Will Tony Be the First Catholic PM?
It would cause this Catholic freedom fighter immense amusement if today Tony became Britain's first Roman Catholic Prime Minister. Knowing the vanity of Blair it is not impossible that he would choose to join the Catholic communion by the hand of His Holiness.At this stage he will have no further hand in Anglican Bishopric appointments and any possible unease caused in Orange circles in Northern Ireland now irrelevant, it would be a good time to formalise his position.
An added bonus being he could ask the Pope there and then for absolution for his sins...
UPDATE : The Observer's John Hooper in Vatican City reports a Vatican source saying Blair used his last official foreign engagement before leaving office to tell the Pope he wanted to become a Roman Catholic.
"But, in talks lasting more than half an hour, the outgoing Prime Minister was left in no doubt that the Pope took a dim view of his record in office. A statement issued afterwards by the Vatican said there had been a 'frank exchange of views'. Vatican sources said the Pope remained unmoved in his view that Blair had been wrong over Iraq. To an even greater extent than his predecessor, Benedict feels that Catholic politicians cannot separate their public lives from their private."
74 comments:
He's hardly going to get three Hail Marys is he?
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*******************Blair: PMQ’s is Bollo*ks***********************
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This is his take on parliament and the scrutiny of the executive and imparticularly head of government. Who made it Bollo*ks - He did!!!! If he thought it was so bad - why did he not try and change it???!!!
This is in the Times Magazine today - A direct quote of what he thought.
Hopefully Brown will make it a twice weekly affair and even more importantly try and deter arselicking Labour MP’s from showing up elected members.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/the_blair_years/article1954245.ece?token=null&offset=12
Would it be legal for him to convert? The law may be an ass, but it's law nonetheless...
Guido
An added bonus being he could ask the Pope there and then for absolution for his sins...
1. I doubt the Pope has enough years left to live, to take on that task.
2. As a Catholic, I don't want the cunt joining our ranks.
There is nothing wrong with being a Catholic. But there is with being a hypocritical c*nt. Why did he not have the courage of his faith when he was PM?
Anyone who goes to this effort for religion has got to be a completely loopy,and so gossip has it has a wife with skin like an acned schoolboy.
Isn't Catholic Freedom fighter a contradiction in terms ?
Blair may be attracted to Catholicism by his need to have someone else issue absolution - he perhaps knows to much to do it for himself.
Well both Tony and the Pontiff have dodgy war records.
It all bollocks. My prediction is that he probably converted already and has just kept quiet till now.
Will toni blair please just FUCK OFF!! if the god botherers want him they can have him but it will take a shit long time to hear his confesion or will he just make a speech blaming
everyone else as usual.The catholic church pretty much runs on guilt so will they run vatican city off this one fuckpig.
Anyone over the age of 8 who needs an imaginary friend should be taken away by kind people and put where they can do no harm.
Screw Blair I hope he rots in hell ,we want a referendum NOW.
The Vatican is just the place for him , centuries of murder , corruption sexual ambiguity , hypocisy and freelaoding
The cunt should be pope.
Anonymous (1:39 PM) said...
Well both Tony and the Pontiff have dodgy war records.
Possible, the bastards been taking holy communion at RC services for years.
I wonder how many filing cabinets the Inquisition has on Blair?
Like to be serious, for a change, Guido.
As one myself, I say from experience that there is nothing I could wish better for a person than that he/she become a Catholic. But there's a possible snag, isn't there?
To become a Catholic you have to believe in Catholicism. Does Blair? Is he even close to believing in it? If so, I'm genuinely pleased - but really it will have been a road-to-Damascus change of heart, will it not, when you consider for example his solid record of anti-life voting in Parliament. I know God's grace works wonders, so maybe...I hope so. But if it's just a liking for the smell of incense (of which, actually, there's not as much nowadays as there was), then I'm afraid he'll have to be told that that falls a bit short of what is needed for becoming a Papist.
What's Blairs next trick on his grand tour ,trying to sell whats left of this country to Vatican City,seeing he's just sold us off to the EU, how many pieces of silver did he get.
Blair having two masters - the pope and George Bush... Imagine that...
If Blair's converting to Catholicism it can mean only one thing - that the bastard is going after Herr Ratzinger's job now. Emily won't be happy until 1/3rd of the world's population calls him 'Holiness'.
