Bad In Westminster, Worse in Scotland
The press is having a field day with Donorgate, nobody believes that knowledge of the Labour party's illegal funding operation was restricted to Peter Watt. Jon Mendelsohn says Abrahams was lying when he said Mendelsohn knew about it, and is suing the Evening Standard, Guido doesn't believe Mendacious Mendelsohn (send writs to the usual address Jonny).
Guido has been trying to get hold of Roy Kennedy, who was the Director of Finance and Compliance when the illegal funding operation was under way, to ask him when he knew about it, with no luck. Presumably the investigating officers from Scotland Yard's Operation Minerva will have more luck.
Guido has been trying to get hold of Roy Kennedy, who was the Director of Finance and Compliance when the illegal funding operation was under way, to ask him when he knew about it, with no luck. Presumably the investigating officers from Scotland Yard's Operation Minerva will have more luck.In Scotland the situation is even worse, Wendy Alexander has broken the law, apologised, then lied, immediately been caught lying and is only still in position because Brown fears that if she goes others will be toppled. Westminster hacks are not really focusing on the Scottish aspect yet. Guido is because he believes she will be charged, grasp this, the leader of the Scottish Labour party will face criminal charges based on documentary evidence. Brown is so scared of the domino effect of his protege Dougie Alexander's sister resigning, that he is resisting internal party pressure for her to go. Mad, it will be worse if she is charged in office.
Labour is trying to spread the blame, with "we're all at it" spin lines. They keep referring to Lord Ashcroft, who makes all his donations to the Tories above board and has actually given less money than Labour's Lord Sainsbury.
They also keep referring to "a breach of the rules", no these are criminal acts, a breach of the law is not the same as cheating at Scrabble. They are now hiding behind the "we're not going to give a running commentary on a police investigation" line (© T. Blair).
Another line they are using is that they have "given the money back". They haven't as yet. It is in any event likely to be confiscated by the Electoral Commission.
There is no real need for new laws or reviews, there is a need for politicians to simply not break the existing laws. If Labour figures had not circumvented the existing laws they would not be in trouble. The idea that this situation is just the result of one publicity shy donor is nonsense, it has nothing to do with Wendy Alexander's problems or Harman's second problem.
Harman's re-mortgage of £40,000 is an illegally undeclared loan - made against her home's presumably joint mortgage - to her leadership campaign. Technically the loan is in equal part her husband's loan. Her husband is Jack Dromey, the Labour party Treasurer, so he has permitted an undeclared loan to be made to the Deputy Leader of the Labour party, a loan from him. That is prima facie an illegal loan by two of the very highest ranking officials. She broke not only the spirit but letter of the law - in two instances - the loan and the proxy donation. Harman, the former Solicitor General, should face charges as a consequence.
Labour is trying to spread the blame, with "we're all at it" spin lines. They keep referring to Lord Ashcroft, who makes all his donations to the Tories above board and has actually given less money than Labour's Lord Sainsbury.They also keep referring to "a breach of the rules", no these are criminal acts, a breach of the law is not the same as cheating at Scrabble. They are now hiding behind the "we're not going to give a running commentary on a police investigation" line (© T. Blair).
Another line they are using is that they have "given the money back". They haven't as yet. It is in any event likely to be confiscated by the Electoral Commission.
There is no real need for new laws or reviews, there is a need for politicians to simply not break the existing laws. If Labour figures had not circumvented the existing laws they would not be in trouble. The idea that this situation is just the result of one publicity shy donor is nonsense, it has nothing to do with Wendy Alexander's problems or Harman's second problem.
Harman's re-mortgage of £40,000 is an illegally undeclared loan - made against her home's presumably joint mortgage - to her leadership campaign. Technically the loan is in equal part her husband's loan. Her husband is Jack Dromey, the Labour party Treasurer, so he has permitted an undeclared loan to be made to the Deputy Leader of the Labour party, a loan from him. That is prima facie an illegal loan by two of the very highest ranking officials. She broke not only the spirit but letter of the law - in two instances - the loan and the proxy donation. Harman, the former Solicitor General, should face charges as a consequence.
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Don't forget the scandal re lack of support for Miss Gibbney in The Soudan.
Over a hundred years ago she could have look for help from Gordon of Khartoum known to history as a Hero. Today she looks toward Gordon of Kirkcaldy known to history as Mr Bean.
God, things really must be bad - they've even wheeled out the demonic dwarf, Hazel Blears on the telly this morning...
Her tactics are never to stop whittering, and thus block any tricky question from coming her way. How does she breathe, maybe she's sucking it up through her backside? - (Makes a change from talking out of it though).
Harman has stated that she has refunded the £5,000 to the donor, but the law states that illegal donations are forfeit to the Treasury, so therefore Harman presumably will have to send another £5,000 to the Treasury!
