Hain's own constituency Neath Labour Party is holding an emergency executive meeting on Wednesday to discuss the affair. Hain has a lot of questions to answer...
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Jomo Kenyatta
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Come on this is Hain's supporters calling a meeting to pass a motion of full confidence in the local MP. He shouldn't worry about the local labour party members it 's the rest of the People's Party who have had a guts full of the man from Kenya.
Mr F, you are quite right there are a lot of questions to answer. I wonder if it will take as long to answer these simple questions as it did to furnish the electoral commission with details of his donations? If so we probably won't have the answere before Easter.
as a resident alien who came out of the closet years ago, i've gone all tatchell and outed a few such as sting, the whole cast of eastenders and piers morgan. i can exclusively reveal that phain is one of us, hence his orangeness and inbuilt fiscal irregularity.
anon - Hain walking the plank! Don't make me laugh, he will have to be thrown kicking and screaming overboard. Although the person responsible for throwing him overboard has distanced himself for responsibility saying it is out of his hands. So PM's are no longer responsible for the make-up of their own Cabinet!
No way they can spin this whole business as anything other than dodgy. The 'I was busy and I'm ever so sorry' argument is beyond contempt. Can anyone imagine someone with a real job spinning this kind of tosh?
The crucial thing is the deviousness of channelling money though the 'so called' think tank. Why would you?
And unless anyone should lose sight of this in the argument. Precisely why would someone need £103,000 to fight a deputy leadership campaign? How many first class stamps can you get for that? It shows above all else how screwed the system is. You people down in London may think £100,000 is not a lot, and especially since billions have now taken over from millions but out here in the real world we think it's a world gone crazy.
I reckon it's evens on him surviving. Nuliebour is so endemically bent that by association if Tango goes they'll all look even dogier. They know this and will therefore now be working on (a) rescuing him or (b) innoculating themselves form Tango contagion or (c) praying that a Tory 'scandal' turns up.
They've had two attempts at changing the newsflow - McBeans stupid organ donor bollocks (which incenses me - it's my body NOT the States) and Osbornes money thing. Neither have worked.
...and the CLP is actually going to issue a critical statement?
What chance of that? Let's not be silly, eh? No the whole point of the meeting is to whip the waverers (if any) into line. This is not about keeping Hain, it's about how to bullshit their way back into some sort of 'respectability'. 'Credibility' is obviously not possible. The calculation here is when is the next General Election and will the supine bastards be supine again?
Will Hain actually be there? If he's walked the plank by Wednesay he'll have plenty of time on his hands.
Only if he's found a backer to pay for the trip down to Neath ...
Can anyone explain to me why an apparently avowed enemy of apartheid South Africa has been actively canvassing financial support from a former stalwart of the National Party (Isaac Kaye), also a continuing backer of same party? This apart from Hain having accepted cash and loans from a representative of De Beers - surely another company that must have been on Tango's hate list in the past?
Monsieur Brun zo 'ates to danser - ze reshuffle - ees cabinay ees zo tight, zo controlle like tentpegs, 'ammerred down - zo who wants to mess it up - sacre bleu - dezissions, dezissions!
Perhaps they are waiting to see what comes up at PMQs ?
But with one bound Hain is free.
He has been here before, and didn't resign then, because he has no shame..
He will have seen how Wendy Alexander toughing it out allowed the media spotlight to descend elsewhere after a few days.
By avoiding looking like a rabbit in the headlights, and with some air cover from the BBC over the George Osborne funding thingy, he has hunkered down, and the storm is nearly over.
PLEASE can we get him out? As soon as one of the fuckers is ditched, the others become easier, surely. Who might be next I wonder? Gotta be as far from Westminster as possible, so our Wendy must be shitting herself. Can it really come to pass? Can the dominoes fall one by one? If several went, would there be overwhelming pressure on snotgobbler for an election to be called? Could he resist? Votes of no confidence must be a distinct possibility - there must surely be some Labourites who are fucked off with what's been going on, and would do the decent thing? Orr is that too much to expect?
Nothing is going to happen at the Neath constituency party meeting.
Unless of course you include the Neath Nulabor numpties ringing support for Hain ..............in consideration of his excluding them from any future review of the Disability Benefit he probably pays them all.
Presumably Hain wanted to become deputy leader as a further step in fulfilling his ambition to be the next Prime Minister. So probably in his view, any tactic was valid. Fortunately we shall never know what would happen to this already benighted and despairing country under his rule - I hope.
Apparantly the PPF was set up specifically to support Hain and his policies according to Paul Flynn MP. I just love it when idiotic characters ride to the rescue only to find that they do more damage to their 'friend' than if they simply hadn't bothered mounting their white charger!
Lets face it - the PPF was an instrument purely set up to hide the fact that Hain's lefty credentials would be compromised if it was found out that some donors were from a background less than edifying (South Africa National Party etc.) No wonder he doesn't want to answer any questions!