I'm afraid I simply don't believe this story. Like anonymous at 2.41 p.m., I cannot imagine Blair as one of us. He's got to be pulling our leg.
machiavelli 3:09pm
Blair having two masters - the pope and George Bush... Imagine that...
i wonder who gets first poke?
Has he taken Goldsmith with him to confession???
The Hitch:
Despite previously describing yourself as a Catholic (on your blog) you condemned yourself to purgatory by committing suicide last Sunday.
So no moralising from you, please!
Blair's so up to his neck in the blood of the innocents, he'll have to do a lot more than kiss the popes ring...
at the minimum, he's gonna have to lick all around it, inside and out, on a daily basis, suck the papal weisswurst for a few weeks, and then clean all the pigeonshit off the tricky bits on the Basilica roof.
and all because the lady won't invert
i fear it's a case of get absolution or you gettimg absolutely no action, darling
If the Prime Narcissist is planning to become a Catholic, I suspect it's prompted by the desire, conscious or otherwise, to become Pope. He's the sort of person whose existence is meaningless without an egocentric target: become Labour leader; become prime minister; win three elections; stay in office ten years. Actually doing anything useful en route to the target isn't important. But what's left for him now? Never again will he be able to posture so long and so satisfyingly in the international spotlight. Unless he gets his hands on the keys of St Peter one day. So he might be picturing Pope Mendax stepping out on that famous balcony thirty or forty years hence, ready to begin spouting gas _urbi et orbi_...
It would be a great day for the Church of England.
I really don't mind if he becomes RC. Moslem, Hindu, Jew, or even Mormon. Just as long as he either, 1. Gets nicked by the good Mr. Yates next week or failing that, 2. Gets hit by a fucking big truck.
He may be Presbyterian but I'm sure Gordon would jump at the chance to kiss the Pope's ring anyday.
Whatever next? Blair aids say he doesn't want to be the EU President (not that they would tell porkies). Then there's the head of the World Bank. Apparently that wasn't good enough. Rumour has it Vanity Blair is gunning to be the Pope one day. Let's hope the present Pope doesn't go the way of David Kelly.
"Would it be legal for him to convert? The law may be an ass, but it's law nonetheless": eh? What law?
I think he should convert to Hare Krishna -it would be a lot funnier. Can we vote on this?
A Prime Minister holding back on a religious decision based on what people in Northern Ireland might think? I doubt it. Not that your insinuation that people would go mad over it would be anything close to the truth. Some mad DUP Councillor might make a stupid comment (like that of Bobby Saulters about Mrs Blair in 1997) but that would be the height of it.
uffasbike 4:41 PM
But what's left for him now?
first man to colonize mars?
I thought Blair would convert to Islam...he's read The Penguin Koran....now he knows that Chairman Mo was a Penguin in Arabia......
It'll only give one more reason to loathe him- first of all he's Labour now he's becoming a Papist/Fenian bastard
Blair has to renounce his views on abortion and gay marriage first apparently.
Conversions to Catholicism by major politicians have become slightly longer affairs of late, so whilst it's a lovely thought that he might be the first Catholic PM it is, I'm afraid, probably fanciful. I don't mean to to be harsh but that's about right for this site ...
I'd rather Bliar converted to Judaism. Just thinking about the mohel coming along with that sharp, sharp knife is enough to give me wet dreams.
uffasbike 4:41 PM
If the Prime Narcissist is planning to become a Catholic, I suspect it's prompted by the desire, conscious or otherwise, to become Pope.
My good fellow, this is a quite probable prognosis, but what you have failed to comprehend is that, in his megalomaniacal mind, the papacy would merely constitute a career step towards becoming Almighty God - in which paramount office he would seek to amend the universal laws of morality in order to enable a purified presentation of his sick and sullied soul.
Bliar has shown little inclination thus far to repent of his sins and display contrition. What does he think will change? Is this an attempt to gain absolution using his current (and soon to dwindle) status in the same way that the wealthy payed the clergy in the Middle Ages?
I'm not a Catholic and I have nothing against our left-footed brethren although they are slightly intolerant of gays and users of contraception. I cannot understand how they could accept someone into their faith who has played fast and loose with many of their fundamental principles of belief. When has Bliar ever taken a stance on abortion for example.
Perhaps he thinks this is the only way he can avoid the fires of Hell. Perhaps he has been nagged into it by the wife. Perhaps he thinks it is a bigger, older and more interesting Church than the boring old Anglican one or the miserable Protestant ones, and therefore more befitting his stature? My money is on the lattermost motivation.
