Supporting Wikileaks and Freedom of Speech
Guido is showing Wikileaks some love with Google-Juice. The IP address http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks is the internet postcode for Wikileaks. A judge has ordered the web authorities to remove the website URL address from the internet so this is the only way directly access it now. This is where Guido uploads important documents (like that Northern Rock memo) and others they don't want you to see...
Coincidentally Guido will be in London on Tuesday to speak to the Manifesto Club. The theme is "Thought Crime - from the Lyrical Terrorist to Beenie Man". Guido will be putting the case for the freedom to offend everyone except the truth - alongside Hari Kunzru, novelist and deputy president of English PEN, Aki Nawaz, the front man of the group Fun-Da-Mental (famous as a 'suicide bomb rapper') and Brendan O'Neill from the Spiked clique of lefties turned libertarianApparently there will be readings from literature that has been banned over the past century. Guido might even try to crack a few Bernard Manning jokes.
When: Tuesday 26 February
Time: Doors open 7pm; event begins 8pm; bar open till 11pm
Where: Corbet Place bar, 15 Hanbury St, London E1 6QR
Cost: Free to Manifesto Club members; £5 non-members (pay on the door) - or join the Manifesto Club.
24 comments:
Guido will be putting the case for the freedom to offend everyone except the truth...
Then the government merely has to criminalize lying to shut people like you up. If you weren't a liar, you wouldn't disagree with them. Q.E.D.
It's not wise to bring truth into a discussion of free speech, because then you concede that lies can and should be suppressed. And guess who gets to define which is which? The likes of Gobbler Brown and Melanie Phillips.
I'd go for something about Muslims, preferably Mohammed. That will show if Aki Nawaz and his ilk are really in favour of freedom of speech.
Guido, remember that the "Lyrical Terrorist" was also colluding in an *actual* terrorist plot, trying to smuggle a terrorist airside at her airport with goodies for the Iraqi insurgents.
See Harry's Place here: http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2008/01/08/lyrical_terrorist_samina_malik_and_her_jihadist_chum.php
she wasn't found guilty of writing poetry. She was found guilty of downloading terrorism manuals. Her defence was that she was just innocently interested in the stuff. The jihad poems were part of the prosecution's argument that her interest in bomb-making instructions might not have been innocent.
Not quite how it was reported at the time, but there were reporting restrictions in place because the trial of the other guy wasn't over yet.
guido
you seem to be promoting some sort of socialite scene for pete docheterys fan club .
to get to the truth via drink, abuse and swearing. i think mr speaker will want to join, he is trying to make with a rather witty debate entitled " iam fat socialist spiv who is unsackable, should i put up with the absue ?"
sounds a good title guido but erm tricky .
so mr speakers spokes person has gone over mis representation so is this a decoy sacking !! or is it to get closer to the main culprit.it does seem as though is house fiddle is a disgrace though. but it will take quite few mps to ask him to step down .
ime willing to bet £5 that gordon will not answer the question "do you think the speaker should go"
re northern rock memo , am i to understand that now would be agood time to publish any important northern rock memos , if so where would you go if this one goes??
an tanterlising possible??
it appears that mr ron sandlers £8 million ponud home is owned by an off shore trust in jersey!!see daily mail
it would be interesting to know who has recieved bonds from granite or the other two vehicles , and what exactly this branch of NR is in jersey.also if these binds are er at special interest rates , or if they feed a pension pot
its begining to look like broons finacial benefits services for friends of labour .or money laundering take your pick which you think best reflects the truth , very clever if it is !!
also both mr sandler and his 900k assitant are both non doms , which sort of should end any carping at ashcroft.
surely running a retail bank for the gov doesnt require all this lot , whats the swiss or euro connection, cant SFO have a butchers or national audit office.
i reckon its a poniz scheme for new labour hence lack of transparaency . nu labour were rather sensative to about FOI .
