Dave Attacks Gordon's Borrowed Slogans
Dave touched on something today that (surprisingly) he hasn't used before. Brown's borrowing of an old NF/BNP slogan to blow a dog-whistle to Dagenham voters -
"Take the slogan the Prime Minister wheels out every week – 'British jobs for British workers.' If he could only see how embarrassed Labour MPs are, how they shudder whenever he says those words. Well, I’ve done of a bit of work on this slogan of the Prime Minister’s. First, let’s be clear what they want us to think. The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions has told us that there should be no doubt. It is – and I quote – 'explicitly a British jobs for British people campaign…'... I did a bit more research to find out where he got his slogans from. Here’s one he borrowed off the Nation Here’s one he borrowed off the National Front. Here’s another one he borrowed off the British National Party. Where was his moral compass when he was doing that?"
Knuckle-dragging barrel scraping politics aimed at winning back Dagenham council estate votes for Labour from the BNP. Labour activists are embarrassed by the slogan, Nick Griffin is flattered by it. In reality it is meaningless, favouring Britons for British jobs is illegal. It is just a Deborah Mattinson focus-group tested dog-whistle slogan.
UPDATE : Ben Brogan has just updated his blog with something Guido hadn't noticed, Dave "waved a copy of the BNP's May 2006 newsletter at Gordon Brown during their Commons exchanges earlier" the document was headlined "Keep British jobs for British workers".
UPDATE : Ben Brogan has just updated his blog with something Guido hadn't noticed, Dave "waved a copy of the BNP's May 2006 newsletter at Gordon Brown during their Commons exchanges earlier" the document was headlined "Keep British jobs for British workers".
60 comments:
Piano wire. Now.
this could backfire spectacularly , as Nick Griffin can truthfully now say
"look, we are right. even the PM of this country agrees with us"
it gives legitimacy to the BNP and makes the BNPs stance appear more "reasonable".
Brown is playing an extremely dangerous game.
Surely he meant, British jobs for Scottish workers (judging by the profile of the front bench...)
I can see where you're coming from but I think you are missing the point.
Almost every job created over the last few years have gone to British workers. Therin lies the difficulty. The jobs that nobody wants (highly paid minimum wage jobs)have gone to the EU immigrants and beyond.
So my guess is that this is a bit of a red herring and is yet another Dave 'immigration' story that will probably do the rounds until it dies.
Gary
I worry that Brown will go further and steal the BNP policy for a citizen army like in Switzerland with everyone having automatic weapons at home.
gary.
Just read your own crap governments figures and weep.
Gazza
Quit this Dave Spartism that you suffer from.
Try one of these 'Brown jobs' for yourself and kick that UB40 addiction. Brown and your country needs you.
Yours
Bhownaggree
It was perhaps Cameron's one good moment today. I thought he was weak.
Thats me voting BNP then, gordo says they are ok cos hes swiping their policies and slogans.
Heard that vile harman "woman" on the news god she can talk bollox if it was a sport she would get a gold.
The deluded gary elsby of stoke must live in a parallel Universe. The 'Utopian Britain' governed by the glorious, intelligent, well meaning and selfless politicians he delights in describing bears no relation to the broken down, mongrel infested, debt riddled shithole that the rest of us inhabit.
The creature is delusional - could he really be Gorgon Brun?
Agreed, John (5:36). Whatever side of the party divide we come from, the one thing which I hope we can agree on is that the House of Commons is an infinitely better chamber for debate without filth like Griffin darkening its doors.
I understand that the intention of such terms is precisely to wrest away support from hate groups such as the BNP, but Labour in particular can ill-afford to lend credibility to the arguments and slogans of Griffin and his crew given the level of support Labour enjoys from (amongst others) immigrant communities.
PLEASE READ BELOW.
UTTERLY HILARIOUS....WILL IT GO ANYWHERE ?(DON'T NEED TO ANSWER).
Thursday, June 07, 2007
Chancellor reported to race watchdog over jobs for Brits speech
Following Gordon Brown's speech to the GMB union on 5 June in which he indicated that he wanted a claimed 200,000 new jobs to go to what he called "British workers" civil liberties group Liberty and Law has reported him to the Commission for Racial Equality [CRE].
It has asked the CRE to make a statement explaining that any job discrimination based on nationality is against the Race Relations Act and to investigate the policy of the government to ensure that its employment policy is not designed to privilege British job seekers over any other people entitled to seek work in this country.
It has also asked the CRE to obtain a statement from Mr Brown clearly indicating that nothing he has said was intended to suggest that British workers were to be given any priority whatsoever in obtaining employment over foreigners seeking the same work.