The Church of England will be all the stronger for his defection.
As for Roman Catholicism, Mr Blair has done nothing towards protecting the unborn child, excelled himself in embryo experimentation, gloried in gay partnerships, destroyed the foundations of Catholic adoption agencies...
Is he aware of what he has to swear when he is received into full communion with Rome?
What a hypocrite.
Good riddance.
Mr Fawkes, you Papists are welcome to him.
... I feel it only fair to point out that the Pope has no ability or any authority to grant absolution of any sins. Mind you, I feel that Tony will feel right at home at the right-hand of the mythical Whore Of Babylon, given he has sent so many of the people of Babylon to their early graves.
Of course, all that now remains is for the European Commission to put him on the fast track to being the Anti-....
anon at 8.37
.... surely you're not suggesting he could become the Anti-Santa ?
Or even the Anti-Gordon...
He's probably after a bishop-prick for himself
Blair could attain the impossible by being Ex-Communicated for Apostasy and think he is a Catholic
Surely I am not alone in thinking it odd that a Prime Minister who has engaged in a war which was condemned both by the current Pope and by his predecessor should have an easy entry into the Church. Speaking about the possibility of an invasion of Iraq before his election to the papacy, the then Cardinal Ratzinger said:
"All I can do is invite you to read the Catechism, and the conclusion seems obvious to me…the concept of preventive war does not appear in The Catechism of the Catholic Church." Later he would say: "It should never be the responsibility of just one nation to make decisions for the world." And following the start of the War, His Future Holiness was unequivocal in his views: "There were not sufficient reasons to unleash a war against Iraq. To say nothing of the fact that, given the new weapons that make possible destructions that go beyond the combatant groups, today we should be asking ourselves if it is still licit to admit the very existence of a 'just war'."
One might also wonder how Tony Blair managed to explain to His Holiness that it was his Government which tried to force faith schools in England to open up to accept 25% of pupils from other faith backgrounds -- a move which was strongly, and successfully, opposed by the Catholic church. Similarly, Tony Blair may find himself in a slightly uncomfortable position if the Pope decides to ask him if he doesn't think it slightly odd that he should seek entry to the Roman Catholic faith so soon after his Government created civil partnerships between gay couples and, most recently, ignored the Roman Catholic Church's desperate plea to exempt Roman Catholic adoption agencies from equality laws on gay adoption. More on this at my own blog.
A treasonous filthy lying sleaze bag, how many Laws does this bastard break before someone throws him in Jail.
A "closet Fenian" advising the Crown regarding "CofE appointees" = illegal
If the Bill of Rights is still "in force" then none of these Papists should even be in Parliament and the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 is unlawful anyway (later repealed by the way)...if no one gives a damn then only one way to Change that..it was done in 1600's and needs doing again.
10.13 & 10.15: The only anti this little delicate flower should be is surely the antirrhinum?
Blair will no doubt be an Affirming Catholic - "women at the altar, boys in the bed"
British People: Forgive him Father, for he has sinned. He's gone off and left us with a raving Psycho as stand-in Prime Minister.
Pope: It's the price you Anglicans must pay for using condoms.
(I guess it's one way to keep the wife quiet.)
who cares, He is not a Christian anyway. He's a murderer.
he just uses religion just like he uses everything else.
No one has yet mentioned who is behind this absurd sideshow. Step forward Cherie, the fat Scouser with the ridiculous gob. Just seeing a rerun of her at The Dome on Millenium night singing Old Lang Syne made me realise what a complete loony she really is.
Think about it... Carole Caplin and her nutty therapies, Peter Foster, the conman with his dodgy property deals, the "charity" work where she jets half way round the World to skim of £25 Grand, the freeloading holidays, the greed as she empties the shelves at a clothes store when invited to take a freebie. Its patently obvious, the woman is demented.
On top of that she is married to Blair. A coniving lying conman of the first order. Now, suddenly, in mid life he wants to convert to another religion. This is nonsense of the highest order. The Catholic Church, with all it's weird and wacky rituals, its hang up about sex and promotion of guilt as an excuse for normal human behaviour is really a bonkers religion.
So Blair wants to go there. Do you, do I, give a monkeys?
The sooner this husband and wife tag team, reprentative of all that is wrong with this country, disappears from public view, the better.
