Yvette's Spinners Do Non-Denial Over Fakery
Yesterday's story about another bit of "faking it" on the No. 10 website webchat resulted in a Guido first, an instant rebuttal in the comments from the Press Office of the Department for Communities and Local Government
Guido read it over and realised that it was a non-denial. Read it again. Technically Karen Doran doesn't work for the government - she works for a goverment financed quango run out of what was formerly the Office of the Deputy PM, now known as the Department for Communities and Local Government. She is technically not on the government payroll, but is paid by the government.
Guido had a weird conversation with the press office where they accused him of "acting like Pravda". Karen Doran asked Yvette Cooper, who is effectively her sponsoring minister, a patsy question under the guise of "public engagement".
Why? The press office haven't got back to me on that yet...
Your story about the Number 10 webchat is incorrect. The individual you name does not work for the Government. This was a public webchat which was advertised on the websites of Number 10 and the Department for Communities and Local Government. The Government did not ask any specific individuals to take part in the questioning.
Guido read it over and realised that it was a non-denial. Read it again. Technically Karen Doran doesn't work for the government - she works for a goverment financed quango run out of what was formerly the Office of the Deputy PM, now known as the Department for Communities and Local Government. She is technically not on the government payroll, but is paid by the government.Guido had a weird conversation with the press office where they accused him of "acting like Pravda". Karen Doran asked Yvette Cooper, who is effectively her sponsoring minister, a patsy question under the guise of "public engagement".
Why? The press office haven't got back to me on that yet...
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The old joke about Pravda ('Truth') and Izvestia ('News') was ...
There's no truth in News and there's no news in Truth.
A very appropriate observation about life under New Labour.
Guido had a weird conversation with the press office where they accused him of "acting like Pravda".
Acting like the BBC Guido? Surely not
I realise this will come across as overly sycophantic, but still...
they accused you of acting like Pravda?
to quote the inimitable Mr Tucker, "we are through the looking glass now..."
Go for the vucking jugular on this - how bloody dare James 'wanker' Purnell have a go at the media for 'fakery' when this sort of thing is going on within 'Government'..
Its all a bit like "Citizens' Juries" - the Brownite name for "Focus Groups"
Ask the people but only if they won't ask difficult questions or come up with the "wrong" answers
Karen Doran is an anagram of..
Dank On Rear...
Because she had to clean herself up after shitting herself..?
Poor Yvette is only following her boss's lead. The Government are only interested in talking to people who agree with them. Three Church of England bishops have just published a letter written to Brown over three months ago, because he failed to reply.
Full story here.
Any amount of pestilence you visit on Yvette Cooper will not be enough, and however soon the ruination of her career will not be quick enough for her monumental incompetence over the Home '[lack of Information' Packs..
Am about to sell my house, after 10 gut-wrenching years of re-building projects. Can't go ahead until I sign a form and officially trigger the HIP request. Hard, as the post is on strike.
Then the lovely sloane from Douglas and Gordon tells me 'HIPS - we haven't had a single buyer request to view one'.
Oh, and Gay Gordo wants £20k plus stamp duty if I buy a tiny house that - in SW London at least - will cost £500+
And this ladyboy is getting her mortgage paid by the state - and it's probably a repayment mortgage.
And you wonder why this lot are on the verge of being booted out?
don't bother with a HIP - in the unlikely event of them pursuing you for non-payment the fine is neglegible.
They also "did not ask any specific individuals to take part".
That's not to say they didn't ask a quango to put someone up...
Weasel words are the sign of the last days of an administration. When people who are supposed to be servants of the public are now issuing weak reponses instead of condemning sly moves, it's sorry stuff.
Just look at Iain Dale's piece about Gordon Brown faking a hospital clinic opening ceremony for a photo shoot. Turns out the ceremony happened three months ago, keys were symbolically handed over back then. But the PM had to dress up his visit, it wasn't enough to have a few photos with the nurses.
Now who's acting like Pravda!
Off topic I notice Iain Dale is reporting a 3 point Tory lead in tomorrow's Gruaniad. So no election
*claps*
Well done Guido!
Gordons stunt in Iraq is rapidly turning into a 'Tipping Point'.
yeah, and presumably they asked the Department for Communities and Local Government to get someone to post a question, which gets round the 'specific individual' bullshit
Tactic of someone who's already lost the argument?
