What Laws Have Been Broken?
There seems to be a smorgasbord of potential offences committed in this illegal funding operation for the Labour party. Money laundering, fraudulent misrepresentation, numerous offences under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000, the list goes on.So all you loafing lawyers and amateur barrister wannabees, lets see if we can compile a list of potential charges to be faced in the comments. Should make pleasant reading...
113 comments:
It all reminds me of Yes Minister's Sir Humphrey and the setting up of a 'Leak Inquiry'.
Mr Bean - absolutely!
Cheers Guido....
Anon
1. If you give money to an employee (even to pass on to some one else) surely there is some tax to pay somewhere along the line?
2. On the same theme have Money laudering laws been broken?
3. Oh yes Electoral law.
4. Any planning iregularities...
The crime of Buggering-up the Nation - for which they will be hung, drawn and quartered by the Court of Public Opinion. If there's any justice...
Is this just offences against the criminal law, or are we to include offences against nature, like Mrs Blears ? If we start on Mr Browns unnatural activities we'll be here all fucking night and into tomorrow.
- PPERA 2000: Hiding donations behind agents
- Money Laundering : Seeking to hide the source of funds through use of intermediary or settlement agents (although difficult to argue that the funds would be used for criminal or terrorist purposes)
- Fraud : Using false identity of persons unknown to distribute cash payements without their agreement. This could also constitute identity theft
- Tax Avoidance : Was tax paid by the recipients of these cash payments on receipt and prior to onward transmission to the Labour party? Arguably these monies were a gift and subject to taxation
- Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. The sequence of events has been a bit unclear hasn't it. Let's see if the Labour party is open and honest with Inspector Knacker. They were not to Inspector Yates!
- Public corruption : Removing the Section 14 block on that tasty business park development Abrhams had underway through the payment of monies (er sorry political donations)
- Misfeasence in Public Office : Brown and Co. are simply embarrasing and couldn't organise a p up in a brewery
Treason
If Treason is an action which ‘attempts to overthrow or destroy the constitution’.
Rationale:
"A ruler who violates the law is illegitimate. He has no right to be obeyed. His commands are mere force and coercion. Rulers who act lawlessly, whose laws are unlawful, are mere criminals".
John Locke
To rule illegitemately is to overthrow or destroy the constitution. Witness our attitude to Pakistan, therefore, treason.
Just a thought
'Urinating in a public convenience.'
'Coughing without due care and attention.'
'Looking at me in a funny way'
'Walking in a loud shirt in a built-up area during the hours of darkness.'
'Walking around with an offensive wife.' - this one's definitely true.
With acknowledgements..
Cyclops
"illegally taking us to war without a vote by Parliament".
Do you ever pay attention or is the world only as you believe it to be? You might not have noticed but there actually was a vote in Parliament and it was a big event at the time: Blair on the ropes; stormer of a speech; wins the vote; therefore war not illegal under British law.
As for international law; there is no such thing, just a series of treaties.
How about Huhne, for wasting Police time?
And less frivolously, is the funding of the Sedgefield by-election open to investigation?
I don't bloody care as long as the police get on with it and don't let the bastards change all of the computer discs (again) to forestall any enquiry! Do it quick!
96. Outraging Public Decency
Surely, gobbling in the Palace of Westminster is an outrage to public decency. (No, no, not that one. The other one.)
recusant
Pushing it a bit here, love. The intelligence by which parliament was misled was cooked up by John Scarlett, ghost-written by pornographer Ali Campbell, The british law you refer to is interpreted by "Lord" Goldsmith, a man who desn't know from one day to the next where his arse is, in relation to his elbow, but could tell you every farthing of his pension. Even utter bloodthirsty cunts like Michael Howard now say they would have voted differently if not lied to by the Blair Gang. Cyclops is substantially right and you're just a nit-picking pedant. I bet you read Richard Dawkins books
Do you ever pay attention or is the world only as you believe it to be? You might not have noticed but there actually was a vote in Parliament and it was a big event at the time: Blair on the ropes; stormer of a speech; wins the vote; therefore war not illegal under British law.