Also, as the Labour Party keeps insisting it has sent the money back (to whom??) the same will apply. Question in the House to Alister Darling about whether he has received these funds yet.
5 million benefit claimant details missing, Gaaaaaaaarrrr
will she have to pay the £40k mortgaged loan to the treasury as well? If so she'll have to further increase her debts to do this, bankruptcy pending?!!!
Guido, please explain for those of us who are a bit thick as to why she needed to declare this.
Oberon
Why would you want Guido to explain it. Doesn't the fact that has 'admitted' etc prove to you that she had to?
Bobby Darin's Greatest (Labour) Hits
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Labour Scotland....Mack the Knife
for Wee Wendy
Labour England and Wales...........Splish Splash
for sundry Jonmen and Harperons overboard.
WSith all this shit coming to the surface, perhaps we will soon find that there was a hidden agenda behind the Nulab wording of the laws they have been caught breaking. Maybe there is a link to the other scandals involving loans, mortgages and peerages. keep digging Guido and hacks in London and Edinburgh, you are on a roll here.
Yeh but no but, I mentioned this to my wife and she didn't understand why and I couldn't explain. Not that she gives a s**t.
Guido,
Please check out Michael White on Sky this morning saying it's alright to break the law if no one is harmed and admitting speeding on the way to the studio.
All in justification of the Nu Comm crooks.
Hilarious.
Brian *bloated* Taylor, the bbc scotland political chief just said on the scottish version of the politics show, that Alexander would have gone if it wasn't for the Westminster "Donorgate" situation. Along the lines of, ...'if she goes for £950...it would raise questions for the Harman situation'
Apparently wee Dougie has been in the bunker for a week and isn't coming out...
Oberon, I see you Labour HQ trolls are working on a Sunday. Gordon Clown must be well rattled. LOL
Meanwhile the Times reveals a possible 5th proxy donor:
...it has emerged that there may have been a fifth intermediary used by Abrahams to disguise his donations. In 2004 a man called George Crawford gave £36,000 to the party.
Yesterday The Sunday Times contacted a solicitor in Newcastle of the same name. He had been a co-director in a company with John McCarthy, a lawyer who was one of Abrahams’s intermediaries. He said he was not aware of his name being used to make a donation but he said that he did know Abrahams.
Does all this shit for Gay Gordo mean I get to be Prime Minister?
Hazel Blears BBC NEws Online:
She said she was concerned that the row made it "very difficult" for donors who shared a political party's values to donate money and that it was time to look "very seriously indeed" at a cap on donations - which could include trade unions.
But she said individual trade union affiliates should still be allowed to continue to donate their "literally pennies" to the Labour Party.
Is she having a laugh "literally pennies" that's a lot of pennies to make up the several millions that the likes of Unison, USDAW, GMB, TGU etc. hand over year in year out.
Makes you wonder if the Bequests to the Party are real or have Labour discovered "Dead men can't answer" for dodgy donations..hmmm
anonymous 12.29pm, He did the same on yesterday's Today programme, said that he would get away with speeding on the motorway, and thus thats a reason why the NuLab crooks should thus get away with it. I think he has lost it.
bbc scotland just reported that there will be a nulab scotland press conference later today...sounds like wee wendy is fucked...
Did anyone hear that tit Derek Draper on BH this morning? If in doubt just shout seemed to be his technique of dealing with a tricky question. snigger.
seems the Sunday Herald has coined the phrase "Wendygate" *snigger*
Salmond hasn't missed a trick by claiming that there should be a rule for 'scotish donors for scottish elections at hollyrood'
Brown hasn't done himself any favours by announcing urgent 'reforms' to party funding. As his Bill creeps slowly through the Commons, and even more slowly through the Lords, the electorate will be constantly reminded of the fact that Labour couldn't obey the existing laws which they had written themselves.
The Lords' debate will be particularly interesting, with recently elevated Labour peers having to declare their interests. Perhaps they would be advised to stay away?
In the meantime Brown's visionary social transformation will be thrown onto the backburner. His appeal at the next election will be 'Let me finish the job ... that I haven't started yet.'
Solid journalism in today's Sunday Herald - read the three 'Labour in Meltdown' stories.
It seems they managed to lay their hands on a computer (belonging to Wendy's other half) containing donor records - some of the entries for donors have been changed... and they themselves were questioning the Green donation in early November.
Oops!
NuLabour and computers again.
"Is Harrirot in trouble?" Mr Dromedary asks, "no-one ever tells me anything!"
“We're all f*cked. I'm f*cked. You're f*cked. The whole department is f*cked. It's the biggest cock-up ever. We're all completely f*cked."