Things are definitely looking up for the Permatanned Pensioner. This morning the Mail's Should Peter Hain Resign poll was showing an overwhelming 92 per cent On your Bike, Peter! vote. But he's winning hearts and minds in Middle England by the, er, handful. The Yes figure is now a mere 91 percent.
Presumably the other demented 9 per cent are all DES, alias Hain is a Hero.
I think shows more indecisiveness by Courage - hahahahahaha, bang! oh there go my fucking ribs - Brown.
He knows Hain has trampled and pissed on every declaration rule going, betrayed the trust of the Labour Party (how many voted for him? Have they started recruiting in Napoleon Farms?) and of the voting public who expect our politicians toshow a mort of honour (silly, I know) but he can't bring himself to act decisively. It's all of a part.
Those who can, do. Those who can't have books ghostwritten about it and give them away to bewildered foreign children.
""James said... Apparantly the PPF was set up specifically to support Hain and his policies according to Paul Flynn MP. I just love it when idiotic characters ride to the rescue only to find that they do more damage to their 'friend' than if they simply hadn't bothered mounting their white charger!""
This criminal lot couldn't run a whelk stall let alone carry off a full-blown conspiracy.
45 govt I stand corrected, though I meant law not rules. The idea of being likened to the Beeb is sufficient deterrent to ensure I won't make the same mistake again.
I hate to contradict you but the National Party (or New National Party as it tried to rebrand itself) disbanded itself back in 2005.(http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=14&click_id=6&art_id=qw111304764088B251)
Mr Kaye can hardly still be a supporter of a defunct organisation.
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Come on this is Hain's supporters calling a meeting to pass a motion of full confidence in the local MP. He shouldn't worry about the local labour party members it 's the rest of the People's Party who have had a guts full of the man from Kenya.
Do you suppose they'll give him the hair-dryer treatment?
Which I'm sure he won't. It will be strung out as long as possible then he'll quietly bugger off with a golden handshake and a book to write.
Mr F, you are quite right there are a lot of questions to answer. I wonder if it will take as long to answer these simple questions as it did to furnish the electoral commission with details of his donations? If so we probably won't have the answere before Easter.
as a resident alien who came out of the closet years ago, i've gone all tatchell and outed a few such as sting, the whole cast of eastenders and piers morgan. i can exclusively reveal that phain is one of us, hence his orangeness and inbuilt fiscal irregularity.
Pressure mounts on Brown to axe Peter Hain (Telegraph)
It's a shame the BBC don't ask those questions.
Several posts about the tango'd one today but NO comments.
Has everyone been bought off now?
Presumably the meeting will he held in the Tesco Car Park and chaired by Mike Cuddy.
Will Hain actually be there? If he's walked the plank by Wednesay he'll have plenty of time on his hands.
anon - Hain walking the plank! Don't make me laugh, he will have to be thrown kicking and screaming overboard. Although the person responsible for throwing him overboard has distanced himself for responsibility saying it is out of his hands. So PM's are no longer responsible for the make-up of their own Cabinet!
No way they can spin this whole business as anything other than dodgy. The 'I was busy and I'm ever so sorry' argument is beyond contempt. Can anyone imagine someone with a real job spinning this kind of tosh?
The crucial thing is the deviousness of channelling money though the 'so called' think tank. Why would you?
And unless anyone should lose sight of this in the argument. Precisely why would someone need £103,000 to fight a deputy leadership campaign? How many first class stamps can you get for that? It shows above all else how screwed the system is. You people down in London may think £100,000 is not a lot, and especially since billions have now taken over from millions but out here in the real world we think it's a world gone crazy.
I reckon it's evens on him surviving. Nuliebour is so endemically bent that by association if Tango goes they'll all look even dogier. They know this and will therefore now be working on (a) rescuing him or (b) innoculating themselves form Tango contagion or (c) praying that a Tory 'scandal' turns up.
They've had two attempts at changing the newsflow - McBeans stupid organ donor bollocks (which incenses me - it's my body NOT the States) and Osbornes money thing. Neither have worked.
Any ideas what's next?
Well they won't give Hain the brush off, it they did he'd loose his perma-tan.
...and the CLP is actually going to issue a critical statement?
What chance of that? Let's not be silly, eh? No the whole point of the meeting is to whip the waverers (if any) into line. This is not about keeping Hain, it's about how to bullshit their way back into some sort of 'respectability'. 'Credibility' is obviously not possible. The calculation here is when is the next General Election and will the supine bastards be supine again?
Hain to face full parliamentary enquiry (Telegraph)
Will Hain actually be there? If he's walked the plank by Wednesay he'll have plenty of time on his hands.
Only if he's found a backer to pay for the trip down to Neath ...
Can anyone explain to me why an apparently avowed enemy of apartheid South Africa has been actively canvassing financial support from a former stalwart of the National Party (Isaac Kaye), also a continuing backer of same party? This apart from Hain having accepted cash and loans from a representative of De Beers - surely another company that must have been on Tango's hate list in the past?
