What Did Gordon Learn Today from Thatcher?
The sheer audacity of Team Brown is breathtaking. Are they really trying to portray him as the heir to Thatcher? It is all very well claiming to be a conviction politician, but what if they are the wrong convictions?Remind yourself of just two examples of when Gordon was on the wrong side of a big battle born of conviction.
Facing down Soviet Communism - Brown was opposed to installing the Cruise and Pershing missiles that the Soviets feared most and could not afford to match. This brought them to the negotiating table.
Miners Strike - the crucial and decisive battle for the economic well being of the country - at the time he opposed Thatcher's determination to end once and for all Scargill's blackmail. He never supported the rights of working miners who faced harassment and violence. When David Wilkie was killed by striking NUM miners there was no condemnation from Gordon Brown.
The list is long. Team Brown is doing this not out of conviction, but for pure spin...
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Poor Maggie must be ga-ga to fall for this.
Earlier this week he went to display his solidarity with the unions at their conference. Within 48 hours, he's hobnobbing with the world's biggest Union Buster.
He's like Jade Goody, he'll do anything to get his face on TV.
Poor Guido, he is so apoplectic that he has lost the use of his apostrophes...
David Cameron is a model of ideological integrity compared to Gordon "Maggie" Brown.
All these Labour supporters who hate the Iron Lady are swallowing very hard and telling themselves that it's all part of beating the Tories but they fear, rightly, that the long-term effect is to build a national consensus that recognises the pre-eminence of our greatest peacetime PM.
We all agree, Maggie Thatcher is magic.
Come on its a masterpiece in how to fuck Cameron over. The poor little lamb has probably been avoiding appearing with Thatcher in public as he's worried he'll scare off the voters but the core support would like nothing better than her blessing. Now if he appears with Thatcher it will look like he's just a shameless publicity seeker.
She must really loathe Dave Cameron. Either that, or Gordo has some hold over Markie-boy.
Read Matthew Paris recently on Brown. He noted that for years he'd banged on that Blair was a delusional fantastist.
His new take is that Brown hasn't got a single idea in his head.
This man is all salami-slicing the tax base when behind the scenes and stunts in front of the cameras.
Team Brown is audacious, but desperate. When the economy finally slows (look at the oil price..) he will be fucked.
Enjoy the bigger-than-Tone's-tent while it lasts.
Paris is right. It's a substitute for ideas. Blair had three policy initiatives a day. Brown wants a defection a week.
Wonder whether the lithium dose is higher than ususal these days?
There was a difference between ending Scargill's blackmail, and setting out to create a conflict which would wipe out the economic prosperity for a generation in the North of England. In that case the ends did not justify the means.
Do you think Gordon gave her a signed copy of his 1989 book mentioned here:
http://ybfblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/thatcher-meets-brown-at-10-downing-street/
Perfect bedtime reading, you'd sleep in seconds.
Well he was right about the miners' strike. Thatcher started stockpiling Polish coal 18 months before she provoked the strike which enabled the saintly Dennis to make a tidy sum selling brand new mining equipment to South African mine owners. Her actions didn't just close pits. She destroyed decent communities, families, brass bands, whippet and pigeon racing, knowledge built up over 150 years and more and a whole way of life. After ensuring that EU compensation money destined for mining communities was pocked by sleazy intermediaries she replaced the thriving mining communities with drug addicted youth, graffitti, vandalism, desperation and wasted lives. If Gordon objected then he didn't object loud enough cos I didn't hear him.
HAHA! Dave must have pissed his pants!
Seriously though, this bollocks about Thatch and Reagan bringing down the USSR. The Soviet Union collapsed because communism is a shit idea and couldn't be sustained into the 1990s. End of.
Bless. Steer clear of the politics Guido. It really isn't your strong point.
anon 6:12pm - your leader Gordon didn't think it was a such a bad idea though, did he, chap?
The only conviction I want to see in Gordon Brown is the one that will move him from Downing St to Pentonville.
Shit! How come Labour got the coke!
It's all true - Brown admires Thatcher intensely; I checked the 6 o'clock news and, whilst guiding her towards the front door, Gordo could barely keep his hand off Maggie's arse. When he shows her around her old haunting ground (and she's dreamily reminiscing about the past) he'll probably quietly take the opportunity to bend her over a handy banister, emblematically haul up that red dress and give the old crow a thoroughly good rogering. Doesn't it just look as though he's steeling himself for it?