(Sir Richard Mottram GCB)
Who says the Police have no sense of humour?
The latest enquiry is being called "Operation Minerva."
Remind me what was the name of the property development company that Andrew Rosenfeld and Sir David Garrard were running during the last cash-for-honours enquiry?
How long are these shameless, brass-necked losers going to hang on? It is fantastic how the Labour cabinet has perfected this "won't resign, don't resign" obstinacy in the face of appalling revelations about their moral conduct.
As for Michael White, who seems to have become New Labour defender-in-residence at the BBC, the comparison between speeding and what Labour have been doing is infantile. But it does reveal something about the true nature of Labour double-speak. Over 3,000 new laws imposed on us since they came to power and now McStalin plans even more, including new laws to cover donations! New laws which they will feel free to disregard whenever it suits their slimy purpose. Ridiculous!
Hypocrisy, lies, nepotism, moral corruption, arrogance, vanity, incompetance on a staggering scale. That is the real legacy of Blair, Brown and the New Labour junta. Out! Out! OUT!
Alexander has bottled the statement she was due to give, according to the bbc "for at least a couple of hours"... and is "talking to friends and collegues, to work out how to move forward, in 'toughing it out'" ie shes crying as Gordon phoned her, and told her she cannot resign, because of the domino effect...
Ren: Yep I heard him. And he is a tit. But you can see where they are trying to take this, or rather as usual 'spin' it. Lib Dem donation that's being clawed back was made within the rules. He completely ignores this and just shouts. What a prick.
Brown meets Abrahams ... the evidence we've all been waiting for!
Spot on on "new laws", Guido - that was my first reaction as well, that they'll only break those as well.
Calling in New Labour, calling in New Labour, your time is up, the game is up, cheerio, cheerio, cheerio
The Void - If that's a superimposition on Fletcher and Godber it's an insult to their integrity, of Fletcher and Godber I mean
Whether or not Harriet gets those new pair of shoes she always wanted and keeps the status she believes she has hard grafted for, although being of great important.
Is of far less importance to life the universe and everything then any of the MSM will ever let us start thinking.
Who or what may of may not be drip feading our otherwise ideologically and financialy bankrupt governing party? Is the question.
All hilarious stuff, and I for one am amazed at the political and physical ugliness of all the miscreants involved.
More importantly if it leads to the removal from office of this most despicable of PMs it will have served a higher purpose. This is the man who has countenanced the (literal) bleeding dry of our troops by his malign neglect and underfunding of an institution which, the country at large venerates but he neither understands nor admires.
This perverted closet homosexual has brought his repulsive private mores into the public arena, which he has sullied beyond redemption.
His personal habits (bogey-eating, finger-wiping etc) are merely risible, but his hypocrisy in concealing his true self from the electorate with his homely fag-hag, while surrounding himself in power with his fellow batty-boys is an insult too far.
That this revolting creature, like the slimy Bliar before him is spending tax-payer's money on further "enquiries" into why he and his minions cannot obey even the laws they wrote themselves, while allowing our troops to die and be maimed for lack of a relative pittance enrages me, and I'm sure every right thinking person. Obviously I exclude DES and Mike.
Make no mistake - this charlatan is endangering the Nation by his treason: who would sign up to the Forces under a miserly and evil Mr Bean?
Keep it up Guido - these utter cunts must be done away with.
Scotlands Sunday Herald has some great stories, including a secret donor list that they claim was written (according to the properties tab) on a computer owned by Brian Ashcroft, who they say is Wendy Alexanders husband!
Not only donations, but questions as to permissibility.
http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.1874620.0.0.php
45govt: apparently the story is that wee dougie shut wee wendy’s lips in a door when they were kids and hasn't lost bulging eyed look of terror since...
This is huge. The SNP have published a poll showing the .
It is getting to the point where Labour will not only have just lost an election in Scotland but also lost Scotland irretrievably.
Word is that Wendy will still tough it out because Brown is kacking himself that it could set off a chain reaction leading to his own door.
We could be witnessing a historic shift in Scotland as the final line of Labour voters break ranks.
Brown and his spotty gang of poofs and wankers had better stop trying to pin the blame for all this shit on Blair if they don't want a civil war on their hands. Know what I mean, Gordon you fucking old iron!
"...The most pitiful aspect of the Brown Government's response to the disclosures has been its attempts to finger the former Prime Minister. "As you know, this practice had happened, since 2003," Mr Brown said pointedly at his press conference last week: code for, this is all bloody Tony's fault, as usual. Jack Straw was at it, too, on Friday's Today programme. "It's absolutely true," the Justice Secretary said, "that this seems to go back for about four years."