Headlines in the media showed clearly Mr Brown's message.
British workers for British jobs, Daily Telegraph
Brown pledges ‘British workers for British jobs’ Daily Mail
Get British jobless doing British jobs Daily Mirror
Brown to put British workers first in jobs queue The Herald
Brown promises Britons first refusal on jobs The Independent
Colin Brown of the Independent explained: “Gordon Brown promised his union backers for the leadership of the Labour Party that as Prime Minister he will ensure British people get first refusal of jobs in Britain.”
Oonagh Blackman of the Daily Mirror summarised his position as:"Gordon Brown yesterday pledged to give jobs to British workers ahead of migrants.”
These headlines were eerily similar to a British National Party campaign posted by its South West Correspondent a few days earlier on 26 May.
"A new leaflet sized poster is starting to “mysteriously” appear on works notice boards in a growing number of Somerset factories - particularly those increasingly employing migrant labour in preference to local people. The posters have the basic design as shown in the example below - but are “customised” by the addition of Party contact details and a strap line depending upon location - such as “British jobs for British workers at Bloggs Foods".
Mr Brown's policy would seem to be similar to that of the BNP. He has given the clear impression that employers can and should discriminate in recruitment between British people and people who are not British but have come to Britain to work and live either permanently or temporarily.
Liberty and Law director Gerald Hartup stated "He must be aware that non- British citizens from the European union have an absolute right to live and work in this country without being subject to discrimination by employers. His speech appears to be xenophobic and gives reason for foreigners to fear for their safety in this country as well as for their employment rights, apparently facing a government under his leadership that will attempt to discriminate against them. The BNP website does not yet contain an article trumpeting the fact that the government is now belatedly following its lead. No doubt it will. Mr Brown is doing its job for it."
What.s wrong with automatic weapons at home?
McBroon and Nu-Liebour would never let us keep automatic weapons at home due to the sure and certain knowledge that they and their assorted neophytes would be up against a wall in slightly under 15 minutes.
45govt: having read several of your more vivid posts, I can think of a great many things which are wrong with leaving automatic weapons anywhere near you . . .
transfattyacid suggests
"...a citizen army like in Switzerland with everyone having automatic weapons at home."
We'd be lucky, under Brown's defence budget, to have a Swiss Army Knife in every home.
racism is good.
(when gordon does it).
Gary.
C4 show a very tremulous shaking of Brown's hand. He doesn't seem to be very relaxed. I wonder what the great helmsman's blood pressure is like.
I'm almost tempted to open a book on when Brown steps down on health grounds.
Perhaps there's a clever subliminal message in dog whistle - and he really intends it to be read as a spoonerism.
Grubby little public noseborer.
In stealing anti-immigrant slogans from the BNP, Brown is gifting votes to them as most voters now realise he is all spin and bullshit whereas the BNP really mean it.
He is raising expectations that he has no intention of fulfilling. He is playing with fire for what he sees as short-term advantage.
Yet another example of his dishonesty, hypocrisy, and total incompetence.
With 'British jobs for British workers', teatime with Maggie T, Trident and imitating Tory policies can any posters who are members of the Labour party in Scotland tell me why they are still members?
Bringing BNP voters back into mainstream parties would be a good thing - if it wasn't that it's ok for Labour to do it, but Tories can't even get as far right as the UKIP vote, according Labour's PC Compass, let alone the BNP vote.
MR Anonymous at 6.27.
Whatever side of the party divide we come from.... I hope we can agree .. . Commons is an infinitely better chamber for debate without filth like Griffin darkening its doors.
What party divide, pray, is this ? And whaddayacall the filth that's already enthroned there ?
I think, like my Highlands neighbour, Dr Bob Dylan say, you is in wrong place, my friend, and better fuck off. Talk like bank clerk from 19th century. Since you're here though, what kind of racist filth takes a country to war on a pack of lies, beats prisoners to death and admits evidence obtained by torture, against its own citizens ? What kind of a filthy monster politician do you have to be to out-Hoon the cunt who said : One day Iraqi mothers will thank me for these cluster bombs killing their infants. Don't believe simple Polish plumber. Look it up in Hansard. If you know what Hansard is. And if you can fucking read. Fucking ungrateful slags these Iraqi bitches, eh ? Gang-raping by Uncle Sam's mommas boy pychokillers is too good for them. And for their liberation they have "both sides of the party divide" to thank.
And suppose Mr Griffin gets,say, a quarter of the votes in his constituency and is elected to this great chamber of debate (hasn't been that for a long time, sweetie, few of them can do thinking let alone debating) why is he any the less legitimately elected than all the other cunts snuffling in the trough ? He went to Cambridge, didn't he, its either Westminster or the BBC.
