Sleaze, Sleaze, Sleaze and More Sleaze
The Conway family firm will presumably go into liquidation come the next election. Guido understands that Derek is not unpopular in his constituency, nevertheless having a candidate who is known to have enriched himself out of the public purse to the degree that his family has, will provide ready capital to his opponents.Duncan Borrowman, his LibDem challenger has complained not only to the police about Derek, but about his son to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner.
More sleaze due today : Lord Hoyle is up in front of a Lords disciplinary committee this afternoon. He got caught taking cash for introducing an arms company lobbyist to the minister in charge of weapons purchases in the Lords.
Doug Hoyle was a former Labour MP and government whip before hopping on the unelected gravy train, although not a hereditary peer his son Lindsay is the MP for Chorley, so the family will suckle on the teat of the taxpayer for many years to come. If Doug is found guilty of abusing his position will Gordon Brown remove the Labour whip from him? Has the moral compass lost all sense of direction?
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Surely Hoyle will have his collar felt by Commander Yates, for theft, fraud, conspiracy to defraud, tax evasion, cash laundering, and of course SMIRKING at how he got away with it.....NOT
A philosophical question to consider. Which is worse - breaking the laws on external fund-raising for political office (with all the inherent risks for corruption this involves) or stealing from the public purse?
Do the different crimes merit different punishments?
Once you've reached your conclusions on the above, then you can properly judge the actions of the respective party leaders to their erring foot soldiers.
Me, I think DC's action was considered and correct.
Oh this site is like my second home!
Anyway, is anyone going to ask why MP's get such silly expenses?
Errr......maybe its because the pay is shit but the dumb fuck public wont stomach the going rate so it all gets fudged round the back door which in turn encourages fiddling!
That's one angle on it I suppose.
Byee
I have just been listening to the 'Today' programme and was astonished, if not completely shocked to find out that these sort of shenanigans are protected under a kind of FoI umbrella.
These bastards voted to keep public scrutiny and Freedom of Information [sic] away from their expenses and suchlike because they are 'Honourable' [sic] and they think we are too stupid to care if they are 'on the make and on the take'.
As today's Mail reveals, I think many more journos and bloggers will now be truffling around to find out who else is 'at it'. Practically guaranteed that someone else is playing this little game.
Maybe we should offer some sort of 'sleaze amnesty' if MPs come clean by this Friday - and that then we allow Guido to 'Unleash hell' as Russell Crowe used to say.
Methinks Guido should treat the 3 jokers in the picture below as his 'main course' [meat and two vegetables], saving Ken Livingstone for dessert...
Now who could he have as his 'coffee and petit fours' ?....
The blood is in the water, and the sharks are circling for 'Lord' Hoyle..
This is more fun than watching 'Jaws'...
[cue music..]
The Virger asks which is worse - breaking fund-raising laws or creaming from public funds.
They are as bad as eachother. Unfortunately for Conway, his offence is more tangible. Failing to declare donations is a technical offence which, however serious the consequences for democracy, most people can't get their heads around. But hundreds of thousands of parents are struggling to put their kids through university; they can immediately associate with the Conway scam. It makes better headlines.
Twas ever thus.
OT - Looking at that rogues' gallery of Harperson, Johnson and Wee Wendy prompts a thought - Are DPM Hattie Harperson and famed mortgage advisor Tessa Jowell one and the same person?
Their similar looks, and seeming inability to talk sense, surely suggest they are at least twins.
Has anyone seen them in the same room together
The picture of the Conway family on the front of the Daily Mail appears to be a doctored version of the picture on front of the Daily Telegraph.
the virger said...
A philosophical question to consider. Which is worse - breaking the laws on external fund-raising for political office (with all the inherent risks for corruption this involves) or stealing from the public purse?
Do the different crimes merit different punishments?
Once you've reached your conclusions on the above, then you can properly judge the actions of the respective party leaders to their erring foot soldiers.
Me, I think DC's action was considered and correct.
