The spare should watch his back as well as his front. He would not want to become yet another princely sacrifice, who he?
Still if he is very lucky, and survives for the tea and medals. Then one day we might get to do a paternity test on the fine chap. It would be nice to find out, which one of Di's many boyfriends did the actual deed. Although I am sure there are some that already know only too well.
good luck to him , ive watched some of the mitchells boys documentary , and its not video smart bomb stuff they are having to do on the ground , its real lead and shrapnel .
i just never thought he would be allowed to go.
cant fault the british armed forces , but whoever is bringing the cheap smack in should be used as target practice !!
allah be praised for cheap smack , any other delicesies form the mysterious east , hope readers from luton are reading
"It's very nice to be sort of a normal person for once, I think it's about as normal as I'm going to get."
Yeah, killing people is normal...
"But I think that if, up north, when I do go up there, if I do go on patrols in amongst the locals, I'll still be very wary about the fact that I do need to keep my face slightly covered just on the off-chance that I do get recognised, which will put other guys in danger."
Well if when Guido dropped a hint about a D-notice he responsibly chose not to publish it then good on him.
This isn't about a secret political technicality were no ones life is in danger. This is about a real life.
I'm glad Harry was able to do what he trained for and what he wanted to do. Makes a huge difference from the lick spittle attitude of our political leaders.
While we're lambasting Guido for keeping slightly quiet about this one, let's remember that our premier Tory organ, the Speccie, were perfectly happy with a Harry - D-Notice conjunction (until someone panicked, and we had to see it cached instead).
Well done Guido. If you have a sense of proportion (i.e. a frisson of a web-buzz isn't worth a few dozen dead Gurkhas) not everyone thinks that a bad thing.
BTW, this puts Labour on the rack, don't you think?
The Royals put their family in the firing line, unlike the Labour party who sent the boys to war without the right kit and while cutting back the defence budget.
A big up for the Royals, and a big spotlight on the way the forces have been treated by Broon
nice one... why not tell them exactly there he is so that him and his group can be even more of a target. I really don't see what good spreading this news around will do...
Has anybody else just seen Jon Snow on Channel 4 News at 7 PM ? The sole thrust of his studio discussion was to pour scorn on the UK editors and journos who voluntarily held back on the news about Harry and his deployment to Afghanistan. Fortunately the people who he had in the discussion completely squashed him and he ended up looking like the shit that he undoubtedly is. Full marks to Patrick Mercer who has gone up even more in my estimation.
Young Windsor is all that’s on tonight’s news,,, what have our wonderful representatives been up to today in the house to pick today of all days to let us know the young hero is safe and news worthy.
Drudge was wrong on this one. Yes leak the stuff that the press won't, but you have to know when the silence is legitimate. There can be no possible reason to release this information before the Prince is back, and every reason to keep it quiet.
With Drudge's record, they should have just not confirmed it, and the Taliban would have assumed it was wrong. After all, he's only right about 1/3rd of the time.
''I haven't really had a shower for four days, I haven't washed my clothes for a week.''
I'm not fighting you, you filthy fucking inbred infidel, certainly not when theres tits on Guido. I've been masturbating furiously into my night dress all day! More tits on Guido osama request.
harry fighting the taliban? for that is what 'on the frontline' insinuates, is it not? what a load of absolute bollocks. as far as I am aware, the american's rules of engagement are not in the public domain. even our government doesn't know what they are. incredible really. by analysing the basic military strategy the americans are using in afghanistan I think we can work how those rules affect our troops. the taliban are first engaged at close quarter. US jets then bomb and shoot the already engaged enemy. there are two things we can deduce from this strategy. 1) the US rules of engagement offer no safety to british troops. infact they have no qualms about putting our troops in danger. 2) there is no fucking way harry has been sent on any such close quarter holding operations. no fucking way.
The story was broken, on January 7 and 15, by 'Lifestyle', an evidently little read Australian web magazine: au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/b/new-idea/9210/prince-harry-war-lord .
Yes, have just seen Snow's abominable performance. Glad someone else thought he was a shit, and properly squashed by his interviewees. And Linford (7.51) is right about Drudge - which annoyingly for you, Guido, makes you quite responsible and moral!! Bad luck! I see that the Speccie 'suspects' you knew the truth and sat on it - they're calling you an example of a responsible British blogosphere. Makes us all proud (sniff)!!
Well done Guido if you did keep a lid on this, despite it's scoop value. I hope the media outlets that were irresponsible enough to leak this are cleaned out in court.
On a longer-term point, I wonder if the central involvement of Drudge in this will spark some additional MSM railing against those irresponsible online types :/ Certainly the public will take a VERY dim view on those involved in the leak, and no doubt Drudge will bear the brunt of that.
It's a shame the young Blairs are not out there too.
Perhaps we should make it a law that all politicians' childen must do a stint in the forces. I might clarify their minds when it comes to illegal invasions.
You should indeed watch your back son, as well as the front.
History is abound with examples of spares going down in battle to win support for the ruling class during wars they themselves started.
Spares of not so clear parentage, even more so. Evidence also that if they refused to go down in a timely manner, a hard push was given from behind.
It seems Fayad is sure our own establishment are at least capable of doing such a thing. Are you all so sure yourselves that he is wrong?
Even withstanding the fact that Fayad is obviously such a lier and despotic criminal, he is just as likely to have killed his own son, as anyone else.
I just pray for the young man, and hope you all do the same for him and all of those involved in all wars ON BOTH SIDES.
Wars are not just very bad things in all cases. Unless they are conducted clearly for self defense, they are the worst thing imaginable.
ATLAS shrugged and wished SOME people would take off their Union Jack boxers every now and again, and start thinking like compassionate human beings for a change.
Okay fine, it does show the kid has balls, but can anyone indicate in which way this merits a DEFENCE of the realm notice? What's the logic?
