Hain Still Has Campaign Debts of £41,200
According to the Electoral Commission, Peter Hain registered a payment to the Labour Party of £11,550 on September 18. Under party rules he had to pay 15% of the funds raised to the party's central funds.Since he raised a total of £185,000, he should have actually paid the party £27,750. So he owes the Labour Party £16,200. He also owes Willie Nagel, a diamond broker and former Tory supporter repayment on an interest-free loan of £25,000.
Which means by Guido's calculations he has unpaid campaign debts to the tune of £41,200.
132 comments:
Who thought it was worth a hundred thousand quid to make this wanker the deputy leader of something? The phrase more money than sense comes to mind
why are the police not involved? he has broken the law, harman broke the law etc etc
He really is plonker. I wonder if the Labour party will send the bailiffs around - like they would for any ordinary oik who couldn't pay his tax bill.
I have to conduct myself according to a strict ethical code. I am duty bound to report all malfeasance and wrong-doings that come to my attention. If I have a conflict of interest in this I must resign my office to remove that conflict. I am an accountant, not a politician!
Guido has missile lock !!
Aim !!
Fire !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7179977.stm
OT but this goes to show what a genius Ed Balls is. Not.
But what is really funny is that the job that he is going for is not worth the proverbial bucket of warm piss.
Harman landed it, but within months Gordon looked willing to drop her like a hot brick as soon as she looked in danger of infecting his leadership with the sleaze tag...
Never mind, with his experience in Northern Ireland, Wales and running a sleazy bid for high office his training for a top job in the EU has clearly been fast-tracked...
Might explain why his usual sense of honour has been replaced by clinging onto the greasy pole like shit to a sheet.
Easier to pay the vig when you're on a cabinet minister's salary.
That Nagel bloke should invest in an order for Hain's bankruptcy. Quite simple, costs a few hundred quid.
Bankrupt MPs have to resign their seat.
Hain's argument boils down to this:
"I'm far too important to bother with rules"
Peter Hain urging us to take more control of our pension plans saying "People are living longer, are more active and expect to be able to enjoy the type of lifestyle in retirement they had while working. About three-quarters of people say they will need more than the state pension to live on. But actions do not match words - only about four in 10 working age people are saving into a private pension."
Perhaps that's what this whole thing is about
He'll need to go and rob a bank soon!
Tango Hain
He's going to get away with this
Newsnight's Crick even went on to Robin Lustig minutes before Newsnight commenting on air making it sound low keyish event
Stephen Pound today Sky News fighting the corner too for Hain
Well at £10k a pop that's only four and a bit award ceremonies - all over by next Friday, surely?
Great News - BBC: "The PM has expressed full confidence in Mr Hain".
Knowing Brown, the spineless git, Hain is doomed!
What a pHain he is!
Gifts from a former director of a company subject to an ongoing criminal prosecution for defrauding the NHS while he was chairman of that company. Its far worse than issues of disclosure..... at least its a clear conflict of interest against the Ministerial code of conduct and could reasonably be construed as an attempt to pervert the course of justice.
I hope Insp Yates is checking out his handcuffs.
Who wants to bet that Hain was in serious financial trouble, spending on some Monte Carlo lifestyle he couldn't afford and came up with a waizard wheeze to tell people he was running as deputy PM. By this means he wangled all kinds of money out of them for a campaign that never really existed and resulted in him getting 5th place in the results.
My guess would be that this money went to pay down his perosnal debt and he hoped no-one would notice, or at least no-one would care enough to call it fraud. He must have been pretty desparate for the cash to have tried this trick. I don't think he wanted to be deputy PM nearly enough to risk gaol for it. It must have been something more.
We all know that nothing will come of any investigations into Hain`s dodgy dealings. This Stalinist Goverment is the Law !
They have the Police, Judiciary, News Media and every Investigative Committee you can name, etc,etc, stuffed with their sycophantic "yes men", paid to do their bidding.
Yesterday in Liverpool we awoke to a breaking story on Sky News about a massive Police raid to break the backbone of gangs. "Very good we thought", but then it was revealed, Jacqu Smith, the illustrious Home Secretary, was visiting Liverpool the very day. What an amazing "coincidence" that she should be here, the same time that such a high profile Police operation was "staged".