8:48 AM, January 30, 2008
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virger they are both the same.
both dishonest dealings with large sums of money, one has corruption implications and one public money.
why are you trying to find degrees of seriousness? your not wee wendy are you?
what is worse robbing banks or robbing post offices?
yes dave eventually did the right thing after dithering where gordon did a tony and is trying to ride it out at all costs.
Gordon has undermined his parties credibility - if that was at all possible and now dave has scored points over him.
Gordon now looks very week, though dave was week to start with.
otto - this picture is from the 'Conway Christmas Card' - LoL !
Talking of Russell Crowe, perhaps he could play Mr Fawkes in a new film about Order-Order..
The Guidiator...!
Byline 'The man who puts the fear of Guido into politicians..' or
"The man who makes politicians think ' There, but for the grace of Guido, go I'"
I think our MPs really believe that the British system is largely free from corruption and morally superior to other regimes. Surely a classic case of groupthink – an unquestioning belief in their own moral rightness and a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group? I cannot think of any other reason why they would ever have thought that Conway’s actions were anything other than fraud, or that cash for peerages was acceptable provided there was no trail showing a direct link, or that married MPs sharing he same house should both be allowed separate housing allowances. The sight of our MPs licking the cream off each others’ whiskers and purring about their rectitude is truly sickening.
Now, Guido, go for the Balls!
So you remove the whip, wow! big deal, still getting salary etc.
Any MP of any party caught with hand in cookie jar, hand cut off, thrown out simple!
McBean doesn't acually have a moral compass, does he?
You should all read "The Triumph of the political class" by Peter Oborne. Singularly, the most depressing book I have ever read. He will open your eyes to the wanton corruption not only at a financial level but also at a philosophical one. THe latter most obviously demonstrated in the belief that so many politicians seem to have that they are above the law and fiscal scrutiny.
An MP can make a claim for £250 without a receipt. Says it all.
They should be treated like us all when making expence claims.
I could not even claim as a company executive for money in a parking meter when on company business I had to find a car park where I could obtain a receipt.
It would have broken Inland Revenue rules
The whole thing stinks and it is led by Labour, at least Cameron has acted unlike Brown
Dear Guido.
Do you know what your blog and others have done?
They've finally started to remove the establishment force field erected by the traditional print and broadcast media protecting their interests and paymasters.
The politicians are starting to realise that these blog things are a real threat to their cosy existence.
Keep up the good work, old chap.
The Daily Mail has photo shopped DC's daughter out of the picture. How very... deferential.
STOP THE PRESS! Have you seen that New Lab conspiracy is seeking to make future propping up of banks secret! Why? Because the nabking system is f8ck$d in the UK. The economy is going down the toliet and they're trying to cover it up! These crooks days are numbered.
Possibly a very simple reason why expenses limits are so high for our revered MP’s. They do not bring on the scrutiny of Tax Inspectors. I believe that expenses are classed as non-taxable.
Its very important to draw a distinction between a greedy twat like Conway fiddling personal expenses, for which he will rightly loose his job, and nulabs institutionalised sleeze, which is far, far worse and costs the taxpayer billions of pounds.
Because nulab types are largely incapable of achieving success in normal business terms, their only avenue to enrich themselves is from the public purse. Hence the dodgy PFI contracts and crapita donations, the vaccine related K's , the contract awards to Opinion Leader Research etc.
And anyone who thinks hain didn't pocket the money from his little round of financing is dreaming.
GUIDO,
You may be interested to learn that No. 10 now have a new 'Stop Guido Unit'.
It isn't called that of course - It has a typically asinine title along the lines of 'Forward Risk Horizon Scanning Unit'. Whereas in the past things like the 'Rapid Rebuttal Unit' dealt with the mainstream press, they have now realised the danger from the blogosphere.
Of course, it isn't really a 'Stop Guido Unit', more of an 'early warning radar' for threats from the blogosphere, wherever and whenever they might appear. Sadly taxpayer funding won't run to a full 'funky bunky' underground bunker with loads of flashing lights and screens.
But it is pretty cosy with tea and coffee always on tap, Danish pastries delivered every morning, and a bell to ring everytime an 'all hands to the pump' [phones] situation presents itself..