OK you got me on that one - HOWEVER during the briefing to Parliament by Bliar they were all hoodwinked by totally false bullshit about Saddam being able to launch missiles at the UK with < 45 mins, add in the nobbling of Goldsmith by his counterpart when he was flown for 'the treatment' in DC just days before the HOODWINK (Freemasonic term, most appropriate) and then miraculously Goldsmith doing a volte face (accompanied by at least 1 major resignation from his department), add in the fact that Bliar agreed to go to war at Camp David (minuted by a journalist) with Shrub 43 many many MONTHS earlier...
As for a series of treaties the generals were adamant that they were given the all clear by Goldsmith before they began their war crimes...and he complied...
Who benefits?
Israel.
How many Jews within the establishment, the well-known Jewish Mafiya, you know, the ones at the root of all this bribery and corruption RIGHT NOW (Mendelsohn, Abrahams, Levy, Straw, Labour Friends of Israel et al etc etc etc) are laughing their socks off at how they have manipulated the UK to fight their wars for them? Exactly the same thing is happeningf with Perle and his 95% Jewish neocons in the PNAC movement in DC, the ones Bliar and Brown sold their souls and this country down the gutter to ever since Bliar came to power after the John Smith assassination.
TREASON at the highest levels.
Still carries the death penalty I do believe.
All depends on the facts as eventually uncovered but its always best to go to the heart of these things so here are a few areas of interest to get on with:-
All taken from PPERA 2000
Section 47
If the hidden donations result in false statements in the accounts that is a possible offence committed by the Treasurer
Section 58
If a donation breaks the rules and the Electoral Commission applies to the Court the Party may be ordered to forfeit an amount equal to the donation. This is a civil process and therefore easier to prove.
Section 61
(1)A person commits an offence if he—
(a) knowingly enters into, or
(b) knowingly does any act in furtherance of,
any arrangement which facilitates or is likely to facilitate, whether by means of any concealment or disguise or otherwise, the making of donations to a registered party by any person or body other than a permissible donor.
(2) A person commits an offence if—
(a) he knowingly gives the treasurer of a registered party any information relating to—
(i) the amount of any donation made to the party, or
(ii) the person or body making such a donation,
which is false in a material particular; or
(b) with intent to deceive, he withholds from the treasurer of a registered party any material information relating to a matter within paragraph (a)(i) or (ii).
Section 65
(4) The treasurer of a registered party also commits an offence if he delivers a donation report to the Commission which does not comply with any requirements of this Part as regards the recording of donations in such a report.
(5) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, it shall be a defence to prove that he took all reasonable steps, and exercised all due diligence, to ensure that any such requirements were complied with in relation to donations received by the party during the relevant reporting period.
(6) Where the court is satisfied, on an application made by the Commission, that any failure to comply with any such requirements in relation to any donation to a registered party was attributable to an intention on the part of any person to conceal the existence or true amount of the donation, the court may order the forfeiture by the party of an amount equal to the value of the donation.
Section 68
(1) This section applies where a person (“the donor”) has during the course of a calendar year made small donations to a registered party whose aggregate value is more than £5,000.
(2) The donor must make a report to the Commission in respect of the donations which gives the following details—
(a) the aggregate value of the donations and the year in which they were made;
(b) the name of the registered party to whom they were made; and
(c) the full name and address of the donor (if an individual) and (in any other case) such details in respect of the donor as are required by virtue of paragraph 2 of Schedule 6 to be given in respect of the donor of a recordable donation.
(3) The report must be delivered to the Commission by 31st January in the year following that in which the donations were made.
(4) The report must, when delivered to the Commission, be accompanied by a declaration by the donor stating—
(a) that small donations whose aggregate value was that specified in the report were made by him to the specified registered party during the specified year, and
(b) that no other small donations were made by him to that party during that year.
(5) A person commits an offence if—
(a) he delivers a report under this section which does not comply with subsection (2); or
(b) he fails to deliver such a report in accordance with subsection (3) or such a report, when delivered by him, is not accompanied by a declaration under subsection (4); or
(c) he knowingly or recklessly makes a false declaration under that subsection.
That should keep everyone busy for a while.
Had no idea there was an offence of "fraud".
Personally, I'd start at False Accounting. Easiest offence under the 1968 Theft Act to prove.
Did the campaigns for leadership each publish accounts?
Fraud Act 2006
2 Fraud by false representation
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a
representation as to the state of mind of—
(a) the person making the representation, or
(b) any other person.