We half expected her to be wearing a hard hat and wielding a Police issue battering ram.
In the meantime, the killer of Rhys Jones still roams the streets !
Anon 1045 - he may well have broken the law, but he's a NuLab minister, so he's above the law! I suspect that the outcome of all this will be his elevation to the House of Lords, whereas most of us would prefer a gibbet. Whilst these serially incompetent and corrupt bastards think they can get away with it, I suspect that the growing list of misdemeanours will focus the electorate next time they mark 'X' on the ballot paper. I won't forget.
OK, OK, I owe £100,000 to the Inland Revenue. I used it to pay off my mortgage. Look, it was an oversight on my tax returns. I'm not an accountant.....
why no betfair market in Sec State for DWP exit date?
Could a wizened head inform or correct me as to when Labour adopted the stonewalling tactic of no resignations?
I seem to remember there were quite a few resignations before with Mandelson, Blunkett , Clarke (any others?). When did it all start?
anon 11.41 it started with that scandal about jowell. that went right to the heart of the government and she had to be protected. she lied to the parliamentary standards bloke and nothing else happened.
PHain “The fact is that during this period, I gave my campaign for office within the Labour Party second priority.” Then what did you spend £180k on?
anon@11:41 - I would suggest June 27th!
Obviously BOSS is still in business trying to undermine yet again the credibility of this outstanding publuc servant.
Seriously though, can't we deport him as a foreign criminal
Anon: 11:41 said:
"Could a wizened head inform or correct me as to when Labour adopted the stonewalling tactic of no resignations?"
The obvious answer appears to be, as soon as they realised there would no one left in the government!
"Half the cash given to the Work and Pensions Secretary was donated via a virtually unknown think-tank created just five months before the contest, fuelling suspicions that it was used as a gobetweento shield a series of 'hidden' donors.
They included Isaac Kaye, 78, who is linked to South Africa's pro-apartheid National Party and was embroiled in a police investigation into a suspected £ 400million fraud against the NHS"
Now I'm thoroughly confused...
Why the fuck is Hain (a noted anti-apartheid campaigner and liberal) taking money from this chap?
He also owes Willie Nagel, a diamond broker and former Tory supporter repayment on an interest-free loan of £25,000.
Nagel is a Companion of the Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael & St. George. I wonder if he's a friend of Lord Levy too.
Willie Nagel, the DTC rough diamond broker who arrived in Britain as an immigrant made himself at home in his corridors of power, has been honored by the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II. When the queen's traditional New Year's honor list was published at the end of 2001, Nagel's name appeared as a CMG, or a Companion of the Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael & St. George award.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3015/is_200202/ai_n7661832
Send the bastard back to South Africa, a crime ridden aids infested 3rd world shit hole that he helped to create!
Oh i see he`s at it again herein the UK!
Hain when are you going to take the DNA test to prove you did or did not rob a British bank!!!!
"In 1976 Hain was tried for, and acquitted of, a 1974 bank robbery, allegedly having been framed by South African intelligence agents. Two schoolboys positively identified him. A deliberate "double" may have taken part in the robbery. Despite modern DNA techniques and mass fingerprinting now being available no further investigation of this unsolved case is known to have taken place. Six MPs, led by Liberal David Steel, called for the resignation of the Director of Public Prosecutions, Sir Norman Skelhorn, over the Hain case."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hain
So Pensioner may Welch on Labour..........what's new
The sad thing is that there are still many people in the North East etc who will continue to vote for Nu Labour despite what ever this corrupt collection of MPs do.
Anon. 12.20
"Why the fuck is Hain (a noted anti-apartheid campaigner and liberal) taking money from this chap?"
Don't forget despoiler of cricket pitches, disrupter of other people's enjoyment etc.
WOW WEEE…The Andy Caulton spinmister has gone into space. And all the Tory trolls are out in force. So Hain owes his own party a few quid errrr is that it.
Yet again...scratch the surface. See ""12:33 PM, January 11, 2008"". And the nasty neocons come out to play with their fowl rants.
Caulston is worried, and this over drive is an attempt to seize the cover of the Sundays. I though Tories didnt spin...oh dear
He still owes £41k eh?
