BBC Invade America, Taxpayers Only Casualties
As Speedbird pointed out in the comments earlier, the BBC has Jonathan Beale, Justin Webb, Kevin Connelly, Matt Frei, Jon Sopel and David Grossman covering the primaries.
All reporting on the same thing, all giving the same (incorrect) analysis. Actually to be fair, David Grossman for Newsnight was different, telling us how he'd accidentally put diesel in the car and even filming his own cameraman and producer. At any minute he seemed to be on the verge of saying "Hello mum, I'm in America, on the telly!"
Does the duplication of efforts produce anything of value? Well it gives us clear evidence that the BBC has no budgetary discipline, massive over-staffing and a lot of West Wing fans in News & Current Affairs. The BBC is hardly likely to get a scoop unless it can track down Steve Morgan, Peter Hain's fundraiser who is in hiding, hopefully doing for Hilary what he did for Hain...
UPDATE : Comment makers point out that Simon Mayo is a long way from the Radio 1 Roadshow, he is reporting the primaries for 5 Live. Radio 4's Jim Naughtie is there as well. Kevin Connolly is padding out 5 Live's coverage as is somebody called Rhod Sharpe. Jonathan Marcus and James Coomarasamy are covering for the World Service.
Any more Beeboids across the Atlantic?
129 comments:
You have omitted Simon Mayo of BBC Radio FiveLive who at this very minute is broadcasting his afternoon show from Manchester, New Hampshire. Not bad for a sports radio channel.
you also missed Jim Naughtie from the Today Programme.
Isn't Jim Naughtie also in the States?
Best place for him. Let's hope they keep him. One less Scottish 'socialist'.
Do you get the feeling that the Beeboids know that the game is up? That they might as well make the most of their last two years on the government payroll because when the Tories get in they will be broken up and sold to the Chinese?
Maybe that's why so many NuLabour twats like Agent Orange can't help but stick their noses deeply in the trough. They know they've got two years left to line their pockets and they are making the most of it.
Simon Mayo in New Hampshire for goodness sake. This is only the primaries. By the time they are reporting on the actual election they will be doing the weather reports from the US and a specially commissioned programme for kids: "The Teletubbies go to California".
Just wait until the Euro 2008 and the Olympic Games.
There are no UK teams taking part in the football but you can bet your bottom dollar that hordes of free-loading Beeboids will be there telling us how great the atmosphere is and how hard they are working on our behalf.
But the USA elections are very important for us here. See Nick Robbinson's What Clinton's victory means for us..., What Clinton's victory means for british politics, and the other What Clinton's victory means for british politics. A bigger example of duplication has ne'er been seen.
Well, to coin one of Obama's ideas, it's certainly time for a Change at the Blair-Brown-Conspiracy!
Nick R now trying to spin McBean as the Comeback Kid, and getting well and truly trounced by his commenters.
The combined might of the BBC was applied to bouncing New Hampshire into backing Obama, but apparently their writ doesn't apply in the colonies any more. Someone please tell them.
Jesus, I hadn't read the Nick Robinson tripe! What a complete load of unbelievable bullshit that is! He seems to have completely lost the plot!
To paraphrase Rick Nobinson:
"Hillary Clinton won a single constituency in a fight against members of her own party and this shows that Gordon Brown could still win the next UK General Election against the Tories".
What a fucking retard.
The other day Jon Sopel took a break from dying his hair an unlikely shade of black to explain to BBC World viewers the etymology of the word 'caucus'. Sadly, it had already been explained two days earlier in a less garbled and more coherent manner by CNN, Sky, Fox News, Al-Jazeera etc.
Considering that there are so many of them - how come they don't realise there is a republican primary going on as well?
I had to go to Fox News on the internet to find out where everyone but McCain had ended up!
The sooner we remove the need for a tv licence, the better!
Come on, Guido. It's very interesting stuff. I've been enjoying the BBC's coverage – it's pure porn for fans of politics
Kevin Connolly is also in the US reporting for 5Live.
Monday's Republican primary report to counter Mayo's earlier Democrat theme spent as much time discussing Obama's 'big mo'(tivation) and Clinton's tears as it did McCain's old age and Romney's wealth.
Unfortunately, I bleieve anyone who tries to make a serious point about the nature of the BBC is wasting their time, should change be what they seek.