Second thoughts on Virger's question, "which is worse?"
Conway's crime was fingers in the till - only money, as they say. Labour's crooks seek to undermine democracy itself - a far more serious crime in the long run. (And Dave handled it better.)
Our inability to distinguish between the two, or to see the most obvious crime as the more serious, is what has taken Britain down the shit-hole already.
If "Guidiator" is to be made, bags I be Proximo. 45govt could be Marcus Aurelius. The Hitch would, of course, do a gratuitous guest appearance ias Caligula.
Ah, Lindsay Hoyle. He was a very 'interesting' leader of Chorley Council. I remember his banter with a Deputy from the Finance Department very well.
"The Commons Green Book governing MPs' allowances states: "The location of your main family home will normally be a matter of fact. If you have more than one home, your main home will normally be the one where you spend more nights than any other."
Normally, i.e. not always.
9:53 PM, January 29, 2008
So where does Blinky spend his abnormal nights?
Eileen Critchley 8:52AM said...
"Errr......maybe its because the pay is shit but the dumb fuck public wont stomach the going rate so it all gets fudged round the back door which in turn encourages fiddling!"
And what pray is "the going rate"? Do you mean that we should pay some kind of inflated euro-salary to the fat bastards? The pay's not shit at all - it's well above the national average, and more than most people drinking in my local earn. Then there's the funding for MP's pensions - once again considerably better than anyone in my local gets. I'd suggest that MP's pay be set at the national average wage - that way the greedy fuckers can all take a pay cut.
Guido 8:45AM said...
"...although not a hereditary peer his son Lindsay is the MP for Chorley, so the family will suckle on the teat of the taxpayer for many years to come."
Too true. Though he might not be a hereditary peer, he's one of the "parliamentary nobility". The easiest way to become an MP is to have a close relative in the place.
conway and co (the long established family business) , it seems his constituants are no too pleased , safe tory seat lot of pensioners who feel hard done by!!
blink apparatus has managed to lose loads of votes , but jim nightie is taking the flak "errr its a necessry budget cut to downgrade rural life further and bung village kids in factory pfi buildings so they dont look like gross overspends".
best bit of the day , just been to market and a bloke is selling some mugs with a not so good photo of gordo on them , with cow horns sticking out from his head.
with the words BULLSHIT BROWN.
they were going like hot cakes.
the commotion was better than the mugs.
The DTP really does not get it. Peter Riddell says in the Times "The number of wrongdoers is probably very small." Who the f**k is he kidding. The 'corruption' at Westminster is endemic. Why are Cabinet Ministers allowed to claim allowances for London homes when they live in taxpayer provided accommodation (eg at No 10 & 11 Downing Street). Why does the Commons not enforce employment law - were the jobs advertised, was their discrimination, for real researchers are they paying a rate in compliance with the minimum wage legislation (e.g. how many hours was the £11k supposed to cover?).
It all stinks and needs to be cleaned up and properly transparent.
Keep up the good work.
~Well at least Conway kept it in the family!!though it was a tad ill-considered of him to sign that letter about IDS's wife getting paid!
As for Hoyle that is throughly immoral and unethical.
Conway has simply done what everyone does.
No doubt we need to look at the tithing of the NuLab boyo's and the impact of services provided by unions at constituency level and elsewhere.
Overall we are in danger of losing track and perspective, which of course will suit NuLab very fine, given the depth of Snoutusintroughus that they are in. Muddying the waters with minor and insignificant issues, that have quickly been dealt with, gives the lie that they have similar insignificant peccadilloes.
What a start to the year! Corrupt, greedy, thieving shit from all parties being trodden into the ground :)
They are all in it up to their necks. Much of it is on public record. Merely glancing through Peter Oborne's excellent book The Rise of the Political Class gives a couple of great examples (page 213)
-Labour MP Janet Anderson recived 16,612 in mileage allowance. The statistics showed she drove an average of 222 miles to her Lancashire constituency (Rossendale & Darwen) and back every day the commons sat in 2006.