How many more are rattling around "in a good cause"? I know there's one that prevents even mentioning a particular web site, 'cus it the lawyers snagged it from my article!
As to Snow et al, you want the unvarnished truth? Well, so do we, so how about not repeating the absurd untruths perpetrated by the Bush administration and echoed by NuLab and NuCon with regard to 9/11 and just about everything else that has happened since. So you missed out a whole episode of "I'm a celebrity, get me in here, eh wot?" - well tuff, but then being killed or wounded for the sake of Neocons' lies is tuff, cum to think of it, so why isn't Harry sticking his bayonet in a few Neocons' throats? Stop the little buggers screeching so much.
Why can't Snow see for himself that the media blackout was for Harry's safety - and the safety of those around him? On his blog, Snow thanks God for Drudge. Yuck.
I don't believe Snow was doing this just to provoke debate.
from elsewhere. Show your appreciation if you feel as I do.
The magazine that broke the Prince Harry embargo, New Idea, is edited by Robyn Foyster. Since she doesn’t like secrets, she won’t want us keeping her contact details under wraps: email: robyn.foyster@pacificmags.com.au tel: +61 2 9464 3300
"Perhaps we should make it a law that all politicians' childen must do a stint in the forces. I might clarify their minds when it comes to illegal invasions."
Nah, we should make it a law that the fuckers in parliament who vote for it, the slime that come up with dodgy dossiers in support of it and the sycophants who write supportive stories in the press, should be on the first plane\boat.
We could issue them with the freedom fighters weapon of choice, an ak47. No ammo though.
walt spotter 10.09, what the fuck are you going on about you lunatic? don't rant at me you cunt. if you have a point then make it. 'my money is on both', you pompous oaf. if you are so keen on this country fighting wars at the behest of another country why don't you sign up for some action, you spineless cunt. quick to spill other people's blood, aren't you? you fucking satanist.
Thick as - I don't know how you fit all that information in. Reminds me of the bloke selling the Encyclopaedia Britannica, didn't need it nay more, fucking wife knew everything.
Jon Snow is the most odious self-regarding little shit on the box, and always got a quick burst from the remote from me when his smug face came on. Pompous jerkoff is a pimple on the arse of journalism, an utter, utter cunt.
Good on Harry Whoever, and if you can put D notices on the activities of Cabinet paedos, you can definitely put one on this. I'd swop one Wales for for a boatload of snot-gobbling homosexual freaks and nancyboys. I agree with someone above, it would be good to see one of those awful Bliar progeny in the line of fire to validate his cunt of a father's decisions.
Come out Gordo, climb down from your rocking-horse, and FUCK OFF.
I don't believe that the will and desire of one man should be enough to get all our press to agree to a secrecy deal with the MoD.
Just because Harry wanted to fight doesn't mean he should. We can't always have what we want and our lives and circumstances dictate what we can and can't do...he is who he is.
It is not the media who would be putting Harry or his troop mates in danger - it is Harry and his determination to have his way.
If the media can enter into an agreement to withold information from the public it sets a dangerous precedent and personally, I find it deeply concerning.
I agree with you both. Perhaps Guido could have occasionally a bit along the lines of http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/
but I doubt if our own worthless parasites have enough shame or physical courage to put themselves or their own in the line of fire. Nor the moral courage to put their careers/pensions in the metaphorical line of fire.
They and their senior civil servants will continue to direct the battle from thousands of miles behind the lines while sucking from the tits of those who are doing what they have little choice but to do what they have to do to stay out of prison.
The sooner all those who voted for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are jailed for war crimes the better.
Yes I know that there might be a case for saying that the invasion of Afghanistan was legal but we see every day on this site about the vermin who are supposed to represent us make up the rules/laws for their own benefit.
They claim to represent us but they don't have to cope with the same everyday problems as us. If they feel that they are about to have break into their salaries to survive they just vote themselves an extra pension/allowance/expense claim/subsidy (thank you Stanislav).
These drones cannot truly represent us because they do not undergo the same trials and tribulations as us.
Sorry to have rambled on so long but I am in the middle of a hefty belt of Laphroaig to try to get the though of the taste of our "betters" out of my mouth.
I wish I could just spit them out and stamp on them.
"Nothing doth hurt more in a state than that cunning men pass for wise." - Francis Bacon
>>'This gives me my best chance to be normal ... All my wishes have come true,' says Harry
Is it normal to go aboard in order to kill people? Do all young people his age consider that "normal" and is that what all their "wishes" are?
>>Harry: 'William wrote to tell me our mother would be proud'
WTF. How would he know? If she was still alive she may have been able to get him not to join the army but to do something more useful, like the good work she did for the campaign against landmines, and with helping to decrease discrimination against victims of AIDS.
>>Harry: 'I would never want to put someone else's life in danger by being a bullet magnet'
So why join the army then?
>>Prince was told by the Queen he would go to war
Ah his old grandmother told him did she? WTF is the chain of command in the British Army then these days?
>>MoD praises British press for keeping Harry's deployment secret until foreign media leaked it
Ah yes ever the evil foreign media. Nope. It's just D-notices and threats "not to let them in on future Royal Stories" if they leak, cannot be used on foreign media.
How many people in the UK are so bored of endless Royal stories when the dead tree press should be actually investigating important issues that face the UK.
The "war" if that is what it is... is Not In My Name.
A new quest for the holy grail would perhaps be more useful and would involve far less : death, pain, suffering, destruction and future hate by generations to come.
interesting question time tonight , galloway you just dont know if hes going to eat a panel member or not , mots of stuff was fairly useual , mr speaker quest seemed to not even discuss the problems of PM performances let alone other stuff. but i give it to galloway on the DNa database problem "you cant trust the goverment to either lose yor data, sell your data , privatise your data or use it for somthing else"
but shows scotish politics and politicians can be a bit more sparky than we see with all the labour sleaze that goes on up there , still seem to have historic chips on shoulders sometimes though for me .