The BBC is too contorted with its sense of its own self-worth for it to pay any attention. I seriously doubt that, when pressed, anyone of sane person could find reason or want for a public service broadcaster, especially given that it is virtually non-existant in the rest of the western world. I would even propose that publicly owned broadcasting only remains in existance in such countries as China, Burma, and probably Venezuela... which goes to show what sort of governmental system supports it.
I would even wager my grandmother that the average person, when asked, "fancy not paying £130 for TV?" would agree, regardless of the consequences to the BBC. Channels 4 and 5 (and ITV to some extent) are pioneers of the free-to-air quality scheduling without a penny being taken from the taxpayer for their trade.
I reckon, if the tories, or even the liberals, were to put a carefully worded article in their manifesto about dispensing with the lisence fee, they would be effectively buying thousands of votes with ... er... the BBC. Imagine it:
"We pledge, as part of our equality of opportunity and right to access scheme, that the unfair flat rate tax on TV, existent in no other country worldwide, should be abolished in this country."
Its almost too good to be plausible.
"We pledge, as part of our equality of opportunity and right to access scheme, that the unfair flat rate tax on TV, existent in no other country worldwide, should be abolished in this country."
Sadly they would get the most awful coverage by the BBC. Oh, they already do. Might as well take the pledge then!
I saw Matt Frei do a spot report in Culpeper, VA (a convenient 1 hour drive from D.C.) as if he had wandered off into the wild hinterlands.
He said something to the effect of 'this town is gripped by fear of recession...'
Gripped by fear?
Given that what is decided in "115 Volt land" determines what goes on here - even Hague was licking the American boots this morning on the Daily Politics - so I am not suprised about the Beeb's office outing. The intrepid Channel 4 news is there; while Channel 5's 'news' main headline last-night concerned the 'golden globe' award ceremony cancellation ("keep banging the rocks together lads").
Isn't TV news wonderful?
Just my OCD - it has 2 L's Guido
The TV Licence fee is nothing more a 'state propaganda tax'.
The Beeb fills us with BS (hiya Mr 'Evanomics'- wanker!!) on behalf of our so-called leaders and then we have to PAY for it!!
What a scam of the highest order!
R5's Rhod Sharpe is in the US too.
The BBC is reporting that the Senior Salary Review body report is out, but their link goes to an old version.
The recommend increase is 2.6% as reported but there's also a £650 'catch-up' payment per year, whatever that is. This payment is roughly an extra 1% rise so the true recommendation is around 3.6%. This is pure 'Yes, Minister' bullsh*t.
More evidence of anti-Labour BBC bias if ever there was. The corporation should be publicizing the raft of brilliant initiatives launched by our Prime Minister in recent days, not sending its staff on jollies to the US. It's a disgrace that Labour's 2008 Renaissance is not getting the acknowledgement in the media it deserves.
Never mind the BBC, what about the stay-at-homes at Sky News. Reporting on PMQ's today, Sky Reporter Niall Paterson's end dig a NuLab troll special:-
"There may come a time when the ridiculous hooting of Mr Cameron and his cohorts becomes a Tory liability. But for the time being, the sight of a clearly furious Prime Minister will be too delicious to avoid."
Yet another one to look out for amongst our impartial News media!
BBC Duplication ...
Newsnight
I noticed Susan Watts plugged the "North Face" jacket last night after Grossman gave the brand a puff few days ago .......
It seems the BBC are hoping against hope for a new epoch of enlightened social democracy lead by a Democrat African American President, or even a woman, where peace and understanding will reign in all hearts, so that even the oppressed youth on the streets of Peckham will think he too could become an MP, or maybe a Minister, but then, hang on, I earn more money selling crack. Building on the great peace-making tradition of Democrat Presidents, Kennedy - Vietnam, Johnson - Vietnam, the Age of Change will allow the chattering classes a sound nght's sleep, or eternal sleep if Hillary gets to play with the "Nuclear Football" when she is in a strop.
guys, guys, show a little sympathy here. These are tough choices for yer average hideously white middle class leftoid beeboid to have to make. a wimmin or a person of colour.
How utterly angst inducing, we'll be paying for droves of them to get counselling when they come back after the election. Oh, hang on, it isn't for about six months.
I think that the licence fee should be entirely voluntary, so that all those people who say they would gladly pay £130 or more for the wonderful output of the BBC could put their money where their mouths are.