-Tory MP Jacqui Lait pocketed £6,716 in mileage for 20,000 miles worth of car journeys. Jacqui's constituency is 10 miles from Westminster
-Diane Abbot spen £2,235 on taxis but she sits for Hackney which is just over 5 miles from Westminster
-John Reid employed his son Kevin as a parliamantary researcher but Kevin actually worked full time for the Labour Party. Reid further pressured witnesses to the Parliamentary commissioner for Standards not to give evidence on this scandal(page 220)
-David Blunkett claimed £20,000 to cover the cost or renting a cottage in the Chatsworth Estate. This cottage lies 15 miles from Blunkett's Sheffiled constituency where he owned a home (page 211)
If you look at the table of members expenses, you see the same number over and over again in the columns. The MPs are not claiming expenses but the maximum they are allowed in the expense category e.g. Additional Costs Allowance Basically MPs expenses are in many cases a salary bonus.
oh joy blink apparatus is going to give new guidlines to teachers , to not use mummy and daddy in case kids from gay couples are offended . report commisoned by a never heard off edu group,and done by stonewall.
daily mail blogg buzzing already , it should top 100 by the end of the day.
oohh blinky you charmer !!
gordons got bunkers disease , arse glued to toilet seat , scribbled notes to be passed under bog door.
dave cameron action , speaks common sense on stop and search , jaqui (poss health sec) suddenly claims its what they were going to do , tony macnulty just sounds so like mandleson.
EU jamboree barroso tried not be in same photo shoot , the other grimaced and beared it. transparency in banking , well i would get to grips with euro expenses first before rushing into the international banking scene.
Guido-don't spend too much time gloating over Conway's rotting corpse
Get onto the NACPO/Electoral Commission "arrangement"
1) Does it apply to the whole U.K ?
2) By what authority have the Police unilaterally decided to remove all citizen's rights to have (admitted) wrongdoing investigated unless sanctioned by an unelected third party?
3)Was this prompted by NuLab political appointees on NACPO?
4)Does it explain why Harman/Bendy Wendy et al have become so sure that they are above the law?
5) Is it the beginning of two tier justice i.e offences by the political classes are pre-filtered before the Police are called in?
Putin may have a separate car lane but even he doesn't have a separate justice system
Get to it Guido-there's a lot of mileage in this one
The more I fully see this so-called democracy in action the more depressed I get. We have been converted into a Stasi state by a collection of self-seekers.
It's all ticking boxes these days rather than having to think whether something is right or wrong.Any chance on HIGHLIGHTING the housing shenaningins. COOPER / BALLS in particular
Talking of films, I wonder if Guido has seen 'No Country for Old Men' yet ?
I wonder if people in Parliament will now have the same response as I did seeing this film, that if there is a big bag of cash lying around, there is just too much hassle involved in picking it up ?
And does Guido remind me of the Javier Bardem character in the film ? I couldn't possibly comment..
Over this Derek 'Dumped by Cameron' Conway, we see the blogosphere in its true colours..
Guido has gone for the jugular.
Iain Dale is, I'm sorry to say, fatally compromised, and is starting to look more like part of the problem than the solution.
His media tarting for the BBC, and having a foot in the Main Stream Media camp, courtesy of the Daily Telegraph, have compromised his objectivity.
Dale is now starting to look more like the cosy nexus of media and establishment luvvies that look after each others' interests, and cover up bedroom related shenanigans, in a way that Private Eye has been exposing for years.
Arguments about which sort of fraud is worse, or how we stack up against other countries (a la Paxman last night comparing us with Italy) are just noise. It's very simple -
- this is our money these gits are claiming or spending, supposedly for our benefit
- we need straightforward rules, easily understood and enshrined in law
- we need effective policing and prosecution of those laws, with zero tolerance for transgressors
- we need total transparency - everything on the public record and no hiding behind FOI provisions
- we need urgent review of every MP's expenses over say the last 3 years, with expulsion for anyone who has defrauded us by, say, £5k or more.
After all, as they say when trying to foist ID cards on us, if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear.
