Justice Unseen is Justice Denied
Guido has tried to find out what punishment was meted out to Lord Hoyle yesterday. He was in trouble for getting caught taking undeclared cash-for-access from lobbyists for arms dealers to meet with the Defence Procurement Minister. The Lordship's disciplinary committee, chaired by Lord Woolf (the former Chief Justice) met in secret yesterday and we the people are not entitled to know the result. Such is our democracy...So let Guido pass judgement; Lord Hoyle is a shameless whore of parliament, he travels first class on the taxpayer's gravy train at the expense of the people, his priority is personal enrichment and the evidence is that he is more than willing to do grubby deals with arms dealers in the shadows, so long as there is money in it for him. In a better world that would have been the publicly given finding of Lord Woolf.
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That's going for it , Guido.
On anniversary day, I hope lightning does not strike twice.
ZaNuLab pigs' sessions at the trough are surely not self-enrichment Guido, more likely oversights, incompetences, amnesia, or stress of workload.
You surely cannot TRULY believe that any one of these scrupulously honest people has the slightest thought for themselves as they toil away in the nation's interest....
Well, we are not surprised, are we? Just as there are MANY MPs crapping themselves at the thought of joining the currently SELECT Conway Club, so there are Dishonourable Lords of the Realm who are ordering toilet paper by the lorry load in anticipation of a Guide Hand of Judgment feeling their collars.
Is this porcine scrounger the same vain berk who gave such a graceless "victory" speech against Roy Jenkins all those years ago in Warrington?
If so, he did almost as much for the then nascent SDP as he has done susequently for his paymasters in the arms industry.
Labour care for nothing except power - especially the power to coin it through the "managing" of their own interventionism. Yet still they are as sanctimonious as a novice monk.
Utterly awful.
I recall doing 'battle' with this anti police, anti establishment old socialist, on the tele!
It was over the issue of police having baton rounds etc. Sue Lawley was in the studio and I will never forget the way she gently handled the rubber bullet!
Strange, though, how all the anti establishment socialists ended up Peers of the Realm!
Look how it affected them all - especially the Speaker of the Commons - that legend in his own mind- the Glasgow MP - Martin.
But on your main point, Guido, it stinks. We should have the right to know.
Sites such as Guido's, shine a light into the dark holes from which our 'elected officials' operate.
Keep on pushing the torch into their little warrens of corruption and watch 'em come running out like scared rabbits.
That's enough metaphors (ed)
Secret decisions.
Secret loans.
Secret court trails.
Secret hearings.
Secret sentences.
As I mentioned yesterday
"enable the Bank of England and Financial Services Authority (FSA) to launch a secret takeover of a failing bank, in a bid to prevent a repeat of last year's run on Northern Rock."
See that word SECRET again.
Wills of Royals keep secret from the public.
Secret secrets...
Government ministers deciding policy without recourse to parliament using a wide range of major executive powers under the "royal prerogative".
Yes we live in a country that has a very big government Secret State (SS) within it.
Such government SS structures have fallen in many countries the world over.
The Germans now have free access to the files of the Stasi.
refs:
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/public_administration_select_committee/pasc_no_12.cfm
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/business-and-industry/darling-extend-bank-takeover-powers-$484998.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=509329&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true
http://www.iuscomp.org/gla/statutes/StUG.htm
You should also have mentioned secret courts for child custody cases
- just like Hitler's Germany !
Mr Speaker Martin, 62, is chair of the House of Commons Commission, which decided to engage in a legal battle to prevent the publication of a more detailed breakdown on MPs’ expenses. [cheating bastards] But his own arrangements have been called into question in recent weeks. Mr Martin, from Glasgow, was a sheet metal worker, became a trade union organiser and entered Parliament for Labour in 1979. The Speaker receives £137,579 in pay, as well as a grace-and-favour appartment inside the Parliamentary Estate which Commons authorities claim has not been separately valued. [why]
Last month The Times disclosed that his wife, Mary, had claimed £4,280.20 for taxis since May 2004, which were “entirely in connection with household expenditure that supports the Speaker’s duties”. According to the Speaker’s spokesman, she needs to take taxis to shop for food for official functions [and to dip her own snout into the gravy]. The wife of the Speaker has never had a formal role before [why am I not surprised]. Subsequently it emerged that nearly £50,000 of taxpayers’ money had been spent on providing free air travel for Mrs Martin [first class]. She had been given permission to claim travel expenses when her husband became Speaker in 2000. Mrs Martin received £24,485 for foreign flights when accompanying her husband on ten official trips over three years from 2004.
