The Labour Party is in the Dock
The list of Labour Party figures who look likely to find themselves in the courts this year is getting longer; David Abrahams (or whatever he is calling himself today), Peter Watt, Peter Hain, Wendy Alexander and Harriet Harman, plus a potential supporting cast of intermediaries, advisers and party apparatchiks as defendants.Some 28,800 people were prosecuted last year by Hain's former department, the DWP, for failing to declare income. Many were prosecuted for small amounts of money. Poor people.
They were unable to use the defence that they were too busy, that it was an innocent mistake, or that they forgot. Peter Watt conspired to break the law, David Abrahams concocted a scheme to circumvent the law, Wendy Alexander broke the law as did Harriet Harman. If they are not prosecuted it will mean that we are not all equal before the law, the rich and powerful can treat it with contempt. Should it be acceptable that a single mother on benefits who does a bit of hairdressing for cash gets prosecuted, whereas a former Minister of the Crown gets the benefit of the doubt? No ifs, no buts, lawmakers can't be allowed to be law breakers.
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Hear hear! Maybe you should change the name from Guido Fawkes to Robin Hood.
Well put. And a good performance last night.
All in all, a good weeks work.
you're a good man Fawkes!
Well said Guido.
But, there will be a little pressure placed, busy man, government minister, inappropiate to make an example etc etc. The little shyster shit will get off.
I'd like to see him do time, with so-called benefit cheats, if only for the schadenfruede and the revenge for what the cunt did, way back, to cricket and rugby matches.
Might also be delayed comeuppance for that alleged bank robbery......as if BOSS would waste valuable resource on him.
" lawmakers can't be allowed to be law breakers."
Although you may want to make an exception for Nick Clegg, who is going to oppose ID cards even if it means breaking the law..
I asked the same question of Iain Dale - why did Hain need all this money for an election?
Don't MPs elect the Deputy PM (whatever that might be)
why is money needed? On what is it spent? This is a non job, a joke, a Gilbert and Sullivan title.
Please enlighten us as to where it has gone.
A fish rots from the head up and the Labour government is no exception. All these corrupt, fiddling, little spivs like Harriet Harman, Wendy Alexander, Peter Watt, Jon Mendelson etc take their lead from their weirdo boss Gay Gordon and his personal slush fund the Smith Institute.
This government and the Labour Party hierarchy are rotten to the core.
The word is already out in the Evening Standard that it is unlikely that there will any prosecutions regarding Abrahams, Watts and others because "The law is new and untested".
How bloody typical! *#@$ How else do you test a law than by charging some folk and getting them into a courtroom.
I really am losing all faith in a civilised Britain. It's true what that judge said, we are nothing more than a banana republic.
A few Labour figures associated with a few random words just plucked out of the air:- i) Hain- corrupt, hypocritical, hopeless, over-promoted; ii) Wendy Alexander- corrupt, hypocritical, hopeless, over-promoted; iii) Gordon Brown- corrupt, hypocritical, hopeless, over-promoted. What a coincidence. The same words just happened to float into my mind when the above names came up! What are the chances? Probably the same as Hain just making an honest mistake over his campaign donations declarations/omissions!
The Nulab spin machine went into overdrive this morning on the Today programme, when snot rag's replacement answered all good questions with slagging everyone else but Nulab. Look into his cupboard and see what's there.
You got a hat tip from the Hackney Harridan, Dianne Abbott last night on 'This Week'......
She said "Hain's demise was all down to Guido Fawkes.... It was a blogging thing".....
As we aooear to be in Gilbert & Sullivan land, "let the punishment fit the crime".
It would be a fitting irony, should Hain lose his parliamentary seat as well, as a result of "having to clear his name" that he should end up having to fill in his own B7 forms....
Oh happy day!
With this many they'll need a new department to co-ordinate it.
Funding, anybody?
Ordinary Housewife.... the answer to your question - "why did Hain need all this money for an election?" was so eloquently answered on Question Time last night by Alex James, former member of pop combo Blur and currently the spokesperson for the younger generation so favoured by the Tarquins at the BBC:
"er, yeah, like marketing costs a lot...£250k (sic.) is nuffing...snort, snuffle..... wanna buy some cheese....."
ordinary housewife said...
"Don't MPs elect the Deputy PM .... why is money needed?"
It isn't just the MPs who vote for the Deputy Leaders post. A third of the votes go to MPs and MEPs, a third to party members and a third to members of affiliated trade unions.
The whole election cost about £2,000,000.
The 2005 Conservative leadership election was also expensive.
Let me add my congrats Guido.