In fact (like tyburn jig 4:57pm), I can't imagine how Mag's fallen for this one...I can only surmise she's demanded he slip her a satisfactory proportioned 'political donation' in return for her appearance.
When we see her red knickers flying over Downing Street we'll know for sure that Gordo has realised his dream of 'consensus politics' and that an historic party union has been achieved.
Don't you guys realise that the SpAds at Number 10 will be laughing their chunkies off reading the comments of apoplectic posters on sites like this ?
As Michael Winner might say..
"Calm down dear.."
Fucking hell
I though she hated poofs.
Margaret Thatcher is Cherie Blair's Ma, Robert Maxwell was Cherie's Pa.
Gordo's on the payroll to keep the secret.
7:24 PM
Yes, as a result of the psychiatric medication he is under, Brown is clearly hallucinating and thinks she's a can of Labour Cola (as described in Guido's previous post). Moments after the photo was taken, he was pulling off her top, tipping his head back and, lips thrust apart, was sipping the sweet stuff from her aperture.
Makes a change to have politicians' labial organs fresh-pressed into some quiet productive action.
gordon how lovely to see you.
NOW GIVE US THE REFERENDUM OR ILL BREAK YOUR ARSE .
thanks
pig farmer
How many of the NuLab sockpuppets would have wanted their sons to work in a coal mine? Would you want to condemn your sons to the romance of heavy labour underground with dust,noise and darkness? OK the miners backed Lib/Lab MPs then were instrumental in helping Labour into existance, but get real, the UK seams are deep underground with higher extraction costs, compared to Australia where open cast mines are common. Thatcher can be given the blame for shutting the mines down, but ultimately the UK industry could not compete on cost.
Mining was not a great job, if it was why did so many young, Welshmen work hard at school to go into anything but mining in the '50s, 60s and 70s?
McStalin Broon could still be stitched up by Mrs T, why would else she want to deal with this mendacious little creep?
I hope she wore a bogey proof dress, even when he's hiding in his favourite cupboard I bet he's a menace for it.
Senile dementia has turned her into a fag hag. What a sad way to go.
Ah, for the good old 1970s when, as a medical student, I used to clerk in former miners, coughing up the contents of their lungs, unable to walk and looking like death at the age of 54...
Anon 6.12
If you research it it was Reagan with the introduction of Star Wars that brought down the USSR. They knew they couldn't match it so tried to reform to improve. Instead of improving things fell apart.
My source Gromyko anf yes I probably have spelt it wrong
Note to Gordo's trolls and sockpuppets.
When I get the chance to vote, the following will be on my mind.
(In no particular order, and not an exhaustive list.)
ID cards
EU treaty
Gratuitous waste in the NHS
Pension funds
The Kelly sham-inquiry
The Sith
Cash for honours
Cronyism
Treatment of injured soldiers
A-level grade inflation
PFI
Today's stunt with Mrs Thatcher does not make the journey into my radar. Except that it reminds me that there will always be idiots stupid enough to think that a minor PR coup will make me forget more important matters.
"She destroyed decent communities,"
So decent that they used to beat up anybody who crossed the picket line. Typical collectivist mindset - "because we go on strike everybody else must!".
"she replaced the thriving mining communities with drug addicted youth, graffitti, vandalism, desperation and wasted lives."
We had economic depression in the 30s but such things did not occur. Being unemployed doesn't turn you into a drugged up vandal, that's just a lame excuse.
Buggeration! This must be the worst day in my whole life! You traitorous brown-nosing cocksucking bitch! How could you do this to me! You were my all-time idol! I use to lie in bed at night fantasizing about your power and persuasive abilities and knew alone had the M-factor!
I've made a towering pyre of all my favourite Maggie memorabilia in the back garden and am now in the process of torching the lot! I've gone smashed every piece of Maggie crockery.
