Do You Know Now?
Just in from the Court:
A Metropolitan police security officer, Chris Ham, 21, told the high court in London today that Mr Jones, the MP for Clwyd South for 20 years, swore at him after he "politely" asked to see his pass at Portcullis House in Westminster. Mr Ham, who said he had never seen Mr Jones before the incident, described the outburst as having left him "shocked and flustered".
Giving evidence on behalf of Mail on Sunday publisher Associated Newspapers, Mr Ham said: "His immediate response was to tell me to fuck off and that he was a member of parliament. I again asked politely, persisted. His second response was 'Fuck off, you should know who I am, you don't have the right to question me, you are only security.'"
Who is fucked now?
41 comments:
Isn't it wonderful the way our elected representatives manage to quickly differentiate themselves from the "hoi poloi" who pay their inflated salaries and pensions.
The poor man seems to have been having a "Princess Royal" moment!
Does he sing the same song of an evening, on Clapham Common!
As a serving Policeman I have heard this many times over the years. The best response to `Do you know who I am?` is `Yes, you are a member of the public, same as everyone else.`
Jones the Fucker's case appears to be Fucked by the Fuckeree's evidence. Hope Fuckface is bankrupted by his action.
ID cards nuff said.
I have met many of the inflated ego brigade and my responce has always been, I dont know WHO you are but I have a good idea of WHAT you are! Works every time.
PS
I hope he loses and I hope it destroys him!
Two points:
i) What's a 'Metropolitan police security officer'? I take it that it's someone employed on the cheap?
ii) If the 'incident' left the officer 'shocked and flustered', shouldn't everyone around PoW be concerned that it doesn't take much to throw their security arrangements in to disarray? If anyone's fucked, it's them.
He has clearly lost his marbles. The MOS will wipe him out. Can we whip up a deselection campaign?
Ham, thats a good name for a cop.
What's a 'Metropolitan police security officer'?
A Met police officer who is posted to Parliament security?
If only he'd asked him in Welsh for ID.
"Do you know who I am?"
"No, Sir, but I can get someone to find out for you".
MP
Don't you know who I am?
Callow Youth
You're the third one to cum in my mouth today.
I surprised this is the best story you can come up with - surely you could get David Hart's former "bag carrier" to comment on his involvement in the BAE affair see
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/engineering/article1914426.ece
or is that a little too close to home
So did PC Ham sell a story of some everyday "don't-you-know-who-I-am-mery" to the MoS? Are lowly coppers allowed to blab their day to day runnings with members of the public to the papers? Seems a bit off that.
Ed lamented...
What's a 'Metropolitan police security officer'?
A Met police officer who is posted to Parliament security?
Surely that would just be a 'Metropolitan Police officer'?
tbngu,
Blog it yourself. Oh I forgot, you're a cowardly NuLab cunt who's too shit scared to put his puny head over the parapet. Fuck off and die mong!
A pig named Ham - sorry couldn't resist.
It is definitley a Princess Anne moment!
Odd that a police officer would call himself a "Metropolitan police security officer". More likely Mr Ham is a bog-standard security officer who fantasises of being a police officer and longs for promotion to the Group 4 dog-handling section. As it is, poor bugger must have a hell of a time having to run his scanner over Broons privates every time the gibbering bogeythruster deigns to make an appearance.
I would hope that a 'normal' police officer would had had that odious Welsh git (Jones, not Kinnock) down on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back and a taser on his balls before he had even stopped saying "you should know who I am", with the response "sorry sir, didn't see that you're a non-entity - I thought you might be someone important like a bow-tied Welsh terrorist prat."
Completely off topic you, Guido, apparently have the 84th most popular website in...
Cambodia.
Do they only allow access to 84?
Julian -
The Palace of Westminster (Commons and Lords) is responsible for its own security, but invites the Met in to help.
If this herbert has really sold his story to the Mail on Sunday, I doubt he can be expecting many postings to Portcullis House from now on.
He was giving evidence on oath, I take it.
How much did the Mail pay for his story? And are they still paying him?
Chris Paul 7.58 'did PC Ham sell his story....'
It could of course have been that PC Ham simply complained about being spoken to like a piece of shit by this pompous fucking no mark. He could have taken the Prescott approach and punched the cunt in the mouth.
Am I right in thinking that if Mr Jones loses, the MoS 'costs' will be doubled by their lawyers as a 'success fee' kicks in ?
This was common practice by Peter Carter-Fuck and Partners, but I don't know if it would still apply..
I can't see Mr Jones seeing much change from a hundred grand meself..
I came over distinctly queasy when I read this:
Few doubt Mr Brown's intelligence, strategic brilliance or moral determination. "He really does wake up every morning thinking: how can I make the world a better place?" says a friend.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=5DXTN1A1E4AETQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/06/12/nbrown112.xml&page=1
Why would someone go to court knowing what the witness would say? Is he just throwing his money away???