But the Labour Party dislodged Mr Blair in the coup of September 2000, and he has been gone for more than five months. Mr Brown entered Number Ten promising to clean up politics, end Labour "sleaze" once and for all and govern with a purity fitting for a son of the Manse. The spin from the Brown camp is that this is all Tony, Tony, Tony.
But £220,000 of the money improperly donated to the party by Mr Abrahams via proxies - in this case, Janet Kidd, his secretary, and Ray Ruddick, a Tyneside builder - has been given since Mr Brown became PM. The whole point of his premiership, as billed, was to correct the mistakes of the Blair era: to be, so to speak, a post-Blair leader. Yet Mr Brown seems unable to break the habit of a decade. He is still anti-Blair, rather than post-Blair. Listening to the same old smears against the former Prime Minister, one thinks: is slagging off the man who delivered three general election victories really the best you lot can do?..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/12/02/do0201.xml
You've been told.
Where is everybody? Woman on a raft, man on a shed, 45 govt, RDS, mongoose, Dennis the hunchback, Mr Mitch, Mr Hitch and Mr Tuscan Tony et al?
Are they, like me, appalled at the encroachment by Electro (I'm in a Crisis) Kevin and his great big fucking steam-driven cliche-generating engine, weeping down the Cenotaph and all that stuff, bits of sentimental poetry all dressed up like original material? Better watch out, soon he'll be telling us all about his wife and how he doesn't know how much time to devote to her and how much to his very important blogging on the issues of the day and then how, like Frank Sinatra, he retires for good and all, only to pop back a fortnight later, full of insight to share with the rest of cyberspace.
This used to be a thoroughly unpleasant place, no quarter given or asked, a tidal wave of bile and invective from angry citizens. Now we have pussy-whipped arseholes urging us to go and pray down the Cenotaph I knew it was too good to last.
There's a Council Leader in Essex goes by the same name as that Guardian journo who keeps popping up, he's known as Thick Mick by many, seems like the journo has earned use of the title.
I Spy Wankers - who forced you to read EK's Blog, moron?
It looks worryingly like poor old Micheal White is off on one again.
Perhaps those rumours of manic/depression really are true ;-0
Time for the lithium methinks.
I hear the Durham Constabulary have a few questions for Wee Dougie Alexander so he's going to have to come out of the bunker before long.
Those charmless Alexander siblings really are in deep shit aren't they. Couldn't have happened to a bigger pair of useless, careerist, lying pricks.
I spy stransgers...
I found Electro's comment stimulating and thought provoking and he is of the same stance as 45G et.al.
What's YOUR problem?
Its difficult this for the SNP
Wendy staying is very good news for the SNP
Wendy going is very good news for the SNP
Best of all is a dragging Wendy story over days weeks and police
political and physical ugliness of all the miscreants involved
Oh yes, bring us your ugly people, we will welcome them. One-eyed, cowardly, lavender married, it makes no odds and gets the numbers up.
Forgive them for this slight miscalulation. They have been busy where accuracy really matters - measuring No Smoking signs in pubs, shops and churches to the nearest millimetre.
You can play with Bendy Wendy here: http://www.firstfoot.com/punchapoli/java/qgoo/bendywendy.htm
I spy strangers - I miss the bile too. I wanted to be unpleasant about the great, gay, one-eyed, snot-gobbling, economically iliterate cunt of a hypocritcal arse-bandit and his repulsive beard, but I am on a warning from Guido about calming down or going on the banned list, so I didn't. Anyway, thank god we have stanislav, better qualified in every way.
Hitch is on the wagon, Tuscan is too much of a gentleman, but we may hear from the excellent dennis - I hope so.
And don't be unkind about E-K - he is sound, just thinks more than the rest of us.
Craig Murray has an interesting article on sleaze here.
Sunday Times website: "Donorgate: 10 Labour bosses knew"
Starters for ten:
Gordon Brown
Douglas Alexander
Ed Milliband
Ed Balls
John Mendelsohn
& other members of the aborted early general election planning cabal. Over 220k of unlawfully declared donations came in on Brown's watch - does anyone doubt that finance and tracking donations [aka dash for cash]were not on the agenda during the Brown pre-election planning meetings?
WILL GLAD-HANDING AT LABOUR FUNCTIONS BECOME KNOWN AS 'GRAND-HANDING'?? ALSO Is/Was Brown culpable for any of this during his stint as Labour Party Treasurer?Either under the Law or The Labour Party Constitution?
Guido,small point of correction. Wee Wendy is only Leader of the Labour Group in the Scottish Parliament. Her authority as "Scottish Leader" is not accepted by Labour MPs (many of whom hate the Parliament because it exposes them as a bunch of under-employed numpties, living it up on Westminster salaries and expenses.)
