Punters Back Reid to Run
As the dire electoral performance drives home to the less lemming-like members of the Labour party the actual value of Gordon, money has shifted over to Reid on Betfair. The graph shows how the price has come in over the last five days. Guido is frankly not convinced that Reid is willing to do battle with the dark forces.Guido still has a few quid on John Hutton just in case he tries a Kamikaze battle of "ideas" with the man he said "would make a fucking useless PM". 300/1 seems fair...
UPDATE : Don't bother with Hutton - he has given an interview to GMTV for broadcast tomorrow where he bends the knee and pledges allegiance to Gordon.
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With Brown still in hiding and reported to be showing signs of "cracking up" after the election debacle there is still all to play for in the leadership contest.
Now this crowd of muffins have had their cumuppance ,I waiting to see if the Old Labour ones are brave enough to take back power ,otherwise if they let these people carry on ,it will be bye bye labour.
What are the odds on El Gordo having an "episode" in the next few years due to the "flaws" Ali Campbell talked about so much.....
Somebody must run against Gordon.
He's supposed to be the next PM and Labour leader, yet instead of rallying his troops Gordon has vanished.
Prime Ministers cannot go into hiding whenever it suits them, they are there to represent their country through thick and thin, through good times and bad. Gordon's regular disappearing tricks show how unsuited to the job he really is.
Reid won't run
Ming will continue until the election
end of
tamburlaine has it. I just came to post exactly the same comment about Reid.
He's got the choice of staying as home secretary under Brown or challenging him, losing, and ending up on the backbenches. Hard choice.
It's not in the bag for Brown
As the hours tick by Gordon is committing political suicide.
All those people who worked for him during the election. All those in the cabinet who will support him. All those people who have put faith in him to take over their party. All those people in the Country who will rely on him.
The first hour after an accident are the most important. It's now 24 hours and not a squeak.
He is incapacitated by something that Tony Blair can just shrug off.
Incapacitated by a heart attack, nervous breakdown, blind drunk or fear? It matters not in their hour of need Gordon isn't there.
The irony is that Labour know Gordon is a vote loser and can't do **** all about it .The more Gordon keeps having to boost his image in Scotland to counter SNP agitation, the more his image will suffer with voters in Middle England who already hate his guts for losing them their pensions . The scenario of a Scottish Prime Minister who represents a Scottish Constituency passing laws ,with the help of the Scottish "Block Vote" ,that will only affect the "Auld Enemy" is not gonna play well south of the border.
If I were a betting person, I'd say we're all going to be left looking a bit daft and embarrased after the weekend.
My suspicion is that GB will reappear at A&E, after a blue-lights mercy dash with his wee'un, and everyone will go "ahww....."
That the BBC and SKY are not shouting "WHERE IS GORDON"
"WHERE IS GORDON"
"WHERE IS GORDON"
"WHERE IS GORDON"
"WHERE IS GORDON"
Shows you that something VERY SERIOUS is happening.
Money on Reid is money well spent.
What I don't understand is there is some positive news in Scotland for Labour. The gap in the polls closed dramatically.
Why isn't Gordon saying we are disappointed but we closed a huge gap and are only down to one seat.
Not coming out to thank the Scottish Labour foot-soliders and his lack of gratitude today means that nobody in their right mind is going to want to help him out of a losing situation because he won't thank them.
Gracious in defeat? His behaviour just reinforces the odds that he is psychologically flawed.
He has been incapacitated by suicide, break-down, a heart attack, nervous break-down or worst of all simple fear.
Meacher (the man) makes hay whilst Gordon is incapacitated.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL0554636120070505
Just on the news here, Brown found unconscious with his wrists slashed!
Ratty, was a former Forum journalist seen nearby?
LOL Brown MIA for over 24 hours and
Reid @ 40-1 Miliband @36-1
£100 buys you a very nice holiday.
javelin
Incapacitated by a heart attack, nervous breakdown, blind drunk or fear? It matters not in their hour of need Gordon isn't there.
I saw him down the clinic last night mate
when the big baby realized his campaign had been an utterly disgraceful shambles
he went on a supermanic mucus binge and OD'd on a particularly potent form called snottish wipe-out
he's gonna be in detox for a few days minimum, i hear
i said i could get hold of some charlie for him, but he's only interested in highest-grade uncut bogey
he's even started to backsnort it direct into his system
quite sickening to observe actually
and man...coz he's already trashed the entire UK budget importing green from desperately impoverished places like Bogata,
he's now had to resnort to blowing libdem mps on hampstead heath just to raise enough dough to feed this fucking bad habit of his
and he's even sold his prized collection of antique figurines sculpted from early Roman earwax
he's a broken man
and there's fears he could end p getting into the 'crack'
and say what...much as i despise his politics...on a personal level, i feel real sorry for the poor sad cunt.