I hope that Barclays Bank in Peckam High Street have checked that their CCTV is working and that all the schoolboys in the area have checked that the cameras on their mobile phones are working.
My Daddy (always said he) was a Bank Robber
But he never hurt noboddy
He just loved to live that way
And he loved to steal your money.
Has the Truth and Reconcilliation Commission in modern day South Africa ever found anyone to confirm the BOSS double/Bank Robber story?
It really was bollocks wasn't it? and because the media hated the apartheid regime so much people believed anything.
Spammer - the Tories do not need to spin. They just need to tell the truth.
The truth is a useful counterweight to the BBC's perverse editorial judgements, and to New Lab's endless self congratulation (and denial, time to move on, time to draw a line etc.)
Take a tip - you do not HAVE to support his shower. Once you have made the psychologicalleap of saying, "these turds are nothing to do with me", understanding what has gone wrong with the UK this last decade is so much easier to understand.
Still, I could be wrong. What has been "spun" about the Hain disgrace?
Spammer said "the nasty neocons come out to play with their fowl rants."
Anything to do with chickles?
Just asking.
Anonymous 12:47 - turn-out in the North East in Labour dead cert seats rarely rises far above 40% even in general elections. AN increasing number of this 40% will vote Lib Dem but few will vote Tory for cultural reasons (Miner's strike, shipyards etc). Of the rest, I would say about 20% don't vote because they disapprove of all the main parties, and the balalnce, 40% are so fucking thick they don't even know there is an election, don't know what the political system is, don't know what country they live in, and would have trouble finding their way home from the polling station.
Excerpts from remarks made by the 11 commenters (@ 13:15) on the Standard story:
1. Hain should be charged.
2. Another 'career' politician with his snout in the trough
3. He should be prosecuted
4. Did he buy an Aston Martin? Let's see the accounts.
5. He should resign now.
6. When is someone in high office going to be held accountable for sleazy and possibly illegal actions?
7. Surely Hain is liable for tax as this counts as a benefit in kind
8. He'll wriggle out of it just like his other Labour chums.
9. If all the others are anything to go by this will enhance his career - just look at the Blairs.
10. If he had any spine at all he'd hold his hand up and resign, but worms don't have backbones.
11. There is no way on Earth that comrade Hain would have been ignorant of such large donations. He should be facing criminal charges.
Yes, Spammer, these are clearly Tory astro-turfers out in force and desperately worried about Cameron's poll ratings.
These expenses need to be met by the tax payer. This is the only way to get the best people available into the jobs that matter for the good folk of this country. I think we have an excellent government, I well remember the shower that were in charge ten years ago, certainly don't want to go there again. Gordon unfortunately has not had the support of Mr. Cameron who seems hell bent on publishing a policy a day and not dealing with the real problems that beset us all. This is a time for all to come to the aid of the country and see that Gordon and his cabinet get the support they truly deserve. Remember Maggie and reflect on what could have been had not Gordon given us all ten great years, thank you Gordon.
Time for Hain to help Knacker of the Yard with his enquiries.
The man's arrogance is only surpassed by his incompetence.
Spammer
Who is Andy Coulton?
You are more Fuckwit than Spammer.
His claiming that he didn't notice because he was busy sorting out devolved government at Stormont is absolutely outrageous. Besides the fact that he did not spend that much time in NI, but that it was his brief and he he's claiming that it was too big a work load? Or is it alright to just let things go if you're busy.
Guido
Didn't you publish Haines budget for his campaign a few weeks ago? Seem to remember the budget was for c. £80k - actual spend getting on for £200k. Seems about right for a NuLab project.
When is this corrupt orange faced ducker-and-diver, sod off back to Africa?
Having mismanaged his finances I suspect he's waiting for a cheque from the Bank of England.
Labour costs too much.
Trubes said...
Leave Jacqui Smith alone - she's my mum and she was home in time to pick me up from ballet and cook our tea.
Her considerable gravitas, charisma and command of her brief is really, really great.
The man's a cunt. He should go. Don't let him out of your sights, Guido.
He Ain't In Nick (yet). Why?
He also owes me an apology for being orange.
Let's hope Mr Bean does not sack Hain. Hain is an first-class liability for NuLabour, the longer he is in the news the better.
NuLabour thinks the word 'resign' means the electorate's resignation that they're not going to.