An underlying mystery in Wendygate is the identity of the person who is supplying to the Press all these juicy INTERNAL documents. The latest, originating from a computer owned by Brian Ashcroft, who IS Wendy's husband, is a cracker.
The brothers are fighting like ferrets in a sack...
Anonymous 12:29 PM said...
Please check out Michael White on Sky this morning saying it's alright to break the law if no one is harmed and admitting speeding on the way to the studio.
Hilarious.
I couldn't belive the arrogance or naivety of that follicle challenged moron.
Children say the funniest things!
My six year old had us all spluttering at luncheon the other day.
"Daddy - when I grow up I will vote for Mr Bean because he is sooo funny!"
We all laughed so hard our micro-chips went cold.
Note- word varification pmrip
Are ya laffin Gordo???
Michael Shite is a nark journalist, a turd eating bottom feeder
I cannot understand how they all claim not to know the law when it is clear what they are doing was to get around it.
Take Wee Wendy - her or her team asked for £950. Why? Because anything over £1000 needs to be declared. Fall 50 quid short and you get around NuLab laws on these matters.
Clearly they are well advised on what is what. Just not well enough it would seem. But it is time we stoped giving them the benefit of the doubt and asked this type of question.
It is clear that law makers have broken laws made by their party and government in office. There is just one honorable course of action resignation. But then where is honour in all of this.
I don't know why the torys on here are doubting the integrity of Douglas and Wendy Alexander. Their father was a church minister in Scotland, so they will have been brought up with impekible morals.
new labour is in that much sleaze.
the good news---is we can call ourselves--THE LABOUR PARTY again
45govt: all that stuff about Gordon being gay is wrong. You can see the evidence here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2df4vk
Love The Times headline. "10 Labour Bosses..."
It makes them sound like Mobsters.
Thanks for the laugh 2.18, but that's Capt hook, not Capt Crook!
Why 'ask for' £950? Why? So the donor does not have to be named. What! Are Nuliebour so ashamed of themselves that they think everyone else is as well and would not want to be seen to be associated with them? And if it's got to be less than 1000 then why not 999.99? They are such fucking hypocrites. It just shows how they think. Bring a new law and then work out how it need not apply to them. Wankers
I seem to recall that at one time the Monster Raving Loony Party was proposing the minting of a new coin worth 99p - to make life more convenient.
Any truth to the rumour that the Scottish banks plan to print a new £950 note?
(using invisible ink, obviously)
If anyone still believes that Gay Gordon the cock-sucking Clown didn't know about the "special arrangements" for Abrahams donations then they must be as thick as pigshit.
The sly cunt hasn't got an honest bone in his body.
The inspissated Mr Bean
Performed an act that's quite obscene (outwith the Law)
The Labour crooks will cut and run
As Mr B gives us such fun (guffaw, guffaw)
Bean and Abrahams assure the public there relation has been second to none
And of course Harriet the Horse dances the waltz!
I have been watching how all 3 major parties protect their turf as far as dodgy donations go. So let us imagine at the start they didn't know it was not Kidd or Dunn that needed lionising, Labour fundraisers would have soon found out. 600,000 plus pounds? They would have been camped outside those poor peoples properties with the begging bowl.
How many letters of thanks were sent to other than Mr Abraham's which would have ascertained who in fact was donating all this time?
No PM Gordon Brown. We are not fooled and struggling to disguise all this makes you look ridiculous.
But let us look on the bright side. Shy Mr Abraham has come out of his shell and how.
The reclusive one is practically tap dancing all over the media. Party on sir, party on.
The duckling has turned into a Swan(n Vesta) - strike a light! Yup, light the fuse, David, do Labour in vain
When you see spivvy pond-life-on-the-make like James Purnell and Ed Balls getting into influential positions then you know for sure that we are nearly at the end of the road for a corrupt, decadent, and fag-end government.
The question is, can these greasy scumbags and their sick joke of a leader hang on for another 2 years and what damage will they inflict on the rest of us in that time?
Crystal-gazing, Will Gordon Brown be remembered as a conviction politician or a politican with a conviction?
Mabye Mick White fancies a spell in the cooler..
Oscar Wilde created "Vince" the loyal servant in Dorian Gray after all in Reading Gaol ..
"Party on sir, party on."
The real party will start when Abrahams is arrested by the police at 6am one morning and cautioned. He doesn't look like the strong, silent type to me.
Good to see you working overtime on the Mr F. I have done more typing last week about this than for a long time. Very well done you are leading the way in trying to bring out the truth about this despised Labour government. Brown thinks he can wash his hands of it. WHAT HAS HE BEEN DOING FOR 10 YEARS.
"Oscar Wilde created "Vince" the loyal servant in Dorian Gray after all in Reading Gaol"
Fraid not. Dorian Gray was published in 1891. Wilde was imprisoned in 1895.