I suggest you avoid TV and radio now though as it is more effective to dominate the political blogs niche, as you do, to represent the silent, over-taxed, hardworking majority that is your readership base.
You'll also drive the NuLab Beeb into a frenzy trying to get you on air: and some satisfaction in that.
Guido - Zoro?
Indeed how do you test a new law except by taking forward cases that appear to contravine it?
New Labour - New Sleaze - New Arrogance
I thought the Media types on last night's Newsnight seemed a little sniffy with respect to Bloggers. I suppose they risk loosing their well-paid jobs.
Perfect opportunity for Cameron at PMQ's next:
"Will the Prime Minister confirm that all those in the Labour Party who have broken Electoral Law will be subject to a prosecution so that they can either clear their names in open Court or accept punishment? Alternatively will he confirm that he will use his influence to try to raise the Labour Party above the Law?"
80 Conservative MPs were recently reported to the Electoral Commission for alleged law-breaking by the Labour Party. So it is not really right for the leader of the Labour Party, in between scoffing fingerloads of his own snot, to say that he doesn't ewant the 'rules' (=Law) applied to his own people.
Couldn't agree more!
Just shows how far down the road to a banana republic we have gone.
Democracy? Your having a laugh!
Question is-what are the Brits going to do about it?
Answer-absolutely nothing !!
(Most other western world countries would though!)
It's small beer in the scheme of things.
It is still amazing to me that no-one got prosecuted over loans for lordships and the fact that Slezy Levy was openly selling honors for cash to the Labour party. A MSM that shits in our faces didn't howl about so obvious a perversion of justice.
David Perry QC the man who facilitated this perversion in conjunction with Carmen Dowd head of the laughable CPS, your cards are truly marked come the right revolution in 2010.
There are many scores to be settled and many promises to keep.
Guido, your gloating over the abject departure of Hain is hereby excused!
The Rule of Law is a cornerstone of democracy and civilized life. Once it goes, the rest goes too.
Alexander and Harman should have resigned long ago.
GF, which one do m'learned friends think should be the easiest to make something stick against ? Establish that fact, then look very , very closely at their dealings.
nulab = serially incompetent
criminally corrupt
Guido - You've ALL got it all wrong - get YOUR nose in the trough - join them - easy way to get away with fiddling the books, get second homes with state assistance, brilliant ever increasing pension, great expenses (no receipts required), free foreign holidays for you and the wife, (partner, mistress etc), fantastic entertaining (now with bonus payments for taking the extra weight off every so many months, free transport (don't forget the wife!),more expenses, free lessons in arrogance to the ordinary people - and even more expenses, JOIN THE LABOUR PARTY AND BE AN MP - NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE OF ANYTHING REQUIRED !
nick clegg should be arrested for presiding over such a bunch of perverts in his party.
but to the point, new labour has been manic regarding law making and taxing. that's what happens when you have so may solicitors hanging around parliament.
their excuses of non compliance of the laws regarding donations and now think tanks show that they have clearly been passing ill thought out, poorly draughted legislation that even those who so recently passed it are now questioning it.
creating law is a serious business, one which the infantile labour party has proved they are not fit to do. get the industrial shredder out dave, a lot of the shit labour have produced will need to be repealed.
Perhaps the frenetic law making was also an act of propaganda so labour could say look how powerful parliament and your democracy is, when in fact the traitors were giving real powers to that rotten borough the eu, just a thought.
Well said. I only wish you had said as much on Newsnight, though I appreciate the time constraints you were under.
Well done - keep up the pressure! JD.
Strange. The IPSOS/Mori website lists all the major political polls that are carried out and the results going back years. Usually there are 4 or more polls carried out in January. So far this January there have been none.
Of course the papers pay for these polls to be done. So who is pulling the strings to ensure that none of the papers produce any polls? Something tells me it ain't Wavy Davy.....
http://www.ipsos-mori.com/polls/trends/voting-allpub-trends.shtml
I recently had a run in with the VAT inspectorate.
Two of them spent two days at my company at great expense to their employer (the tax payer). After this time they found a mistake amounting to £5.50, on a fuel scale charge. The fuss and threats they made where deeply concerning.
So I put about checking the data myself. Not to my surprise I found a larger error, requiring a refund from the C&E of £475.26. The payment arrived today.
As any small business man will tell you. ITS HELL OUT HERE. As soon as things get even slightly harder many of the small business community will either retire or give up the struggle, without hesitation.
For this reason alone, any government politician even caught inflating the cost of their paper clips, should be publicly and very slowly boiled in oil.