The whole sordid experience brought home to me just how lucky i really am.
I said some weeks back that Brown would never make PM, after the outcome of the locals. My take is that the only way to get out of their hole is for the Labour Party to go for a safe pair of hands as caretaker PM, while the young guns are given 18-24 months to do an extended interview with the party and the people. A sort of "PM Idol" - a format so loved by the chavs.
So who is my money on as the next PM? Jack Straw...
Prescott?
Well...
Even the Beeb, in one of their statements (which quite rightly made Iain Dale weep), had to admit that Gordon was nowhere to be seen, to 'let Blair take the flak one more time...'
I wonder how many others he will hide behind when he has to begin his next job.
This is indeed a frightening prospect, such a weak man becoming an even weaker leader.
Glad to see you finally picked up and ran with my comment on Reid's odds on Betfair almost a whole 14 hours after I posted it:
Where's Gordon thread at 10:23 PM, May 04, 2007 .
Out blogged on your own blog site -come on Guido keep up man. You didn't even stay up all night like Dale did!
If Brown wanted to prevent his party from being torn apart by a contest and subsequent score-settling or by the whispering campaign which would follow a coronation he would announce that while he would quite like the job, in the interests of the party he is not going to stand.
That sort of surprise would allow the party to unite behind whoever won the contest and get them a hell of a lot of favourable press.
But he won't, of course, because he is a manic-depressive megalomaniac.
Don't be mad. Reid going for the top job? He appeared on the BBC on election night and therefore is too closely associated with the Labour Party. Gord, on the other hand...
... and Bush drop dead so we get Cheyney, Reid and Sarkozy.
Gordon is as good as gone. Anyone who thinks anything else is living in cloud cuckoo land.
No one at the Beeb or Sky is door-stepping him - always a sure sign they know something.
Clarke ain't standing because Gordon won't be standing.
I'm going to have another £30 on Reid at 38-1
Rumours are strengthening within certain Labour Party circles that Brown has taken the election debacle very badly and is undergoing some sort of breakdown up in his home in Fife.
If he can't pull himself together soon then my money's on Jack Straw to take over from Tony as a sort of "unity candidate".
However, some of these doctors can work wonders these days with the old magic pills so I wouldn't be surprised to see Brown's cheesy grin back on telly next week but watch for a strange, faraway look in his eye(s).
How long they can prop him up for before his next serious depressive episode though, is anybody's guess.
Brown's usual strategy at a time like this is to record a soft interview with Patsy Marr on Saturday evening to appear on TV on Sunday morning after 8 hours of careful editing to make him look statesmanlike.
It is pleasing to be able, just for a change, to be able make money from politicians instead of having them lift it from your wallet. This pastime also reduces them to the status of horseflesh (possibly doped or otherwise got at), another plus. Haven't had so much fun & profit since the betting frenzy on old Ratzinger.
When BLIAR said the other day-
"in all probability a scot will be the next prime minister" everyone thought he meant Gordon(wrist slasher)Brown! But he actualy meant John(head butt)Reid! Oh I get it now and it ALL makes sense.
All those who tipped Reid must be satisfied!
Reid doesn't have the backup at Westminster, so even if he won it, it would be a Pyrrhic victory, and he'd be battling his own side all the time.
Jack Straw would be another John Major and would bore the electorate to death within 3 months.
Brown would be a disaster both for Labour and the country.
Things can only get better!
Oh, and off topic, anyone notice that the Director of IT at the Dept of Health referred to all those of us who object to having all our personal details on Govt files as "privacy fascists"?
This is the true face of NuLab Govt.
Brown is chronically unable to deal with any opposition whatsoever. He either uses bully boy tactics to crush it or, if unable to do that, he runs away and hides. Classic bully behaviour.
If someone with an ounce of substance stood up and took him on in the leadership contest then Brown would crack up completely.
After his pathetic disappearance since the election failure I wouldn't be surprised to see the Blairite's renew their efforts to stop Brown taking over.
Stand up to a bully like Brown and you will beat him.
Where is McBroon actually - I mean joking aside... is he dead?
"Stand up to a bully like Brown and you will beat him. "
even if you're a bigger bully like John Reid?