I think that in your hopes, Mr Anonymous, as in your sex life, you are bound to be disappointed. Only a nincompoop would subscribe to your implication that Jack Straw is in any way the moral superior to Nick Griffin. They are both a pair of horrible bastards; only difference is the revolting Straw already has the blood of millions on his hands and Griffin is still champing at the bit.
Jack Straw isn't racist, of course he's not always embarrassingly social climbing, strutting about, overdressed, all airs and graces like Cardinal Richelieu, sampling the ladies of NewLabour. No, he talks to the wogs in his constituency every once in a while, as he always reminds Lord Andrew Neill of the BBC. And how cool is that? Swinging sixties? Jack invented them, without ever touching any filthy drugs. Him and Mick and Keith and John and Paul.
Pipsqueaking about the BNP, Mr Anonymous does Straw's work for him. The greatest danger we face is from a handful of nutters led by an Oxbridge nancyboy (I refer here, of course, to the BNP ) and not from the putrid corpse of the British body politic dancing over our liberties, stealing our money and shitting in our faces. Whatever we do we must focus on the BNP; they, after all, stole the pensions, dismantled manufacturing, presided over, indeed encouraged the beggarly indebtedness of so many of the population, buggered the health and education services, started all the recent wars and sold the peerages. Fuck me, we don't want any more of them in power, do we?
i like interview when lab mp was asked she thought gordon had meant by british jobs for british workers . she said she didnt know and that she would like further explanation.
its not just that lab have been voting bnp, its that gordon has created an ecnomic solution via a social danger.
its possibly the biggest chicken to come home to roost , hes played EU friends and messed up the country , look at italy they were near the lynching mob for the murder of an admirals wife.
some northern towns are near segrigated and its all been swept under the carpet. now that its not racialist to talk about immigration all sorts of people say they are pissed off with neigbourhoods being run in an alien way to our traditions.
gordon might be rubbing his hands now at his little bonfire and hoping the tories self combust , but i reckon history will blame nu labour well and truly for it .
still not impressed with gordon , blears nearly blew up on interview . best bit of day was jon sopel asking patronizing twat kieth vaz if he thought immigration was a problem , vaz started spluttering dangerous language etc etc .
well vaz is it or isnt it a simple answer to a simple question yes or no.
problem is next election vaz will be back in as his votes solid , but he wastes my tax money big time for me .
Surprised that Brogan noticed anything at all, his head is so far up GGs rectum these days. (Unless Gary from Stoke is ghost writing his blog)
Brown got battered again by Cameron today and this was supposed to be the day he fought back.
Our prime minister is supposed to be a student of football.
He'll have noticed that the No 2 took over at Bolton and was sacked after a few weeks of bad results.
The same thing happened this week to the Wigan manager, who was No 2 until recently.
Can you see the pattern here?
Brown is losing week in, week out.
And now the poor bastard seems to be developing Parkinson's.
How long before the Party Chairman gives him the dreaded vote of confidence.
I'd think Brown and his cronies should be more concerned about him being mauled by Vince Cable of all people,Gordo looked close to tears over what was in reality a bit of fairly harmless banter.I always voted Labour until the grinning assassin made that impossible,really couldn't bring myself to vote for Brown,very,very quickly shown that he just can't hack it.
If Hague ever gets let loose on Gordo at PMQs we'll see some serious shaking from the "Fisting Clunker"
Wonderful Newsnight (still on).
It's like a Tory Party political Broadcast.
Labour have been roasted over Brown's performance at the Queen's Speech, over Brown's spin re local newspapers duped into printing prime Ministerial praise about local schools (which didn't materialise).
And the more criticism ofLabour's handling of the Northern Rock disaster.
The icing on the cake was the Labour spokesman - James Purnell.
He was dreadful. May he be invited back soon.
Brown will have a nervous breakdown before Christmas. The job is too much for him.
WHY dont politicians have health checks before being appointed to office? I mean this prat has his shaking finger on the atom bomb!!
Oh dear. It's reported that Brown was behaving rather oddly at tonight's opening of St Pancras. Mumbling to himself, then, at one stage, exclaiming like a tourettes sufferer, stumbling, acting confused, visibly shaking and looking tearful.
Is he going to be carried out of Downing Street by the men in white coats as forecast by that senior No 10 adviser?
"British jobs for British workers" sounds stirring and upbeat but probably refers to obliging those claiming job-seekers' allowance to take up the unskilled, minimum wage service jobs which are currently done by non-Brits from outside the EU.