So, there's nine people who have been mentioned (Beale, Webb, Connelly, Frei, Sopel, Grossman, Mayo, Naughtie and Sharpe). If you have two people (Dems) and two people (Repubs) for TV coverage, and a Newsnight correspondant, and one for Radio 4 and Radio 5, that's still seven. Or what, are people saying only one TV person for three Democrat candidates, and one TV correspondant for the five-six Republicans, and one for radio? This is a country who is our chief ally, whose yearly budget includes £600 billion for its military, and who we will try to get a signature from on any treaty that follows Kyoto. It's a bit more significant than an election in Moldova.
I wouldn't mind watching the BBC's coverage of the primaries if it (a) contained anything other than reheated analysis from US news outlets, and (b) knew who/what it was talking about. Twice the other day I heard a News 24 announcer refer to "Mick Huckabee", as if he were a retired miner from Consett.
Nine identified so far - multiply by 3 for team total including camera operator and producer.
Given most of the analysis seems to be cribbed from U.S. networks is it really necessary.
Maybe a radio team and a video team will do.
They aren't getting any interviews to speak of with lead candidates so why not just cover the main events?
They all follow each other around pointlessly.
Scott hits the nail on the head - the more outlets you have, the more voices you need. But it begs the question of whether we need so many outlets.
You have missed off Jonathan Marcus and James Coomarasamy, who are covering for World Service, World and Regions. See here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7179342.stm
Multiply by 5. There will be a sound man there and a girl that makes sure the presenters hair is done nice and gets the coffee and stuff.
Given Newsnight hosted a great graphic of Michael Crick superimposed as the "News of the World's" mystic Meg (which was removed with some alacrity, so maybe digger objected ?)
Crick could predict ..
Save the budget except he got the Gordon election wrong...drat!
Guido
Have you noticed that all BBC reporters in the U.S. seem to have 'The North Face' jackets on clearly displying the logo - both on front and back....
A coincidence or sponsorship?
@baskerville: Why do you need a crew for each outlet? In fact the BBC joined all its news teams together to make the worlds largest news organisation but actually they just replicate each others work. In the end there is just one story, everything before the result is irrelevant and the guy that tells us the story won't sound any different with the picture turned off so it works for radio. You'll be telling me next the BBC should employ 22 commentators for every footie match - one for each player.
The Tory Trolls have completely lost the plot now. Nick Robinson being favourable to Brown. Are you joking? Nick R has never missed a chance to swipe at Brown, he had a couple last night.
It seems that Hilary’s victory has rattled the Blue Noses, and so it should, especially since David Cameron and the Conservatives back the Republicans in 2008.
Gordon will be overjoyed with the prospect of either Clinton or Obama in the White House. On radio five live on the 8th Jan, Cameron even openly endorsed McCain for president.
So while the States contemplate either its first female or black President Cameron has sided with a Republican in his 70’s. The US election is going to give the Chameleon a headache not Brown.
Hilary has proved that it isn’t over until its over . Something that Team Cameron need to remember, his poll lead means nowt !!!!!
Wasteminster, 2:55, just so.
Unfortunately Jonathan Miller's BBC Resistance site seems to have died, but that's no reason to start paying the tax again. Officially you must pay or you will be crucified, disembowelled, fined £300,000, and made to watch Jonathan Ross. Unofficially, er... nothing will happen ... because the tax is so easy to evade.
It is collected by Crapita's welfare department (aka TV Licensing), peopled by as sad a bunch of loons as you could imagine in sub-prole Britain, 2008. Most of them couldn't find their own feet in their socks, never mind pinpoint your TV set to the nearest millimetre and tell you what you were watching and indeed whether you were enjoying it before they broke the door down.
In a word, TVL are incompetent. If you give them £135.50 by DD you are just as stupid as they are.
There are lots of ways of not paying, chief among which is simply not to incriminate yourself on the doorstep but to maintain a dignified silence, punctuated perhaps by a two-word instruction to depart and then the sound of the latch clicking shut.
Official: monkey man is on the same drugs as Rick Nobinson and Evanomics Davies.
Heh. What happens on Super-Tuesday? For the sake of completeness, to say nothing of opportunistically poncing off the licence-payer, they're surely going to have one reporter per candidate in each of 20+ states.
So, that'll be ~180 reporters, plus sound, video, make-up and a PA. For TV alone that makes 960, and then there's radio to consider. For that number of bods on location, the BBC will surely be contractually obliged to provide a full HR department, to say nothing of an army of Health & Safety goons. So, a thousand-ish!