Oh, I forgot one thing - these gits are the one's who would have to agree to and implement all this - classic Catch 22. Nothing for it but Her Maj will have to order something like the above.
As a humble member of the proletariat, may I say how heart warming it was to see the family of one of our leading oligarchs on the front pages of our news-sheets this morning. I especially enjoyed seeing the wife of said oligarch in her splendid fur coat, paid for, no doubt, by public subscription. How hard and how selflessly these people work on our behalf.
anon 10:43 - one wonders what Pericles would make of this lot; I cannot imagine he envisioned the current toxic combination of the welfare state and cheap travel when he cooked (or at least reheated) the idea.
Once one has a full time (I hesitate to use the word professional) political class, what we see happening now is the only possible harvest IMHO.
As a start, have them bid for their all-in salaries (no pensions, no perks, no expenses, just the vanilla number) at the time of their election, that's what I say!
Isn't it so open and transparet to be a feminist Minister, using one's maiden name on websites, campaign literature, MSM interviews, whilst keeping quiet that one's husband is employed as a secretary willing to write supportive letters to local press and constituents, and trying to fool them all at the same time.
It would be discourteous to insist on pettifogging rules to control the behaviour of honourable Members of Parliament.
Unfortunately after years of compromise, spin, and some criminality, I do not beleive that Members of Parliament can be assumed to be honourable.
They will have to be put under the same authoritarian yoke as the rest of us.
I could be fined automatically for driving a few miles over the posted speed limit, irrespective of the circumstances and whether or not there was any risk to others. A similar rigour should be applied to MPs.
I would be prepared to pay MPs a higher salary in exchange for effective control and limitation of their expenses. Most businesses can manage the administrative effort, and there are plenty of Civil Servants...
Remember Blunkett?
The point about David Blunkett wasn't that he is disabled but that he is a thief. He took first classs train tickets for his lover, who he knew was someone else's spouse. Blunkett is a rich man, unlike most disabled people he could afford to buy train tickets. Yet he was so greedy he stole tax payers money. Taxes that are raised most heavily from the poor and Blunkett saw fit to treat his girlfriend with this. Then when caught he said he thought you could claim travel for other people's wives if they were committing adultery, like a shop lifter caught with goods saying he was going to pay. I would be sacked for claiming expenses on behalf of others, but Conway, Hoyle and Blunkett, to name a few, think stealing from poor tax payers is fine as long as their pockets are full.
BASTARDS!!
Anon @ 9.549, do tell us more.
Fuchsia groan - that's not his wife, it's his son, who seems to have few marriage plans.
Surely this is just the sort of "income splitting" about which Darling has complained, and is covered by the new legislation.
HMRC take the attitude that unless you can prove that the employee was employed in the business the costs should be disallowed. So, a refund to
the taxpayer, a disallowance by HMRC and a criminal prosecution.
Not a bad days work.
And shouldn't someone in the Parliamentary expenses office actually check some of these expenses?
Guys, did you see the crap about the prisons fiasco? Well, I have it on good authority the NEXT prison will be attached to the Palace of Westminster, to save the cost of prison transport!!
Brown's PMQ's performance abject beyond belief!
Who needs John Humpfreys to make MPs squirm on Radio 4 when I can read Guido and get the Xrated attack on the money grabbing so and sos!
Go Guido - sick em! Grrrrr
New Statesman seems to have a hint how Henry Conway used the money.
I'm sorry, but I think it's an absolute tragedy when another family firm goes bust
The Senior Salaries Review Body recommended a fortnight ago, “it would help to increase public confidence in the system of reimbursing MPs’ expenditure if MPs were to agree that each year a small sample of MPs, perhaps 5 to 10 per cent, were to have their claims audited by the National Audit Office”. But this suggestion has been resisted by some senior MPs. Such a package would not undermine MPs’ independence and should be linked to an urgent tidying-up of the rules on outside donations, now confusingly split between Parliament and the Electoral Commission.
WHAT rubbish, it MUST be 100% MPs audit, that will catch the thieving bastards!!