Anonymous said...
I spy stransgers...
I found Electro's comment stimulating and thought provoking and he is of the same stance as 45G et.al.
What's YOUR problem?
Stimulating, eh ? You’ll love it then when he starts bleating about his Mrs giving him an ultimatum - it’s the blogging or me Kev, I won’t tell you again. Go and have a look at Lilith-stuff, Kev and his broken dreams are all over that site.. You’ll be happy there, with the bleeding hearts.
Mr 45 Govt, I would love to hear about your marital travails, if you have any. They have to be better than Electro-dildo’s, poor snivelling bastard. Anybody give you an ultmatum and I am sure they’d wind up like poor Mr Jean Charles Julio Ingleses, with a ventilated skull. Are we men, or are something else, some new hybrid of self exposing nancyboy and computer nerd? Lonely hearts in cyberspace. Like the learned Polish philospher, Mr Crocodile Dundee, famously said about a man visiting a shrink: Wassamatter, as he got no mates ?
If I hear anymore about his trouble and strife I’ll track him down and shove his blog up his arse, teach him the real meaning of heartache.
He is not, incidentally, fit to wash Stanislav's nice blue van. And nor am I.
anonymous:
"Wendy staying is very good news for the SNP\Wendy going is very good news for the SNP"
Have you cast a glance over Wendy's likely replacements? Remember the customers in the bar in the first Star Wars movie? Expect Scotland to be independent about the Tuesday after Wendy's successor bellies up to the bar.
Guido, Ken McDonald's take of the week for the Scottish Politics show is a classic and worthy of being posted on Guy News, it leaves the This Week version lying in the dust at the start line!
I guarantee it will make even a cynical Libertarian laugh!
This whole criminal episode gets better and better every paper worse/better than the last.looks like rupert has decided even the bbc havnt dropped the dead donkey on this one.
poor old gordon he has had a kick in is integrity and daddys moral compass appears to be broken im sure that nice mr balls will save him.
"NOT FLASH JUST FUCKIN CROOKED". oh bring on the trolls I hope you get paid up front cos your boss seems to losing money faster than PFI.
a thought was levy smirking at the end of the last scandal cos the fuzz got the right man for the wrong crime???
What a week lies ahead - with he removal of both the Alexander siblings from public life as simply the chaser.....
Better have the engines revving on both the black maria and the meat wagon.
I'm lovin' it! If we can keep NuLab occupied examining their own arses for long enough, there will be
- No more stupid, ill-considered laws
- No more irritating pronouncements
- No more pathetic inishertives
- No more delivering stratergeees for the communerteee
- No more (fill in the rest...)
and then we might actually be able to get on with our lives. Bliss!
I Spy Wankers. I wouldn't do that as you never know who might track you down, sunshine. Hint - I am 6'6" and prone to acts of sensational violence. Especially against morons. You have been warned.
Anyway, what the **** is this to do with the downfall of the "Labour Party"? Or are you Brown, Gordon?
I see that Labour MP, James "photoshop" Purnell washed up on one of the morning news programmes this morning ( his mouth like a badly executed slash in a rotting pumpkin ). He even said that," lessons may well have to be drawn from this." You couldn't make it up. Well he is the Minister of Culture. The culture of sleaze by the look of it.
I don't believe that all of these comments above are really from i spy strangers. Some Labour troll stole his identity after getting hold of some cds and is trying to divert anti-Labour comment threads.
Serious question to constitutional lawyers etc.
Is there any way that a Government with a solid majority can be removed before the end of a full term Parliament against its will?
For example, is there a point at which a Government can be removed by the Privy Council etc?
The point I am making is that no matter how far this story runs and no matter what the various enquiries find the next election may be years away!
Elby the illiterate berserker. Wow. Six feet six. And I bet, like poor Mrs Alexander, that's just your mouth.
It's all very well getting (entirely correctly) vitrioloic on here about Nuliebours crooked dealings, but unless the rest of the meeju, and especially the bloody BBC get equally outraged I am betting less than 30% that these financial shennanigans will actually do for the lying cupid stunt and his rotten government. They are masters of spin and with the help of the BBC it's going to be damn' difficult to get the full mileage out this. Mind you although another two years or so of these shits will be very hard to bear at least they may be in power (ish) when the shit does hit the fan. but why should we have to suffer a recession to sort out this sorry lying load of wankers. Let's hope. Let's really hope that Brown is shown up for the incompetent prat he really is and that everyone in the whole fucking country starts saying - What a wanker. So the 'reputation' he so craves will be naught.
Brown's smear campaign against Pete Watt, who was only acting under orders, is going to backfire when Pete starts singing.
I trust Alan Johnson is ready to step up to the plate.
i spy strangers - been sulking today due to Fawkes nicking my Heffer story without a men'tch.