There are so many of them there are probably not enough cameramen to go round. They will have hired them from agencies at vast expense. And each reporter, cameraman, producer will need to hire at least one car; at least 3 **** hotel rooms and lots and lots of expenses and overtime.
This is a pissing disgrace.
Not only do us license payers have to contribute towards crap programmes such as 'Fat Teens Can't Hunt' (in which a load of fat bastards stumble arounf in the jungle for no apparent reason) and 'The One and Only' (a second rate stars in their eyes), but we have to fork out for these tossers to go on jollies in the states!
Dalai Lama dong dong (previously known as Dalai Lama ding dong) is clearly as nutty as a fruit cake, and as good a reason for never starting a blog site as you are ever going to get. Would you want someone as fucked up as that turning up on your doorstep claiming he is your Nemesis?
Ding Dong
You spray utter shit with your moronic scatter gun approach. Can you not marshall your thoughts into some coherent order Try thinking about you are trying to say?
You once showed promise.
Ding Dong. A village in Tibet has lost its idiot.
... and they all got it wrong!!!
Ding Dong. Wake up. Time to take your medicine.
Jeez, Guido, can't you moderate sometimes...
Anonymous said...
Ding Dong. A village in Tibet has lost its idiot.
You must feel very homesick then!
Oi, Guido. Why have you killed my post?
I was stating, in all sobriety, that we would lose more than you might imagine if the Beeb folded, and gave my reasons. What the fuck's wrong with that, unless you now have a policy of banning anything with which you mildly disagree?
Completely off topic but while the BBC's away the mice continue to lose data
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23431523-details/HIV+records+found+in+a+courier+bag+in+the+street/article.do
New Year New Sleaze
Lee Jasper bids to become TV celebrity
The Mayor's controversial race adviser, Lee Jasper, is in discussions about becoming a "Jonathan Ross-style" chat show host - on an ethnic minority TV station that has received thousands of pounds in Mayoral funding.
The Standard can reveal Mr Jasper's little-known interest in showbusiness - and the alleged role played by taxpayers' money in furthering his ambitions. As well as being a senior adviser to the Mayor, we have learned that Mr Jasper is a director of a "creative talent agency", ibubble25, which promises, according to its website, to provide "ideas that bubble and burst with - scandal, stars, dreams and naughty delights".
Leaked emails obtained by the Standard show that in spring 2006, ibubble25 and Mr Jasper approached a London-based black TV station, BEN TV, which has a valuable free-to-view slot on the Sky digital platform.
...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23431130-details/Jasper+bids+to+become+TV+celebrity/article.do
Claire Bolderson (sp?) is also reporting on the primaries for the World Service.
Will the BBC have a no strike agreement forced on them just before Mr bean shoves 1.9% at them over 3 years or will they be exempt cos he needs his propaganda arm onside?
dalai lama ding dong should be tracked down and have his fingers broken, then who couldn't type so much shit!
our site is being spammed Guido old chap, do some housekeeping please.
Another Northern Crock for Northern Rock.
Sam leaves Newcastle.
There's one thing in ding dong's insane rant that is true. But nobody's interested in exploiting real tragedy. Aside, perhaps, from wondering what sort of mother forces her husband to keep going, when he - honourably - thinks it might, as a consequence of events be time to go....
Press Release: Associated Pratts, London.
UK holds its first Primary/Caucus.
Gruntfuttle Parish Council will be the venue for the UKs' first attempt at copying the US style election process. Up to six locals have registered to vote for the the future leader of this once great nation. Councillor Winthrop said "we are proud to be the first Parish Council to participate in this; err, thingy".
One hundred and forty two BBC news teams have booked into the local five star B&B and one from SKY.
James Night Nighty of the BBC said, "there is no room service and the make-up girl is billeted five miles away".
Polls are showing that Obama Hain-Tango, is a clear 10 points ahead of Gordo Scotshit for the Marxists.
John Humpty Dumpty is away.
Given that they've been denied an election over here, the journos have gone collectively nuts over there.
Right Mr Lama I've copied it in my browser. What now?
Anonymous screw the beeb said...
"Will the BBC have a no strike agreement forced on them just before Mr bean shoves 1.9% at them over 3 years or will they be exempt cos he needs his propaganda arm onside?"
