; and so would most people here. Maybe Flashman is a more apposite nom de plume for a man of your humanity. Maybe, like the cunt Portillo, you think the poor exist so's the rich can make self-serving documentaries about them.
It's thanks to the likes of you, laddie, that some people don't have forty pounds a week for food. Should they storm your home one night when this nightmare reality unravels just you see you tell them what a bigshot you used to be.
Shropshire lad,
They're not away from home. They're at home (maybe second home).
Been walking around the palace of Westminster all day today and MPs have been talking about SUPER TUESDAY and what do I think.
I've been smiling and saying 'yes, tough one' and my standard 'I will need to check the latest review findings' but no real idea of what they were blathering on about.
Anyway , I get home and guess what?
Cook has made Pancakes.. mmm that is a Super Tuesday
As a businessman I am not allowed any Gifts Or Perks . they are all taxable as benefits in Kind.
MPs should be now be subject to the same rules as all.
I have a coffee machine in one of my businesses and Custom and Excise have instructed that VAT is payable on the Staffs 20P cups of Coffee.
The "Conway Effect" must now be that MPS must not have any benefits in kind and be subject to the Laws of the Land whether Taxation, alcohol duty and the Smoking regulations.
I am not allowed Free Meals on Expenses paid tax free.
Bast..ds
Criticising the Balls family is quite mistaken. In reality, theirs is just the sort of success story that a modernised economy should encourage.
Both Ed and Yvette were PPE students at Oxford. Everyone knows that students are penniless. Therefore, they have worked their way up from being penniless students to the millionaires they are today. We should all be proud that they were able to achieve this success in modern Britain.
Do we really want to live in a country where everything is levelled down? If we take away the incentives for entrepreneurial self-promotion, then what will drive the growth of our public sector?
Lot of talk about TESCO. Remember Tesco is breaking the country financially with its tatty imports from china.
Does Tesco pay full UK Tax or does it avoid it with its overseas interests?
Tesco is actually snouting in the trough more than our MPs and is more powerful than them!
These complaints about MPs are just the politics of envy
Restrictions on MPs tax free luxuries following the Conway Swindle must also include the TROUGHS in Downing Street and Whitehall generally. Why should Brown have a tax free Dinner!
The Ministry of Defence pays a grant to its Officers to educate their children at private schools.
Why? I dont get a grant as a taxpayer to pay for mine.
Good on ye Guido for bringing out all the pigs with their snouts in the trough.
Can Speaker Martin read well enough to take into consideration your bloggers blogs as he deliberates until the autumn.
The CON way Swindle- What an interesting label.
stanislav,
thanks for bringing the real point to the fore. this isn't about complaining and cynicism and convening a council of despair. these cunts are killing us. in hospitals 5000 dead from lack of germ control...in old peoples' homes from abuse encouraged by profiteering...atleast 10,000 old people dying from cold related illnesses in one of the richest countries in the world. lots of talk about donations, what about energy companies donating cheap energy to our old...our soldiers die for lies and lack of supplies while the MOD spends 40,000 a month on taxis and pays 30 million a quarter to bent saudi princes...
suicide rates in prisons up year on year...child poverty rising, homeless numbers increasing, apparantly only 14 in brighton, I must pass half of them then when I get my papers in the morning...fathers kicked to death outside their homes...tax credit benefits that benefit the administrators more than the recipients.
and all for what? to make our cunt politicians recession proof.
these vile creatures aren't worth a light.
and then they accuse us of being cynical. they are like expensive decorators who boast how good their work is. they come in and do a botch job and when we say, look your work is shit and you've spilt paint everywhere, they say 'no it isn't, don't be cynical and if you don't like it, do it yourself.'
useless and dangerous cunts.
vote every one of these deadly wastrels out, starting in the local elections.
ps. you probably had no response because they were afraid that if they dealt appropriately with your enquiry then they wouldn't be invited to one of his infamous coke fuelled whore filled sex parties. hey, it's the only way these inadequates are going to get laid, right?
Parliament - Time to go!
Revelation after revelation of corruption, law breaking, nepotism and cronyism, cushy jobs at the end of it, enrichment and perks during it, not to mention the very rewarding directorships and consultancy fees, both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, whose membership is sadly now also tainted by the whiff of illegal donations and a lack of integrity and transparency in the nomination process, is now a self perpetuating lesson in greed, avarice and endemic corruption.
Self governing and unaccountable except to themselves as proved by the Speaker Michael Martin today announcing an investigation into expenses whose members consist of Member with questionable backgrounds, including a member who is herself under investigation by the Electoral Commission over a donation.
Many think it, few say it, many feel it but now is the time to say it, without fear or trepidation, the Bill of Rights was passed almost 300 years ago and set down the governance of this Kingdom in exchange for the recognition of Parliamentary Supremacy by the Monarch, we have come full circle where the Parliament has replaced the autocratic, corrupt, bullying authoritarian rule of prior Kings & Queens.
On 21 July 1993, the Speaker of the House of Commons issued a reminder to the courts: ‘There has of course been no amendment to the Bill of Rights…the house is entitled to expect that the Bill of Rights will be fully respected by all those appearing before the courts.’