"yew lookin at me eh jimmy" , "yew wanna glasge kiss" always seems under the surface , i hope indepence doesnt turn into ice cream wars allover again.
but if it does they will have to go through it in there hsitory, but they pick some odd fights in the modern era.
"O/T but I'm in Haarlem tonight, Amsterdam without the Drunken Stag and Hen parties embarrassing decent folks. Beautiful place.
"Was last here thirty years ago when a lovelz dutch girl made my day big time."
Haarlem is indeed a wonderful place. I'd rather be there than almost anywhere. But a lovely Dutch girl? Some mistake, surely. The Dutch, apart from being the horticultural vandals of Europe, are also the world's ugliest people. There aren't any lovely ones. None.
Harry isnt involved in direct contact, he is calling in air strikes to blow up villages full of women and children, hardly heroic, on the other hand with the Americans history of dropping bombs on freinds who happen to be nearish to a target , maybe it does take some balls. And why was he carrying his pistol like that, secured only by elastic? I will tell you why, HE WANTED TO LOOK COOL ! Has anybody seen his horse faced brother lately?
he is calling in air strikes to blow up villages full of women and children,
Hitch 7:49 In approx 2000-2002 some of the loudest voices begging for direct western involvement were womens' groups, notably RAWA which argued that being beaten to death by the Taliban for daring to go out and find some food when your husband had been slaughtered in one of their ill-judged actions, constitued an abuse of human rights.
As you rightly point out, dropping bombs on them may not be the most supportive of responses, but there was considerable pressure on the West to get involved. There are also good reasons for refusing to do so - but it would have meant abandoning those same women and children to a grisly fate.
The rhetoric of the RAWA website is unlikely to be to your taste - think of it as opera where language conventions apply. According to the Independent, the situation for the average Afghan woman is worse than ever, which probably accounts for why so many of them save the Taliban and the Western forces the trouble of bombing them and just pour petrol over themselves whilst there is still some fuel to be had.
Mark Wadsworth classifies Afghanistan as a narco-state and asks whether the solution to the mess lies on sorting out our drug policy here? The involment of one prince does not amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world, which is why Guido was right to ignore the subject and Drudge was wrong.
Is Harry shooting up johnny foreigner with that Swastika still on his arm? Surely he'd be put to better use patrolling the streets of Swindon looking for Islamists armed with hammers.
Harry looks hot in combats! Yep, let's break this 'publicity photo shoot' down to it's basic component! Harry will be doing a Beckham y-fronts photo shoot soon. Mind you, it could be worse, Princess Eddie could be doing a 'Rambo' photo shoot.Gulp.
Top boy Hewitt!! The Talitubbies didn't notice Ginger sorting out Xena the modestly dressed WAAF at Kandahar (?) airfield. No doubt there will be a full hour round up on Panoramadan.
to any moron who thinks the blackout was needed for harry's safety, surely the safest thing is for him not to join the army and train to be a killer in the first place.
also this revelation will improve the safety of all the other britsh soldiers in afghanistan as the taleban will only be aiming for harry
anon 11.20, so, clever cunt, you tell me the reason we are fighting in afghanistan. tell me why our army was sent in, on the sly, by john reid. sent without sufficient troop numbers, resources and supplies. you fucking arsehole.
anon 9.09, don't worry, you are not a cunt. you are a spastic! if you don't like this place then fuck off back to radio four. wanker.
The use of the word cunt is more considered, subtle and expressive than you imagine, if you do imagining.
In the lexicon of profanity - that's like a dictionary, to you - cunt has long been the imprecation of last resort for people whose sensibilities have been basted by an often oppressive culture of uberCorrectness. Cunt is the word you don't say. Fine to say pussy, or, arcanely, fanny. Same thing, just a more acceptable set of letters. Somebody decided, quite arbitrarily, that the use of cunt diminished women, even though it doesn't, well, not as much as does cluster bombing them, a la Hoon. Fine to use slang names for body parts, male and female - prick, arse, tit, dick - as terms of abuse, and a custom dating from when, in the Beginning, was the word but cunt, somehow, got locked-away in a box of dirty No No words, like a linguistic nuclear deterrent; this explains its new currency, you stupid cunt.
When people behave as badly as those in Westminster there is absolutely no point in challenging them with rhetoric and sophistry, they are too stupid, Caroline Flint, Hazel Blears, Bob Ainsworth, they are fucking idiots; few of them can frame a sentence, let alone marshal an argument. Stupid cunts.
No, it is not infantile, nor teenage to hope that maybe Alistair Campbell's precious spawn, safe from military action, might say to him, one day, Dad, why does everybody call you a cunt ?
It is not infantile nor teenage to wish that degenerate, yet moralising MPs, sucking each others dicks in public toilets while publicly gay-bashing be challenged by their duped wives; why does everybody call you a hypocritical cunt, Mark or Jerry?
Lets face it, sweetheart, when you can see, online, any amount of granny abuse, bestial rape, paedophilia and sadism one little four letter word isn't actually going to plunge us further into a Sodom and Gomorrah de nos jours, we are already there. The use of the word cunt in these pages is not salacious and neither is it gender derogatory nor infantile but revolutionary; it says, I despise your phony egalitarianism, a pox on your values, I shit, clearly, on your nazi jargon, fuck you and your stinking hypocrisy, you are so repellent that I will deliberately choose, to describe you, a word which folks in your own cosy self-satisfied milieu consider barabarian, de trop, taboo; I don't give a fuck for your linguistic conventions, I am more concerned about you eviscerating Iraq babies, you cunt. I eschew your assumption that you are civilised, that there are civilised words, and uncivilised words, you cunt Hoon; you are the fucking obscenity. I call Hoon and the rest cunt, not out of some wish to write on a cyber toilet wall but because I know that foul, rank, blood-drenched, hypocrite war criminal that he is, his feathers will be ruffled; a poor substitute for life imprisonment but the best I can do.