The one thing the BBC will NEVER do is strike and take themselves off-air.
Think about it for a moment... Off-air, they cannot pump propaganda into every home and car in the country, which would be rather important if their argument is with the government, who, say for example, wanted to abolish their licence fee!
Not to mention, that if people where denied their service, then they could legally and justifiably stop the TV licence fee direct debit, thereby losing the BBC even more revenue.
And they would weaken their position even more, because people would switch to other channels instead and perhaps decide that the licence fee is a waste of money and unjustified, if they haven't already.
The reason that the BBC has so many channels and so many outlets, is that it's only goal is expanisonism, in the hope that they become more difficult to attack, the bigger they are. In reality the BBC is still losing viewers and listeners because of multi-channel radio and TV, and poor quality programming, and they should start to realise that, the bigger they are, the more wasteful and pointless they actually seem when their viewers and listeners are in terminal decline, and as so much of their content will not be heard or seen, by the people who have to pay for it.
Nice one with Lee Grasper, Anon. Thanks for posting. I wonder what else Gilligan has up his sleeve. The bugger needs taking apart.
DLDD, you are just going to alienate people, nobody is going to bother reading all that. If you're that obsessed set up your own blog like Tim Ireland did.
So fucking what?
Are these people genuine fur-lined, diamond-studded, ocean-going fruitcakes on day-release from Rampton, or are they merely part of a cynical and subtle bandwidth campaign by [friends of] the Gubmint to make a troublesome and regularly embarrassing site unreadable - by drowning it in illiterate, irrelevant and apparently swivel-eyed twaddle - thus driving away the genuinely interested and usually interesting contributors?
Just the idle thought of an idle fellow.
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THIS WAS THE PRIVATE LETTER TO ANDERS THAT STARTED THE GREAT GLP DISCUSSION.
GO TO LIBERTY FORUM (ABOVE) TO FOLLOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
Tony Blair´s Pedophiles and the Shadow of Rupert Murdoch
Introductory page of a thread - [link to makeashorterlink.com]
To Anders, from Cheska (Berlin-based researcher):
Thank you Mr Anders. The reason why I make a special study now is that a friend from Portugal was privately investigating this story in London. She is trying to make the connections between all these groups in Europe.
Well, when she was walking her regular way nearby the Oxford Street she passed some clowns doing juggling and so on. Then a few seconds later a man dressed as a clown came from the crowd of people and grabbed her by the arm and said to her very close but clear that if she didn´t stop asking questions and leave the country in a day then he would kill her. He said he knew where she was staying and who her friends were. Then he disappeared back in the crowd but did not join the other clowns - he was gone.
So this study I am posting here because it is a popular forum. The newspapers in England know these facts but are not saying. I am very angry that my friend was threatened for trying to find the truth and stop the abuse of children. I suppose it will just go on and no one will care so long as they are not their children.
Well, I will post more when I have translated some transcripts from the German.
Thank you,
CHESKA
A COMPARATIVE STUDY OF TWO PRACTISING PAEDOPHILES: GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH AND GORDON BROWN (BRITISH FINANCE MINISTER)
THE BLACKMAIL OF THE U.S. AND U.K. GOVERNMENTS BY THE MURDOCH PRESS EMPIRE
THE 911 CONNECTION
1. Background to research methodology
2. Reproduction of major stories suppressed by the British authorities
3. Operation Ore: A police investigation that went ´too far´
3. Discussion with British journalist in Germany about Tony Blair
4. Tony Blair, Child Sex Scandal and the War in Iraq
5. Other paedophiles in the British government
6. Paedophiles in the British Labour Party: The strange case of Alan Milburn
7. Paedophiles in the current Bush administration
8. George Herbert Walker Bush and Henry Kissinger: Partners in child sex crime
9. How elite child sex rings are used by Mossad/CIA/MI6 to blackmail UK-US governments
10. How Rupert Murdoch and his media empire is blackmailing Tony Blair
11. Blackmail and the 911 connection
So now I want to discuss some of the things I promised we could talk about. Quite often when I write about these things or just mention them to other people in the media here in Germany, they seem sometimes quite astonished because these facts are coming out of nowhere before their eyes. Now I work mainly from documentation in the public archives of the German government but I also get information from people who are retired intelligence officials and friends who are researching similar things in England, France and Portugal, and a lot of what I am saying can also be found on the internet and in many normal mainstream newspapers.