Included for eco-unfriendly disposal on the big bonfire are:
my maggie annuals
my maggie t-shirts
my thatcherite teaspoons
my maggie ladels (medicineal dosage)
my maggie pyjamas
my maggie socks
my maggie underpants
my maggie cushions
my maggie bedspread
my maggie photos and artwork
my maggie lifesize blow-up statue
my maggie socks
my maggie hankies
my maggie napkins
my matching maggie handbags and shoes
my maggie twinsets
my maggie wigs
my navy blue maggie bra and pantie sets...
the list is endless
i'm ruined...i've invested a lifetimes sweat and labour into this collection...i'm heartbroken...it's as if she has died today...i'm going to jump onto the blazing crematorial pile with her!
Burn Baby Burn!!!!
What Did Gordon Learn Today from Thatcher?
Be very careful placing your trust in silver-haired youthful-looking Chancellors ....
The picture at the head of this post interested me. Mrs T looked like a headmistress who'd just given her head prefect a sound bollocking, and Gordon looked sheepish.
no longer anonymous:
Some striking miners did. They do not equal the entire community.
And the 1980s was a very different place in terms of temptations, extremes of wealth and lack of respect, all things Thatcher helped build. It created a freer, more fluid and opportunistic age for some, but for those outside of this, extreme envy or hopelessness.
You have to admire Gordon's chuzpa: he's obviously been planning all this for a long time. ('Ha, they think I'll be extreme left, but - ho-ho-ho- - I'll turn into Mr Right.)
Gordo is playing National Government (last time we had one, in the 1930s, we had an economic crisis, so obviously he realises he's precipitated one himself that we'll discover imminently.) But Gordo doesn't want to play at being Ramsay Macdonald, he wants to be nicey-nicey Stanley Baldwin.
'This is another fine mess you've got us into, Stanley' as you might say.)
Look at to-days papers. There's a photograph of Gordon next to Maggie on steps of 10 Downing Street in just about every one not to mention the rest of the media.
That one photograph is worth a lot of poltical currency and once again the "Clunking Fist" has whacked Dave and his green agenda off the top spot and caused a little mischief at the same time
Gordon is a "player" no doubt about it. If I was him I'd be trying as hard as h*ll to get Maggie involved in some ostensibly "non-political" role in the "national interest". That would really "smart" in parts of the Tory Party !
What is going on at Northern Rock? It appears that it has borrowed from the B of E, is the amount 'unusally high' and is the event itself 'unusually' rare for this bank to be so illiquid?
I'd like to see some press articles covering the moral bankruptcy of someone who exploits an octogenarian with dementia in this way.
Feck me, who's next for tea, Tebbit, Redwood? And Maggie wore red...must have had you tory boys spitting blood.
Don't take it too bad, Maggie was always twisted, full of self importance, and prepared to do whatever she thought and fuck the consequences because changing your mind is worse than being wrong (I think Gordon calls that last one conviction politics).
It's all for show and the electorate is no impressed.
anon at 7.23
is that "player" in as "not a gentleman".
sorry - as in not in as . Dyspraxia wasn't diagnosed in my time
Hahahaha wonderful..an old has been and a never will be.
Whats next Eastenders? pulling pints no doubt down the old Vic.
Did I hear the new correctly that Maggie turned down an invitation to enter via Gordon's Back Door?
Now that's an image I don't need in my head at this time of the morning...
A fine pair of rancid old queens'; barking, delusional, vile beyond words. You'd think he might have worn a frock. The cunt.
I suppose there was the remote possibility of a mix-up occurring in the transport arrangements such that after the meeting he went home to her pad and she remained at number 10. It was well worth a try.
Historically the Tory party was always an anti free trade, pro tariff party. Margaret Thatcher changed all that blagging the party into adopting the liberal philosophy of Von Hayek; the man who famously wrote an article entitled "Why I am not a Conservative". With Dave's rediscovery of the concept of one nation conservatism it could be that things may be going back the way they were once before. Mrs Thatcher can see that the cause of the transnational corporations is best served by supporting El Gordo - that's why she's prepared to give him a photo-op!
The thing is by the time Thatcher went everyone was glad to see the back of her - just like Blair. Thatcher wouldn't win many popularity polls and Gordon, the man who vowed to turn his back on spin, is a fool to associate himself with her .
Here we have a picture of a vile delusional hasbeen reviled by the country, who wears womens clothes and was born without balls.
And Marge Thatcher
The picture illustrates an odd variation from the usual scenario. Normally, a conman worms his way into the elderly widow's home, rather than having her come round to his place.
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