Pedantically nitpic the minutae of the thing they can't argue about.
Doesn't work for the government indeed. Hahahaha
I don't suppose Cooper has heard the saying "when you're in a hole,stop digging".
this homes mortgage payment thing really stinks , if they live away from home they should live in standard uk council house , somewhere like hounslow and commute in via king newts transport system.
it would remind them everyday what sort of mess they have to clean up .
thanks
red despot spotter
Il bet them finger nails are taking a beating today all his plans are falling apart, the public and the media have rumbled him.Meet the new leader worse than the old leader.
BREAKING NEWS......
ICM poll in Friday's Guardian just out: Labour lead slashed to just 1%. That's right 1%!!
Brown bottles it, no election, Gordon too frit!! Retires to his bunker to howls of derision, goes completely gaga, call for the men in white coats. Hubris rewarded.
Labour lead slashed to one point
Patrick Wintour and Julian Glover
Thursday October 4, 2007
Guardian Unlimited
The scale of the election gamble confronting Gordon Brown is revealed tonight in a Guardian ICM poll showing the Labour lead has been slashed to one point, a drop of seven points since the Guardian polled at the start of the conference season......
PMQ's next Wednesday may be painful to watch for Brown supporters and those of us of a more sensitive disposition as he is taunted mercilessly for "bottling it".
Will he crack up live on TV and have to be carried out of Parliament frothing at the mouth?
I won't be watching. I can't stand to watch a grown man cry.
@ bergen.
I think the missing skill is the failure to understand what a hole is. How on earth can she recognise one if she doesn't know what they look like?
Yokel, she knows what an arsehole is. She married one, after all.
The Guardian/ICM poll has now been revised: The Tories and Labour are now NECK AND NECK on 38 points each.
Brown has bottled an election and things will only get worse for him in the years ahead as the economy deteriorates.
The last thing we need is a lame duck PM.
Government of all the talents, don't make me laugh.
NuLab have created a class of parasites, feasting on the wealth and incomes of others.
How on earth does this make them less sleezy than the Tories? I think that some of the nuLab trolls need to examine their moral compass if they think that Cooper and Purnell's actics are acceptable.
MING THE MERCILESS ON QUESTION TIME TONIGHT
Guido, I have seen thy shaky signature after they racked thee last time thou pulled the nose of this heretick government with a shitload of blowie.
Be careful man that thou canst type in future, we may have need of thee.
And the best Labour could put up for Question Time is the awful, inept Ruth Kelly, who even managed to take the rap for the even more awful and inept Cooper over HIPs.
I said before and I say again Brown is looking awfully unwell. There was a reason he never made PM till now - I am guessing he has a stress problem..
Never mind the bollocks,
The Hitch is back up at:
returnofthehitch.blogspot.com
As if the destruction of the ludicrous Bob Ainsworth on Newsnight wasn't bad enough, now the appalling Ruth Kelly has made a total fool of herself on Question Time.
This is the consequence of Brown only picking his lackeys for Cabinet posts. Without exception they are all exceedingly talentless and unfit for purpose.
Is this what Brown spent years plotting to get rid of Tony Blair for? Without Blair Brown is hopeless. He has only been in 100 days and already the public can see that he is an incompetent bungler.
I despair.
angry blairite
Don't despair.
I am prepared to lend you a revolver and a single bullet to do with whatever you feel is best.
If Tone or Gordo were in the room with you, I would give you three bullets to do what we all know would be for the best.
P.S. I can stretch to six if Cherie is around. Best to use three shells on the old witch...
Would 3 be enough? Wouldn't they have to be made of silver or something?
Ruth Kelly didn't need her Opus Dei thigh ring tonight, she got more than enough punishment from everyone else in the studio.
Is she a man by the way?
New Labour's disenchantment with Gordon is growing fast with Jack Straw being touted as a possible replacement on some Labour blogs.
I wouldn't even trust silver bullets for that fat witch. Bring a mini-gun and lets see some chopped liver.
Our perfect in every way leader's stress problem is that he knows his counterpart could be the next selected Prime Minister of the UK.
He can not even imagine any form of public humiliation. He is smart enough to know he will finally lose what slight grip he has on his rapidly failing sanity, if he does.
Which is why his type, just like his mentors Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin, keep their ritual humiliations strictly private.