I am a recent convert to this blog and find myself open mouthed with what appears to be outright abuse/illegal activity of these freeloaders in Nulab. Surely Donorgate cannot pass without the CPS bringing charges and creating the domino effect of bringing down this government. Am I naive in also expecting the Tories to pick this up and forcing a debate in the Commons to confront this outright corruption. I heard Abbott and Portillo (last night)contend that uk politics is devoid of corruption and that Hain has made a mistake!
I'm proud to day that:
"Despite modern DNA techniques and mass fingerprinting now being available no further investigation of this unsolved case is known to have taken place"
is one of my contributions to Wikipedia.
I "forgot" to renew my car tax. Never happended before in thirty years of driving. A genuine mistake or oversight. My car was towed away (£80 please) I was fined for having a car on the public road untaxed (another £80 please) and fined for nor renewing on time (another £100 please)
These cunts BREAK THE LAW with impunity. I paid my dues, Hain should pay his.
I am in the process of relocating to Switzerland. I shall then sell my property portfolio and pay fuck all in tax. To all those staying on in this shit hole of a country I salute you. Look after it for me.
Scotland Yard has started a fullscale inquiry into a project linked to the Mayor's adviser Lee Jasper.
A series of documents have been seized by officers investigating the South London Green Badge Taxi School run by two of Mr Jasper's close associates, Greg Nowell and Clive Grey.
The school received at least £351,000 from the London Development Agency and another of Ken Livingstone's organisations, Transport for London.
Officers broke down doors at the school in Clapham Manor Street and left with at least five bundles of documents, including bank statements and invoices.
The inquiry is being led by Acting Commander Nigel Mawer, who is also running the investigation into allegations that the Labour Party accepted illegal donations via third parties.
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23431919-details/Yard+probes+taxi+project+linked+to+Mayor%27s+adviser/article.do
Andrew Gilligan is back on the trail
headline of the day so far
"Hain is to face probe"
mm i wonder whos probe that will be.
BBC trying to track him down , and hes been reported to parlimentary standards commitee.
oh dear "there may be trouble ahead , but whiles theres music and love and romance lets face the music and dance"
come on peter where are you !! come and face your lies !!
Agreed. Now S.A. is the utopian haven Hain helped to create, why does he not fuck off back there and bask in the plaudits. Perhaps it's because he'd be immediately gang raped by (visually impaired) Botswanan's.
Or maybe his orange glow would attract the wrong kind of bees?
I wonder where this sleaze of the nulab will finish up.
Hypocrites! The Tories are always complaining that we have an economy propped up by credit and that the trillion pounds of British household debt is an appalling thing. Now, when a Labour minister gets into terrible debt, the Tories laugh and sneer. Debt is an awful, worrying thing for anyone. We should be helping Peter with his predicament, not adding to his woes!
Hey Guido,
When are you going to publish the full list of undeclareds...sounds like racing, this.
We have Cuddy, Kaye , Nagel and mirabile dictu, Maesteg Maggot (£5K...probably fees Phain was going to rat on anyway)....that leaves about a dozen unnamed donors.
The Dead Sheep of Quentin Davies said...
Debt is an awful, worrying thing for anyone. We should be helping Peter with his predicament, not adding to his woes!
Perhaps he could 'phone Picture Loan' and have an adult conversation with them
"Mr Hain, 57, has already run an energetic campaign and sought trade union support, and has raised the most cash to fight the election, some £37,000 from five Labour party supporters."
David Hencke and agencies
Thursday May 10, 2007
Guardian Unlimited
Like we keep saying to gorgon "WHERES THE MONEY GONE"
Gordon,"I'm not an accountant", Brown pledges to steer Britain through the imminent global financial storm. Time for Vince Cable to note the transformation of Brown from Mr Bean to Old Mother Hubbard.