Its not the use, here, of the word cunt over which you should tut-tut; it's the cunts themslves.
I hope this clarifies some of the idiosyncratic linguistic ocnventions hereabouts. I will trust to someone else to challenge your exquisite snobbery - swearing has its place. Fuck me, did you hear that on Radio 4 ?
Anon @ 9.39, do a little research, everyone else does. Google Dunblane Operation Ore, then ask yourself what is the need for a 100 (yes one hundred) year secrecy order. The first thing I found on D notices - here, must be thousands of others. You think these people nice?
Google Dunblane Massacre, Thomas Hamilton, known paedophile, George Robertson, Firearms certificate referee, Malcolm Forsyth, Tony Blair, Operation Ore
Why thank you for that reply Mr Stanislav. Most enlightening.
It's not snobbery from me, far from it. Nor do I find cunt worse than any other word - I just note that it seems exceedingly popular on this site. I just think that excessive swearing makes for really tedious reading.
I guess I am from the less is more school of swearing.
I think Stanislav has probably covered the issue fully, but I would add that I have a sister-in-law who castigates me for using the word cunt, not because of it's innate offensiveness (it's raison d'etre), but she points out that a cunt is a useful thing, unlike the cunts we write about here - why not use haemorrhoid she says. Well what cunt can spell that without thinking? You'll be all clear now I'm sure.
Three cheers (or possibly fanny-farts) for Stanislav, Emeritus Professor of Malediction.
In the goode olde dayes, a London A-Z would have listed Grope Cunt Lane (just up from Cheapside, I think;) a nice modern revival might be Cull Cunt Alley, with a suitable wall for the motherfuckers to get up against.
A cunt, of course, is also a schmuck. Be interesting to see if cunt is likewise softened over time with use.
His father gets all puffed up about how brave and honourable the armed forces are, his son must be a big dissappointment. The least the family could expect is that their own would stand up when their turn came.
Tony didn't go charging up that particular Goose Green in his youth but he made an astonishingly gung-ho REMF, cowardliness must be genetic, ....I suppose Euan's skulking round investment banks on his father's coat tails.
A new website me thinks....where'sEuanBliar.com that would upset his god aweful mother and the security services.
anon @ 1.09 good idea, but don't leave your readers in the dark about REMF, that most descriptive term coined by GI Joe. Rear Echelon Mother Fucker. Haven't heard it in a long time - thank you.
All this talk about D-Notices .... the word seems to be the blackout on reporting was voluntary, not coerced.
You can bet there would be a great deal of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the usual suspects about censorship and so on if there had been one. So far I hear nothing.
I have mused betimes on our favoured term of abuse, i.e. cunt, versus that of our American cousins, to wit asshole. What would that nice Mr Freud have to say, I wonder?
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Guido's more assiduous readers knew this already, of course.
Since January.
cough, cough
Yep it was mentioned in comments way back. I tried to put you off the scent but to no avail obviously.
Shows that our Guido 'is not Drudge' as someone once commented. Time yet, time yet.
AH (C)
Harry Hill? Surely not. He's doing TV right now. Anyway, the Towelban would spot him a mile off with those big white collars.
While Harry's fighting the Taleban London is overrun with paparazzi. Come back, Harry, you're needed on the Home Front.
O/T but I'm in Haarlem tonight, Amsterdam without the Drunken Stag and Hen parties embarrassing decent folks. Beautiful place.
Was last here thirty years ago when a lovelz dutch girl made my day big time. Cafe's are nice as well. Free Internet!
This droog is chilled.
Wonder if gordons ghost writer is doing the book? after all courage is snottys middle name... or is it wankstain?
From the BBC coverage comes these quotes...
"I haven't really had a shower for four days, I haven't washed my clothes for a week.
"It's very nice to be sort of a normal person for once, I think it's about as normal as I'm going to get.
Harry Flashman is my hero, so stop calling Cameron Flashman because he's done bugger all to get off my cunt list.
Though I live in hope I could one day remove him.
As for the snot eating piece of filth, Flashman really knew the meaning of courage, he was only too aware of how little he had.
The spare should watch his back as well as his front. He would not want to become yet another princely sacrifice, who he?
Still if he is very lucky, and survives for the tea and medals. Then one day we might get to do a paternity test on the fine chap. It would be nice to find out, which one of Di's many boyfriends did the actual deed. Although I am sure there are some that already know only too well.
Hmmmmm.
good luck to him , ive watched some of the mitchells boys documentary , and its not video smart bomb stuff they are having to do on the ground , its real lead and shrapnel .
i just never thought he would be allowed to go.
cant fault the british armed forces , but whoever is bringing the cheap smack in should be used as target practice !!
allah be praised for cheap smack , any other delicesies form the mysterious east , hope readers from luton are reading
From the BBC"
"It's very nice to be sort of a normal person for once, I think it's about as normal as I'm going to get."
Yeah, killing people is normal...
"But I think that if, up north, when I do go up there, if I do go on patrols in amongst the locals, I'll still be very wary about the fact that I do need to keep my face slightly covered just on the off-chance that I do get recognised, which will put other guys in danger."
Does Bouji's have a branch in Manchester?
The SNP gvmts bill to scrap student endownment fees has been
passed.
One more step on the way to independence from Mr Bean's lot of thieves and vagabonds!
Fair play to the boy.
Any chance of getting some of our thieving MPs out there for a stint?
They'd be missed about as much as Harry Wales has been.
Well if when Guido dropped a hint about a D-notice he responsibly chose not to publish it then good on him.
This isn't about a secret political technicality were no ones life is in danger. This is about a real life.
I'm glad Harry was able to do what he trained for and what he wanted to do. Makes a huge difference from the lick spittle attitude of our political leaders.