(4) A representation may be express or implied.
(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it
(or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device
designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without
human intervention).
3 Fraud by failing to disclose information
A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly fails to disclose to another person information which he is
under a legal duty to disclose, and
(b) intends, by failing to disclose the information—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
4 Fraud by abuse of position
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act
against, the financial interests of another person,
(b) dishonestly abuses that position, and
(c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his
conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.
5 “Gain” and “loss”
(1) The references to gain and loss in sections 2 to 4 are to be read in accordance
with this section.
(2) “Gain” and “loss”—
(a) extend only to gain or loss in money or other property;
(b) include any such gain or loss whether temporary or permanent;
and “property” means any property whether real or personal (including things
in action and other intangible property).
(3) “Gain” includes a gain by keeping what one has, as well as a gain by getting
what one does not have.
Please use and pass on.
Offence: Statutory Conspiracy. Criminal Law Act 1977
Statutory conspiracy is defined by section 1 of the criminal law act 1977
Under section 1(1) if a person agrees with any other person or persons that a course of conduct shall be pursued which, if the agreement is carried out in accordance with their
intentions, either -
(a) will necessarily amount to or involve the commission of any offence or offences by one or more of the parties to the agreement
I note that the "Treasurer of a Political Party" seems the person to cop this one - could that explain Jack Dromey's rather bitter comment of "complete concealment"?
Wonder what the atmosphere was round THAT breakfast table?
Sadly, this bunch of thieving arse-wipes spotted the risk to their necks for treason - so one of the first things they did was to abolish the remaining cases for death penalty in 1998.
So it is back to the pitchforks and piano wire of the mob if you want the job done properly.
Mr Stanislav small correction please.
Mr Campbell is not a pornographer.
Mr Campbell is a retired pornographer, alcoholic in remission, manic depressive, overated journalist, liar(as per High Court Judge), bully boy, evil propagandist, polluter of the body politic and now a self pitying bloke about town trying to bury his past. Whatever is rotten in NuLab will have his fingerprint.
His one decent act was to smack Fat Charlie, Brown's Goebells
Proceeds of Crime Act 2002
- Section 77 suggests that the Labour Party may have received "tainted gifts";
- The Labour Party, specific Officers such as Watt and Mendelsohn, and others who were aware of Abrahams' conduct like Baroness Jay, appear to have committed a range of offences under Part 7 of the Act, which deals with money laundering.
It is worth noting that Baroness Jay is possibly the least trustworthy of people with regard to party funding. She was the Chairman of Trustees for the Labour Leader Office Fund - Blair's 'blind trust' - who falsely claimed that Geoffrey Robinson had never donated to the fund. In fact he had done.
Janet Dunn (lollipop lady) is changing her story - say's she did send a cheque for 25k.
Has she had a 'refresher' meeting with Broon?
Mr Crackers
Mea culpa and Amen.
Just seen Fat Charlie on TV; You are not questioning the PMs integrity, are you, he spluttered.
By the way. Is Mr Harman paid any money by Labour members for spectacularly failing in his duties as a treasurer? If it's a fiver a week its a fiver too much. Dunno how he can show his face. How can you be a Treasurer and not know, time after fucking time, not once, but dozens of times, where millions and millions of pounds is coming from? Is fucking misrepresentation, money by false pretences, theft and deception.
Did he get the post because he failed in his trade union ambitions and was married into Labour aristocracy and people felt sorry for the beardy bloke with nothing to do?
Apparently she had 25K turn up in her account and her employer asked for a cheque with the beneficiary not filled in.
Oh dear. I think she is going to find out about the money laundering laws.
As others have already noted today, one is struck by the links with Labour Friends of Israel. Somewhere in the blizzard of statements since this broke I heard one of Abrahams's acquaintances express genuine surprise at his apparent wealth.
Planners are usually suborned at local level -- at district or county councils. Surely the DoT would have taken advice from the local politicians on the advisability of granting permission for the business park. Local politicians are cheaper to buy and much easier to control thereafter.
Also as others have wondered, was Abrahams acting as a conduit, just as his stooges acted as his?
What is going on in the Middle East?
We have to ask, cui bono?
We know what cui bono means, you stupid fucking cunt.