Anonymous 4:22 PM, said...
Somebody must run against Gordon.
Yes, Blair should run. He'd win against Brown.
A counter-view...
Brown isn't PM yet. Why should he waste energy on things now, when he hasn't got control for another two months? He's biding his time. No elections for ages. The hero always turns up in time and saves the day in the final reel. 'Make 'em wait for it'...Sure, the SNP won by a seat. Let them explain to their activists how they'll manage to get a referendum bill through a parliament with a huge majority against it. Salmond may not even be able to form a government.
As Michael Winner might say: "Calm down, dear, it's only a narrow SNP victory with no majority..."
If brown is so useless, why did Blair staple himself to him during the '05 election? if he's so useless, why do so many self-interested Labour MPs support him? False consciousness? If he's such a paper tiger, why has no-one of any substance run aginst him? if he's so useless, why did he destroy Osborne in the Commons a few weeks ago, and wing Ken Clarke in the same debate?
I'm not necessarily speaking in his favour, but before you posters get high on your own supply of rhetoric, answer those questions first, candidly.
UPDATE :Don't bother with Hutton - he has given an interview to GMTV for broadcast tomorrow where he bends the knee and pledges allegiance to Gordon.
He'll still get killed. I don't forget, or forgive. No prisoners taken in this hoose.
Gordon Brown isn't the only one to have gone missing these past couple of days.
Nick Robinson's blog has tumbleweed blowing through it.
Brown is useless in debates, can't take criticism, can't tolerate opposition, bullies, manipulates, is sly, underhand and cowardly and surrounds himself with a small coterie of sycophants willing to do his dirty work.
He creates the myth of a strong economy by inflating the money supply by 14%pa, increases Govt borrowing and taxation to record levels, Govt spending to record levels, Govt debt to record levels, record trade deficit, record consumer debt. The UK economy is creaking and will soon be falling apart at the seams but Brown hopes to be in No. 10 by then and his successor will have to explain the economic meltdown.
That's if poor, fragile, Gordon hasn't completely cracked up by then like most self-obsessed, deranged contol freaks end up doing.
Why exchange Goring for Himmler?
The consequence will be the same only the personal habits will change.
The Scotish devil you know, that eats his nose, robs your pocket and lies though his rotten teeth.
Is just as bad as a brutish fascist Scotish bully boy devil, that you dont know enough about YET.
However one things for sure.
All socialists, National or otherwise, only have socialist solutions to offer. Which all sane people should know, dont work and are not intended to work in the long run.
The whole idear of socialism is the eventual destruction of free market capitalism. The only debate socialists have is the method and speed of that destruction.
Less then 3 months after Tony Blair leaves. Even the unemployable will be begging for him to come back and save them.
The longer this goes on the worse it seems. Why aren't sky and the bbc clamouring for an interview or asking why he's disappeared ? What a useless emasculated press we now have . They aren't acting on our behalf covering for Brown like this.
The press corps' craven failure to pursue Brown's disappearance is shameful. Soemone so ambitious doesn't deserve this pathetic and gutless reverence and collusion.
10-1 on gordon new leader ............1-1fav hung parliment next general election. 2-1 7% bank rate. 3-1 6% inflation.
the Macavity label is starting to stick
The would-be prime minister retired to bed at midnight and kept a low profile on Friday. Critics said he was doing his “Macavity act”, disappearing from view when the going got tough.
Nick Robinson's blog has tumbleweed blowing through it.
That's cos he's had to travel to Scotland to try and console the dour one.
It is starting to look like a sort of political car crash for Labour.They are afraid to criticise GB and are bound to elect him whilst they all know he is not up to the leadership of the country and does not play at all well with the electorate.I don't understand their MP's in marginals.Turkeys voting for an early Christmas,I'd say.
Might Broon merely have taken a short palate-cleansing break without the family, maybe one of the Mark Warner resorts?
JOIN THE PROTEST AGAINST GORDON BROWN IN BRIGHTON MAY 13th.
(That's if he has the bottle to show his face)
The date: Sunday 13th May
The time: 2.30pm
The place: Outside the Brighton Dome Concert Hall, Church Street, Brighton
Frustrated first time buyers are organising a protest in order to highlight the housing affordability crisis that is gripping the nation.
Organised by Priced Out, a web-based campaign group for affordable house prices, the protest aims to highlight the negative impacts of high house prices in 'property hotspots' such as Brighton...
Why are we taking our protest to Gordon Brown?