Normal as a newt, no doubt.
Still, good for him. (In all senses)
HEWITT'S BOY DONE GOOD!
While we're lambasting Guido for keeping slightly quiet about this one, let's remember that our premier Tory organ, the Speccie, were perfectly happy with a Harry - D-Notice conjunction (until someone panicked, and we had to see it cached instead).
Well done Guido. If you have a sense of proportion (i.e. a frisson of a web-buzz isn't worth a few dozen dead Gurkhas) not everyone thinks that a bad thing.
Good for Harry. Hope he gives solid service to those Gurkhas giving those inbred Taleban paedophiles hell.
What fucking snot gobbling media tart let this story out? No doubt wanting a go at wiping Murdoch's arse.
Actually, even senior people at Clarence House didn't know until this afternoon....
Sounds like a victory for common sense all round. At last he's doing something we can be proud of.
BTW, this puts Labour on the rack, don't you think?
The Royals put their family in the firing line, unlike the Labour party who sent the boys to war without the right kit and while cutting back the defence budget.
A big up for the Royals, and a big spotlight on the way the forces have been treated by Broon
nice one... why not tell them exactly there he is so that him and his group can be even more of a target. I really don't see what good spreading this news around will do...
Good for him. His father will be proud, and Chazza will be pleased too.
Has anybody else just seen Jon Snow on Channel 4 News at 7 PM ? The sole thrust of his studio discussion was to pour scorn on the UK editors and journos who voluntarily held back on the news about Harry and his deployment to Afghanistan.
Fortunately the people who he had in the discussion completely squashed him and he ended up looking like the shit that he undoubtedly is. Full marks to Patrick Mercer who has gone up even more in my estimation.
Young Windsor is all that’s on tonight’s news,,, what have our wonderful representatives been up to today in the house to pick today of all days to let us know the young hero is safe and news worthy.
Drudge was wrong on this one. Yes leak the stuff that the press won't, but you have to know when the silence is legitimate. There can be no possible reason to release this information before the Prince is back, and every reason to keep it quiet.
Shame on Drudge.
Drudge should be fucking ashamed of himself.
With Drudge's record, they should have just not confirmed it, and the Taliban would have assumed it was wrong. After all, he's only right about 1/3rd of the time.
Can we have Drudge extradited to the UK and then banged up in the Tower?
Drudge has performed the media equivalent of "friendly fire", in the long American tradition of shitting on or shooting her allies.
Anyway, a ton of manure has fallen on Drudge's reputation; may his name be pissed on forever, as a byword for treacherous self-obsessed cretin.
''I haven't really had a shower for four days, I haven't washed my clothes for a week.''
I'm not fighting you, you filthy fucking inbred infidel, certainly not when theres tits on Guido. I've been masturbating furiously into my night dress all day! More tits on Guido osama request.
harry fighting the taliban? for that is what
'on the frontline' insinuates, is it not?
what a load of absolute bollocks.
as far as I am aware, the american's rules of engagement are not in the public domain. even our government doesn't know what they are. incredible really.
by analysing the basic military strategy the americans are using in afghanistan I think we can work how those rules affect our troops.
the taliban are first engaged at close quarter. US jets then bomb and shoot the already engaged enemy.
there are two things we can deduce from this strategy. 1) the US rules of engagement offer no safety to british troops. infact they have no qualms about putting our troops in danger.
2) there is no fucking way harry has been sent on any such close quarter holding operations.
no fucking way.
The story was broken, on January 7 and 15, by 'Lifestyle', an evidently little read Australian web magazine: au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/b/new-idea/9210/prince-harry-war-lord .
London night clubs takings must be down but good on the lad.
Credit to the SNP government again..
"Access to university should be based on ability to learn, not ability to pay"
Fiona Hyslop
Education Secretary
Labour and the Conservatives MSP's voted against abolition, arguing that the £17m cost could be better spent.
Well I hope the students remember Labour and the Tories come polling day !
Also, I wonder how this will go down in the land of Apathy ? More moaning on English newspaper forums I presume..
Anonymous at 7.40
Yes, have just seen Snow's abominable performance. Glad someone else thought he was a shit, and properly squashed by his interviewees. And Linford (7.51) is right about Drudge - which annoyingly for you, Guido, makes you quite responsible and moral!! Bad luck! I see that the Speccie 'suspects' you knew the truth and sat on it - they're calling you an example of a responsible British blogosphere. Makes us all proud (sniff)!!
Well done Guido if you did keep a lid on this, despite it's scoop value. I hope the media outlets that were irresponsible enough to leak this are cleaned out in court.
On a longer-term point, I wonder if the central involvement of Drudge in this will spark some additional MSM railing against those irresponsible online types :/ Certainly the public will take a VERY dim view on those involved in the leak, and no doubt Drudge will bear the brunt of that.
Did Blair's offspring or any other New Labour offspring fight in Blair's wars?
Answer = NO
It's a shame the young Blairs are not out there too.
Perhaps we should make it a law that all politicians' childen must do a stint in the forces. I might clarify their minds when it comes to illegal invasions.
A word of warning for young Hewitt/Windsor.
You should indeed watch your back son, as well as the front.
History is abound with examples of spares going down in battle to win support for the ruling class during wars they themselves started.
Spares of not so clear parentage, even more so. Evidence also that if they refused to go down in a timely manner, a hard push was given from behind.
It seems Fayad is sure our own establishment are at least capable of doing such a thing. Are you all so sure yourselves that he is wrong?
Even withstanding the fact that Fayad is obviously such a lier and despotic criminal, he is just as likely to have killed his own son, as anyone else.
I just pray for the young man, and hope you all do the same for him and all of those involved in all wars ON BOTH SIDES.
Wars are not just very bad things in all cases. Unless they are conducted clearly for self defense, they are the worst thing imaginable.
ATLAS shrugged and wished SOME people would take off their Union Jack boxers every now and again, and start thinking like compassionate human beings for a change.