Christ, this is getting serious. They are even talking about it on Popbitch!
The link with Labour Friends of Israel leads you straight to Lord Cashpoint as well as to Master Milligram.
In fact every fucker seems to have a hand in this.
Except Jack Straw of course.
In an earlier thread at 2:05 PM Thomas Gordon made reference to following the money, and made reference to the details below:
From the BBC's website no less -
HMRC's property estates are now owned by Mapeley Steps Ltd, part of the Bermuda-based Mapeley Holdings Limited, a company ultimately owned by George Soros and US group Fortress Investment, which describes itself as an "alternative investment" company.
"Steps" stands for the "strategic transfer of the estate to the private sector".
The findings of the Lyons Report sit very nicely with arrangements like this
I wonder what the relevance may be? Most peculiar.
yeah - he makes them records
charges of--STUPIDITY
Straw as PM within 6 months...
Please, no.
Cyclops and voynod
One of the north london types who hoped to be enobled after an approach by the noble lord levy categoricaly stated that he made the £2milion donation for one reason alone and it wasnt to become a lord
It was to show his appreciation for the invasion of Iraq.
He is actualy a Conservative voter.
word verification
oyvey
Stop blocking the road to jobs.
"A top Government adviser has ordered road chiefs in the region to stop blocking key developments at the last minute, amid warnings that they were jeopardising vital North-East jobs."
This was in December last year. According to the article the 'top Government adviser' also sits on the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee.
(I have been reading this FoI request on the Department for Transport's website.)
Cyclops
Ah, it's the Jews is it?
Oh dear, we really are out there aren't we? I see we are being pontificated to by someone who would like to believe The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is true.
Mitch re earlier post elsewhere on this blog.
I have just viewed tape of Nick Robinson's interview with Harman(see Raedwald blog). View it.
Her mantra 'we received £5k from J Kidd, checked if she was a Lab donor and she was. So we banked the cheque what could be simpler'
Robinson ' How did she make contact with you?' H 'Dont know'
Robinson 'Can you categorically state that you/your team did not CONTACT HER for a donation'
H (blinking furiously) 'Well she may have called us, or we could have called her'
Mitch believe you me the correct sequence is this.
Harman to Jack D. 'Look Jack I am £10k out of pocket on my campaign. Cant you call Peter Watt and see if he can help find a donor.
Jack calls PWatt who says OK. Ask your team to phone a Janice Kidd who is a front for ole Abrhams and she will send £5k. BTW It may be best if you dont mention Abrahams to Harriet just in case.
Jack tells Harriet who gets her team to phone Miss Kidd who is waiting for the call cheque book at the ready.
This is how the £5k got to Harman. Brown knows this which is why he is so revolted by this woman who has got him into this mess.
Any half decent plod could get one of Harman's canaries to sing with 5 minutes. The woman is a brazen liar.
Brown seems to be taking "an enquiry a day" to keep his blood pressure down.
In fact, they seem to him a more than adequate substitute for the more rigorous treatment comprising a suppository of charges and a legal enema...
Yeah, get the police in, I'm sure Sir Ian "shoot 'em high" Blair will really do this justice. What has he got to be worried about? He got away with shooting someone so clearly he has something on Brown that makes him almost as teflon as Tony.
Is there anyone involved in fund raising for Labour who isn't Jewish?
I am a loafing lawyer, and I claim my £5!
And I've just blogged again on this today to summarise what potential offences may have been committed here.
If the insinuation is that this is a payback from Mossad for the the Labour Party's interest in the Middle East peace process and participating in the Gulf War a rather larger bung would be necessary.
Who funds Bliar?
A reading of Professor MacDonald's Culture of Critique may prove enlightening:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books.htm
bona fide said...
"We know what cui bono means, you stupid fucking cunt."
What a charmer!
Curious thing the modern Labour Party - it seems to be totally dependant on Jewish money and Moslem votes. No wonder it's falling apart.
This Government under Brown has turned into much better viewing than any "reality tv" show,i just love it trying to guess each week who will voted off..
Their scandals indeed top "phone in rip-offs" too.
He is Bruce Forsythe and AntonDec rolled into one but with a fecking piss poor script.