Also, Mrs Mitch has had me on domestics.
BTW - there are actually 2 mitch's; that's why we look so prolific. We started posting around the same time and not bothered changing our ident (unlike the lame Hitchens). By definition, only we know the difference.
Two for the price of one, or just as shit as each other? You decide.
jonathan hemlock said...
Who says the Police have no sense of humour?
The latest enquiry is being called "Operation Minerva."
Remind me what was the name of the property development company that Andrew Rosenfeld and Sir David Garrard were running during the last cash-for-honours enquiry?
Er ... maybe the Times knows...?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article696771.ece
Prescott caught in loans row
Gareth Walsh and Robert Winnett
JOHN PRESCOTT made planning decisions in favour of two property developers who had given secret loans and a donation to the Labour party, it emerged this weekend.
The deputy prime minister gave his backing to a controversial £600m scheme proposed by Andrew Rosenfeld, chairman of the Minerva property company, only months after Rosenfeld had secretly loaned Labour £1m last year.
It was the second time Prescott had favoured the company. In 2003 he approved planning permission for a controversial skyscraper in London.
At that time the chairman of the company was Sir David Garrard, who had only months earlier given Labour £200,000. Garrard went on to lend the party £2.3m last year and was nominated for a peerage.
Given the company’s links with the Labour party, critics say Prescott should have stood aside because of the potential conflicts of interest. Prescott, however, insists that he did not know about the secret loans and that he was following his planning inspectors’ advice.
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The disclosures come two weeks after The Sunday Times revealed a secret loans scheme that allowed Labour to conceal millions of pounds given by wealthy backers, who were then nominated for peerages. It also emerged this weekend that:
Tony Blair knew four businessmen had secretly loaned millions of pounds to Labour when he chose them as his nominees for peerages, demonstrating for the first time his hands-on role in the loans for honours scandal.
Police investigating the allegations have written to Downing Street asking for any documents, letters and e-mails relating to the award of honours to financial supporters to be disclosed immediately.
Blair is believed to have been informally warned after the general election by the Appointments Commission, the watchdog that vets peerages, that it would no longer tolerate the elevation to the Lords of unsuitable candidates who had financially supported parties.
Minerva has been chaired by Rosenfeld since April last year, after Garrard stepped down. Six months later — and after Rosenfeld had loaned Labour £1m — Prescott made his decision in favour of Minerva’s plans for Park Place, a 1m sq ft US-style shopping mall in Croydon, south London.
The £600m mall had previously been granted planning permission but the development was at risk from a rival scheme, a proposed extension to a nearby existing shopping centre which, if allowed to go ahead, would have scuppered Minerva’s project.
Prescott killed the rival scheme, put forward by a consortium called Whitgift, by rejecting its appeal against an earlier refusal by inspectors to give it planning permission.
In a letter on October 5 from Prescott’s department to Whitgift, Prescott acknowledged that granting it planning permission would have meant Rosenfeld’s Minerva project was “unlikely to proceed”.
The letter praised the Minerva scheme, saying: “The secretary of state agrees that Park Place would achieve development which is important to bring about the desirable quantitative and qualitative improvements in retail provision in Croydon.”
Before the decision, Minerva had suffered heavy losses. Days after Prescott’s announcement, shares rallied, boosting the value of Rosenfeld’s personal shareholding by £4m.
Park Place was the second of the company’s developments to benefit from a Prescott decision following cash support for Labour from a Minerva chairman. Prescott decided not to “call in” for further scrutiny plans for the 50- storey Minerva tower, due to become the tallest building in the City of London — despite intervening in two similar developments by other companies.
Prescott was asked to decide the fate of the £500m tower six months after a £200,000 donation to Labour in June 2003 by Garrard, then chairman of Minerva.
Garrard later gave his loan of £2.3m to Labour, although by the time of Prescott’s announcement on the Croydon scheme he had stepped down as chairman and sold his shares in the company.
The loans from Rosenfeld and Garrard build on their earlier support for causes linked to Labour. Both have provided financial backing for Blair’s city academies, and the wife of Lord Levy, Labour’s chief fundraiser, runs a charity from Minerva’s headquarters.
Last week a spokesman for Rosenfeld said Minerva share prices had risen in response to news of another of its London developments, Walbrook, and in line with the market generally.
“The reason the share price has gone up — the principal reason — is to do with the announcement that Minerva was proceeding with its development at Walbrook in the City of London.
“The other reason is that the share price has realigned — recovered — to the same level of other property companies. As they have all moved up, so has Minerva’s.”
A spokesman for Prescott said yesterday that the deputy prime minister denied any impropriety in reaching decisions affecting the Minerva schemes.
