UPDATED : Election Fever - Who Says When
Dateline : 5 October
The Telegraph's Daniel Hannan has been in touch to point out that Peter Riddell first ruled out any prospect of a 2007 poll back in June, "that's what first persuaded me it was likely." He also says Janet Daley has done a similar flip.
Daniel himself has been saying for five months that there'll be an election this year which he reckons means almost certainly there won't be "as I'm the world's worst forecaster".
Dateline : 4 October
Over the last week or so Guido has been tracking the pundits predictions and will be updating this list (do add pundits names and predictions in the comments):
Daniel himself has been saying for five months that there'll be an election this year which he reckons means almost certainly there won't be "as I'm the world's worst forecaster".
Dateline : 4 October
Over the last week or so Guido has been tracking the pundits predictions and will be updating this list (do add pundits names and predictions in the comments):
- Peter Riddell - "it will almost certainly be on November 1 or 8."*
- Tim Montgomerie - is betting on an autumn election
- Iain Dale - thought Gordon might call it during Tory conference
- Nick Robinson tells us the preparations for an immediate election are real
- Team Cameron - we don't know but "we are on battle stations".
- Peter Riddell also ruled out a 2007 election last June.
- Adam Boulton - told Guido he didn't think this autumn, but you never know.
- Mike Smithson - thinks Gordon will play it extra long, not before 2009.
- Fraser Nelson - can't see why Gordon would want to shorten his reign.
- Benedict Brogan - not now, according to his Brownite sources.
- Steve Richards suspects Dave will be able to claim next week that he stopped the mighty Mr Brown from calling a November election.
- Michael White suspects not soon.
- Dizzy Thinks not now.
- Janet Daley wrote in July "I will stake my commentator's credibility on the prediction that he will not do so, because I believe that his sense of his own political seriousness would make it inconceivable that he would cut and run before he has established his new dispensation and stamped his own objectives on government."
Where is Guido sticking his neck? The Brownies are a secretive cabal yet they have signalled a supposed snap election intention. Why would they signal their true intentions to the enemy? Gordon will stretch out his term as long as he can...
Guido has been laying "before Dec 2007" on Betfair if you think Guido is wrong. It has been known...
*Peter Riddell has been been in touch to say he has been quoted out of context and he hasn't a clue when the election is going to be.
Guido has been laying "before Dec 2007" on Betfair if you think Guido is wrong. It has been known...
*Peter Riddell has been been in touch to say he has been quoted out of context and he hasn't a clue when the election is going to be.
150 comments:
The reality is that the election from this position cant really be lost.
If he wants to be Greedy Gordon, he could go now and probably get a working majority.
If he wants a 'legacy', the smarter move would be to bide his time...unless he knows something about 2008 that we dont?
My source who attended at Labour Conf say it was 80% chance of being this autumn. I think he will go this autumn still.
A fine investment Guido.
Brown would try to extend the electoral schedule before he would risk giving away his hard won power.
Never underestimate the cowardice of a coward.
My bet is May 2015.
now that ime upto my neck in the sex slave business , i just dont know why everyone suddenly thinks were crap, ime really fed up conservatives making out we have ruined the country , look at our record.
we have made sex with young foreign ladies far cheaper than under a tory goverment.
weve made guns more avaiable to the poor
and our drugs policy has stimulated huge ammounts of spending on the NHS and prison service.
you tory lot should just shut up , ive asked gordo when he wants an election but hes on the bog at the moment , actually hes been on it all week , says the voices in his head wont stop and he feels a bit beaten up.
but when the shits have cleared up , says hes got an election winning manefesto and is going to try and help put britain back on the road to the EU , was looking forward to parliment but now worried about what you sneaky tories are up to , he will also not be visiting the armed forces for any more tank signing.
if he does become mentally unstable or sponsors drop him or we poison his haggis for him, might try someone else , but if were in too much financial shit will call an election . my monies on spring and gamble ecnomic situation will improve, hasnt really thought through yet how he will have to avoid the public who think hes crap.party concerned about contaminated brand long term problems.
thanks jackie smith
I stuck my neck out with a "Brown's Bottled It" post a day or so ago - http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/archives/004628.html - so put me down for him hanging on.