'I will not allow house prices to get out of control and put at risk the sustainability of the recovery.' - Gordon Brown in 1997 Budget Speech..
"Despite the Chancellor's stated intention to keep a tight rein on house prices, they have trebled during his tenure. According to the Halifax, prices are now unaffordable for first time buyers in 75% of UK towns; the situation in Brighton is particularly bad....
http://firstrung.co.uk/articles.asp?pageid=NEWS&articlekey=4875
Don't worry about Brown. Pretty soon he is going to become even more of a pariah than he already is when the inevitable house price crash comes and Brown's hollowed-out shell of a debt fuelled ponzi scheme goes into meltdown.
When the braindead, infantile masses realise how he has tricked them, Gay Gordon will be lucky to avoid the Mussolini route to Hell.
Even his former allies in the Observer now recognise the disaster just around the corner:
"The crash is coming and it could be soon"
The Bank of England must act decisively and swiftly to curb the current house price madness
Will Hutton
Sunday May 6, 2007
The Observer......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2073607,00.html
didn't that idiot pascoe watson at the Sun say Clarke was going to stand just a couple of days ago? What an idiot!
This just in from Beebland:
Mr Blair, who is expected to announce his resignation next week, insists Labour can bounce back from Thursday's heavy defeats at the polls.
Heavy defeat eh? Always first with the news at Beebland.
Its the first Sunday after an election that the Conservatives in England won by a landslide.....yet the NuLab BBC chose to interview a candiddate for the labour premiership, and one for the deputy premiership. No interview with a Tory in sight.
Why I wonder?
Is there anyone out there with a few pennies spare to take the BBC to a judicial review as to whether they are breaching their charter?
Sunday morning still no sign of Dr Brown Love.
He is currently in hiding and assessing whether he can survive any kiss and tell stories from his weakened position.
javelin - the peasants are trimming the lawn, a cuckoo calls from the olive groves, the Weekend Telegraph lies open on my knees, Woody the world's smelliest cocker spaniel sits expectantly at my feet, and some fine chilled prosecco awaits me in the fridge. You, however, have intruded on the wonderful, rare tranquility of this scene and ruined it with a gross and hideous image now occupying my mind - that of Brown assuming a "weakened position" in some dark Travelodge off the M1.
Prepare for a night of the long knives at the BBC after the Tories win the next election.
Day three since NuLab's electoral disaster and still no sign of Gordon
Just heard Reid say, on BBC Politics show, he will not contest the leadership election and will join the back benches where he will support Brown when he takes over.
The pressure has got to him, he is going. This of course could be a bury bad news ploy.
If Brown is denied the leadership he will de-stabilise the party for a generation and possibly kill it. If he's made leader and f*cks up (which he will within a couple of years) he'll have no grievance and no support.
Ergo, pain for 2 years and a defeat is a price worth paying to resolve the Brown dilemma once and for all. There is method in their madness.
Profile in Courage Gordy Brown still missing? Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch that about the value of 'not being seen'. What a slimy coward. Good to see our brave press are on the case.
Reid just announced he won't stand. Good prediction from Guido only 24 hours before to fill your boots with him.
Mitch - do you have reading difficulties? "Guido is frankly not convinced that Reid is willing to do battle with the dark forces." Which is rather the opposite of "fill yer boots" is it not?
Guido made enough money on shorting Reid to cover (and some) what what he lost on Hutton.
Mitch
With Brown MIA and at 40-1 Reid was a very good bet yesterday.
Reid announcing that he's quiting the Cabinet must mean Brown still intends to stand.
When is someone going to ask him where he's been?
Prepare for a night of the long knives at the BBC.
Yes; but most not coming from DC or CCO. Most of them will be acts of suicide for "allowing" such an "evil and sick" thing to take place again, like back in 79.
In 75 the prolls took over the Conservative party, and she with much help of said prolls made this country half great again. Only game in town now left is.
Does some young Eton boy toff have the luck, the balls and the mind to at least try to finish the job?
I honestly dont know the answer to that question any better then anyone else does. However even if he does, whether there is enough prolls left in Britain that give a sod by then? Is another question.
judith 9:10pm off topic
Usual NuLab tactic of smearing and demonising anyone who dares disagree with their 'policies', which are invariably hatched in private cabals of the likely profiteers and never discussed with anyone actually qualified or affected by them in case the profit/rip-off opportunity be diluted, how a patient expecting confidentiality or personal security or a doctor objecting to an expensive waste of time they didn't ask for and violates their professional ethics on top can be a 'privacy fascist' I dunno.
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