A spokesman for the Whitgift consortium refused to comment.
Dear Mr Praguetory.
It happens to be, quite properly, an anti-Labour thread. They are well due a very very serious kicking which should incorporate imprisonment, pour engourager les autres (to set an example to the others, Elby.) But the overall flavour of the site, if Lord Guido will permit me, is the utterly poisonous nature of the whole gang of self-serving degenerates in the Reptile House and in the Street of a Thousand Arseholes.
The infamies of the geat Democrat, Clinton, begat the greater sins of the unspeakable Bush; the, by comtemporary standards, minor sins of the Major years begat, even encouraged the organised crime families presently shitting in our faces. (Infamies, Elby, are bad things)
So I spy strangers is properly non-partisan, not diverting anti-Labour threads and will chastise and rebuke and, with any luck, personally offend the whole squalid gang from Broadcasting House through the House of Reptiles, the TUC, the Bank of England and Sr James' Palace. And will especial regard to Mr Michael Kneepads White and Mr Toilets Maguire. And so should we all until some acceptable form of civic organisation is arrived at. Especial, Elby, is old Polish for particular; like what you're not, especially when it comes to your Mrs.
As you say, Guido:
"There is no real need for new laws or reviews, there is a need for politicians to simply not break the existing laws."
Absolutely spot on!!!
And, if this miserable shower can't comply with the laws that they themselves have introduced, then they should face the full consequences
BBC seem to imply that Wee Wendy has dug in her heels and is staying on as she still wants to do something to help the Scottish people.
Perhaps she is really a closet member of the SNP?
SCUM, SCUM, SCUM...err, recurring
CRIMINAL investigation begins into Wedny Alexander. Christmas has come early!!
good news it after half past four and Wendy remains
Its difficult this for the SNP
Wendy staying is very good news for the SNP
Wendy going is very good news for the SNP
Best of all is a dragging Wendy story over days weeks and police
Brown's days are clearly numbered when even loyal Labour cheerleaders like John Rentoul start writing him off:
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/john_rentoul/article3215771.ece
Rentoul tips Idiot Boy Dave Miliband to take over as leader from Brown within 12 months.
Brown is already a lame duck and he may not even last for another year. Idiot Boy Mili won't get it on a plate however. I hear Johnson, Hain and at least one other are already canvassing support for themselves.
i spy strangers said
If I hear anymore about his trouble and strife I’ll track him down and shove his blog up his arse, teach him the real meaning of heartache.
I think that Electro-Kevin would enjoy nothing more than a face to face confrontation with you, you pathetic creature.
But then most people who have a black belt in any martial art don't get their jollies by kicking the crap out of weirdos with obvious drink or drug problems.
45govt, I am still here, though mainly lurking, too appalled to do much else.
Lola 4:12, you are quite right. The BBC is back-pedalling as much as it can, headlining Brown's diversionary tactics (looking into funding of all parties, as though this were not a uniquely New Lab scandal). I feel in my bones Brown will get away with it -- until the next election, when he will probably be shafted, though we don't know where the LibDems will be in 2-3 years' time.
At risk of trespassing on Guido's server-space, I reproduce here some words I posted a while back. If the BBC's antidemocratic tactics enrage you, there is something you can do about it.
Fed up with the BBC?
I am. I threw out the TV set some years back and made the mistake of telling TV Licensing I would no longer need a licence. For my pains I got letter back which, in so many words, accused me of being a liar and cheat.
TV Licensing is a trading name of Capita plc. The TV licensing authority is the BBC itself. So when you get a threatening letter from TVL, it may as well be on BBC letterhead.
Among their arsenal of threats are these:
(1) They have sophisticated electronic detectors which can pinpoint your TV set and even reveal which channel it's tuned to.
(2) They will obtain a warrant to search your house if you refuse them entry.
(3) If you are caught with a TV set you will be fined £1000.
The reality is this:
(1) The "detector vans" are almost certainly a myth. Evidence from electronic detection has never been adduced in court. In any case, only cathode-ray tubes could provide a detectable signal. Plasma and LCD screens could not.
(2) Warrants are extremely rare, and are issued only in cases where householders have, in effect, stuck two fingers up at TVL. They can be obtained from a magistrate only when there are serious grounds for suspicion -- a TV set has been heard or seen receiving live broadcasts, neighbours have ratted on the suspect, etc. TVL operate mainly by terrorizing the ignorant into paying up. It is a sales-based organization, and the enforcement officers get a bonus of £18 for every licence they can sell. That's why "detector vans" have gigantic "aerials" on the roof; that's why the whole farrago of Big Brother propaganda is promulgated by the BBC. They know they have no real means of catching evaders, so they use mind-games instead. The vast majority of prosecutions result from people incriminating themselv