Many a long year ago, I was standing in the foyer of the local British embassy waiting for a mate to emerge from within. The only other person in that area was the security guard cum receptionist, so we got chatting. He told me his name was (let's call him) Jimmy from Glasgow. He had a very short crew cut, was an ex-Royal Marine who had done his stint and was now looking for a quieter life. So he had joined the foreign office security branch and had been sent to that embassy. He had been in town for just over a week. As we were talking the front door opened and a very tall thin man dressed in pin stripes and a full length black overcoat entered and made his way towards the lifts.
"Oi! Where do you think you're going?" said Jimmy.
The man stopped and came across to Jimmy's desk. He placed his knuckles firmly on the table and glowering at Jimmy said: "What did you say?"
"I asked you where you thought you were going", said Jimmy firmly.
The man leaned over and staring straight into Jimmy's eyes said, very slowly: "Do...you...not...know...who...I...am?
Jimmy looked straight back at him and replied at the same speed: "I...do...not... know...you...from...Adam".
The man withdrew his face and pulling himself up to his not inconsiderable height (well over 6 feet) said: "I am the deputy head of this embassy and it is time that you indians learned to recognise the chiefs around here".
Jimmy pulled himself up to his 5'8" or thereabouts and said: "Good. In that case you will be in possession of the appropriate security pass which my orders require me to scrutinise before allowing you any further into this building. Failure to produce said card will result in my having to note the fact in my security log-book. Furthermore, I shall then be required to telephone Mr {..X..} to come down from his office to verify to my satisfaction that you are indeed who you claim to be. Now, your security pass, please".
The man was rather gobsmacked, but after a few seconds retreated a pace or two and reached into his jacket pocket and took out his wallet from which he extracted a laminated card. Jimmy took it and spent a good 10 seconds thoroughly scrutinising both sides. Satisfied he handed it back saying: "Thank you. You may proceed. Have a nice day".
When the man had gone, I asked Jimmy if he really had not known who that man was. As the No 2 in the embassy, he must have been a very senior officer.
Jimmy replied:" Of course I knew who he was. He is an arrogant, pompous toss-pot and if the unimportant little squaw-esses in the typing pool have to show their passes to get in and out, I see no reason why Geronimo and his mates on the top floor should not do likewise!".
Jimmy and I subsequently became good friends.
PS: Forgot to add, my word verification for that was: fakyu.
Got that right then!
New Labour's next bit of PC social engineering is in the pipeline: a ban on all-white juries.
"What remains to be answered is whether all-white juries, which decide a large proportion of jury cases in this country, also do not discriminate against defendants based on race."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6746221.stm
Mr Jones doesn't like to repeat himself, does he?
What a king-sized twat the Right-Honorable Jones is! I mean, what can he say now? The MoS have got their eye witness to fess up under oath so the libel case is now in shreds.
I wonder if he is a complete mental case and will come out with some delusional rant in court about how it is all a conspiracy and Ham wasn't the office on duty or some such. Surely he would have been better off keeping this as quiet as possible? Can't imagine the MoS is that popular in Clwyd.
There is a popular blog called 'Guy Fawkes' with a potted history at the top, and every single year there is a huge public festival to remind the buggers in the HoC that somebody tried to kill the lot of them, and that even in quite recent history that can happen to an MP.
What do we find? A fool tries to weaken his own security and, what's more, the security of everyone around him.
Then, when it emerges that he has done such a thing, instead of keeping very quiet and waiting for his insignificance to make the issue no more than a teeny footnote in the interweb, and maybe not even that, he rushes off to the libel courts where it is guaranteed this pillockry will be magnifed a thousandfold. At his great personal expense.
It would be too delicious to find he manages to perjure himself too, and escalates himself in to a criminal case.
An only right and proper, who do these rozzers think they are? they have no right to stop self important MP's, and deserve to be ripped of a strip when they get ideas above their station, damn servants, not even civil, don't know their place, and who says these swine can give evidence against an MP, my word is holy and honest, how dare I be contradicted by some oik in a uniform, needs to sacked and the press thrashed for their inpertinence. Humph, humph. gin please, a large one, come one make it snappy, damn working class.
mitch 6:20pm
ID cards nuff said.
He can sleep happy in the knowledge that Al Quaeda have no ID card system, but can almost certainly recognize him and every other MP by their faces.
According to TheyWorkForYou
"People have made 1 comment on this MP's speeches — below average amongst MPs."
So at least one person knows who he is. But possibly not more than one.
Anon 11:57
That 'one' might be his mum?
(my word verification .. mum g f!)
And who said:
What is your proudest achievement since the 2001 general election?
Creating the first Eurozone in my constituency during the Llangollen International Eisteddfod.
Twat or what?
"Odd that a police officer would call himself a "Metropolitan police security officer"."
That's what it says on the badges on their uniforms so not odd at all.
He's won £5,000 and beat his offer to settle.
He and Carter-Ruck will be very happy people.
Looks as if Jones has won £5000 in tax free damages. Will AN appeal?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6753947.stm
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