Pokyer Face and guess who has "Strictly Come Lying" the best show out..to think Charlie had to go cos he liked a drink !!!!!
Saw it on the 1 o'clock news.I thought Vice Cable said: MR BEAM. As a double play on Mr Bean and Brown's rictus grin for the last few months!
anon 4.57:
"the modern Labour Party - it seems to be totally dependant on Jewish money and Moslem votes"
Multiculturalism in action in today's Britain....
Crackers - sounds good. The key point is the money was given AFTER the contest therefore couldn't have been to support her campaign. Probably tidying up, as you say. Plus Abraham is himself v. uncomfortable with this bit of the story so perhaps realises it's not clean.
Someone needs to clarify with both Abraham and Harman how the £5k was arranged. No doubt these will conflict.
Anyone old enough to remember the 1980s American Spoof soap opera called 'Soap'? This all sounds just like an opening for one of those episodes.
Perhaps Guido should now recast NuLabour as Eastenders or perhaps Westminsterenders.
It's almost beyond parody.
Thinks wistfully of the days when John Poulson, T. Dan Smith and George Pottinger got 7 years for bribery and corruption of Reginald Mauldling. Of course we should recall that all the MP's in that case (Cordle included) got off on the usual technicality that 'Members of Parliament could not be considered as in charge of public funds' ...
Brown, like Maudling before him, is beginning to realise that "It will never be glad confident morning again."
Thinks wistfully of the days of the French revolution.
Anon @ 4:42
"HMRC's property estates are now owned by Mapeley Steps Ltd, part of the Bermuda-based Mapeley Holdings Limited, a company ultimately owned by George Soros and US group Fortress Investment, which describes itself as an "alternative investment" company."
"Steps" stands for the "strategic transfer of the estate to the private sector".
The findings of the Lyons Report sit very nicely with arrangements like this
While Cyclops the jew baiter and his chums yak on about those ‘evil jews’,some of us have been doing a little digging on Nu Lairbour....
Have a look at this piece on HMRC
http://bbc-biased.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-this-mafia-needs-to-go.html
Then ask yourself-
Why is an off-shore company incharge of the estate (including some aspects of physical security) when the Treasury Select Commitee had so many 'concerns'?
Why is Crapita incharge of personnel and organisation with such close links to Lairbour re-Rod Aldridge and his peerage?
Why is CapGemini running IT projects for HMRC?
And why is everything moving North to Lairbour Strongholds?
Then ask yourself about the underselling of Qinetiq :
http://bbc-biased.blogspot.com/2007/11/has-brown-been-interfering-
Why was it sold to the The Carlyle Group for less that the price asked for?
Where has the pension fund gone?
Why were Civil servants brought off?
Why were the the National Audit Office so concerned?
All roads lead to George Soros who owns both Maperly AND The Carlyle Group ,friend of ‘King Brown,Malloch-Brown and the rest of the Lairbour goon squad, funder of move.on org,backer of the Donkeys in the US,political activist and now the ultimate owner of HMRC buildings,the MOD’s Crown Jewels and probably half of the UK.
Just a theory mind but the likes of local buisness men like Abrahams just do the donkey work and set up those nice business parks to set up Nu Lairbour ‘friends’ in nice shiny new buildings while Maperley makes a killing selling off old HMRC buildings in Tory areas like Worthing.
Who knows where the magic tunnel leads but follow the money ladies and gents,then you get into the dark side of 'Common Purpose'......
As far as penalties are concerned, Guido: Schedule 20 sets out the applicable penalties - for all the offences I mentioned the penalty is:
- on summary conviction: statutory maximum fine (£5000) or 6 months
- on indictment : unlimited fine or 1 year.
"TREASON at the highest levels.
Still carries the death penalty I do believe."
Not any more it doesn't, courtesy of the EU.
If the payment constitutes a criminal offence - which it appears to do because of using agents - then the money automatically becomes 'the proceeds of crime'
This means the 'user' of the money is guilty of money laundering. Harriet Hamster and others.....
Ex-Yard 'Tec, yes very good point, but the more modern version of false accounting is now 'moneylaundering'.
VERY easy to prove,knowing or suspecting the dosh to be the 'proceeds of crime'.
Looking at the Abrahams Timeline from 'the Huntsman' it presents a prima facie case which should be prosecuted. 'Bribery' would do....