A Commons spokesman said: “The burden on a Speaker’s family can be great at times [especially when carrying the wallet]. When Mr Martin was appointed it was accepted that Mrs Martin was entitled to receive support for certain travel expenses [first class] to enable her to support her husband in his official duties.”
The couple’s son Paul Martin has represented Glasgow Springburn in the Scottish Parliament since 1999 and is now a full member of the "Family business with snout in trough" club.
“WHENCE comest thou, Gehazi,
So reverend to behold,
In scarlet and in ermines
And chain of England’s gold?”
“From following after Naaman
To tell him all is well,
Whereby my zeal hath made me
A Judge in Israel.”
Well done, well done, Gehazi!
Stretch forth thy ready hand,
Thou barely ‘scaped from judgment,
Take oath to judge the land
Unswayed by gift of money
Or privy bribe, more base,
Of knowledge which is profit
In any market-place.
Search out and probe, Gehazi,
As thou of all canst try,
The truthful, well-weighed answer
That tells the blacker lie—
The loud, uneasy virtue
The anger feigned at will,
To overbear a witness
And make the Court keep still.
Take order now, Gehazi,
That no man talk aside
In secret with his judges
The while his case is tried.
Lest he should show them—reason
To keep a matter hid,
And subtly lead the questions
Away from what he did.
Thou mirror of uprightness,
What ails thee at thy vows?
What means the risen whiteness
Of the skin between thy brows?
The boils that shine and burrow,
The sores that slough and bleed—
The leprosy of Naaman
On thee and all thy seed?
Stand up, stand up, Gehazi,
Draw close thy robe and go,
Gehazi, Judge in Israel,
A leper white as snow!
Hail Cicero.
Anons - don't forget that nasty little secret that has been locked up for 100 years, Dunblane/Operation Ore/Cullen Report.
Scum.
Yesterday I tried to explain to a group of 8 year olds that what Guy (Guido) Fawkes tried to do was morally reprehensible, illegal and dangerous. Rather like Bean, I waffled, trotted out meaningless twaddle and made-up statistics on the hoof.
Imagine how different life would be without Parliament?
mmmmmmmmmm
Of interest, Fawkes was ranked 30th in the 2002 list of "100 Greatest Britons", sponsored by the BBC and voted for by the public. He was also included in a list of the 50 greatest people from Yorkshire.
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Bravo Stanislav, your pieces float like a butterfly and sting like a scorpion, no more talk of sleaze, cock-ups and maladministration. Crime is crime, theft is theft, thieves and criminals break laws.
Well said Guido. Hoyle seems like a typical money-grabbing NuLabia piece of shit.
At least Cameron dumped on Conway when the shit hit the fan, so unlike Brown who, apparently, is more than willing to tolerate sleaze and corruption within Labour ranks.
so, lord scum has abused parliament and its
procedures to grub around for cash. what a cunt.
lord? don't make me fucking laugh.
Smirking ... smug ... obese ... typical.
Guy Fawkes, was hung, drawn and quartered at a public execution in St Paul's Churchyard.
Crucify the greedy toad on Big Ben I say.
The carol sings 8 Lords a'leaping.
How many have we got in the collection now? I'll start with Levy and Hoyle.
Over to you lot.
Conway debate now live....piss off Conway
Right, that's it. I've had enough. TO THE BARRICADES!
Animal Farm
We have Sir George Young making a soothing speech defending Conway. He (Young) declared that he himself employs his wife. Are you 'aving a larf. Hypocrites, two faced s***s. They just can't see it.