I'd bet on November 2007, because Brown doesn't want to face any more weekly PMQs before Voting Day.
I don't know how Gordon can actually now avoid calling an election. This muight not have been his original intention, it being a "cunning plan" dreamt up by Douglas Alexander et al to unsettle the Tories -but by allowing the speculation to intensify to the levels there are now at and not now follow through will quite rightly lay Gordon open to accusations of dithering and cowardice. He's painted himself into a corner from which he will find it difficult to now extricate himself. So therefore it's extremely likely he will call an election next week - what option has he left ?
I think hes bottled it he was counting on his Iraq trip to spoil Camerons week and knock him off the news but he got caught out the story became him making a cheap shot and people dont like that.My money is on him going to the end then retiring to spend time with his sick kid its the cowards way out and that yellow stripe just gets bigger.Was he a real man he would have done this when the doctors diagnosed him im sure a well paid job a couple of days a week could have been found but no the ego has landed.
anon 7:22 - you're right.
The evidence:
Saatchi and Saatchi working all night this week on a "major campaign"
Billboards being block-booked for October
Labour ministers being told to keep their diaries clear for October
A senior Labour NEC member discreetly advising his local council electoral services department to get organised urgently for Nov 1st.
Unless Dave has forced a wobble, it's on.
Steve Richards in the Independent is in print today stating that his suspicion is not in November:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article3024715.ece
It partly depends on whether the Yanks are going to bomb Iran or not.
If they are, and assuming Gordon has advance notice, he'll call an election before that happens.
One could envisage our hasty exit from Basra as clearing the decks before the Shiites hit the fan, so to speak.
Agree with inamicus. I was told by by a very reliable source that the tories thought it was 80% certain unless they had a good conference.
The same evidence in terms of billboards and block printing time being booked for October is what I heard.
* Team Cameron - we don't know but "we are on battle stations".
* Team Brown - we don't know but "we are on bottle stations".
If those pundits have made bets with each other, someone is going to make a fortune.
There is no doubt that GB would win a snap election, his only concern is by how much. If his majority is reduced it will look & feel like a defeat and this will haunt him upto the next election, & probably giving the momentum to the Tories.
I believe that GB will not make his mind up until he gets an idea of the Tory conference "bounce", & will only call a snap election if he is ahead by enough to suggest an increased majority.
Have you noticed how the line has changed drastically in the media since yesterday afternoon?
Following Cameron's successful speech (which followed on from a vey positive conference) and the positive way this was presented by last nights news reports the line being put out now is that "nobody really wants an election and Brown has never said there would be one this year anyway."
Election speculation is now being dampened down considerably. Funny how it's only changed since all this good publicity for the Tories.
Clearly, Brown is now bottling it big time and there will be no election this year unless the polls tomorrow and at the weekend show no Tory bounce back which, given their successful conference and presentation, is extremely unlikely.
In 2005 Labour were behind the Tories in England.
In Scotland the SNP are running high and will probably take more than just a few seats from them, as will the Lib Dums and maybe even the Tories.
In Wales Plaid Cymru are doinmg well and there has been a resurgence in Tory support.
In NI Paisley is the man.
The BRown bounce has been shown, over the Tory conference, to be a facade and just that, a bounce after Blair. During an election campaign the Tories will make plain that this is the man at Blairs shoulder for ten years and the man that actually made some of the worst decisions; pensions, tax etc. etc. etc. and the spotlight of an election will show Brown as the nasty little non-entity he really.
The Tories want it now, and Brown knows all the above...he will stretch his term out as long as possible, quite apart from he doesn't have the funds.
Ben Brogan of the Mail says no election this year. He has a direct link to Brown and usually gets these things right.
http://broganblog.dailymail.co.uk/2007/10/there-wont-be-a.html
It's all a cunning plan by Gordon Brown to get the unions to pay up to their New Liebour leaders. Those interest debt payments on -£26 million must be hurting the party.