See the arrse.co.uk forum for military views on "the journo scum", "tosser journo" who have endangered both Harry's life and those of his soldiers.
You can add your comment to the Australian web site that broke a world embargo on 7 January to make Harry a target (filed under "entertainment").
Okay fine, it does show the kid has balls, but can anyone indicate in which way this merits a DEFENCE of the realm notice? What's the logic?
How many more are rattling around "in a good cause"? I know there's one that prevents even mentioning a particular web site, 'cus it the lawyers snagged it from my article!
It’s at times like this that I really hate 24 hour news how many more bloody angles get they get on a simple story they whittle on and on.....
As to Snow et al, you want the unvarnished truth?
Well, so do we, so how about not repeating the absurd untruths perpetrated by the Bush administration and echoed by NuLab and NuCon with regard to 9/11 and just about everything else that has happened since.
So you missed out a whole episode of "I'm a celebrity, get me in here, eh wot?" - well tuff, but then being killed or wounded for the sake of Neocons' lies is tuff, cum to think of it, so why isn't Harry sticking his bayonet in a few Neocons' throats? Stop the little buggers screeching so much.
Jon Snow being roasted on the Arrse forum.
Why can't Snow see for himself that the media blackout was for Harry's safety - and the safety of those around him? On his blog, Snow thanks God for Drudge. Yuck.
I don't believe Snow was doing this just to provoke debate.
thick as thieves, thick as pigshit more like.
Are you an Armchair General in the 101st Chairborne, or just an ignorant cunt spouting about something of which you plainly know absolutely nothing?
My money is on both.
Why's that posh bloke with the ginger hair got a 9 mill tucked into his flak jacket? Can't the army afford holsters these days?
I bet Hewitt and Di's love child hasn't been within 5 miles of any Taliban despite all this hysterical media hype today.
Still, it keeps the minds of the sheeple off the fact that the UK economy is going into meltdown, so Brown probably approves.
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anonymous @ 9:38
"Perhaps we should make it a law that all politicians' childen must do a stint in the forces. I might clarify their minds when it comes to illegal invasions."
Nah, we should make it a law that the fuckers in parliament who vote for it, the slime that come up with dodgy dossiers in support of it and the sycophants who write supportive stories in the press, should be on the first plane\boat.
We could issue them with the freedom fighters weapon of choice, an ak47. No ammo though.
walt spotter 10.09,
what the fuck are you going on about you lunatic?
don't rant at me you cunt. if you have a point then make it.
'my money is on both', you pompous oaf.
if you are so keen on this country fighting wars at the behest of another country why don't you sign up for some action, you spineless cunt. quick to spill other people's blood, aren't you?
you fucking satanist.
Thick as - I don't know how you fit all that information in. Reminds me of the bloke selling the Encyclopaedia Britannica, didn't need it nay more, fucking wife knew everything.
Jon Snow is the most odious self-regarding little shit on the box, and always got a quick burst from the remote from me when his smug face came on.
Pompous jerkoff is a pimple on the arse of journalism, an utter, utter cunt.
Good on Harry Whoever, and if you can put D notices on the activities of Cabinet paedos, you can definitely put one on this.
I'd swop one Wales for for a boatload of snot-gobbling homosexual freaks and nancyboys.
I agree with someone above, it would be good to see one of those awful Bliar progeny in the line of fire to validate his cunt of a father's decisions.
Come out Gordo, climb down from your rocking-horse, and FUCK OFF.
Thick as shit.
You are an absolute idiot.
I don't believe that the will and desire of one man should be enough to get all our press to agree to a secrecy deal with the MoD.
Just because Harry wanted to fight doesn't mean he should. We can't always have what we want and our lives and circumstances dictate what we can and can't do...he is who he is.
It is not the media who would be putting Harry or his troop mates in danger - it is Harry and his determination to have his way.
If the media can enter into an agreement to withold information from the public it sets a dangerous precedent and personally, I find it deeply concerning.
Namaste,
Tina Louise
Arms Against War
i see diana flabot hasnt lost any weight this week!!!
The fat trotsky slapper!
anonemo @ 10:54pm and
anon@ 9:38pm
I agree with you both. Perhaps Guido could have occasionally a bit along the lines of http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/
but I doubt if our own worthless parasites have enough shame or physical courage to put themselves or their own in the line of fire. Nor the moral courage to put their careers/pensions in the metaphorical line of fire.
They and their senior civil servants will continue to direct the battle from thousands of miles behind the lines while sucking from the tits of those who are doing what they have little choice but to do what they have to do to stay out of prison.
The sooner all those who voted for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are jailed for war crimes the better.
Yes I know that there might be a case for saying that the invasion of Afghanistan was legal but we see every day on this site about the vermin who are supposed to represent us make up the rules/laws for their own benefit.
They claim to represent us but they don't have to cope with the same everyday problems as us. If they feel that they are about to have break into their salaries to survive they just vote themselves an extra pension/allowance/expense claim/subsidy (thank you Stanislav).
These drones cannot truly represent us because they do not undergo the same trials and tribulations as us.
Sorry to have rambled on so long but I am in the middle of a hefty belt of Laphroaig to try to get the though of the taste of our "betters" out of my mouth.
I wish I could just spit them out and stamp on them.
"Nothing doth hurt more in a state than that cunning men pass for wise." - Francis Bacon
>>'This gives me my best chance to be normal ... All my wishes have come true,' says Harry
Is it normal to go aboard in order to kill people? Do all young people his age consider that "normal" and is that what all their "wishes" are?
>>Harry: 'William wrote to tell me our mother would be proud'
WTF. How would he know? If she was still alive she may have been able to get him not to join the army but to do something more useful, like the good work she did for
the campaign against landmines, and with helping to decrease discrimination against victims of AIDS.