Possibly the most odious MP in the Commons even when facing very, very stiff competition aginst a rogues gallery of Gerald verypompous Kaufman, George catscream Galloway, Sion twat Simon, Keith stonewall Vaz, Margaret blindtoabuse Hodge, Harriet poshhypocrite Harman, Tessa DodgyMortage Jowell, Stephen rentastupidquote Pound, Emily veryambitious Thornberry, Michael Many-Houses Meacher, Shaun Quisling Woodward, James Photoshop Purnell, Red Dawn Primarolo, the grim duo of Ed Blinky Balls and Yvette expenses Cooper, Denis rentastupidquote McShane Quentin Quisling Davies and David Shagger Blunkett
£100,000 worth of oversight? Hain states it was "an inadvertent mistake". Does this mean he has "vertent" mistakes as well?
Well done Guido for getting this one in the limelight. Hain's dayglo orange tan must be paling by the minute - especially since Gordo has declared "full confidence" in him...
Mike, every time you write something like "I think we have an excellent government", you remove all possible doubt in anyone's mind as to whether you are the utter cunt they suspected. No matter who pays you to spout this drivel, they are not getting their money's worth.
......
"dead sheep"
-I agree he should be consolidating his loans. There are some great ads on Sky about how to do this.
-Orange people and Carol Vordaman all diving into an ocean.
They all seem really nice.
Failing that he can always rob another fucking bank.
Didnt Mandy have to resign over taking a soft loan?
And thats just one of the rules Hain has broken, and not even the most serious! Surely he has to go.
Being a practical sort of a chap, and running my own business, I'm still bemused by the actual technicalities of Hain's offence.
My book keeper wants an invoice for every penny I spend -
Did Hain rent a very expensive venue and hold a series of meet the candidate meetings ?
Did Hain commision very expensive art work and print tens of thousands of brochures ?
Did Hain lavishly entertain potential supporters at expensive eateries ?
Did Hain buy expensive promotional gifts to distribute to potential voters ?
Did Hain feel it necessary to invest in expensive computer hardware or specialist software , to manage a massive membership or donor database ?
Did Hain fly potential votors to exotic locations to influence them ?
Well, that just about covers everything I can think of, and in every case there would have been suppliers invoices involved. You'd expect someone with a spad available to help him, oh, and a campaign manager, would have a ball park idea of how much was spent, and importantly, how much was left in the kitty, on a daily basis.
Which raises another point, did Hain get a personal loan from his high street bank to draw down until donations were received ?
"Professor" John Underwood according to the Mail on Sunday in 2006, seems to have a bit of previous that resonates in the Phain debacle. According to the Daily Mail as an 'independent expert on engagement and consultation' he penned a dossier for Secretary Patricia Hewitt entitled Delivering A Healthy Future in West Hertfordshire. Underwood allegedly trousered £100,000 for his research and a popular hospital was closed and it's beds transferred to Watford a Labour seat. Independent Underwood forgot to mention that he was a director of Clear, a media consultancy, or that he chaired a NuLab think tank Catalyst Forum for Blair T.
So, 2008 dawns and we have Underwood the consultant, a think tank, Phain's dodgy donations, Maesteg Maggot down £5K,and hapless EX SPad Taylor...different year ...same old shit.
anyonebutbrown said:
'...Quentin Quisling Davies...'
Quentin is not a quisling! He is a man of integrity and principle who saw that Labour under Gordon Brown would be a successful party of depth and vision which would eschew crass political games playing and laughable headline grabbing stunts. (I know this cos Quentin told me before letting me starve to death.)
Full Hain statement and list of donors, with amounts paid.
Interesting that James Purnell's shitty name was mentioned (4.13 anyonebutbrown).
Wasn't Purnell the lying cunt brought out to bat for/lie for NuLiebor and tell us that Abrahams' money had been repaid?
Peter Grimes
no ifs not buts - the guys a crooked cunt
Let's face it, Hain is nothing more than a cheap, sorry, expensive crook.
He has previous you know!
Progressive Policies Forum funds given to Phains campaign with and WITHOUT the knowledge of the Forum's patrons, sounds like money laundering and possibly worse to me.
I am sure that HMRCS and the Yates take a more benign view of the embarrassment caused to Policy's patrons Willie Nagel, Maesteg Maggot et al and of course Rt Honourable Peter Hain MP .
It hardly looks accidental, more like carefully planned.
Think I agree with the very first comment on this post. Its the sheer petty sordidity of it all - how these unprincipled, immoral a**eholes stand to make millions from bribery, coercion and 'consultancies' once they leave parliament or government. Yet while they are in office they have no qualms in indulging in what is tantamount to petty theft ... when you consider how much they make in expenses, MP's salaries and government salaries.