Can someone point me to the place where Brown stated he would make all troop announcements in parliament,please?
The press reported the Conservatives' 'allegations' but did not in any report I saw reference Browns' statement/pledge and contrast it with his announcement in Iraq - Thus proving a lie.Please could someone tell me where I can find Brown making this pledge.I wish to make a complaint.
All Brown's stooges at the BBC both radio and telly are spinning the same line this morning:
"What election?
Gordon Brown never said there would be an election.
The public don't want an election.
We only had one 2 years ago."
Funny how they weren't saying any of this yesterday morning.
You Tory boys are really feart.
Ye ken yer gonnae lose. We smell the fear.
If Gordon can't win big, he will not call a snap election.
And why are we critising him if he doesn't, there is no constitutional crises requiring a public vote, and what politician would not make such a decision a political one, i.e. whats best for my party?
Brown's been tipped off by Mori that the polls are showing a significant Tory bounce hence election fever being dampened and no election this year.
I am all in favour of journalists being held to account for what they have written, but not for distorted extracts. What I actually wrote on September 26 was not that there would be an election on November 1 or 8, but "if there is to be a contest this autumn, it will almost certainly be on November 1 or 8, the first in that month since 1935. Whether there is one then is still in the balance". Very different, I am sure you will agree. It is still obviously in the balance, depending on the next three or four days of polls. As I have been writing this week, I think an early election could easily backfire on Gordon Brown, producing a 1992 type result, which would undermine his authority and boost the Tories.
all best wishes
Peter Riddell
ecbbi @ 8:46 & bbc @ 9:01 are right.
Two things on the Beeb last night
- Crick doorstepped a Labour marginal, where NuLab seemed in total, almost blissful disarray, but the Tories were in fighting form, flush with Ashcroft's ££
- Nick Robinson's summary was: Gordon Brown is very happy with the choices he's got open to him. He then rehearsed the case for statesman Brown turning down the opportunistic option in a responsible and lordly fashion.
Ground being prepared for slinking back off into the night. He's bottled it alright.
Can Labour's bank balance afford an election yet?
I heard Guido's friend Michael White say on "The Daily Politics" that there wouldn't be a 2007 Autumn election.
There is zilcho chance of an election this autumn. For the full story, rush to thedailybrute.blogspot.com
It is under the post headed 'Told you so'
Hmm.. But on Dale, Ben Brogan is meant to be backing an early election !
The democratic thing is to go soon, so he won't.
Teams of lawyers getting slaughtered by the treasury all this week- no maybes, it's on.
Peter Riddell seems like a jolly nice chap. Guido, be a good sport and apologise properly.
There won't be an early election. It seems Labour was deluded by the Torygraph polls into believing they really were 11 points ahead despite the Independent polls saying they were neck-and-neck. It was only a matter of time before their own polls told the truth - that Labour are not only not ahead in the polls but are behind in the key marginals.
I think Gorgon has in any case screwed himself and continues to do so. During the "honeymoon period" the electorate could have been excused for believing that Gorgon was a big man, a great statesman, a man of substance, a leader. But his pathetic electioneering in Iraq and his audacious stealing of Tory policies has corrupted all that.
The Tories are already leading the country. Gorgon doesn't do anything without peering over his shoulder to see what Cameron is doing - and then he does the same. Cameron is leading that country and Gorgon is just a fat bloke with a personality disorder that needs to copy other real men to look anything like human. Gorgon is pathetic.
And of course there is also a closet full to bursting with stuff Prudence doesn't want to look at but which will come tumbling out into the spotlight once election day is announced.
Cheney-Bush want to do Iran in next 6/9 months.....so an early election will clear the space for Gordo Neo Blair to support George B.
mongoose
You're not refering to the notorious Gordon/rocking horse photo are you?
It's funny to see Gordon's man Peter Riddell backpedalling furiously (9.19am)
No election in 2007 then. Brown's had a sniff of the upcoming polls and he's bottled it alright.