>>Harry: 'I would never want to put someone else's life in danger by being a bullet magnet'
So why join the army then?
>>Prince was told by the Queen he would go to war
Ah his old grandmother told him did she? WTF is the chain of command in the British Army then these days?
>>MoD praises British press for keeping Harry's deployment secret until foreign media leaked it
Ah yes ever the evil foreign media. Nope. It's just D-notices and threats "not to let them in on future Royal Stories" if they leak, cannot be used on foreign media.
How many people in the UK are so bored of endless Royal stories when the dead tree press should be actually investigating important issues that face the UK.
The "war" if that is what it is... is Not In My Name.
A new quest for the holy grail would perhaps be more useful and would involve far less : death, pain, suffering, destruction and future hate by generations to come.
Tina Louise, yeah, yeah, but show us..ah never mind, this is a family blog, or something - (has attack of conscience).
Phwoaar - TT, you there my son?
interesting question time tonight , galloway you just dont know if hes going to eat a panel member or not , mots of stuff was fairly useual , mr speaker quest seemed to not even discuss the problems of PM performances let alone other stuff.
but i give it to galloway on the DNa database problem "you cant trust the goverment to either lose yor data, sell your data , privatise your data or use it for somthing else"
but shows scotish politics and politicians can be a bit more sparky than we see with all the labour sleaze that goes on up there , still seem to have historic chips on shoulders sometimes though for me .
"yew lookin at me eh jimmy" , "yew wanna glasge kiss" always seems under the surface , i hope indepence doesnt turn into ice cream wars allover again.
but if it does they will have to go through it in there hsitory, but they pick some odd fights in the modern era.
Alex Delarge says:
"O/T but I'm in Haarlem tonight, Amsterdam without the Drunken Stag and Hen parties embarrassing decent folks. Beautiful place.
"Was last here thirty years ago when a lovelz dutch girl made my day big time."
Haarlem is indeed a wonderful place. I'd rather be there than almost anywhere. But a lovely Dutch girl? Some mistake, surely. The Dutch, apart from being the horticultural vandals of Europe, are also the world's ugliest people. There aren't any lovely ones. None.
Re 11.08 comment from 45GOVT. Is there a D Notice on Cabinet Paedos?? News to me.
Harry isnt involved in direct contact, he is calling in air strikes to blow up villages full of women and children, hardly heroic, on the other hand with the Americans history of dropping bombs on freinds who happen to be nearish to a target , maybe it does take some balls.
And why was he carrying his pistol like that, secured only by elastic?
I will tell you why,
HE WANTED TO LOOK COOL !
Has anybody seen his horse faced brother lately?
I want to see toilets maguire on the front line getting his fucking smug arse shot, twat he is!
God is this blog populated by a bunch of teenage boys? Cunt seems especially popular with the wee boys.
Swearing has it's place - but here it is so excessive that it just becomes tedious and quite juvenile. I guess a blog makes people more brave......
"Drudge : Harry Fighting Taliban Since December"
Lot of Pathan tribesmen in the 151 are there?
he is calling in air strikes to blow up villages full of women and children,
Hitch 7:49 In approx 2000-2002 some of the loudest voices begging for direct western involvement were womens' groups, notably RAWA which argued that being beaten to death by the Taliban for daring to go out and find some food when your husband had been slaughtered in one of their ill-judged actions, constitued an abuse of human rights.
As you rightly point out, dropping bombs on them may not be the most supportive of responses, but there was considerable pressure on the West to get involved. There are also good reasons for refusing to do so - but it would have meant abandoning those same women and children to a grisly fate.
The rhetoric of the RAWA website is unlikely to be to your taste - think of it as opera where language conventions apply. According to the Independent, the situation for the average Afghan woman is worse than ever, which probably accounts for why so many of them save the Taliban and the Western forces the trouble of bombing them and just pour petrol over themselves whilst there is still some fuel to be had.
Mark Wadsworth classifies Afghanistan as a narco-state and asks whether the solution to the mess lies on sorting out our drug policy here? The involment of one prince does not amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world, which is why Guido was right to ignore the subject and Drudge was wrong.
45 1:24am - dammit did I miss an important overnight decolletage-related development?
45govt [11.08]
"....and if you can put D notices on the activities of Cabinet paedos, you can definitely put one on this." - ???????
At least give us a clue....
Is Harry shooting up johnny foreigner with that Swastika still on his arm? Surely he'd be put to better use patrolling the streets of Swindon looking for Islamists armed with hammers.
That chip on the Hitch's shoulder must be agony.
This news blackout by agreement is reminiscent of what happened to the activities of Mrs Wallace before the Abdication crisis in the 1930s.
A free press?
And no, I would not want Harry or his comrades getting shot-up either.
Harry looks hot in combats! Yep, let's break this 'publicity photo shoot' down to it's basic component! Harry will be doing a Beckham y-fronts photo shoot soon. Mind you, it could be worse, Princess Eddie could be doing a 'Rambo' photo shoot.Gulp.
Top boy Hewitt!! The Talitubbies didn't notice Ginger sorting out Xena the modestly dressed WAAF at Kandahar (?) airfield.
No doubt there will be a full hour round up on Panoramadan.
Anonymous 9:09am
Shut up will you and piss off to conservative home. Cunt!
seventies reject aged 13 and three quarters.
to any moron who thinks the blackout was needed for harry's safety, surely the safest thing is for him not to join the army and train to be a killer in the first place.
also this revelation will improve the safety of all the other britsh soldiers in afghanistan as the taleban will only be aiming for harry
anon 11.20,
so, clever cunt, you tell me the reason we are fighting in afghanistan. tell me why our army was sent in, on the sly, by john reid. sent without sufficient troop numbers, resources and supplies.
you fucking arsehole.
anon 9.09,
don't worry, you are not a cunt.
you are a spastic!
if you don't like this place then fuck off back to radio four. wanker.