It is therefore important to understand that nothing I am saying is particularly special or even secret. Let me explain to you the problematic this way. In many countries of the European Union it is illegal for newspaper publishers to print many stories that threaten the government. Sometimes these stories are banned outright and there is no chance to read them as a full text in one place. Then sometimes the governements just say the word and it is a friendly agreement with the publisher or they may even say, okay, let´s publish the story but we shall also change the facts or make them less threatening.
For the researcher this can be a formidable problem because then he has to be patient and spend more time looking through back copies in the mainstream press for clues and often also he needs to examine the specialist press in areas where the government is not so worried about control because these media don´t get to the mass of the people in the usual day-to-day of their lives. But still, if you look hard enough you can always find the truth in the mainstream press, only not in one place at the same time. I have my own personal views on why this is so. Sometimes it is by accident, and sometimes this is by design. Accidental coverage of sensitive facts is much more widespread than most people would think and this can happen for a number of very mundane reasons. The editor simply forgets to filter a particular story or he is not there at his office and has not briefed his junior properly. He may even be ill or take an early day to play golf. So some critical information gets through the net and sits there on paper like a little pearl sparkling in the sunshine. But because it doesn´t link in a coherent manner to what is behind this little jewel, the normal reader simply does not see it or comprehend it for what it is.
Then there are times where for peculiar reasons there are secret trade wars (like mergers, hostile takeovers and editors being poached by competitors) going on between the newspaper owners, sometimes where the political class is involved, and dangerous material is published - but it is not meant to be understood by the layman. I´m not talking about coded information or clique messages in the classifieds, I´m talking about the deliberate and malicious release of information that can only be understood in the context of the story - but only if the context is understood relating to something else on that page or something the publishers within the framework of their political machinations would be bound to know. Now if you know what´s going on behind the scenes then you will understand the import of this information when it catches your eye. Other ways that information is leaked in a contextual manner is when intelligence services have a grudge against someone in the government and maybe they are old friends of the newspaper publisher. So, they want to send a message but they don´t want this message to be sensationalised or understood by the normal ignorant man reading his paper on the train to work.
Someone once said that the best way to hide the truth is to place it in plain sight. If you learn to look at things from this perspective, you will be amazed at what you can uncover. If you want me to be philosophical, then I admit to thinking sometimes that this has everything to do with synchronicity, that is, the truth is a living thing and it wants to survive in the warm light of day, not hidden away in a dark cellar. At the same time, human beings are really quite incredible: they are programmed "from above" to always look for the truth in everything they see, even if they don´t realise it. That´s also why a lot of dishonest people are physically and emotionally ill, because hiding the truth is a full-time job in itself and it demads a lot of self-destructive psychic energy to go on lying day after day. Nonetheless, you still have to have lots of patience and go through writings and published materials in the archives to back-source the validity of the information you have found. It is getting easier now that many texts that were once stored in cellars or on microfiche film are being digitalised. At the same time you have to be aware that some government are using digitalisation to clear out some of the information and stories they don´t think are worth keeping, so you have to be sure that the integrity of your archives is consistent.
Now you can apply this methodology to almost anything you want to research. For one, the entire truth about 911 can be found in the world´s mainstream press if only you would have the time and the patience to read all of what represents the printed output from at least two years before the incident to the present day. But you would also have to study the archived record to understand the context behind those developments.
To repeat what I said in a previous post: This relates to a longer study I made of the recent paedophile controversy among members of the Portuguese government and also the Marc Dutroux paedophile case in Belgium which almost led to a popular revolution against the ruling elites in that country. As you may know, Mr Dutroux pointed the finger at not only the Belgian royal family but also the British royal family (Prince Phillip) and other important figures in the City of London and Whitehall.
I do know that many of these things have also been written about Henry Kissinger and George Herbert Walker Bush, as those cases were discussed in a famous documentary and a published book a while ago and that many young boys were abused for sex in the White House when Bush was Vice President, but those have already been covered by some American journalists and authors. Because all of my research is focused on archived material in Germany and also through close examination of the mainstream press with cross-checking, I can only write properly about what I know coming out of Europe. However I still want to draw parallels and show the connections between the paedophiles in the British government and the famous child sex abuse ring that supplies the White House. It is important to make a comparative study of the the different ways the Americans and the British deal with this issue and to show how it leads to High Treason in both these countries. I also want to show how all this ties to Mossaad and CIA blackmail of their political masters and the crazy turf wars that happen between intelligence agencies who run these syndicates.