Grim Gordon is a coward at heart. He has not waited, brooding, for the power he believes is rightfully his, all to risk it on a snap election. If he loses he will be the shortest serving PM of modern times, and I doubt he could face that prospect. An early election would be like risking everything on the turn of a card, and nothing in the Grimster's psyche leads me to believe he's a gambler. The bastard even fucked Manchester over the supercasino to prove he isn't!
This story about the 1 million disenfranchised voters if the election is held before December is brown's get out clause (unless he suspects that 1 million voters who have just moved house might likely vote Tory and is rather counting on them being disenfranchised)
It makes no sense to bottle it now. Everyone will say he bottled because Cameron did so well - making him look weak and Cameron much stronger.
He should get the win now not risk letting the Tories build on any momentum. OK, he might not win by as many as 66, but that still may be enough to dispose of Cameron. If he leaves it another six months he risks giving Cameron enough time to really challenge him.
If he can get rid of Cameron, the Tories are finished for another ten years. Why would he give the Tories time to make ground on him - or risk economic downturn? One in the hand and all that...
If he doesn't go now he is making a grave error.
Gordon Brown last week:
"WELL AAAARLRIGHT!!
WELL AAAARLRIGHT!!!!!" (a la Kinnock)
Gordon Brown this week:
"I never said I was gonna call an election this year"
The "Great Strategist" has boxed himself into a corner. If he runs, he will be weakened; if he waits, he will look a fool.
Has this man ever done anything right?
Earlier, it was suggested that he takes medication for depression. That's no moral failing, but it would be of interest. Does anyone know what the tell-tale physical signs would be?
Labour's own private polls are currently showing them being behind the oposition in many of their 50 most marginal seats.
The loss of just 33 of these would mean the loss of their overall majority.
That's why there will be no election this year.
I have to agree there will be no GE.
Anyone who does any careful risk analysis can see the risk/rewards are all wrong.
"Anyone who does any ...analysis" of course rules out ALL political commentators who appaear either totally biased one way or the other .. or just to regurgitate spin.
Imo the whole affair shows the UK political commentators for what they really are:
shallow, stoopid, unthinking, backslapping and incapable of original thought.
That's why I read blogs... far more chance of some sense amongst the dross.
it's the marginals....
Er, not really. The point about polls is they are representative. Therefore you expect voters in ALL constituencies to feel roughly the same. Marginal or not makes no difference.
As Groucho Marx might have said had he ever met our Gordon:
"I like your nose - did you pick it yourself?"
The point today is that Brown can't have an objective 'should I, shouldn't I' debate anymore.
The prospects of an early election have been raised so much that to back off now would be more damaging than calling one.
If the polls are wrong, and the Cons are closer to Labour, then this is a reason to go now rather than wait. The polls will only get worse for Brown.
A month ago he could, and should, have waited. Now he MUST go.
Very, very, very interesting Paul..
But I keep tuning in for news on the private prosecution for Lord Levy.
Tom thinks an update is due.
But Tom has been known to have been wrong before.
Regards,
Tom
mitch said...
it's the marginals....
Er, not really. The point about polls is they are representative. Therefore you expect voters in ALL constituencies to feel roughly the same. Marginal or not makes no difference.
Yes it does when the Tories and LibDems have been working their arses off for months in those marginal constituencies and concentrating their resources there.
Why do you think Ashcroft, amongst others, is pumping money into those marginals.
Thirty or forty marginals will decide the next election. The political parties take all the other constituncies for granted.
Gordon's chum, Dame Micheal White has just said on Radio 4 that Brown has NEVER said he would call an election and that "it is all speculation drummed up by the media and David Cameron."
That confirms it then. Brown has definitely bottled it.
Yes - If NuLab apparatchik and cheerleader Michael White is making excuses then Bottler Brown has bottled it.
Next up will be Polly Tonybee claiming that the election hysteria is a product of the Murdoch press egged on by the evil Tories.
This is all just a big misunderstanding, Gordon only ever spoke to a few trusted confidants in the media about his eRection!
So its a no win situation for the Brown Bastard. He goes to the polls and scrapes a majority and has a hung parliament or goes back on his word again, cough referendum cough.