The National Institutes of Health have announced that they will no longer be using rats for medical experimentation. In their place, they will use attorneys. They have given three reasons for this decision:
1. There are now more attorneys than there are rats.
2. The medical researchers don't become as emotionally attached to the attorneys as they did to the rats.
3. No matter how hard you try, there are some things that rats won't do.
A man is strolling past a lunatic asylum when he hears a loud chanting. "Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen!" goes the noise form within the mental hospital's wards. The man's curiosity gets the better of him and he searches for a hole in the security fence. It's not long before he finds a small crack, so he leans forward and peers in. Instantly, someone jabs him in the eye. As he reels back in agony, the chanting continues: "Fourteen! Fourteen! Fourteen!"
Lee Jasper responds to the Evening Standard allegations:
http://torytroll.blogspot.com
Guido, glad to see you support free speech and open discussion.
I take it then from your stance on this issue that the large number of BNP supporters will now not be censored/silenced in the extreme on your otherwise great site?
Or is this free speech talk just B.S.
Anonymous said...
Lee Jasper responds to the Evening Standard allegations:
http://torytroll.blogspot.com
10:38 AM, February 24, 2008
yep Jasper is still a RACIST an anti white lying racist, still spreading lies about the SL centre, thanks for highlighting this fact! hopefully he will be charged and prosicuted for hate crime.
Many white children who are the minority in London could be attacked and even killed due to his lying hate speech regarding the SL center!
Who is now speaking up for the victimised, underfunded, ethnically cleansed by Labour minority white children in London?
Anonymous BNP supporter,
Well here is the interesting thing, Guido stopping comments he doesn't like is not removing your right to free speech.
This is my private property. It is not a public commons.
Guido's right to do whatever he likes on his property is absolute. Exercise your right to free speech on your property. If you came into my house and started shouting your slogans you would find yourself out on your arse pretty quickly, same on this blog.
That will be part of the argument that Guido will be advancing. Property rights provide a framework for free speech that will protect liberties and foster greater tolerance of minorities.
Guido deletes commies and 911-troofers etcetera as well, so don't feel special.
You censor PUBLIC comments, you MANIPULATE public feedback to give a political view of your suiting,
You do this knowing full well that you have a certain level of political power and influence and you already abuse it. you are no better than those you critisise, perhaps given greater power you would be worse?
Do as i say and not as i do, appears to be your motto Guido.
I don`t see why there is a problem with public comments regarding commies, BNP or 911-troofers.
Isn`t this a public comments section on a political blog or has it now morphed into Conservative home?
Dear Mr BNP Twat,
The idea that freedom of speech means you can say what you like when and wherever you like is obvious bollocks.
You need to think about the difference between an editor and a censor.
You can promote racism if you want, you just cannot do it here.
So fuck off.
Bernard s best joke for me was a person (pick you color/sex/sexuality/race/height/weight/disability as its irrelevant) says to their neighbor, "I am better person than you?" "Oh, why is that?" asks the neighbor. "Because I don't live next to a (pick your color/sex/sexuality/race/height/weight/disability."
The point being that the "*ism" doesn't matter the the joke is the stupidity of the subservience.
I remeber the advert for the cars with that catchy jingle:
Bnp better people to buy from
Come and see
the ( fuck i forgot the rest )
My point is bnp sold absolute shite cars so bollocks to there opinions on anything. Twats!
Fat northern cunt walks into a bar. Drinks 100,000 pints of bitter. Dies.
You can also access wikileaks through their domain address in belgium (wikileaks.be).
what happens when the press distort the truth?
The avoidable war -
1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5860186121153047571
2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371060303901674397
I didn't die, just followed through!
I say offend fucking everyone! They're all cunts out there anyway!If you like offensive humour listen to the jerky boys on youtube...
"Thought Crime - from the Lyrical Terrorist to Beenie Man".
Dare you to read the 'offending' bits from The Satanic Verses.
I am offended by everything in your filthy western society I spit camel dung on you all I am particularly offended that my dole cheque was late from the filthy western neo con christian jew conspiracy you call 'society' now who am I going to make my contribution to Sheik Bin Laden on time!
Hear hear, have posted a link on my blog.
I see it's up to second place on Google if you search for "wikileaks", so clearly this is doing some good - that is, until they decide to go after the Swedish IP... ;-)
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