The lies and deceit of the Government concerning the European Treaty is further proof of the determination of these ruling elite to destroy Britain, its past, its future, its people and its land, the Treason Act specifically conveys that:
“If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom or without, compass, imagine, invent, devise, or intend to deprive or depose our Most Gracious Lady the Queen, from the style, honour, or royal name of the imperial crown of the United Kingdom, or of any other of her Majesty’s dominions and countries, or to levy war against her Majesty, within any part of the United Kingdom, in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament, or to move or stir any foreigner or stranger with force to invade the United Kingdom or any other of her Majesty’s dominions or countries under the obeisance of her Majesty, and such compassings, imaginations, inventions, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall express, utter, or declare, by publishing any printing or writing or by any overt act or deed, every person so offending shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable . . . to be transported beyond the seas for the term or his or her natural life”*
*repealed
The time has come not for the dissolution of Parliament, to be replaced by another equally corrupt entity, but the abolition of both Houses of Parliament, the imposition of Regal Authority until such time as a new Parliament can be formed with a clear and recognisable mandate free of the vacuous self serving and morally repugnant Chamber we currently have.
The Act of Treason hereby committed is the wholesale destruction of the United Kingdom, the deliberate ignorance of its constitution and the corruption of its Parliament, to deprive its people of their Common Law rights and to deprive or depose our Most Gracious Lady the Queen, from the style, honour, or royal name of the imperial crown of the United Kingdom through the surrender of Sovereignty to an unaccountable foreign power. Parliament must go either through choice or by the will or actions of the people who grant it the power to sit.
Reading it here first.
I will put it up with my name to it tomorrow and see if they come for me, time to see if Britons have backbone or are just in the throes of a dying a cowardly death.
Crom
anon 11.26
ah, the politics of envy hmmm....
let's turn that one round shall we?
why do wealthy people, be they politicians or actual wealth creators begrudge working people a living wage?
answer that one you clever cunt.
you fucking retard satanist, your name's on the list.
get me my silver bullets and get this
Black Magic Morality Inverting Motherfucker up against the wall!
I'm going to enjoy doing this one....
oh er news from the bunker !! in ft article today, red eyes aids , shouting at typists. gordons now asked for all lab mps to declare who works for them !!
salmond says hell cry and leave if scotch dont accept budget , i thought he was an experienced politician!!
lisbon debate is a bit heavy going but just to clarify what exactly nu labour are up to (without our permission) go to 9pm , redwoods and cashes bits.
i still think its a deciet , we dont need the euro state we can make and ammend our laws in our parliment with mps we are free to elect.
johnsons off his nut on flouride , do the mums know who have to mix baby formual what effect it has when its in the water!! just brush teeth more and eat less sugary things is sound enough advice,its rumoured to give increase in brittle bone.
cant protest against green belt developements , 3million more homes must be built
they can get stuffed with this lot they take our money and our rights
nu labour bastards the lot of them
Acorn said....
"I am thinking of starting the “None of the Above Party”, because we have to fight fire with fire; ......"
johnny says.....
I've already done this in Wales.
Check my blog on the link:
yourpaljohnny.blogspot.com.
Our party is called "NONE of THESE TURKEYS".
No Headquarters, no leaders, no members, no expenses, no freebies, no sleaze.....Guaranteed.
Our only piece of equipment is kindly supplied in each polling booth.......The Pencil.
Simply endorse your ballot paper with the words:-
NONE of THESE TURKEYS.
If we get a majority, they may get the message.
Your pal.
johnny.
there is a petition to stop bliar being eu prez link from the mail.
Anonymous @ 1:07 PM said...
"Everyone knows that students are penniless"
Unless your name is Conway, of course.
Oh! Don't forget the students packing out the clubs and bars every night. If you want to see really penniless students you should come and live here in Cambridge.
Idiot.
We should not forget the income from directorships etc. that MP's get to top up their Parliamentary salaries and perks. I think one needs to know how many hours directorships require the MP & MEP's to work and for what renumeration. They are of course getting the directorships mainly because of their parliamentary status. ie John Reid and Celtic Football Team;
Neil Kinnock and DRS Data Services Directorship = £33,000.
It seems to me that being an MP may be a part-time job, therefore £60,000 is overpayment!
we will get you all! said...
hey coward, tell us who you are so we can put you down for a spike on traitors gate.
Yes, that makes sense. Object to the totalitarian government by stringing up people who tell jokes you don't get.
Presumably you take out your frustration with football teams in the same way. Pay them more money, and beat up some strangers.
How brave you are, by the way, using your own, quite unusual, name. Was it what your parents told the nurses when they saw you in the hospital?
Glad you have link about fluoride. Did you know the nazis were the first to use it to control concentration camp inmates? It produces docile behaviour. We are about to experience a catastrophic economic collapse. Could the two be linked? Or is it just coincidence; pretty timely one though.
who are the traitors?
Guido may well block this one as its not funny and posts are generally meant to show some humour and not be taken seriously - still.
Here is an short but interesting article, aledgedly showing Blair to covertly change laws to dodge potential charges of treason, well worth checking out.
especially if you still believe the Tories are Eurosceptic.
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/traitors.html
My neighbour, invalided out of the Royal Marines with a crippling injury, for which he originally received no compensation, is being hounded by the fraud squads of the Council, DWP and every agency under the sun. His crime? To retire three weeks before his 65th birthday! He has been