Is becoming Catholic the first step to heading up the UN? It would certainly appeal to a lot more people than Protestantism would, and a move like that is vintage Blair.
I love that the Pope might send him back, like you would a plate of bad food. I may have to develop a grudging respect for Pope Rat.
Also, I don't think The Hitch is in purgatory: I've always thought of him as sort of a pagan baby. Well, a pagan baby rapist.
And I say that with the greatest of affection.
From the C of E to the Catholic church I'm amazed anyone believes in any of this medieval rubbish in the 21st century.
"By all means let's be open-minded but not so open-minded that our brains drop out" Dawkins
The only "ultimate power" that bliar realy belives in is the US army and bush,the thought of him beliving the bible and killing 650000 arabs is very worrying (crusades anyone)will he be buried with his legs crossed?.
If bliar was tried and jailed for war crimes the muzzies might shut up too its worth a try at least,same room and rope as saddam would be fair.Pay per view on sky and rupert would coin
it in too.
A Catholic who believes in crystals and gets himself covered in mud so he can be reborn? Fuck off.
He can become a Druid monk for all I care. The incompetent, self serving, deluded twats are going - this is a time of celebration.
The king is dead long live the next set of incompetents.
They only got there in the first place by default of the last batch of inept clowns.
Just be happy that they are going, this is a time of joy.
Could there be a God afterall?
If darwin is right and bruun is the fittest what does this say about the rest of nulab?.Should they not be prevented from breeding or perhaps destroyed
humanely.
Guido,
If you read the original italian you will see that the Vatican's wording is much stronger than a "frank exchange" of views. Contrast is closer to the mark.
Well no-one seems to have picked up on the truth about this.
It is a total PR stunt which Blair has held back as 'safety net'.
He knows he might be prosecuted for war crimes for invading Iraq (his barrister wife says so so this must be right), and he has problems also with Cash for Honours (a far more immediate danger).
Very difficult NOT to have sympathy for a devout Christian who always 'tried to do the right thing' and who has such religious beliefs he is willing to convert to being a Left Footer.
If anyone moves to prosecute Blair they will have the Pope and the UK religious establishment to answer to......
Better than Abramovitch's insurance plan buying Chelsea.....
Wake fucking up !
I see Harman is deputy.
So much for your prediction Guido ...
Another mistake by Guido. Only hope people didn't take his advice and lose money.
I like this site, but you know ... it does rather bear out the sort of criticism that Michael White brings against this sort of blog.
There are far too many unsubstantiated and at times wildly fanciful rumours.
I love anonymous posters. They combine smugness and cowardice in such an amusing manner.
Wit, oratory - and evasion. A master debater at work
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2109981,00.html
Master debater's right.
3:17pm, Ha ha ha, I take it that was satire, no one could be that completely fucking moronic surely!
Very difficult NOT to have sympathy for a devout Christian who always 'tried to do the right thing'
- I wouldn't find it difficult at all. By that standard it is perfectly OK for fundamentalists of any religion to do whatever they like.
"To an even greater extent than his predecessor, Benedict feels that Catholic politicians cannot separate their public lives from their private."
So it would seem that the Roman Catholic Church cannot separate Church from State! Are they sinking into the same quagmire as Islam?
Blair is a lying bastard, a traitor to Britain and a servant of a foreign power. These are all sufficient conditions to become a Roman Catholic.
Blair was a Conservative. Blair is a Catholic. The man is a fake of the highest order. Why did anyone ever trust him? Soon he will be off to the USA to make his millions.
What is really frightening is who are we left with worth voting for...Brown, Cameron, Campbell? We are in trouble!
Benedict to Blair: "Fuck off Blair your not bloody good enough to be a Catholic."
Archibishop of Canterbury: "He's not good enough to be a bloody Anglican either, but he slipped through the early selection process. Cunt"
Anonymous, 9.26 p.m., does it please you to be gratuitously offensive to your fellow-citizens?
Dearie me, you English Tories do use quite a lot of foul and abusive language.
What you lack is a good presbyterian education to teach you how to express a viewpoint within the wide confines of the English Language's vocabulary without resorting to filth.
As someone with just such an education, but now by the grace of God a papist bold and true I tell you solemnly, watch out for the Son of the Manse.
Oh and by the way, both Blair and Brown have some substance. That toryboy, old etonian joker has none.
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