A simple hanging, castration, followed by live dismemberment, is just not good enough, for these people.
What about the Lib Dems and the £2.4 million donation from Michael Brown. The EC say they don't want to make any statements that might put them in contempt of court and the police are supposed to still be investigating.
I doubt that Harman's case will go much further unless someone can show that she knew about Abrahams and his proxies.
Alexander should be toast though. Robinson on the BBC was apologetic, but he seems to have ignored the fact that she wrote a letter to the donor in Jersey, and then her people tried to cover up the story.
Guido, my guess is that having been brought up well, you are temperamentally incapable of interrupting others.
May I suggest therefore, that you insist that any further tv appearances feature just you and an interviewer. It seems to me that your intellect will enable you to more than cope with the Paxmans of the world.
More power to your elbow.
Purnell is on Al-BBC saying that the Labour Party is not "tainted".
James - you'll need more than photoshop to help you here!
As the great Peter Oborne says, the Labour party is a criminal organisation who has sytematically sold access and favours to businessman. If a private organisation had acted in such a manner its accountable executives would be charged with fraud and crimninal conspiracy.
It is high time for a new government as I'm not sure Brown will make it through to the summer?
If Hain claims not to have known about the funds obtained to support his election campaign it follows that he did not know how these monies were spent. If funds were obtained illegally it seems quite likely they were also "spent" illegally. The Police will want to make sure their enquiry embraces all aspects of this matter, and the manner and identity of people authorising payments, as well as the recipients of any monies.
This issue was relevant in the "Cash for Honours" scandal, but to my knowledge the question of who received these monies, who knew about them, and who received payments from these "contributions" has never been established.
My guess is that a proper enquiry into these matters would reveal a stinking heap of corrupt practices, and people who should have no place in public life.
£2,000,000 to elect someone to a job that has been invented to give him a title and let him play with other people's lives for a diversion COME ON.
This wasn't a leadership contest it was Tony Blair keeping a political disaster happy.
There has never been a deputy PM before and no need for one. If the Labour Party want one then elect someone surely they are devoted enough to the cause to do it without that amount of money -is it who gets the most money gets the job
There is no dignity or pride any more the degrading sight of people who are supposed to represent us crawling for money and titles is disgusting. I am glad that my father -an out and out socialist and Trade Unionist is dead because this would have broken his heart.
"The law is new and untested" - WTF. I don't think our sterling CPS, police and judiciary would find that to be the case if it were a Tory, or one of the little people involved. This is government by fucking Leona Helmsley. If they can bang up Archer and Aitken, and pursue thousands of poor bastards for footling mistakes, I WANT THE ORANGE CUNT INSIDE, followed by Harbint, Bendy, Wee Dougie and all the other criminal scum who think that the laws they pass somehow exempt them from compliance. INSIDE, accept no alternative.
Well done Guido, by all accounts, with the Wart last night. You really have to play their game if you go into the lion's den with ZaNuLab bigwigs like her - shout the cunt down.
Come out Gordo, and tell us all about your whiter-than-white administration you rocking horse riding snot-gobbling freak.
Come out, and fuck off.
I am sorry to repeat myself but I still think that the bankruptcy of character and principle among the current crop of senior Labour people stems from the clause 4 moment. Once that core belief goes, really just what do they stand for? The replacement Cl 4 -
"The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect."
- could apply in general to any free democratic people with the rights of private property, and general responsibility, not specifically to Labour.
Perhaps what we should be aiming for now is a sort of laissez faire with compasssion, but whatever it is it is not Socialism, and it is definitely not Nuliebour.
In which case what is Labour for?
It is this situation that they face and which leads them to achieve power, not based on victory in argument, but on deceit and the destruction by whatever means of their opponents. And in this they were very successful in destroying Major's government by accusations of sleaze and very skillfiul media manipulation and marketing. And Major's people - as is the case with Nuliebour - were not ALL sleazy and corrupt. Nuliebour was just very good at making it look that way, helped along by the inept Tory administration.
But as Nuliebour is bankrupt of ideas they have resorted to power for its own sake and to maintian this they have to become genuinely sleazy and corrupt in order to keep the deceit going.
I do not believe that they are universally corrupt, there are good people in their ranks. For example Frank Field.
But I think that they are (a) useless (b) clueless and (c) pointless. A sort of 'soap' government if you like.