PS Did you know that Conway used to be the CE for the Cats' Protection League? Seems he should have stuck with pussies.
Frank Field calls it embezzlement....he's right....this offence is worthy of a public flogging and ten years incarceration...I so move...
Hoyle's voting record (From TheyWorkForYou.com)
- Voted very strongly for introducing a smoking ban.
- Voted moderately for introducing ID cards.
- Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.
- Voted strongly for the hunting ban.
- Voted very strongly for equal gay rights.
So this Lorship is obviously one who enjoys telling people what to do. I would similarly like to tell him what to do; it would involve some rectal insertion.
45govt ... wake up and join the 21st century will you.
The Dunblane papers were declassified about a year ago.
MORE LIBDUM SHENANIGANS! STOP PRESS!
http://dizzythinks.net/2007/09/lib-dems-accept-donation-from-oil.html
lord? don't make me fucking laugh.
Indeed. Of the Flies.
Have you tried phoning "Lord" Hoyle?
Snouts in the trough.
Jobs for the boys.
Hang on a sec, lets not take our eye of the ball here.
Gordon and Ken are having a breather.
The working class can kiss their arse.
I'm now a f*****g peer at last.
Sung to the red flag!
The standards and privileges committee found the arrangement was (Conway) "at least, an improper use of parliamentary allowances; at worst, it was a serious diversion of public funds".
Bollocks, it was theft. Conway pay back the money and do your bird.
Commenting on the case, Downing Street said: "The prime minister agrees there should be greater transparency.
"How this should be achieved, though, is a matter for the House authorities to consider."
BUT - as in the case of Hoyle (secretly).
Bollocks Bean - all you spout is utter Bollocks and shield criminality. That is a crime!
Justice Secretary Jack Straw had earlier told Sky News: "I have never understood, for the life of me, why MPs are not required to say who they employ."
Mr Straw, I am sure will be publishing his list asap.
How the world must watch and wonder at the miracle of modern British democracy.
How did it come to this?
Has anyone noticed it is impossible to post a comment on nick robinsons beeb blog? It's not just a occasional problem with the system... it's permanently down...has anyone on here managed to get anything through? or are we to assume he writes all his own comments?
Parliamentary 'democracy' has clearly failed! Maybe it's time for another revolution - even a military takeover couldn't be worse than the current mob.
I would like the House of Commons to modernise and reach standards of administrative probity suitable for the late 20th century ... and not the 19th.
Since most MPs appear to believe they live in the 18th century before the internet and freedom of expression was allowed and can do what they like, I am not holding my breath.
Yes I know we are in the 21st century.. so I'm not asking up to date modernity...:-)
frank field was excellent
"if it was member of staff in our canteen that had done this sort of thing they would be forced to leave there job"
simon hughes wants non reciepted expenese reduced to £55 , so they only have to claim 5 a day and they can get back to same level.
fair enough why should an mp employ a relation , but the key word is employ "money for work idea" and not put them as expenses. the only outcome is for subject to audit , although wether the cost of the auditior would be more than the ammount saved would be debateable!!
its not just transparency its honour and honesty , the list of removing the word honourable is growing.
embarrasing day for parliment yes, but i hope it reminds mps that when deciding on our nations future and economy , that the comfortable world that they inhabit , is not the same as a lot of the people who they represent.
for mr d arronovitch
we got the split screen bit , purple PMQs, some people are bit different! cyber sex lives attempt . will you stop at nothing to prove a bad ideaology works. its not case of just reverting to 18th centuary politics , it a case of keeping power in check , so far gordon brown is hogging/building power more and more , freedom is being subversed , the same freedoms which allow you to write will go , when your not left enough for them david .
ANONYMOUS 12:34
I listened to Frank Field speak today,( as I did during the 'constitution debate) what on earth is that honourable chap doing in that party ? He is surrounded by shite but stands above it to give some hope that there are politicians of principle.
The chap sounds sensible enough to be in UKIndependence,
Blimey Guido! Are you fearless or not? Be careful my old son - or you might suddenly be switched off. Then wot would we do?