Well Done Guido. Yoi of all people and your Bloggers must take 99% of the credit for exposing the Conway Gravy Train.
You have saved the conservatives from much trouble in the polls and forced Cameron to act!
You must now start a crusade into the adoption of an Anti Nepotism Act, the introduction of receipts needed for all expenses (above £250only is not satisfactory) and an Annual Audit of all MPs Financial Affairs.
Go at it BOY!!
MPs at Question time were very silent on the matter- Perhaps it is an extensive racket which needs sorting.
@ Casual Observer asked
"McBean doesn't actually have a moral compass, does he?"
The answer is that Brown does have a moral compass, as do most of the Labour party. However, as most students of science know, when a compass is placed in a magnetic field, the compass changes direction. In this case, Labour compasses in a field of money change from pointing to a pole labelled honesty, to a pole labelled sleaze.
Didn't notice a Labour feed question for Gordy at PMQs referring to the Conway matter - Labour surprisingly quiet on this - I wonder why?
Maybe I missed it while dropping off with Gordy spouting off for the nth time about more expenditure, er sorry, 'investment' in response to almost every question he was asked.
Hurrah!
All three MPs on 5 Live's PMQ's discussion say they would not support a ban on MPs employing family members as hinted at by the Chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life
Mr Bean - yes he of the claw hand - couldn't answer a straight question to save his life. So what hope any of his lackey ministers, SpAds or senior civil-servants?
Daily Politics today - C. Flint: I like the way it is alright for feminist ministers to have a hubby at home doing the domestics but it 'terrible' for a man to have a wife to do the same. (I think the other 'anon' at 11:18 AM has a similar point of view)
Friday October 26, 2007 Guardian
A Labour peer has admitted taking money to introduce an arms company lobbyist to the government minister in charge of weapons purchases. The case of "cash for access" in the House of Lords is likely to ignite fresh concern about ethical standards in parliament.
The lobbyist paid cash for an introduction to Lord Drayson, the defence minister in charge of billions of pounds of military procurement, according to evidence obtained by the Guardian.
Money changed hands with former Labour frontbencher Lord Hoyle, previously Doug Hoyle, an ex-government whip and former MP for Warrington.
The lobbyist, Michael Wood, who trades as Whitehall Advisers, agreed to pay Lord Hoyle an undisclosed sum in June 2005. MoD documents released to the Guardian show that Lord Hoyle then engineered a private meeting between Mr Wood and the newly appointed defence minister.
Mr Wood is a former RAF officer who works for BAE and other smaller arms companies to help get them contracts. He has free run of the palace of Westminster because he has a security pass as a "research assistant" to another MP. He operates his company from his nearby flat.
Paying cash for ministerial introductions is a practice frowned on at the House of Lords, but not specifically outlawed. "Cash for introductions" is forbidden by the main lobbyists' trade body, the Association of Professional Political Consultants, but Mr Wood is not a member.
Scottish Labour sleaze.....A SENIOR Edinburgh councillor who failed to declare details of a post that has earned him up to £400,000 is to have his funding cut by the city council.
Labour councillor Ian Perry is being investigated by the Standards Commission for not registering his employment with the little-known Wester Hailes Education and Training Managers Group. Now Cllr Perry is also set to lose the funding for his £40,000-a-year post, which he has held for ten years.
The council's children and families department has been funding Mr Perry's post via Stevenson College, from where he is seconded.
A separate part-time post, administrative support and funding for vocational projects will also be cut, saving the local authority around £70,000 a year.
A report to go before councillors on February 21 states that WHETMG is the only such organisation in the whole of the city that receives similar funding.
It reads: "Wester Hailes is the only area in Edinburgh to receive funding for this purpose on this scale. While the project has initiated valuable partnership approaches to supporting back to work and training and education programmes, much of this work is now embedded into the partner's programmes."
And though the council won't reveal if the funding cut is linked to the revelations about Cllr Perry, sources said senior Lib Dem councillors were furious when they discovered he was taking a £40,000 annual salary from council coffers and acted immediately.