Brown maybe going GaGa but it's the damage him and his loonies can do to this country that worries me,we still have at least 2years of this lot.
"I worry that Brown will go further and steal the BNP policy for a citizen army like in Switzerland with everyone having automatic weapons at home.
5:50 PM, November 06, 2007"
i would never happen. too much risk of an armed revolution.
an armed citizenry is the last defence against tyranny - which is why nu labour were so eager to ban handguns to such an extent that our olympic shooting team has to train overseas.
by the way guido - just watching the re-run of PMQs on sky news - Cameron waved both a National Front leaflet AND a BNP leaflet.
i will say to any trolls waking up to posts , we asked you nicely to give us the vote on the EU treaty, we asked you fairly , we then gave you a taster of how we felt on this robbery of our rights.
we know how youved messed up the country to get the EU socialist bollocks through.
We know how to run a country well , now whilst i still dearly want payback for what youve done and the sheer dis respect you have shown for my for fathers and what sort of britain they fought for.
i dont care if they bury you in your own crap that youve pushed on us , i dont care how you go from goverment now , your feeling it because youve lied . so i suggest you get in your car , go to buckingham palace and call that election. holding the office of prime minister at least asks that you respect the office.
we dont want to be a plebacite of the EU not now and not while i me alive.
thanks
red despot spotter
Gary Elsby
What does it take for you types to gain a moral backbone?
At what point do you say enough is enough?
I am possibly among the most patriotic members of this nation, However even if Thatcher had rapped herself in the flag like Gordon my stomach and vote would have turned.
Its one thing when at war but this type of National Socialist clap trap is simply unacceptable under any other circumstances.
Still dont feel left out. Because the rest of your parliamentary party have shown what a 'power at the cost of all and every principle' bunch of sick bastards they are as well.
Nationalism is not called 'the last resort of a tyrant' for nothing.
We all know exactly what you would be saying if a Tory PM has gone even half as far as GB has done already.
You and the BBC would have organized a protest campaign by now and frightened half our immigrants to death with constant hyperbolic rantings all over the MSM.
You dont care about people and you and your precious party never have.
All you care about is your BBC and university brainwashing induced deeply evil socialist ideology.
Thats why the Nationalist form of it does not phase you for one second. You have indeed lost your free mind and your self respect a long time ago.
was amazed to see Brown shaking and trembling in the commons today as was commented on Newsnight. What a spectacle! A Prime Minister actually falling apart at the seams in front of the nation.
Does brown prepare for PMQs cos it looks like he aint got a clue and that shaking hand was it a dig at cameron ? or is he just losing the plot?.
Methinks the dose is wrong on his meds.
The brownies must be getting worried that they picked a freak .
What a lot of well reasoned arguments we have here. Clearly Brown means something quite different by "British" than Griffin. And clearly as a non-criminal Brown does not support the exclusive BJ4BP that Griffin does.
The phrase horrified me but we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Reclaiming the flag off the BNP and NF is a sensible endeavour. Whether this is the right way to do it is another question.
On the overall exchanges I thought that DC made a grave mistake replacing his "Memory Man" act with his "Stand Up" act and that he looked, and rightly, very uncomfortable indeed when Brown was laying into his voting record and his IHT plans to help 3000 families with £1 Billion and so on.
DC may have landed a few jabs and hooks but I think Gordon has the big Haymaker at his disposal whenever he may choose to use it.
Cable was all awe-ry. One of the funniest bits of DC's "routine" was when he talked about the Lib Dems and Teather getting marmalised come the next election.
I would agree 100% that Purnell was piss poor. But Jezzer was not in control of that discussion and it was not "on the money".
What's worse? A run on a very small mortgage bank whose money grubbing risk taking and excess profit taking had got them into a mess. Or Black Wednesday.
The former will have cost the nation nothing when it is worked through. The latter billions.
Deep inside every red blooded scotsman is a desire to payback the english for their ruthless oppression, where better than from the inside!
"What's worse? A run on a very small mortgage bank whose money grubbing risk taking and excess profit taking had got them into a mess. Or Black Wednesday."
The first, because it was totally unnecessary to bail out the NR, sets a dangerous precendent and has already cost us far more than Black Wednesday (which arguably did us a big favour anyway).
chris paul is not only a deranged Brown-worshipping fuckwit but it seems he wants the rest of us to join him in his fuckwittery too.
Fact is, Chris old son, Brown is showing himself up as weak, incompetent, dishonest, and totally out of his depth. There are also growing signs that he is mentally ill and heading for a breakdown on the job.