But yesterday's Committee didn't have the power to punish Lord Hoyle - it just names and shames. The House as a whole does the punishing.
It must be SO hard for Labour politicians at the moment. Every time they try to be critical of a Conservative MP for acting like a Conservative MP, fuck me! -They have Peter "Honest" Hain (akas the Tangoed Terror) Bendy Wendy, Lord snooty err Hoyle, and the rest of the criminals in NuLiebour making the Tories look like honesty personified!
madasafish .. apologies if I am misreading you ..but are you suggesting that speech is freer now than in the C18/19th ?? A contentious point at best ...
On topic - Hoyle what a mendacious piece of sh*t - standrd issue political class / new Labour. A shame people such as him are not made to do the Tyburn jig.
FAO Anonymous
Who is Nick Robinson?
Has he got a blog?
Only joking!
Just popped over to Nick's newsagents but it was closed.
As for getting posted, maybe you make the mistake of being a little controversial.
an example:
David wrote:
If as an MP you do something dodgy like Conway appears to have, you risk total ruin. Self-interest seems to be the best shield against abuse of the system, as Conway will now pay a very large price.
It's all very well huffing and puffing about transparency, but the vast majority of people have no interest in or knowledge of what MPs do - or what to expect from them. Creating further rules on disclosing information will in reality only serve the media.
Well said Guido.
Also the way BBC presenters can write articles in Newspapers how do we know they are not doing it during BBC work time ? using BBC resources ?
Post Hutton it was all stopped but
Humphrys-Marr write in the *Daily Wail*
Paxman in the Indie about his *week n the Media* recently and his stupid pants rant - and just today Andy Marr has two pages in the News Statesman so pot and kettle spring to mind
On the Write to Them site, there is this:
Read this before writing your message
Please be polite, concise and to the point.
By abusing your Lord you devalue the service for all users.
Hilarious. It makes them sound divine. They are exactly the opposite.
You charitably omit to mention that Doug Hoyle was chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party from 1992 to 1997 (constitutionally, not an unimportant position, particularly in opposition) and chair of the Labour Party from 1994-95.
In March 1997 Hoyle surprised many by announcing he was stepping down from Parliament, just months before the general election, a move that circumvented the usual CLP-led candidate selection process, giving much of the power of selection to Party HQ at (in those days) Millbank.
The all women shortlist that was offered to the CLP contained three paid-up parachute candidates: Yvette Cooper (Mrs Balls and former researcher to Harriet Harman), Valerie Shawcross (a former Labour Party National Women's Officer, now a London MEP), and Valerie Vaz (pole-climbing lawyer, sometime BBC presenter and sister of slimy Keith).
It is to the credit of the Warrington CLP that they opted for Helen Jones, an independent minded and thoughtful soul hailing from neighboring Widnes.
Doug Hoyle was enobled in May 1997.
Helen Jones remains on the backbenches ten years later.
as the truth comes into focus everything becomes much clearer.
over 3000 pieces of ill thought out legislation with insufficient prison places to accomodate the fall-out, failing to protect the public, cctv cameras, speed cameras, eroding the right to protest, giving british sovereignty away to others, increasing taxation to excessive levels, too incompetent to even empty our bins once a week, council fines out of control, public sector recruitment out of control, borrowing money to build schools and prisons at extortionate rates of interest etc etc etc........
the british parliament is being used to attack and debase british citizens because the corrupt charlatans it accomodates, who are surely the worst crop of incumbents ever, have taken the view that offence is their best form of defence.
the game is up, we can now see them for the self serving scum they are.
we have had enough of their fois gras politics of stuffing it down our throats and I think it is time for us to regurgitate their rotten grain.
these measures are not for our benefit, they come purely at our cost. enough of this abuse of power. no more. and repeal what already is. I am a democrat but these matters are not up for debate. elective dictatorship is unacceptable, end of story.
Anon. 1:29 said "Has anyone noticed it is impossible to post a comment on nick robinsons beeb blog?"
Why on earth would you want to?
Well done Guido wipe the smile of the smug bastards face
Peers, queers and racketeers.