Such a useless cunt running our country.
big baby, other stuff is pretty widely known about. Prudence hadn't her knees clamped together all those years until the glamorous Mrs B swept her off her feet. (The rocking horse story I had assumed to be somebody's unsettling imagination at work. Funny, though.)
mitch, the vast majority of constituencies simply return the same party decade after decade; yes, the odd one swaps over every now and again but the marginals are the point of it all.
When its held doesn't matter. Forget about it. Brown will win with a small majority, lets get back to something that matters.
Education? Iraq? NHS?
@Mitch: "The point about polls is they are representative. Therefore you expect voters in ALL constituencies to feel roughly the same. Marginal or not makes no difference."
Elections are only decided on the marginals and political parties can and do focus policy on consitutuents in those marginals. Why did George Osborne make a big thing about inheritance tax in his speech? Because he knows there are a lot of Londoners that stand to inherit £1m+ properties and would quite like to avoid paying tax on this - and the Tories need to do better in London. Its a strategy specifically aimed at winning control in those key marginals with policy aimed at the type of people that live in those marginals.
@Mitch (again): "If the polls are wrong, and the Cons are closer to Labour, then this is a reason to go now rather than wait. The polls will only get worse for Brown." Because he's crap. In which case he should stay put since he will get to stay in power until 2010 with a workable majority.
Clara "The Fat Lady" has scoop on Brown and Blair in their younger days but she wouldn't tell in her book. Surely she's told friends at parties so it must be out there somewhere.
It was good to see Daisy McAndrew kick the shit out of Brown on today's ITV lunchtime news.
He's been televised today opening a "new" medical centre in the highly marginal Basildon constituency but Daisy revealed the centre was actually opened THREE MONTHS AGO and today's event was a charade for the cameras.
Daisy's report concentrated on Brown spinning again rather than the medical centre. She sounded thoroughly sick of him.
I hear that many media types thought Brown's Iraq stunt was a step too far and have turned against him.
humble scribbler said.."He's been televised today opening a "new" medical centre in the highly marginal Basildon constituency but Daisy revealed the centre was actually opened THREE MONTHS AGO and today's event was a charade for the cameras."
Almost all official openings take place after the premises have been up and running for some time.
^^^ Maybe he should have himself checked out while he was there considering he appears to be knocking at deaths door
Strangely the bbc haven't found space for Osborne's release showing the chronology of when the Basildon health centre actually opened. The bbc really has sold its soul to nulab !
Iain Dale says tommorrows Guardian/ICM poll shows a 3% tory lead.
Oh dear Mr Brown..
big jock
The YouGov poll in the Telegraph will show a similiar Tory lead.
This explains why Brown's stooges have been busy all day claiming that Brown himself has never said anything about an election this year. He has seen the polls and bottled it.
Having marched his troops to the top of the hill Brown has seen what's over the other side, crapped himself, and marched them back down again.
What little credibility Brown had left is now in tatters.
It's not just the fact that the Tories had a good conference that's done for him, it's his cynical stunt over troop withdrawals that backfired.
Everyone I know was thoroughly disgusted by him playing political games with British soldier's lives.
I doubt most people will ever forgive him for that.
Charlotte Corday said...
I heard Guido's friend Michael White say on "The Daily Politics" that there wouldn't be a 2007 Autumn election.
Given White's uncanny ability to predict the exact opposite of what his ego tells him is going to happen I suppose we had all better prepare for a November election then.
Looks like the begining of the end for the deranged psycho who schemed his way into the Prime Minister's job.
Let's hope he doesn't do too much damage before the men in white coats have to carry him out of Downing St in a straight-jacket.
wakey wakey Julian...an election with a Tory lead of 3% in two polls?
Helloooo!!!!
Just backed Cameron at 70 to 1 to be the only major party leader to be in post come the next general election. No election for three more years I suspect.
How it must grate with the Big Baby that's he's still relying on Blair's election win for his position. Cameron's speech showed him up as wooden out of date and bereft of ideas. His little jaunt to Iraq could be the end of the Brown bounce. I'm suprised it lasted!