Finally, I will concentrate on the immense power of Rupert Murdoch over the British Labour government and how he and his newspapers have been blackmailing Tony Blair for over two years and how all of these interconnections are related to some of the manoeuvrings behind 911.
I can only write so much in English without slowing down in the translation, so I will post when I can.
Thank you,
CHESKA.
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I wanted to translate from a longer version that I had in German but it was taking me too long. Instead I will incorporate these materials in a post later now that I have the necessary permission from the journalist to go ahead with my interview with him. Then I will talk more about Gordon Brown and other pedophiles in Tony Blair´s government.
These below stories are over one year old and are still suppressed in the United Kingdom from a government banning order, although all journalists and editors know the facts and the details, particularly the press and television network of Rupert Murdoch.
Because of these stories Tony Blair is completely controlled by the Murdoch media empire and was recently blackmailed by Murdoch´s top consultant, Irwin Stelzer, over the poilcy toward the European Constitution. I have given some information about him also.
If Blair does not do what Rupert Murdoch wants, such as privatise the BBC and support more deregulation so that News Corp can take over the media completely, then the whole world will get to know about all the paedophiles in his cabinet and the sex stories about Blair and Carole Caplin. More about that in a later essay.
There are some other things about other paedophiles in the Parliamentary Labour Party and two rapists also who were cautioned but not arrested. Rupert Murdoch knows the names and won´t publish because it gives him power over Blair. I will mention the names. They are only ordinary members of the parliament. Maybe I will have to post some stuff in German because I find this very time consuming. - CHESKA (Berlin)
Robert_Douglas writes: "To date, those named in this scandal include Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Peter Mandelson, Lord Robertson, Lord Goldsmith, John Prescott and Alan Milburn.
For more information, please join the Truth Campaign at: [link to makeashorterlink.com]
Edited by Robert_Douglas on 07/03/04 08:51 AM.
(produces biscuit tin!)
"I've got a bomb in here"
"Eeek, has anyone seen my camel?"
I see Paul Hamill's name is mentioned.
Is he any relation to Mark Hamill, who played Luke Skywalker in the original Star Wars trilogy?
Mark Hamill, thats the bloke out of kajagoogoo had to change his name cos of star wars.
dalai, old chap, is there any chance you could edit these massive posts, or post a link or something?
It's a pain in the arse as bad as those children suffered wading through it all.
Thank God the BBC has gone off on their hols - at taxpayers expense needless to say. Hope the miserable set of pinko-Trots have a miserable time.
The Beeb is a state organisation run by Labour. What else would we expect.
Re Nick Robinson - He seems to have lost his marbles since he ran into a fully dressed Beckham. John Redwood's blog comlpmented him a few days ago over the funding repots. Thought he might have pulled himself together. Not so apparently.
LOL dalai lama ding dong caught posting on google groups, uk.politics misc.....
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/1fd8f6ef25a34827/d559a3f4bdf7ba52?hl=en#d559a3f4bdf7ba52
Gonadal Dialing Mad is an anagram of dali lama ding dong cool eh?
dldd doesn't want to post on uk.politics.misc, he obviously wants guido to get off is lazy arse and cover some real stories - not totty watch tittle tattle
Guido is no a public service. dldd can get off his own hairy arse
thank god for the Yanks podcasting their talk radio over the internet - otherwise i wouldnt have had a clue about the Republican primary.
get a load of the Today front page:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/
More Totty Watch please, Guido.
talking of totty... looks like Stephanie Flanders has taken a leaf out of Emily Maitlis' book... tarted herself up superbly...sure plenty of bbc cash was spent on her new look!
Keep it coming ding dong. What do you know about that Jewish guy that was forced out of Thatch's cabinet and into Europe?
It was alleged at the time by Scallywag magazine that Stephen Milligan
was originally approached by the security services to attempt to
dissuade a well-known footballer coming towards the end of his career
from continuing to hawk his story of gay sex sessions with two then
serving cabinet ministers around Fleet Street.