This is getting out of hand. No, not just the government but you lot too. On a recent thread someone said Harperson should be strung up because she was involved in dodgy donations AND has two speeding tickets.
What do you want, for fuck's sake? A country run by 646 Mother Theresas?
If sanctimonious goody-goody critics like you lot and today's self-righteous press were in business last century, Lloyd George and Churchill would never have got off the starting block. Womanisers, smokers, hard drinkers all, and probably unacquainted with personal budgets, they would have been shredded long before Hitler stepped on his first goose.
I do not want perfect, saintly people in charge. Is they anything more loathesome than the squeaky Miliband or the finger-wagging Jowell?
I WANT politicans with some dirt on their hands.
But we do have ample a-counting systems don'tcha know?
I'm a counting now..
one for you ..
One for me
one for you
One for me..
Big Charlie Clarke implicitly attacks Gordon Brown's leadership in the Mirror today. I wonder what Toilets Maguire thinks of this:
Brown warned he could lose election
31/01/2008 17:01
Former Home Secretary Charles Clarke attacked Prime Minister Gordon Brown's government on Thursday, warning there was a risk the Labour Party could lose the next election and face a decade in opposition.
Although he did not target Brown by name for his fiercest criticisms, Clarke's broadside was the strongest sign yet of unrest within the Labour Party over Brown's leadership......
http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/henry1.jpg
conway
Anon. (1.29)
Too true - I have given up trying to get anything posted on Nick Robinson's 'blog' - complete waste of time. I think you're right - he does write all his own posts...
Mr Speaker Gorbals Mick Martin earlier tried to restrict the debate to Mr Conway's case, saying it was not right to debate the "broader subject of expenses". Well, he would say that wouldn't he. After all, Mrs Speaker Gorbals Mary Martin has a bigger taxi bill for her shopping than any basic state pensioner gets for the year, never mind the flight bills. Time for a judicial review of the whole sewer!!
More trouble for Ken & Jasper over the Base funding!
BBC London News @6:30pm
So let Guido pass judgement; Lord Hoyle is a shameless whore of parliament, he travels first class on the taxpayer's gravy train at the expense of the people, his priority is personal enrichment and the evidence is that he is more than willing to do grubby deals with arms dealers in the shadows, so long as there is money in it for him.
Good use of the semicolon Guido, however, shit grammar followed. You need an editor old chap.
the Labour Party could lose the next election and face a decade in opposition.
Being a bit optimistic, surely? Try at least two or three decades, bit closer to the mark.
Oliver Cromwell, it depends what you mean by dirt. Are you happy with corruption? Whatever you say about Winston Churchill, he was never in it for the money. I don't want saints but it would be nice to have politicians who knew it was wrong to steal other people's money.
A story of Labour ethics.
It is probably accurate to say that a majority of the population - regardless of age, gender, disability and including Quakers, Hare Krishnas and bog-standard pacifists - would join a very long and orderly queue to punch Neil Kinnock in the mouth, as hard as they could. It is probably accurate, further, that just as many would throw rotten fruit or bad eggs at Glenys and the family Kinnock, should they see them in the street; . There is, then, after all, something about His Grace, Lord Kinnock, which brings out the very best in people.
In 1983, Mr Dave Nellist, of Coventry was elected Labour MP. Nellist was a socialist, no law against that but what set him apart from the likes of Doug Hoyle and, indeed, everyone else in Kinnock's party, was his sincerity; he drew only the salary of a skilled Coventry car worker, paying the remainder of it back to the Labour movement.(The greatest living socialist family, en passant, the BennDynastyUlike, has never followed suit, despite considerable pre-existing family wealth; no doubt Graaaanpa Tony, in his cardy, with his cup of tea, would have a great little aphorism to explain his family's thirst for public money, one which would raise the rafters on Question Time, something about Ghandi, perhaps, whome he met once y'know No matter, they are a busted flush) Not only did Nellist not commit the usual crimes of MPs but he didn't even draw the salary to which he was entitled, taking only half of what everyone else was raking-in; a man doomed, one would think, swimming with sharks, stalked by wolves. And so it proved.