As to Money Laundering.
The Labour Government is introducing new regulations, which take effect on 15 December 2007.
They introduce numerous onerous obligations, which require 'enhanced due diligence' where a client is high risk and the regulations obligingly provide as an example of a high risk client, a PEP:
a Politically Exposed Person.
apparently this concept is intended only to cover foreign PEPs!
You couldn't make it up.
When are the next set of opinion polls out, Guido?
What's the point any more? I would say this country has gone to the dogs, but as a dog lover I can't bring myself to - gone to the rats, or the cockroaches perhaps.
Labour Treasurer Jack Dromey appears to be denying all knowledge of these donations amounting to, at least, £650,000 from Abrahams, via intermediaries.
So if the Labour Party treasurer didn't know about all this money coming in, then who did know apart from Watt and Mendelsohn and what bank account was it paid into if it wasn't paid into the official Labour Party account administered by Dromey?
Is Dromey sugesting that senior people in the Labour Party, people very close to Brown perhaps, were running an unofficial "slush fund" extraneous to the official fund over which he had supervision?
Did Brown know about this slush fund?
One thing I haven't figured out yet.... how can we fit Blinky Balls into the frame?
The laws of gravity.
Why hasn't this over-ripe cunt Brown fallen out of his fucking tree yet?
BT
"How can we fit Blinky Balls into the frame?"
Easy-Blinky Bollox other half just happens to be 'Housing Minister',a handy person to know when you need Planning permission
Property is theft,unless your a member of the Lairbour Party.......
TG
I suspect the jew-baiters are Brownite trolls from the NuLabour dirty tricks department, trying to sow red herrings and discredit the site. Desperate stuff really.
First Levy, then Abrahams, now Mendelsohn . . . With friends like Labour Friends of Israel, who needs enemies?
I see a few well-timed arrests by the Met and the Hampshire police have removed Brown's problems from being first item on BBC, ITN, and Sky news tonight. What fortuitous timing for him!
Mind you that ITN report was devastating for Brown. More like that and the polls will be down below 20% for this bunch of Labour shysters.
Where are Labour Friends of Palestine in all this???
Perry Mason said...
Ex-Yard 'Tec, yes very good point, but the more modern version of false accounting is now 'moneylaundering'.
VERY easy to prove,knowing or suspecting the dosh to be the 'proceeds of crime'.
Exactly. False Accounting doesn't need such knowledge or suspicion, hence so very easy to prove and why most asset investigators (money laundering 'tecs of which I was one - still have the Caribbean tan from so many trips to Jamaica) keep that big of legislation in their armoury.
There are growing rumours round Labour party circles tonight that Harriet Harman will be resigning within days.
Sadly I think the rot goes much deeper than that.
Just take a look at this photo on the Tory Party website and then try telling me that Brown isn't a fairy:
http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.story.page&obj_id=140676
A Jewish conspiracy ?
Yeah, right ! Next thing you'll be telling me is that for the ten years prior to Brown we had a Catholic/republican Prime Minister in charge.
Gay Gordon advertises for oral sex
http://www.whiskyfun.com/Materialforlog10/Gordon-Brown.jpg
I used to enjoy reading this blog, but now it's about as exciting as dropping in on a lawyers' and accountants' sherry evening.
Sorry to say this, but these are not really the sort of party antics which get the general public horny.
They said the same about Jack the Ripper
Typical, you bluggers only want to concentrate on the negative corruption stories. Don't I get any credit for being right on top of the teddy bear situation? And I might add that this is a subject-area in which I take a great deal of personal interest.
gordo said he was a conviction politician perhaps he meant a convicted politician.
his body launguage just screams liar the "looking away" as he says the critical facts and the grasping hand thingy clutching at straws maybe.
speaking of ol jacky boy what odds would I get on him being the leader of the opposition next year?
LTCOA6
"I suspect the jew-baiters are Brownite trolls from the NuLabour dirty tricks department, trying to sow red herrings and discredit the site. Desperate stuff really."
Hmmm...could well be,or it could be the frustration of Monday night in Oxford abd the "Battle of the Socalists".
I could never tell the difference between a Socalist and a National Socalist......both believe in the 'Zionist are taking over the world' shit.