Eva Brown pissing on the murderous sexually perverted Masonic Maniacs face while Adolf franticly jerked himself off.
Stalin stuck to daily bloody murder of anyone he decided capable of humiliating him in public. Animal sex rape and necrophilia in private.
For our more post modern post uniform completely perfect Fascist dictator like our own. Pissing or worse in ones nappy, is just a more introverted but similar way, despotic devil worshiping nut cases try but always fail to sort out their own massively over inflated egos.
Lets just hope this ones not taking us down with him. Bad news is, these types usually end up trying.
couldnt watch bestquestion time for too long, hislop was on stonking form , kelly seemed to take the large ammount of flack but nu labour are turning into the cheuchescaus of more interest was paxo on newsnight , health secretary was all over the show , re new lab health report (another parlimentary agreement broken on release before state opening), andrew lansley whilst trained as doctor , did alright but the labour minister was shit.
i suppose you cant really expect doctors to be david davis types , but it seems 2 years ago nu labour scrapped weekend doctors and now think its a good idea to have them back.
so for gordos trolls input this, like i said , the deception of the public is a very serious matter , in your rush for this so called peoples britain, you have systematically dismantled some of the basic understandings of how our once very good country worked , and worked pretty well at that, you have replaced the individual moral tennants , with a meaningless state freak media controlled mess, that is putting guns into the hands of children, drugs into the hands children , and the meaning of the family unit into a tax calculation.
call the election , or your party gets the biggest broadside in parlimentary history that will not only show , just how much youve corrupted our society , but just how much your party has done , the public will not see it as nasty event , more one of national good and necessity.
the nu lab vultures are the least of your worries , its the homeowners of the last few years , the parents whose children are messed up, and the viewers who have been spoon fed nu lab gruel , whilst you told them it was health suppliment.
thanks
red despot spotter
Neck and Neck ses "The last thing we need is a lame duck PM"
But we have on already. Lame duck from the moment he took office, as he is utterly unfit to hold it. At least Bliar was able to dissemble that he was - Brown is hopeless and no wonder he shuns the public such a ghastly sight he is.
Be gone, and fuck off back to Scotland. Fucking Son of the Fucking Manse.
The only way the snot-gobbler could possibly win an election is to announce a referendum on Europe next week.
Is he desperate enough to cling to power to do so?
You heard it here first.
I may be just going mental, but am I the only one who thought Ruth Kelly is actually looking like a, welll, a female? What a difference letting the nazi boy short hair grow.
It's not the opinion polls that will give the Snot Gobbler the shits - it is the sheer hostility that met Ruth Homophobe-Kelly on Question Time last night. NuLab are not just crap, they are utterly deceitful and empty, and they have been rumbled.
Red Despot spotter
What's that about replacing individual moral tennants?
BTW when did Andrew Lansley train as a doctor?
yeah ruth kelly did actually look like a female on question time last night, but she still sounds like a teenage boy whos balls have just dropped
oh dear, its another 'good day to bury bad news', moment from those awfully nice people in nulab ,
More spin & lies. So much for the spin that Brown is different.
Just to clear the issue over Ruth Kelly and the voice - he is actually Bernard Bresslaw
maybe she was interested. after all, cooper is notoriously grand and probably doesn't answer her questions very often!
Frankly, if Guido acted like Pravda we'd all be having a helluva lot more fun. It would be all
"Minister of the Environment is Cthulhu Cultist" or "Prime Minister supervises canning of aliens for export" or whatever.
MUCH livelier. We can only hope.
"Stalin stuck to daily bloody murder of anyone he decided capable of humiliating him in public. Animal sex rape and necrophilia in private."
Whilst Uncle Joe was always up for a bit of murder, I believe rape was more Beria's thing.
As for the non-denial denial, after ten years of NuLab, you can spot them from a thousand paces. I long for the day these NuLab mongs drown in liquid shit.
for pet shop boys
red despot spotter would like to appologise for titleing lansley as a doctor , he isnt hes got a BA in politics, paxo said well your a doctor when he was refering to deseri (whose a heart specialist).
my fault , will improve
thanks
red despot spotter
Ruth Kelly isn't a man - she's an Irish pixy who's got lost.
"Ruth Kelly isn't a man - she's an Irish pixy who's got lost."
You'll never see her in the same room as Little Jimmie Krankie. That's all I'm saying.
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