Nellist was originally slated to share an office with his contemporary, Miranda Blair. On encountering one who was not only real Labour but also a real man, however, Miranda took flight, crashing-in, instead, toothy and bug-eyed, on Nancy Brown and thus was born the odd menage of these two and dishy Peter Mandelson which resulted in the gravy train par excellence, New labour and in the embittered and tormented life of the current, It Shoulda Been Me, PM; spurned, unloved, betrayed, passed over, unrequited to the Nth degree.
Nellist, meanwhile, a compelling orator and a good MP, was awarded, for what these things are worth, the parliamentarian of the year award by his fellow honourables and right honourable. His popularity, though, his sincerity and notably his refusal to enrich himself, enraged the great socialist Kinnock and his fellow swine, people like bachelor boy and now baron Hatterjee of the Guardian and it came to pass that the best, most honest Labour parliamentarian of a generation - agree with him or not - was in 1992 deselected by Kinnock's Labour National Executive; the people's flag, bless, is steeped in greed.
Nellist stood in that year's general election as an independent and lost by a short head. Kinnock, on the other hand, got fucked. Braying and crowing before Glenys's adoring gaze, Boyo so revolted the general electorate that he single-handedly threw away an otherwise assured election victory; he has gone since from triumph to scatalogical triumph.
Kinnock was part of the shameful EU Commission which resigned over its fiddled books only to reappoint itself 48 hours later and brutally trash the whistle blower concerned; wife and whole family have coincidentally found most lucrative employment in what we must blithely call public service and Kinnock's most recent triumph was, bizarrely, as a director of an electronic counting machine company which, with the help of Zombie Alexander, fucked-up last year's Scotch election, although His Grace nevertheless received his forty grand a year bung.
These then are the ethics of the honourables and right honourables; a modest, decent man thrown out of the Labour Party for his lack of greed, his sincerity, his principles and a revolting preposterous, windbagging, ginger chimp and his ghastly spawn showered with honours, monies, servants, expenses, pensions, travelling the country which long ago had a bellyfull of him, hoovering-up directorships and consultancies and praise-singing his own vices, failures and vanity.
Nellist serves, still, as a County Councillor and is active in left-wing politics - workers', not Hampstead Heathens' style; neither ennobled nor flush with millions of tax Euros, Nellist is the way we expect public servants to be. Kinnock, wealthy peer, iffy director, grande dame of NewLabour, lazy, worthless spiv, bully and great house of commons man is a cunt.
Hoyle, one of Kinnock's cintemporaries, is not, you see, a novelty or even an exception but just one in a long and broad and densely populated tradition of thieving, lying bastards, wrapped in a red flag, shitting, like boyo Kinnock, in our faces.
The Dunblane papers released are "edited"
"frank field was excellent -
'if it was member of staff in our canteen that had done this sort of thing they would be forced to leave there job'"
Frank Field is one of the few labourites left with any principles. He is clever, erudite, and of course it was he who, when asked to "think the unthinkable" about the welfare state came up with a perfectly good solution to get people trapped on benefits back to work.
Blair was apparently up for it, but such a clever, sensible, workable idea was, of course, vetoed by Chancellor Snotgobbler and his sub-marxist cronies.
I have noticed that most threads lately include at least one call for a military coup.
I hereby volunteer to lead this.
Because of my name, I feel that I am ideally suited to replace the current Prime Minister.
oliver
I am delighted to hear you think things are getting out of hand.
and the fact that you have employed the pseudonym of oliver cromwell to waffle your nonsense exposes you for the cunt you are.
so you want thieves and liars and perverts at the helm.
birds of a feather and all that.
if you like your mps with dirty hands there is a lib dem mp you should meet who is into that kind of thing.
you are completely missing the point you dullard.
fuck off back to laboubloggers4war, there's a good retard.
Anybody know what godforesaken bit of military tat this muppet was peddling?
Decent boots,a rifle not manufactured by Gerald Ratner and more helicopters -easily fundable by sacking half the MOD;so no downside at all
Keith, 7:00 p.m. said "Good use of the semicolon Guido". Sorry, a colon is needed there.