It's been explained by some nuLab lickspittle on R4 PM just now.
Even though it is on offence under the law (that NuLab themselves introduced) to fail to declare donations within the time limit, it's ok because Hain has apologized.
Lickspittle said it was 'unfortunate' that he 'broke the rules' but has has apologized and is a very good chap: so let us draw a line under this affair, learn lessons and move on.
I suggest he did not 'bend the rules' but broke the fucking law!
I further suggest that Hain is a, crooked, lying orange-faced cunt.
I think we should string him up from a lamppost then draw a line under him.
Shades of David Abrahams:
Hain donor asked to keep his name secret - report
Willie Nagel, a diamond dealer, is one of the 17 figures who both donated and lent money to Peter Hain. According to the Financial Times, the pair encountered each other when Hain was in the Foreign Office, when they worked together on developing a certificate system to stem the flow of conflict diamonds.
The FT has also been told that when Nagel was approached to donate to Hain's campaign, he wanted to keep his identity secret.
"Last year, Mr Nagel, who is 83, was approached by John Underwood, a former Labour communications director, to give money to Mr Hain’s campaign. Mr Nagel declined because he did not wish his name to be made public. Mr Underwood later asked Mr Nagel to donate to Progressive Policies Forum, a think-tank pursuing worthwhile policy causes. He gave £5,000 and made a three-month loan of £25,000. He was not told the money was going to Mr Hain."
Progressive Policies Forum, incidentally, was set up in December 2006, has no website and lists a solicitor as its only named director and last night nobody in Westminster seemed to have heard of it. Nagel is understood to have requested that Hain repay a £25,000 interest-free loan this weekend. Hain's bad week is not over yet.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/politics/2008/01/hain-donor-aske.html
AnybodybutBrown! I demand that you add my son's name to the list.He may be a bit quiet at the moment, but he has spoken to the nice Peter Hain once or twice.
It was all the IRA's fault, said Peter.
Uk holed below fiscal waterline; shock horror !!!
Possible down grade of UK Government Debt from Aaa. Massive drop in January 31 tax point income predicted.
"The only sure way to bring down the trade deficit quickly would be for the UK to engineer its own economic crisis. Use the East Asian model that has done so much to shrink trade deficits and expand trade surpluses. A plunging Pound Sterling, an exodus of capital from the UK, a shrinking GDP and falling real wages would make a big dent in the UK trade deficit."
Time to cash in your chips and go.
Yet again, the Orange One falls for the trick of Guido pissing in his plonk....
"Professor" John Underwood a main board director of Freshwater UK PLC, PR heads, is a leading light in Freshwater Academy( spawn of Freshwater Technology).In June 2007, according to their PR puff, he led a seminar entitled, 'Communicating in a crisis: how to keep control of the message'. Invited delegates were told how to recognise a crisis, top tips for successful communications, and the pitfalls to avoid.
Pensioner Phain must have been asleep...again.
Never mind all this Hain tosh, the real issue today is - where's the Friday caption compo, Guido?
Q. Why is he orange?
What two colours make orange?
A. Red for NuLabour
Yellow for cowardice
It's at times like these that I really miss Bhownaggree.
Backwoodsman
you are omitting other possible expenses:
bribes;
wages for "enforcers";
payments to blackmailers
oh, I forgot - also industrial quantities of chickles ( whatever they are they would be sure to have some use)
"Picture the Loan" have dropped the Hain endorsement on their website and issued a statement saying they are a "prime" lender. Looks like they can see the way things are stacking up for the Orange One and don't wish to be associated with alleged criminal activity.
this progressive policy forum...
does it have a website? and if not, why not? (sure it is a totally totally genuine body)...
if anyone can find it, I would be very grateful to know what it is... guido?
no ifs not buts - the guys a crooked cunt
Every picture tells a story
http://www.freewebs.com/tangohain/Hain.jpg
He cost us that test match back in the seventies by digging up the pitch. He's a hooligan and now we should give him his cumuppence and get him out of our parliament. Let him campaign and embezzle in Africa.
No abuse here.