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Dear Senor Guido
What does it say about British "Democracy" and the state of the Legal System, when every year 28,000 citizens (many poor) have to be prosecuted
If the System is "generating" so many Criminals, perhaps it is high time that the System be changed
AND what about those Greedy MPs who use their Expense Allowances (averaging £113,000 in 2006) to employ their wives, daughters, sweethearts and mistresses and (in these enlightened times) the male equivalents
I have the honour to remain
Your obedient servant etc
G Eagle
The word is already out in the Evening Standard that it is unlikely that there will any prosecutions regarding Abrahams, Watts and others because "The law is new and untested".
Is this for real? Does this mean they could be guilty but as the law is "new" they won't prosecute? This is the ultimate bollox isn't it? So much for justice. Guido you are a mensch.
What price a military take over?
The vast majority of the British people are law abiding. They are not fools. They will look and see what happens. IF, as suggested by one above, NO action is taken against any of the donors, as "It is an untried new law" then I think and believe ALL HELL will break out.
Then Cameron will have to show his fighting abilities. He has to DEMAND a prosecution. OR better still get one of his rich friends to take out a private prosecution!
Guido Says:-
No ifs, no buts law makers cannot be law breakers = a good T shirt Guido...income generation.
nick robinson and gary glitter work for satan. nick, you are obviously not a religious man but if you were the work you do on behalf of the new labour war party would surely doom you to hell.
my point is that the only glue holding this wicked and corrupt government together is misleading lickspittles like nick robinson.
give up trying to protect nefarious
characters like gordon brown nick, the internet means those DA notices don't hold water any more.
the truth will be arriving any day now and you really don't want people to think the reason you've protected such perverts is because you are one too.
save your own soul nick, gordon gave his to the devil a long time ago but ofcourse you know that don't you?
Saw this on the Daily Mash and had a good chuckle.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=679&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=28
oh, one more thing.
if old age pensioners are locked up for spraying anti war messages on council buildings and for non payment of £58 of their council tax but an MP who designs complex devices to launder money are not, then I predict a riot.
Guido,
Did Steve Richard's breath smell of alcohol at all, or does he always speak like a horse-racing commentator on speed?
I seem to recall that the fat bastard reads this blog. Therefore: Steve: NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK - GET A JOB!!
Thank you.
If Labour was SO concerned about lying/financial impropriety/concealment of donations/donors/ selling of honours, etc- wouldn't they pass a law stating that if anybody was found guilty of the above they would face a lifetime ban of holding ANY political office in the country, as well as a manditory jail sentence? I bloody well would!
ordinary housewife said...
"I asked the same question of Iain Dale - why did Hain need all this money for an election?
Don't MPs elect the Deputy PM"
MPs don't elect the Deputy PM. They are appointed by the PM.
At present we do not have a Deputy PM.
You are probably confusing Deputy PM with Deputy Leader of the Labour Party.
You should all read "The triumph of the political class" by Peter Oborne.
Its a must read if only to show how we have allowed our freedoms to be eroded by self serving politicians!
Problem will be, the longer we allow this farce to continue, the harder it will be to dislodge it.
ordinary housewife said...
"There has never been a deputy PM before and no need for one."
Rab Butler?
Willie Whitelaw?
Geoffrey Howe?
Michael Heseltine?
Or don't Conservative Deputy Prime Ministers count?
"If they can bang up Archer and Aitken,"
Banged up for perjury, a crime only ever committed by Tory ministers it seems. How many people must lie in court every year but don't get charged with perjury.
Come on, Guido. Hain's gone. Now turn your mighty guns on Leninslime. He's worse than the rest of them put together and I want to see him SHREDDED.
Strapworld said ....
"Cameron will have to show his fighting abilities. He has to DEMAND a prosecution. "
Including the local Conservative Party in Witney who accepted llegal donations.
Maybe you missed the Indian connection in Gordon's funding for his election and recent activity in India.
Oh and The Scottish Industry Forum which funded Wendy Alexander, what is it and who does it get its loot from is this not another third party?
G Broon saying he's not a ditherer...he's geting on with the job.....
He's whizzing around the world like a blue a****d fly - what a waste of fossil fuel.
BTW I think the makeover people have been called in. His hair looks different and this photo of him on this BBC/Nulabour page shows the new 'groomed' look. Can't do much about the bags under the eyes and the jowls - will have to go under the knife ..oops my hand slipped.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7208304.stm
"No ifs, no buts, lawmakers can't be allowed to be law breakers"
And does this apply to Dave?
A quick comparison of the Register of Members interests and the Electoral Commission Website shows that back in 2005 he received donations from Sir Anthony Wigram, Rodney Leach and Daniel Janner QC which were reported in the former - but do not appear to have been reported to the Commission over two years later. He also hasn't reported a Party that was hosted for him at the 2005 Conservative Party Conference by Paddy Gilford which he reported to the register of interests.