I've just seen Geordie Kev Maguire walking along with a face like a slapped arse. Brown's stooge looks like summat's really upset him. I wonder what it is?
All bets off I think.
If the Guardian poll tomorrow confirms the rumours i.e. Tories have 3% LEAD(yes - I said LEAD) over Labour and the Channel4/YouGov poll that Labour's lead has been cut to 3% Gordon will have no nails left and Cameron has "shot Brown's fox" good and proper
Praguetory: you think Brown is going to be ousted by his own party before the next election...? Ming, I can understand, but Brown... the reds bloody love him!
alex - it's called a value bet - I think there's a reasonable chance he'll retire through ill health.
Too late for you to get on - it's now only 15 to 1.
Poor old Gordon, always second place....second choice to Blair...given a second hand premiership....and now the possibility of being the prime minister with the seconf shortest reign........the guy's just second rate
Even his conference speech was second hand
e-mailed this to guido, but think he's busy, so i'll post it straight up....
Friend and fellow hack has just called me. One of his mates from Oxford is high up in the department of health and been on the blower.
He says the dept has been told to expect an announcement on Monday about an election.
This may be a bit lost in translation but this doesn't seem to be a definite, but dept have to be prepared 'to lose their ministers' for three/four weeks if an election is called.
So it seems once Gordo and his black dog have been through the papers on Sunday and the Sith has roasted the figures, they've got a slot to go on Monday.
But it's looking quite bad.
Prague, that was a great bet at 70-1; 15-1 sounds a bit mean.
Brown from now on will be known as Procol Harum, having recently turned a whiter shade of pale.
Not everybody in Scotland hates him but the ones who do are very vocal. The harridan, Sister Wendy Alexander, enraged even Unionists with her crass apology to UK Lab plc for the Scottish people not voting as they were told by their traditional thuggish masters.
The Iraq thing plays larger here than in England for lots of reasons: it is a wee country and the pacifist movement is highly visible not only over Iraq but over Faslane and Trident and even non-pacifists are raging about the amalgamation, by the dwarf brawler Reid, of the Scottish regiments, military stuff is big in Scotland; there have been high-profile individual campaigns by those bereaved and for nationalists the whole idea of war being a matter reserved to Westminster is abhorrent; the CIA rendition flights from Prestwick Airport have also enraged people of all persuasions; The Great Masturbator's bungled spinning foray into Iraq is widely despised, therefore, more so than in England, the Scots take things very personally and, as we know, carry grudges for centuries.It was bad enough and then someone pushed that moron Ainsworth into the spotlight. The Iraq spin is just about the stupidest thing Brown could have done.
Minority King Alec Salmond, who is currently well regarded by press and people is shrewd enough to damage Brown, right in his own constituency -make it a personal issue between Salmond's candidate and the sitting prime minister; the Scots'd love it and remember, when last Brown was here campaigning for the neighbouring seat, so unpopular was he that a sound Labour majority fell to the Mould-Breakers.
Should he lose his own seat then he would be spending a lot of time in the gaybars of New England, or else lying down in a quiet place with no sharp surfaces. It is almost poignant to consider that Tony and Sharon will probably, after all, have the last laugh. What a crew of grotesques.
ps can we leave Lady Michael White for a while, all this talk of her makes a weak man queasy. When I was a boy the Guardian was such a fine independent newspaper; now it is home to the vilest, most rancid cunts in the media. (Apart from Mr McGuire, who festers in a CuntLeague all of his own at the Mirror.)
Tomorrow's poll in the Guardian will show a small Labour lead. Down considerably from the last one. Tonight's Ch 4 poll will show a 3% Labour lead, hugely down from 11% last week.
More than enough for Brown to bottle it and retreat back to his bunker with the howls of derision ringing in his ears.
Next week's PMQ's should be fun though, perhaps, Macavity will phone in sick.
He's not up to the job as many of us warned at the time.
All NuLab's dodgy postal votes will be gummed up in the works, thanks to the horny-handed ones.