Milligan was a well respected MP and part time journalist. Milligan
allegedly approached the footballer who was not prepared to drop his
attempts to sell the story. Milligan allegedly reported back to the
security services who informed Milligan that unless the footballer did
keep matters quiet he would be eliminated. Apparently there was more
to the story than simply the gay sex aspect, the introduction of the
footballer to the cabinet ministers was allegedly arranged by a third
party who had very close links with an extremely powerful paedophile
ring. The implication was that the cabinet ministers may also have
been involved with the paedophile ring although this was not confirmed
in the Scallywag report, however it was very clearly hinted at.
It was allegedly decided by the security services that the potential
damage to the British Constitution if the story got out was so great
that it would not only bring down the government but could also
destablise the entire concept of parliamentary democracy. The cabinet
ministers involved were very high profile indeed and the alleged
paedophile link, if revealed, would have had a catastrophic effect on
not only public confidence in domestic government but would have had
repercussions on the image of Britain right around the world.
When Milligan realised that the threat to murder the footballer was in
fact serious, he allegedly panicked. He had not realised that he was
being dragged into something with such serious implications and, being
an extremely moral and decent man, it wasn't something he was prepared
to be involved with or to go along with. He allegedly made one more
unsuccessful attempt to convince the footballer to back down, even
warning the footballer that his life was in danger. The footballer
didn't believe that this sort of thing could go on in modern day
Britain and continued to attempt to sell the story, which no editor to
that date had been brave enough to publish.
Milligan was allegedly informed by the security services that, his
efforts at dissuasion having failed, the footballer would be killed
with his death being made to look like an accident. Milligan then
allegedly threatened the security services that, if anything happened,
he would tell the whole story to The Sunday Times.
Shortly afterwards Stephen Milligan died, having apparently hanged
himself and being found with a satsuma in his mouth. He had no
previous history of kinky or unusual sexual practices whatsoever and,
despite their utmost efforts to do so, the national press were unable
to find any evidence whatsoever that he had anything other than an
extremely conventional sex life. Indeed, it was generally reported
that sex and sexuality appeared not to have played a significant part
in his life at all.
The footballer was allegedly approached directly after Milligan's
death by the security services and, now realising that they had been
prepared to kill a sitting MP to keep the story quiet, realised for
the first time that his life was in danger. He allegedly accepted a
sum of money in return for his silence. He hasn't been heard from in
the media since
Trevor Macdonald's programme on the ITV has just announced to it's millions of viewers that UK house prices are going to crash this year and for 3 or 4 years after that by 30 to 40%. That should have a stunning efect on the all important sentiment in the housing sector.
Oh dear, that's the end of Gordon's "economic miracle" then. Even slashing interest rates ain't going to keep the party going now.
Who killed Operation Ore?
net.wars
By Wendy M. Grossman: Friday 05 September 2003, 11:58
AMERICAN READERS probably won´t have followed the case of Detective Constable Brian Stevens, which collapsed a couple of weeks ago with the prosecution blaming the computer experts for making "substantial errors" in analyzing the evidence.
Briefly, the story began with a couple of schoolgirls in Soham, Cambridgeshire who disappeared and were later found murdered. Stevens was the police liaison officer in the case, and became close to one of the families; he even read a poem at the girl´s funeral service. Some time later, Stevens´ name was one of those uncovered in the huge international Operation Ore, an investigation into child pornography on the Internet: his credit card information was on a list of some 7,000 British subscribers passed to the National Crime Squad by US authorities. Stevens was suspended and investigated, and the case came to trial in August with competing computer experts. Those who remember the early days of anti-virus software will be interested to hear that the ever-colorful Jim Bates was the expert for the defense; some ten to 12 years ago Bates wrote one of the first products to make an exact copy of a hard drive.
The collapse of the case has raised doubts about whether other Operation Ore cases can be successfully prosecuted. Less famously, a colleague of Stevens´ was successfully prosecuted and jailed for six months. Stevens himself is presumably still subject to disciplinary proceedings, and it´s easy to imagine that after a space of time he will quietly be dropped from the police force.
The cases raises real questions: do we still, after years of experience, not know how to handle computer evidence? Or is there something really strange going on in that police department? Are we still back in 1991, the days of the Hacker Crackdown, when the police were so ignorant of how computers worked that Barlow, Gilmore, and Kapor had to found the EFF in order to protest the confusion of printed books of rules for role-playing games with hacker manuals?
Peter Sommer, a visiting fellow at the LSE and also, under the name Hugo Cornwall, author of The Hacker´s Handbook, says no. "It´s total rubbish that we can´t manage the chain of custody," he says. Sommer ha