And Witney Conservative Association don't appear to have reported a donation from David Wilson which Dave reported in the register of interests in March 2006 (oh dear haven't they been in trouble with the Commission before!)
And all this from an hour's research - I'm sure an investigative blogger of your calibre could find so much more if you wanted to?
The Labour is and always has been a criminal conspiracy to ruin the country.This masks the petty theft carried out by the apparatchiks and the quangocrats
This time round it has only taken the project longer to run out of public money to waste.
How can anyone with any sense vote for them?
GF rote "Some 28,800 people were prosecuted last year by Hain's former department, the DWP, for failing to declare income. Many were prosecuted for small amounts of money".
Says it all really. Pay people benefits without proper supervision and - unsuprisingly - they do cash work. Then generate more bureaucracy by proescuting them as criminals.
We are all criminals now. If we do not fit some convenient bureaucratic category or act in a way that makes it difficult, we are criminalised.
Look at all the stupid law that this mob has enacted. A veritable blizzard of badly drafted envy legislation. It's no wonder the rules get broken
Anon @1.49 - so what you're saying is that all Cameron's donations were in fact publicly posted, so you didn't have to do any digging, and they're all legal (not donated through non-functioning Think Tanks, or so-called charities).
Well, that certainly puts old Hain in the clear then.
@ Anon 1:49 PM
Wow!
Fantastic!
Why have you not started your own blog?
Amazing.
No Dougal - the law says all donations should be reported to the Electoral Commission - it doesn't appear that they were. I didn't know you could be selective about what laws you obey and those that you don't. The Register of Members interests doesn't report the amount of donations BTW. If Hain has broken the law he will have to face the consequences.
Glad you agree that donations should not be made through non functioning bodies - does the same logic apply to the Midlands Industrial Councils and the various companies used by Tory (and Liberal) donors?
Anonymous @ 1:49
So what makes you think that the donations that were reported in the RoMI but not reported to the EC were over the £1,000 reporting threshold for EC reports. All donations are recorded in the register of members interests, but only those over £999 are reported to the Electroal Commission.
A few minutes research would have told you that.
"No Dougal - the law says all donations should be reported to the Electoral Commission"
No it doesn't. For one thing there is a minimum value for the donation for it to be reported to the EC. Hain made good use of that £1000 limit....
You'll be telling us next that on Cameron's website he has a page telling us he's murdered his mum and buried her under the patio.
anon 1.49, let's root out the perverts first eh, 1.49.
you don't want to protect perverts now, do you?
we can get to the wastrels later.
get your priorities right.
Do you know Mr Fawkes, you are one of the few people in the whole of the wider media who is saying what so many of us feel. Before the likes of you, people like me felt like a minority with the BBC and all taking a left wing stance on everything. Now I feel the silent majority is being represented by you where the BBC & co have totaly failed.
Thank you and well done.
I think you will find that were the Conservatives have not informed the Elec. Com it is because the Elec. Com. informed them that they did not need to. This is a big difference to Hain & co.
ordinary housewife said...
"£2,000,000 to elect someone to a job that has been invented to give him a title and let him play with other people's lives for a diversion COME ON."
It's their money. They can spend it on whatever keeps them happy.
Alex
Not in Section 4 of the Register of Members Interests - the reporting threshold is just the same as for the Electoral Commission.
I obviously did a few more minutes research than you!
Anon 2:43 & 1.49 you're making the assumption that this is pro Tory - personally that's not the absolute case. They are just the least worst option.
And, transparency in donations should apply to all politicians. Those that you note are transparent. Hain's were not.
Lola
Not true - we know the amount of HAin's donations but not Cameron's.
yes, now
...I should add (reinforce?) that the whole boiling lot of them, of whatever political pursuasion, should be more transparent in their dealings. It's perfectly easy to do, and it would add a lot to their credibility. And it need not be the addition of more laws and rules. They could all easily just do it. I reckon it would encourage more small donations from the constituency associations as it would make them all more likely to work hard at wooing small donations.
So I hold no candle out for Cameron or anyone.
Clear?
And the White Queen in the Grauniad is STILL spinning for NuLiebor! I wish her vibrator would go into overdrive and finish her off.
Peter Grimes
Can the tangoed twat explain why it took £100,000 to rent a one room office, buy two new PCs and employ a temp?
We should review election law. If you don't vote for the party in power then you should not have to pay taxes to keep them there.
Time to get out the old Soweto necklace, remember the petrol soaked tyre round the neck Tango boy?
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