Still it dosn't matter if you are a having you ankles broken by a Baathist,a HAMAS member,a KGB officer or a SSer......its still the same rubber batons at the end of the day.
Thats why Gestapo officers made such good Stazi agents...
Harman has broken the 11th Commandment : Don't get caught(lying).
Before Plod arrives with his notebook, Harman will admit
a) that her/her team called Miss Kidd (probably following help from Dromey in setting up the donation via Watt)
b) that she is resigning not because she has done anything wrong but to bring this matter to a conclusion and thereby allow Brown and the Govt get on with the job of helping people, stable economy, record employment, lowest interest rates etc.
She has lied to Brown and he has rumbled her. She will go.
BBC bury "recruitment drive" amid massive cut-backs - when yesterday
14 New exec producers endless editors more "heads of" .. posts were created ....
To monitor Sky News and anticipate National Holidays in the New year so Botney doesn't ever turn up with a film crew in New York on thanksgiving day ...
8:02PM
Well said Mr Brown.
Guido's obsessional desire to get a Phd in Scatology has apparently now caused him to get his head stuck firmly up your arse, Prime Minister.
He is negligently ignoring stories of world significance.
There are peace talks currently in progress between the Israelis and Palestinians - and these negotiations are reportedly so critical that their failure would lead to bitter warfare affecting the entire Middle Eastern region.
And who's hosting these delicate discussions? Thank god we've got our best man on the job - an internationally renowned diplomat, second-to-none as an advocate and true promoter of everlasting tranquillity on earth. Who better than President George W Bush?
Mr and Mrs Harman-Dromey, watch your backs.
An increasingly deluded Gordon and the Tufty Club seem to think they can get themselves out of this shit by stitching you two up.
It's becoming obvious that Harry Redknapp's arrest this afternoon was just some publicity stunt to get Brown's troubles off the headlines.
If I was Harry's solicitor I would sue.
This is getting elaborate.
8:02
It's no accident that Gordy hasn't had an invite to these momentous discussions - he's not important enough.
But don't worry, he'll be getting his orders any day now, and then he can pretend he's a world-class statesman bestriding the globe.
In reality he's a grubby wannabe who's very afraid that someone will take away what few toys he has.
Guido,
Sorry, but I don't see what all the fuss is about:
Harriet Harman says ‘I’m sure Gordon will stand by me’
Recusant said...
Cyclops
Ah, it's the Jews is it?
Cyclops - yes it fucking well is, as I have proven, their Zionist pawprints are all over all the scum they like to deal in and pervert...both in the UK and the USA
I am minded to publish a fucking LIST, a long fucking LIST of these treasonous bastards...
Oh dear,
Why 'Oh dear'????
Do you have an agenda perchance?
You are the treasonous arsehole that attempted to shoot down the bulk of truth I made at the start of this thread. Why the first post on this thread, imine, was wiped, only Guido will know.
This is the first time I have ever been censored here by Guido or agents.
Stanislav will be turning in his oeuvre.
we really are out there aren't we?
Not at all. YOU Sayanim have it so sewn up that you cannot take any heat at all and have to resort to bullshit posts like this.
Do you think we are all fucking STUPID?
(I am setting you up by the way - keep coming back and I will name more names amongst the establishment Jewish/Zionist Mafiya)...
I see we are being pontificated to by someone who would like to believe The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is true.
ROTFLMAO is that the best you can do?
When all is fucking lost smear FACTS with a pathetic ruse like anti-semitism and the fucking protocols???
LMAOA!
(Laugh my arse of already)
cyclops
It's clear there are some Jews involved in this donations scandal: Abrahams, Mendelsohn, A N Other?
But the biggest cunt of all is Brown and he's not a fucking Jew is he? Ed Balls isn't a Jew, nor is Alexander (or is he?) Neither are Dromey or Harman. Not sure about Watt.
So yes, there are 2 or 3 Jews but the biggest bastards in all of this are those Scottish faggots Brown and Alexander and that slimy cunt Balls. All goys already!!
The conspiracy is a Brownite conspiracy not a Jewish one.
Interesting piece on Mr Abrahams on BBC TV Look North, about 3 minutes in
BBC bias - worth reading
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
Beeb site is reporting that Douglas Alexander's sister is now checking her Scots Labour party leadership donations!! She apparently received a number of <£1000 donations of various origins!