A council source said: "When this all came to light they were flabbergasted that the council had been paying out this money for so long, that's why it is coming up at the budget meeting."
Cllr Perry, a representative for Southside/Newington and Labour's finance spokesman, had stated on his register of interests that he was a lecturer at Stevenson College, although information obtained by the Evening News under the Freedom of Information Act showed thathe hadn't worked there since 1998.
Bloody Criminal!!
look , we covered all this yesterday.
I gave a friend a ringing endorsement for his years of good service , explained about his little faux Pas, and he got a bit of pasting from the headboy.
No more Whippy for a week , and serve him right.
But , I am aghast to read in telegraph that this whole sorry episode is continuing. Look for yourself , bally story just goes on .. more revelations blah blah ..
why it's like that dreadful neverenders program the nanny watches .. on and on .. [good tune to it though , used to be able play it on the bellows ]
Anyway i think that this isn't in the public intrest any longer and lets have no more of it tomorrow. After all chaps got work to do , can't be sitting around here all day reading about chums troubles ..
no , much more sitting around and reading needed to be done at work ..
darling wheres my hat ?
Some good comments here, I think (not that I'm an expert, but as a not-particularly-party-political type, I can at least evaluate situations to some extent the way the public might perceive them).
Overall, Cameron's response was probably the right approach to take. I know myself that immediate "gut reactions" can be flawed, and I too would wish to acquaint myself with more detail than had appeared in public thus far before taking a "one-way street" decision. Any decent manager or similar would do the same, I hope.
One night cannot make any real difference, and in the months and years to come Cameron's approach will, I am sure, come to be seen as having been the proper way to deal with this kind of issue.
Conway is standing down according to Al Beeb.
It's clear this money wasn't going on his website which has been *site under construction - please check back soon* - since 18/10/2006
see it here: http://www.derekconway.com/
I thought his son was supposed to be helping him with computing side of things??
[b]Anonymous said...
New Statesman seems to have a hint how Henry Conway used the money.
12:49 PM, January 30, 2008[/b]
Call be old fashioned, but sorry, I object to my taxes being paid to allow, an until now, unknown shit stabber to write shite on fashion.
Sky news:
Disgraced Conservative MP Derek Conway will stand down at the next General Election.
He still has a "job" as an 'independent' for 2 1/2 years -
then he retires on full pension -
mmmm... the crime still does not suit the punishment!
Change the record BBC
How serious do you think this is ?
Paxman's generic question to every issue
This site is wonderful. BBC R4 Today, BBC R4 PM, C4 7pm News and BBC2 Newsnight often pickup on what Guido has posted here. They they try to pretend that they don't. Next the NuLab and Con Spin doctors pick up on it and try and spin their way out of pooh.
It used to be said that the UK Parliament was the mother of all Parliaments. Well the news is that this mother needs to be checked in for rehab and a long detox programme ASAP.
What of today?
The lastest NuLab SPAM is:
"enable the Bank of England and Financial Services Authority (FSA) to launch a secret takeover of a failing bank, in a bid to prevent a repeat of last year's run on Northern Rock."
WTF! Allow OUR money to be wasted in secret without reporting it!
This is like a US Black Project.
I'm surprised that the CONs and LIBS seem to go along with the idea.
SHITS and CROOKS.
Let failed banks and failing bank FAIL/CRASH and FOLD!!
UK PLC can no longer live on credit.
refs:
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/business-and-industry/darling-extend-bank-takeover-powers-$484998.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_project
Thanks Mr Guido for a great site.
Heard that Conway is standing down whilst in car on way home, so only now can salute the incredible success of Guido and ConsHome and, yes, Iain Dale (or his posters), in bringing home to someone high up just how seriously we all judged the actions of this grubby little shit.
Um, who is this pompous John M Ward cunt?
Phil5, your questions answered
http://tinyurl.com/39k2fq
Delusional crackhead, I reckon. Either that or fumbled the url and blundered in from shipoffools.com
Has anyone ever toted up what Kinnock and Sons (a Family Business) PLC is currently worth?
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