Also, you should have put a comma before "Guido".
You both need an editor. Not me, though, I have bells to ring.
Dennis
Pedant to the Crowned Heads of Europe
Anonymous 12.25 pm mentioned "Animal Farm."
Well here's Baron Hoyle on his farm.
Hats off Stanislav,a great rant about the 'socialist' Kinnocks. I'll bet they're not paying 40% tax on all the dosh they are hoovering up in Brussels. He's in charge of cutting out the fraud too! If he gets fired can I have the job?
Half each of course.....
Thick As Thieves, I have always thought you lived up to your name and now you've proved it. Fuchsia Grown understood the point when he says Winston Churchill was never in it for the money.
Churchill, Lloyd George and many great parliamentarians in between were hugely talented people with passion, vision and true appreciation of what the country wanted of itself. Flawed as they were, you could forgive them almost anything.
Since Blair we have been ruled by nincompoops with heads full of crap learnt on a polytechnic course and driven by nothing more than an urge to implement their daft theories while milking what they can from the system.
You, Sir, are the cunt.
The Beeb does us a favour at last. Lee Grasper is put through the wringer and there's Leninsnot defending him!
Did you know Grasper is, among other things, the "Mayor's Director of Policing". Fuckin hell, glad I moved out.
Watch it on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7220000/newsid_7221000/7221042.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&bbcws=1
Stan,
God help me, I was born and brought up in Coventry in the time of Nellist. I watched the brothers systematically fuck the entire UK car industry. They managed it in a decade. They were like the lilies of the field in that they toilethed not, well, not on Mondayth or Fridayth anyway. (I should add that they were mightily aided by the worst industrial managers who ever drew breath. There three-day-week? How we laughed.)
Dave "Spart" Nellist was as mad as a snake. Unreconstructed mad, mad, mad, loony left bollocks spewed forth from his silly gob. He was though, as you say, an honest man. A little baby lamb of lunacy to the slaughter.
Small quiz: how many different companies have manufactured cars in Coventry? How many are there doing so now?
[The first answer I forget but it is is approximately 140. The second answer is approximately 1. It may even be zero by now. I shall ask me mum next time I am in town.]
Wild man wrote
he Labour Party could lose the next election and face a decade in opposition.
Being a bit optimistic, surely? Try at least two or three decades, bit closer to the mark."
Sorry you two-if only that were true. I believe that nulab will, with the help of the libdums, once again rule you lot for god knows how long.
Camay is not too far in front, pollwise-you would expect him to be a lot further forward.
However, ALL parties recent shenanigans mean that this subject will NEVER be broached at PM's questions, thus totally defusing other parties arguments on the subject.
Any other subject which arises, eg police pay, immigramts, hospitals, have the "yawn" factor which causes most folks to switch off.
Chancellor Alistair Darling is to give new powers to the Bank of England to mount secret rescue operations for banks requiring emergency funds.
oh yes they can spend billions and no one should know!
so they robbed us blind for northern crock a private bussiness but at least told us we were being robbed, now they will rob us and not even tell the public they have bankrupted the fucking country - public confidence booster that one is for certain!
you couldnt make it up.
when will these corrupt evil communists swing?
fuchsia groan said...
"Whatever you say about Winston Churchill, he was never in it for the money."
By today's standards he was incredibly corrupt.
is it worth a freedom of information request?
Tory cuntperson michaela Howard, asking for goverment giro for political parties, on TV yesterday!
snouts out front and backhanders round back.
Torys for small goverment?
Fuck off!
SOLUTION -
10 year sentences for all political corruption - end of fiddles, case closed.