Anonymous said...
humble scribbler said.."He's been televised today opening a "new" medical centre in the highly marginal Basildon constituency but Daisy revealed the centre was actually opened THREE MONTHS AGO and today's event was a charade for the cameras."
Almost all official openings take place after the premises have been up and running for some time...
Get your facts straight, trollboy.
ITV said the medical centre was OFFICIALLY OPENED 3 months ago and none of the medical staff knew anything about today's charade opening by Brown.
It's just another cheap stunt by the man who is an even bigger liar than Bliar.
Anonymous said...
humble scribbler said.."He's been televised today opening a "new" medical centre in the highly marginal Basildon constituency but Daisy revealed the centre was actually opened THREE MONTHS AGO and today's event was a charade for the cameras."
Almost all official openings take place after the premises have been up and running for some time...
Get your facts straight, trollboy.
ITV said the medical centre was OFFICIALLY OPENED 3 months ago and none of the medical staff knew anything about today's charade opening by Brown.
It's just another cheap stunt by the man who is an even bigger liar than Bliar.
Gordon Brown is too tired and unwell to run an election campaign.
Just look at him, he's visibly aged several years in the 3 months he's been PM. That's what happens when you can't delegate and try to run a country single-handedly.
The job is killing him.
Anonymous said...
The job is killing him.
Can't wait.......seriously........make my day! Shortest reign of a Scottish PM ever....luv it
GB is a 33 degree Grand Master of the Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasons, and so was his father.
To know what is going on in the world is sometimes a good thing and sometimes not. But if you really must know, a bit of quick and simple research on the WWW about what freemasonry is and what its millions of powerful and highly influential worshipers believes in, may help.
Praguetory said.."Just backed Cameron at 70 to 1 to be the only major party leader to be in post come the next general election."
Some people like throwing their money away.
From the Essex Echo:
“The Essex Cardiothoracic Centre opened to its first patients on July 1.
Critics said the visit was simply a publicity stunt because it had been opened by Health Secretary Alan Johnson in July.
Mr Johnson did visit health facilities in south Essex, including the heart and lung centre, but did not open the new building.
A Basildon Hospital spokesman said: "On July 10, the hospital wrote to the Prime Minister inviting him to perform the official opening of the Centre, and suggested a number of dates in October.
"We told him this would be a major boost for the local community which is very proud that its local hospital is hosting such an important new NHS service.
"We were delighted that the Prime Minister was able to accept our invitation.”
Brown slipping badly in the latest polls and Channel 4 news focusing on his stumpy little fingers with nails chewed down to the bone.
It's all turning nasty for Gordon. He's looking worn-out, haggard, and has developed a large pot-belly in recent weeks.
Won't be long before he cracks up completely. He's showing increasing signs of it now. Control freaks have to be in control but he's now at the mercy of events. The uncertainty is kiling him. He's definitely on tranx/anti-depressants, probably dosage increased in last day or two.
He's totally psychologically unsuited to the job as any shrink could have told you.
Oh dear what can the matter be,
The polls are all bad so he's hid in the lavatory,
That's why they call him Gordon Macavity,
He thinks we don't know he's there.
yeah ive just backed cameron as well 45-1 , couldnt bring my self to pre christmas election 25-1.
i am so pissed off with nu labour now , major lost because he was pictured as grey , how can you caricature someone who lies and shafts the country its just unheard of , at leats maggie informed us to expect pain, this nut jobs , not telling anyone the truth.
ps like all the poll news, if cons have a 3% lead i say bring it on ooohhhh yyeeeeeeesss
thanks
red despot spotter
I am not sure if any one thinks the same as me but Gordie ain't looking too good in a crisis. Panic seems to be trickling out of number ten as the briefings start to ensure reverse gear is fully engaged.
I am not sure who the morons are they interview for the polls but what exactly has he done in the last three months that proves he is the man for a crisis and therefore better than Cameron.
First up - most of the crisis can be traced back to either underfunding as the Treasury henchmen tighten the spending noose or the Government which Gordon shared for the last ten years failed to act on advice.
Secondly, all he has done is make announcements - any suit could have done that although he has proven himself more than capable of reading a script - maybe thats the new labour view of crisis management.