Dear Mr Anonymous, 9.09
Stanislav on cunt.
The use of the word cunt is more considered, subtle and expressive than you imagine, if you do imagining.
In the lexicon of profanity - that's like a dictionary, to you - cunt has long been the imprecation of last resort for people whose sensibilities have been basted by an often oppressive culture of uberCorrectness. Cunt is the word you don't say. Fine to say pussy, or, arcanely, fanny. Same thing, just a more acceptable set of letters. Somebody decided, quite arbitrarily, that the use of cunt diminished women, even though it doesn't, well, not as much as does cluster bombing them, a la Hoon. Fine to use slang names for body parts, male and female - prick, arse, tit, dick - as terms of abuse, and a custom dating from when, in the Beginning, was the word but cunt, somehow, got locked-away in a box of dirty No No words, like a linguistic nuclear deterrent; this explains its new currency, you stupid cunt.
When people behave as badly as those in Westminster there is absolutely no point in challenging them with rhetoric and sophistry, they are too stupid, Caroline Flint, Hazel Blears, Bob Ainsworth, they are fucking idiots; few of them can frame a sentence, let alone marshal an argument. Stupid cunts.
No, it is not infantile, nor teenage to hope that maybe Alistair Campbell's precious spawn, safe from military action, might say to him, one day, Dad, why does everybody call you a cunt ?
It is not infantile nor teenage to wish that degenerate, yet moralising MPs, sucking each others dicks in public toilets while publicly gay-bashing be challenged by their duped wives; why does everybody call you a hypocritical cunt, Mark or Jerry?
Lets face it, sweetheart, when you can see, online, any amount of granny abuse, bestial rape, paedophilia and sadism one little four letter word isn't actually going to plunge us further into a Sodom and Gomorrah de nos jours, we are already there. The use of the word cunt in these pages is not salacious and neither is it gender derogatory nor infantile but revolutionary; it says, I despise your phony egalitarianism, a pox on your values, I shit, clearly, on your nazi jargon, fuck you and your stinking hypocrisy, you are so repellent that I will deliberately choose, to describe you, a word which folks in your own cosy self-satisfied milieu consider barabarian, de trop, taboo; I don't give a fuck for your linguistic conventions, I am more concerned about you eviscerating Iraq babies, you cunt. I eschew your assumption that you are civilised, that there are civilised words, and uncivilised words, you cunt Hoon; you are the fucking obscenity. I call Hoon and the rest cunt, not out of some wish to write on a cyber toilet wall but because I know that foul, rank, blood-drenched, hypocrite war criminal that he is, his feathers will be ruffled; a poor substitute for life imprisonment but the best I can do.
Its not the use, here, of the word cunt over which you should tut-tut; it's the cunts themslves.
I hope this clarifies some of the idiosyncratic linguistic ocnventions hereabouts. I will trust to someone else to challenge your exquisite snobbery - swearing has its place. Fuck me, did you hear that on Radio 4 ?
Anon @ 9.39, do a little research, everyone else does. Google Dunblane Operation Ore, then ask yourself what is the need for a 100 (yes one hundred) year secrecy order.
The first thing I found on D notices - here, must be thousands of others. You think these people nice?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message370045/pg1
Dear Mr Anonymous 9.39
Google Dunblane Massacre, Thomas Hamilton, known paedophile, George Robertson, Firearms certificate referee, Malcolm Forsyth, Tony Blair, Operation Ore
there, lotsa clues
love from stanislav
Why thank you for that reply Mr Stanislav. Most enlightening.
It's not snobbery from me, far from it. Nor do I find cunt worse than any other word - I just note that it seems exceedingly popular on this site. I just think that excessive swearing makes for really tedious reading.
I guess I am from the less is more school of swearing.
Anon @ 9.09
I think Stanislav has probably covered the issue fully, but I would add that I have a sister-in-law who castigates me for using the word cunt, not because of it's innate offensiveness (it's raison d'etre), but she points out that a cunt is a useful thing, unlike the cunts we write about here - why not use haemorrhoid she says. Well what cunt can spell that without thinking?
You'll be all clear now I'm sure.
TT - not like you, Tina Louse 11.28 - definitely your area of expertise.
Three cheers (or possibly fanny-farts) for Stanislav, Emeritus Professor of Malediction.
In the goode olde dayes, a London A-Z would have listed Grope Cunt Lane (just up from Cheapside, I think;) a nice modern revival might be Cull Cunt Alley, with a suitable wall for the motherfuckers to get up against.
A cunt, of course, is also a schmuck. Be interesting to see if cunt is likewise softened over time with use.
Where's Euan Bliar?
His father gets all puffed up about how brave and honourable the armed forces are, his son must be a big dissappointment. The least the family could expect is that their own would stand up when their turn came.
Tony didn't go charging up that particular Goose Green in his youth but he made an astonishingly gung-ho REMF, cowardliness must be genetic, ....I suppose Euan's skulking round investment banks on his father's coat tails.
A new website me thinks....where'sEuanBliar.com that would upset his god aweful mother and the security services.
anon @ 1.09 good idea, but don't leave your readers in the dark about REMF, that most descriptive term coined by GI Joe.
Rear Echelon Mother Fucker. Haven't heard it in a long time - thank you.
Stanislav 11:20am
Bravo, BRAVO.
I am in awe, magnificent, would that I could write like that.
Thinks, what a wonderful piece of writing. It should be put in front of 'A' level examinees for critique. (Incidentally, I'm serious).
On second thoughts, it's really degree level.
All this talk about D-Notices .... the word seems to be the blackout on reporting was voluntary, not coerced.
You can bet there would be a great deal of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the usual suspects about censorship and so on if there had been one. So far I hear nothing.
I have mused betimes on our favoured term of abuse, i.e. cunt, versus that of our American cousins, to wit asshole. What would that nice Mr Freud have to say, I wonder?
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