How queer!
8:43pm
Yes, let's get some perspective. Totally off-topic, but Labour sleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze is boring the pants off me.
Now here's a man who grasps the relativity of world events:
Labour's Lord Puttnam, who headed the committee examining the proposals, said that preventing global warming was a moral imperative.
He told peers: "This compares to the abolition of slavery 200 years ago. Do we have a responsibility to our fellow human beings and am I my brother's keeper?"
Such a perfect analogy.
The sun's presently having a hot flush and therefore responsible for global warming; historically, the sun's strength has caused some humans to develop a protectively pigmented black skin - the sun, therefore, also bears ultimate responsibility for the entire North Atlantic Slave Trade.
Really.
The abolition of slavery did not end the North Atlantic Slave Trade - this was brought about through black resistance (ie. justified violent uprisings against the oppression of white slave-masters), and the invention of labour-saving farm-machinery; the introduction of environmentally friendly policies will have a zero effect on global warming, since it's not us but the sun wot done it.
The like the abolition of slavery, the Kyoto Treaty is a bitter pill for the rich western nations to swallow - because, by outlawing the plunder of third-world resources, it makes it more difficult for whites to exploit wogs.
No matter how loudly our Kanutian politicians issue their green legislative proclamations and command it to cool, the sun will continue to get hotter until it decides not to; the abolition of slavery has to this day not released the world's black people from slavery.
Sadly, we have here an example of a very confused gentleman - he believes that his ancestors successfully resolved a problem for which they were responsible, and he furthermore believes that he and his fellow politicians can resolve a present-day problem for which they are not the responsible. He is mistaken on both counts. Is his guilty soul seeking redemption, perhaps?
I know you're all having a lot of fun with this, and it is mind blowing that anyone in Labour thought about the PR consequenses here, but this donor guy was a Labour supporter all his life.
You can hardly call it corruption.
cyclops
Brown was pictured on the news at 10 attending a friends of Israel meeting
ahaahahha
So yes, there are 2 or 3 Jews but the biggest bastards in all of this are those Scottish faggots Brown and Alexander and that slimy cunt Balls. All goys already!!
The conspiracy is a Brownite conspiracy not a Jewish one.
Too right. The Brownites take millions from the Jews, then the Jews follow Brownite orders. Same with Bliar: Bliar took the cash from Levy, Levy followed Bliar's orders. It's that well-known philanthropy of theirs.
The latest on the donations scandal: tomorrow's Telegraph is claiming that Abrahams himself possibly was an intermediary for another donor or donors.
So who was funnelling all this money through Abrahams? The Russian mafia, mossad, a cartel of north-east property developers?
The truth will out!
Meanwhile on Newsnight it was reported that the Blairites within the party are stirring again and briefing against Brown with one serving Minister stating that the Brownite treasurer Dromey is toast.
It's all falling apart for Brown.
"Fears are growing within the (Labour)party that David Abrahams, who hid his identity by using four intermediaries, may himself have been a conduit for another mystery benefactor, after senior Labour figures questioned his personal wealth."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IWVN4RSGJ2ZFTQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/11/28/nbrown2228.xml
Have you read the shit here?
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jackie_ashley/2007/11/down_but_not_out.html
It is an unrecoverable disaster for Brown. everyone knows it. It will get worse if the rumours are true. The danger for the tories is if the Labour part ditch him in favour of a human being. Where is this dirt coming from? Where did the Daily mail get it? And why? I suspect Labour party Blairite fifth columnists.
Why the fuck are we voting Labour?
It gets murkier and murkier.
Brownites spinning to the Telegraph are trying to link this with Blair and his links with the Israelis.....
From tomorrows Telegraph...
'Last year (Abrahams) was pictured shaking hands with the then Israeli ambassador, Zvi Heifetz, who was questioned then cleared over money-laundering allegations. Mr Heifetz was recently appointed as an adviser to Mr Blair in his role as Middle East peace envoy.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IWVN4RSGJ2ZFTQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/11/28/nbrown2228.xml
So did the money come from Israel and is Blair really linked in or is this Brown's mob trying to smear him?
11.17 MFoL
Why the fuck are you in our country?