`tough but fair` eh Cameron, oh you`ve gone all quiet - you cunt!
all con no conservative
stanislav "i give way"
following on from a recent mps comment that he was surprised to still hear a cockney within the bounds of bow bells , i can only try and emulate the late great ronnie barker, with a bit of cockney rhyme (slightly updated of course anything coincidental is errm coincidental)
guido fawkes = sports
peter hain= pain
gordon brown= frown
whores frock= northern rock
richard branson=upperclass mansion
pig pen= ken
itchy pants =chris bry-ant
alistair darling=not a farthing
edward balls= overdraws
jaqui smith=regretting the sith
alan johnson=talking nonsense
standards committie=in the shitty
lisbon treaty=national weakness
vincent cable= willing and able
taylor morgon= gorgon
and to help mr bryant with his oh matron sniggering observastion.
(sung to 60 spiderman themetrack)
super pants , super pants
does whatever when he can
likes young men in there pants
if there gay he will clap
tooo hear bryant is big man
super pants , super pants
keeps his torch in his pants
does he flash on the net
or is he a suit on the back bench
tooo hear bryant is a big man
super pants, super pants
likes some cock does superpants
says he pround , whilst going down
wears a suit when in town
so raise, raise your glass to the mp for lllandoveybrevy
thick as thieves said...
oliver
I am delighted to hear you think things are getting out of hand.
and the fact that you have employed the pseudonym of oliver cromwell to waffle your nonsense exposes you for the cunt you are.
so you want thieves and liars and perverts at the helm.
birds of a feather and all that.
if you like your mps with dirty hands there is a lib dem mp you should meet who is into that kind of thing.
you are completely missing the point you dullard.
fuck off back to laboubloggers4war, there's a good retard.
8:39 PM, January 31, 2008
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Thick as shit, you off again?
this is not conservativehome you cunt and this is not your fucking blog in spite of your long winded arogant borefests! so why dont you take your own advice and fuck off to consrvativehome - dear chap!
cromwell & consertive home,
what apair of jokers you are!
cromwell, you sound like a battered wife. ooh he really loves me when he isn't punching me lights out when 'e comes 'ome pissed. you silly old tart. you have some romantic notion that the worse the habits, the better the leader. gordon brown should be a fucking genius prime minister following your logic. bollocks argument oliver. a person can be of good character and habits and be a good leader. admittedly a rare occurrence but nonetheless a more desirable prospect than your naive and narrow view.
conservative home, well you're a strange one aren't you? you have such disdain for me and my postings, yet you spend time copying my post word for word. you're just creepy.
Dear Mr Mongoose
Yes, I know, people used to get pissed in the Hearsall and the Holyhead at night and then go into the Browns Lane Jaguar factory and sleep all through the nightshift. Same in Birmngham, people carried out Maxis and Princeeses piecemeal. And the management WAS shit.
All I was saying was that Nellist was an honest man in a den of thieves and not in it for the money and that he got shafted and fucked off by a gang who were. I wasn't endorsing Nellist's politics, just his decent humanity. He's as entitled -and likely - to be mad as any other fucker, Mr gerry hayes, for instance.
There is no answer to your Coventry questions, save that from the great Polish songster, Mr Bob Dylan: they don't make NOTHING here no more.
"Frank Field is one of the few labourites left with any principles. "
Must be because he used to be a Tory.
Ironic that Derek Conway is interested in pussies whereas his son clearly isn't. Some things don't run in the family.....
Stan - stealing the Maxis, Princesses and those fucking Allegros was actually doing the public a good turn; a few less poor innocents to get shafted with that automotive crap.
Stan, I knew dozens of the buggers. Not a day's work in any of them. (Christ, I sound like my father.) But you are quite right - Nellist was an honest man. He had no chance against the Welsh Windbag. Kinnock you may recall was rabidly anti-european until he heard the whistle of the gravy train.
45govt, "Maxis, Princesses, Allegros"! Complete garbage, the lot of them. Mind, I had a Simca once. It had obviously been built by a gang of pissed Frenchman. terrible piece of crap.
"do grubby deals with arms dealers in the shadows"
wait a minute Guido - did you not do the same thing???
Cos if not, then you've been smeared on Kev Maguire's blog!
If I wasn't old and past it I would want to have your babies.
Stick it to the bastards Mr GF.
I love you.
J
Here is a simple diagram explaining our political process.
PIGS..........TROUGH..........SNOUTS
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