Orange man in the Red (Three Line Whip), complete with "Hain is a hero" nutter comment.
Monsieur Brun zo 'ates to danser - ze reshuffle - ees cabinay ees zo tight, zo controlle like tentpegs, 'ammerred down - zo who wants to mess it up - sacre bleu - dezissions, dezissions!
The nutter on "Three line whip" is our old mate DES posting under a different name.
What's to debate or discuss. He broke the rules; he must go.
Perhaps they are waiting to see what comes up at PMQs ?
But with one bound Hain is free.
He has been here before, and didn't resign then, because he has no shame..
He will have seen how Wendy Alexander toughing it out allowed the media spotlight to descend elsewhere after a few days.
By avoiding looking like a rabbit in the headlights, and with some air cover from the BBC over the George Osborne funding thingy, he has hunkered down, and the storm is nearly over.
Kim Howells PROMOTION will render
Hain's efforts redundant.
PLEASE can we get him out? As soon as one of the fuckers is ditched, the others become easier, surely. Who might be next I wonder? Gotta be as far from Westminster as possible, so our Wendy must be shitting herself. Can it really come to pass? Can the dominoes fall one by one? If several went, would there be overwhelming pressure on snotgobbler for an election to be called? Could he resist? Votes of no confidence must be a distinct possibility - there must surely be some Labourites who are fucked off with what's been going on, and would do the decent thing? Orr is that too much to expect?
Nothing is going to happen at the Neath constituency party meeting.
Unless of course you include the Neath Nulabor numpties ringing support for Hain ..............in consideration of his excluding them from any future review of the Disability Benefit he probably pays them all.
Peter Grimes
Livingnext2romanians - do you think that is DES? Seems even more illiterate than our vocabulary challenged friend usually is.
Nick Wood - it's the LAW the TangerineMan broke, not just the rules. Only the BEEB uses rules for ZaNuLab, laws for the Conservatives.
Presumably Hain wanted to become deputy leader as a further step in fulfilling his ambition to be the next Prime Minister. So probably in his view, any tactic was valid. Fortunately we shall never know what would happen to this already benighted and despairing country under his rule - I hope.
Apparantly the PPF was set up specifically to support Hain and his policies according to Paul Flynn MP. I just love it when idiotic characters ride to the rescue only to find that they do more damage to their 'friend' than if they simply hadn't bothered mounting their white charger!
Lets face it - the PPF was an instrument purely set up to hide the fact that Hain's lefty credentials would be compromised if it was found out that some donors were from a background less than edifying (South Africa National Party etc.) No wonder he doesn't want to answer any questions!
45 Govt. You got that picture from Wikipedia and I claim 9mm!
Things are definitely looking up for the Permatanned Pensioner. This morning the Mail's Should Peter Hain Resign poll was showing an overwhelming 92 per cent On your Bike, Peter! vote. But he's winning hearts and minds in Middle England by the, er, handful. The Yes figure is now a mere 91 percent.
Presumably the other demented 9 per cent are all DES, alias Hain is a Hero.
I think shows more indecisiveness by Courage - hahahahahaha, bang! oh there go my fucking ribs - Brown.
He knows Hain has trampled and pissed on every declaration rule going, betrayed the trust of the Labour Party (how many voted for him? Have they started recruiting in Napoleon Farms?) and of the voting public who expect our politicians toshow a mort of honour (silly, I know) but he can't bring himself to act decisively. It's all of a part.
Those who can, do. Those who can't have books ghostwritten about it and give them away to bewildered foreign children.
""James said...
Apparantly the PPF was set up specifically to support Hain and his policies according to Paul Flynn MP. I just love it when idiotic characters ride to the rescue only to find that they do more damage to their 'friend' than if they simply hadn't bothered mounting their white charger!""
This criminal lot couldn't run a whelk stall let alone carry off a full-blown conspiracy.
Cash-for-honours excluded, of course.
And a dodgy Iraq WMD dossier.
And Dr Kelly's death.
Hang on a minute............
Peter Grimes
3:14 PM, January 14, 2008
Maybe PPF could also ressurect Paul Flynn's 'other income from occasional journalism and book sales' which appears to be dormant since 2003.
" Peter Hain is doing a great job"
Gordon Brown January 2008.
45 govt
I stand corrected, though I meant law not rules. The idea of being likened to the Beeb is sufficient deterrent to ensure I won't make the same mistake again.
Julian,
I hate to contradict you but the National Party (or New National Party as it tried to rebrand itself) disbanded itself back in 2005.(http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=14&click_id=6&art_id=qw111304764088B251)
Mr Kaye can hardly still be a supporter of a defunct organisation.
trm
Thank you for the correction. I don't keep up to speed on South African politics, I'm afraid.
Julian,
No problem.
RM
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