The best thing for everyone is that Hain, Harman and the rest of this venal bunch remain in office and like a cancerous tumour eat away at the body of this corrupt Govt. Hurt them politically but not fatally. Let him and all of them stay. It is better that way. After all teh Tories don't want anyone competent to fight!
snouts in troughs. what has happened to Labour and principle?
45govt said...
Mike, every time you write something like "I think we have an excellent government"
Somewhere over the rainbow....
Fuck me - I've seen comments from Martin Linton defending Hain
Linton used to be my local MP and he is about as an obsequeous Nu LAbourite as one could possibly hope to find
The good news is that Linton is dead meat at the next election - his majority was down to about 160 at the last one
brownbaita's wife has had enough of politicing and has sent him to bed. Bon nuit.
Orange cunt!
brownbaita @7:35
" give him his cumuppence "
One of the first things the Snot Gobbler did.
Word verification REJOZ
This twats DWP is running an advert about benefit cheats at the present "no ifs" - "no buts" "I was only" and so on....
You couldn't make it up,it's the best laugh on the tele at the moment
What a wanker
Johnny 7, never mind your car tax. My missus has an old motor permanently garaged. It's not hit the tarmac in over two years.
She has just got an £80 penalty notice for failing to renew her SORN certificate (confirming it's been off road).
Let me make this clear. She has been fined £80 for keeping an old car up on bricks in a private garage.
Fuck em. She's not paying,
as well as hains ppr money laundering operation
LDA grants looks good , sure has been a lot of money going to unusual places.
when does the sith get lit up??
ed balls has gone all quiet.
like that one on DWP website on getting the benefit cheats "no ifs no buts"
so mr hain have you been cheating benefits ??
plyd cyumrai dont seem happy so whats gone on there , perhaps you had an unfair financial advantage from companies you helped with tax payers money to locate there , rather than home grown businesses .
friends of nu labour helping democracy , or just your friends??
trolls appear to be down the pub , problems in the proganda dept cant russel up any anti sleaze on this one .
hains going down , pay up !
if we paid him £100k would he go away? Might be worth it
Is it just me or does anyone else think Oily Hain is revoltingly smug?
Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
Hain's official statement contains the following:
"donations marked with an asterisk were made on behalf of the named individuals by a think-tank, Progressive Policies Forum. The monies had been previously donated to PPF. When unpaid bills came to light PPF was approached and with the permission of the individual donors concerned the monies were donated to Hain4Labour to meet these debts. "
Hain is claiming that these monies were donated to PPF in it’s own right, that there was no connection, at that point, with his campaign, and that there was no fore-knowledge or intention on the part of the donors to support his campaign. If this is true, then the money was PPF’s to do with as it pleased. Why was the permission of
the donors sought? Whose idea was it to seek permission?
There is also a peculiarity about the frequency, from 9.07.07 to 19.11.07 transfers seem to have occurred at monthly intervals:
9.07.07 £6990
8.08.07 £5000
13.09.07 £10000
10.10.07 £25000
19.11.07 £4623.75
Channel Four seems to be opening a new line of inquiry re the Progressive Policies Forum Ltd.
A permitted donor is
(b) a company -
(i) registered under the Companies Act 1985 or the Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1986, and
(ii) incorporated within the United Kingdom or another Member State, which carries on business in the UK;
There is no evidence that the Progressive Policies Forum Ltd carries out any business.
As Hain did not tell his donors it was for his Deputy Leadership campaign perhaps it is time to re-examine the bank robbery case. After all his government has abolished the principle of double jeaporday
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7184128.stm
Who'd want to donate to a campaign that has already ended in failure? If PPF is merely a front company for donations it is not a permissible donor.
Anonymous said:
"There is also a peculiarity about the frequency, from 9.07.07 to 19.11.07 transfers seem to have occurred at monthly intervals"
Also, the loan of 25,000 is taken very late, in October, by which time he had already picked up some 150,000 . . .
And who is going to invoice four months or more in arrears for services rendered in the campaign period?
Linton's repeated attempts to whitewash Mr Permatan tells me that Hain must be cringeing in his hideyhole as he watches these most unconvincing of efforts from an idiot committing a very public political suicide. Even Hain might be able to do better than Lintion!
It's all to no avail though as by Monday he'll be a slightly darker shade you might liken to toast...