Thirdly, he has carried on in the Tony tradition of usurping his Ministers and making all the announcements himself. Hail the new President. For example, where was Mr Benn last weekend when Gordie made the announcement about blue tongue - why the PM when we are paying for a more than capable Minister. The lure of the limelight or putting on that superman suit and proving to us all that he really is the action man the country needs.
But at least it has proved one thing to this voter - nothing has changed at No 10 so time for a change.
red despot spotter & fellow Tory's
They make good reading-the Times in particular.
Even more interesting is far from Al Beebs backspin-it seems people are now up for it:
ELECTION TIMING
36% - Autumn 2007
32% - 2008
7% - 2009
7% - 2010
17% - Don't know
Source: YouGov/Channel 4 News
Bring it on NuLab trollers-and after todays spin on the NHS things are only going to get worse.
And here is Al Beeb shitting themselves:
"But Mr Brown has repeatedly said he was "getting on with the job" of governing when asked if a poll would be organised."
http://bbc-biased.blogspot.com/
With the Fib Dems in shit as well then we will look strong in both the South West and the South (Hants and Wilts looks very tasty now)
GF-Did you put cleaning products into Bollox's tea yesterday?
Just been telephone canvassed tonight by Labour. I live in a Midlands marginal in the tories top 50 targets. Don't tell me this a co-incidence.
More shit for Brown:
Labour on 38%, Conservatives 38% and Liberal Democrats 16%.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/polls/story/0,,2183987,00.html#article_continue
Read that and weep NuLab Trollers
The Clucking Fist says No
Andrew Dismore (Lab, Hendon) has tonight called on his Leader NOT to have an election, Labour MPs are getting scared.
If you look at the way Gordon Brown speaks to the camera you will notice that between sentences he breathes in through his mouth and his cheeks move inwards! this is a classic sign of deceit and lying BUT its the "micro expressions" that give the game away! He shows the classic signs of an ultra dominant and borderline schitzoid paranoia complex. In other words he is ill and getting worse by the day! He trusts only himself and has an inverted sense of loyalty and I would bet that a mental breakdown is on the cards SOON!
IF a person is the sum of his/her early social experiences then GB fits the profile of an authoritarian "born to rule" and "I know what is best because my family ruled the lives of many for generations" minor regional despot type! Plain English? a typical 19th century country squires older male child! He would be best suited for a leadership role in a place like "stonybridge parish council"? (an old comedy sketch show skit)
Stoneybridge? There's a blast from the past. I think even the good burghers of that eccentric little town would balk at having Brown amongst their number.
I used to love Absolutely.
If it get's too much for Gordo, or he gets the boot, I've got just the job:
Assistant diverstity outreach officer in Kircaldy. His boss would be one Tony Blair. One second thoughts even that's to good for the devious "Leader and teacher"!
"If you look at the way Gordon Brown speaks to the camera you will notice that between sentences he breathes in through his mouth and his cheeks move inwards!"
It's more frequent than that, he sucks in air rather noisily every six words or so. It's a most unattractive feature, which I had down as some sort of nervous tic.
When he became our Dear Leader the BBC showed some film of speaking when he was the Che Guevara of Glasgow University, and even at that early age he had exactly the same mannerism.
Let's face it: he's a fucking freak. I hope they don't let him anywhere the nuclear button.
To anoymous at 1:58 PM -
Luckily, once the order is given, releasing the weapons is effectively at the discretion of the submarines commander. Fortunately for us they know exactly what they control and what they'd be doing.
Gorgons probably got a toy button on his desk that fires up a massive anal vibrator, when he's got a shared moment with pretty boy Konrad.
How can anyone vote for a man who's jaw doesn't work properly and nails are bitten to the quick?
He's a one man freakshow
Peter Riddell ruled out any prospect of a 2007 poll back in June. that's what first persuaded me it was likely.
Janet Daley has done a similar flip.
I've been saying for five months that there'll be an election this year which almost certainly menas there won't be, as I'm the world's worst forecaster.