As for the UK economy, drowning in debt, propped up by a rapidly failing housing market, and a grossly overvalued currency; the writing's already on the wall and 2008 is going to be a disastrous year for many largely thanks to Brown's profligacy, dishonesty, incompetence, and short-termism.
Chris - "What's worse? A run on a very small mortgage bank whose money grubbing risk taking and excess profit taking had got them into a mess. Or Black Wednesday."
How about announcing the intention to sell half of the UK's gold reserves so depressing the price obtainable for the sale and then selling at this reduced price? The gold price has more than doubled since that decision, a decision that lost the country about £3.5 billion at today's exchange rate. How about then using a third of the sale proceeds to buy Euros which then plummeted in value?
Not for nothing is that point in the gold price where Gordon "economic genius" Brown sold half of the UK's gold reserves, called "Brown's Bottom".
Chris Paul defends the indefensible by arguing in true Clinton fashion that it depends what the meaning of 'British' is.
Pathetic.
And Northern Rock is not a "small" mortgage bank - it was responsible for one quarter of mortgage lending in the first half of this year.
And why does Chris think that Black Wednesday is a Tory embarassemnt? The current Tory front bench has no intention of seeking to manipulate the market price of sterling. But plenty of Labour ministers would love to do just that, and make the mistake permanent by joining the Euro.
"A run on a very small mortgage bank"
They were the country's biggest mortgage lender, handling about 20% of mortgage business. If you don't know what the fuck you are talking about please keep your opinions to yourself.
Not reported on the BBC? Couldn't believe my eyes today!!! Anne Widdecombe's column in the Express:Soldiers being asked for £1000 to cover rocketing(!) insurance premiums.THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE FECKING OUTRAGE!!! This Government is cynical by nature but that's like punching a fecking baby!!! IT IS OUTRAGEOUS!
To the first class cunt who used my name at 7:12. under the term 'racist'.
You don't know me but I know you, not personally you understand, just you.
so kindly fuck off back to CCHQ and go fuck yourself you twat.
Gary
From a neutral point of view, I am amazed and astonished at how anyone can defend Gordon Brown these past few weeks. Gary, Peter et al. Do you seriously have your heads so far up Gordon Brown's Bottom that his shit has clouded your vision?
Yes a case of re-writing history?It turns out that Black Wednesday cost the country nearer 3 billion rather than the 10 billion reported at the time!Nice round number,made for a better story/more damaging to the Conservatives.Brown's pension grab cost pensioners 5 billion PER YEAR!and his Gold debacle cost us 3.5 billion.BOTH worse than Black Wednesday!!
The NR debacle has already cost £30bn and the only real offer to buy it out was from Lloyds TSB who demanded a £30bn loan from the BoE to do it! That £30bn comes out of the pockets of each and every one of the 20million households in this country, as Robert Peston pointed out - £1500 each.
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If Nick Griffin had said this he would be in court for inciting racial hatred, and rightly so.
Brown is coming apart at the seams and Hitch finds it most amusing.
When I see that huge jug eared head on television I dont feel the same visceral hatred I felt for Blair, just a feeling of contempt for a very small man who has done a great deal of damage.
I too heard harriet hampster last night on PM. Her command of English was superb. Phrase after phrase spouted forth. But no sentences, and nothing said meant anything intelligible. She obviously couldn't answer the questions dear ole eddy was massaging her with, but had been taught to 'just say something, anything at all as long as it is unquotable and it fills in the time allocated for the interview'.
She even slipped into last week's message....she kept going on about the English regions....whatever they are. I suppose they think if they mention them enough gradually we will believe thay exist.
They don't. England is not and never will be a region. Scotland is a small country on our northern border.
I sorted it out once before and will again if necessary.
Nick Griffin is a bit of a porker, isn't he. Look at those jowls!
What's the link between Nick Griffin and Tony Martin, the guy who shoots burglars in the back?
There is a link you know.
Discuss
Listen cunt, there is only one Gary Elsby in this world and he is killing Tories faster than clap did in the 19th Century.
So kindly fuck off and die.
Guido knows the truth about me but refuses to blog it up. It's a fucking shocker, granted, but it is the truth.
Gary
there is only one Gary Elsby in this world
Spooky! Gary's namesake is a copper in GB's constituency. Is Kirkcaldy a different world?
gordon is my hero.
gordon and nick say bj4bw.
nick is a racist.
..and gordon is my hero.
Gary.
"Listen cunt, there is only one Gary Elsby in this world and he is killing Tories faster than clap did in the 19th Century."
But when we're all dead where will your benefits come from?
After much thought and careful consideration I have come to the following conclusion, that the right honourable twat gary elsby is a big brown stain on the underpants of mankind.
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