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Thursday, May 31, 2007

Myners Infraction or Cover-Up?

Back in February this year Guido was pressing for explanations as to the Smith Institute's use of No. 11 Downing Street. The fact that the charity seemed to have only one beneficiary - Gordon Brown - meant that it was not only breaking the rules against political activity by a charity, it was actually functioning as a factional powerbase for Brownites. The staff and trustees were all allies of the Chancellor.

Political opponents in parliament had tabled parliamentary question after parliamentary question, all were met with stonewalling by the Treasury. Freedom of Information requests were ignored and went unanswered. Then came a breakthrough, the revelation that at a private meeting of the Smith Institute, attended by long list of Brownite allies in the media and the Labour party, the U.S. pollster Bob Shrum had advised on a strategy to defeat David Cameron's Conservatives based on his experience fighting the Republican party. The speech transcript was proof that the allegations were well founded.

Guido made a formal complaint under Section 8 of the Charities Act. The Charity Commission indicated that it would consider taking action. It leaked out before the official announcement was made that they would commence a formal inquiry. This led to a flurry of activity at the Smith Institute and HM Treasury. Their response was transparently choreographed in the knowledge that a statutory inquiry under the Charities Act would bring previously suppressed documents and information into the public domain.

After months of pressure it was suddenly revealed that nearly two hundred meetings had been held by the Smith Institute (free of charge) at No. 11 Downing Street with the permission of the Chancellor. Guido had been alleging that the use of the building effectively amounted to a subsidy of the Smith Institute's activities by HM Treasury. It was literally an abuse of office in all senses of the word.

In those circumstances if it were to be revealed that the Treasury had made direct payments to the Smith Institute, Gordon Brown's political front group, it would have been extremely damaging. The charge against Brown that he was corruptly financing his political ambitions would be hard to defend.

Amazingly a letter dated February 1, 2007, and written by Paul Myners was produced to explain away just such a payment. Myners is a Smith Institute trustee, a Treasury appointed veteran of various Gordon created quangos, who is considered a safe pair of hands by Brownites. He is also a wealthy donor to Gordon's leadership campaign.

It explained that two years previously the Treasury had paid the Smith Institute £11,750 to hold two seminars on behalf of the Myners Review into the financial sector for Gordon. It went on to claim (without explanation) that the Treasury had paid the money by mistake. That it was always Myners' intention to pay the cost himself. That he had now, over two years later, paid the sum personally.

If the Charity Commission investigation was not going to bring knowledge of this payment into the public domain, there is no doubt that the Treasury payment to the Smith Institute would have been kept well hidden with no danger of it being discovered or repaid.

The Myners letter is here. The explanations given by Myners are frankly incredible. He is expecting us to believe that the Smith Institute accidentally invoiced HM Treasury and that HM Treasury accidentally paid the invoice. We are asked to believe that suddenly two years later he decided to pay the bill having told his "team that I would be happy to personally contribute some or all of the costs of the seminars". But he didn't actually do it at the time, did he?

Why the Two Year Interval?

Could it be that the imminent and inevitable exposure of the payment by HM Treasury to the Smith Institute during the course of the Charity Commission's investigation was the real and only reason the payment was now refunded by Myners to the Treasury? It was a plain and simple cover up - long after the event - by Myners to help his friend Gordon Brown out of a politically difficult situation.

90 comments:

brown stain said...

Corrupt. Well done Guido. Will Gordon go awol now? How many lives does a McCavity have?

Anonymous said...

A letter without a letter-heading; no role description below Myners signauture - could it have been drafted for him and eagerly awaited?

What a distasteful politcal leadership we now have.

Will the BBC make any reference to this??!!

Mynerbird Muncher said...

Hope you sent this to Rebekah, she'd love to have a go at Brown on Cherie/Tony's behalf.

G Eagle Esq said...

Dear Guido

Very interessant

Perhaps we can have an explanation as to :

1. how and why Mrs Leathers came to be appointed as Chairman of the Charity Commission

2. What her role she has or has had as a functionary in the Labour Party

3. whether any role she may have had in the Labour Party might cause or be perceived as potentially causing any conflict of interest with her role as Chairman of the Charity Commission in its investigation of a matter which might involve Mr Brown, the future Leader of th Labour Party

Ypour obedient servant etc

G Eagle

oscar said...

Lets hope the press give this the coverage it deserves!
Well done again Guido,keep up the bloody marvellous work!!!

amateurs are us said...

...should be an interesting audit trail - purchase requisition from the treasury - who signed off on it? invoice for payment - who subsequently authorised payment? If there was no purchase requisition, why was an invoice subsequently paid?

Have the treasury received Credit Notes from SI, and SI refunded the sum back to the Treasury?

Copies of entries on relevant credits/debits on bank statements please.

Presumeably Myners has now paid the £11,750 and included VAT to SI events?

What does he mean here We were allocated a set budget for the Review at the outset. I told my team that I would be happy to personally contribute some or all of the costs of the seminars organised by SI events ltd

So who told SI Events to send the bill to the Treasury, if he had told his team he was meeting the costs?

This is an amateurish attempt at a cover-up.

Who typed the initial draft of this letter Macpherson or Myners - it looks hastily arranged.

Anonymous said...

Guido
more power to your elbow. Brown is a nasty, spiteful, vile and hopelessly incompetent individual. He is a corrupt liar in the true Bliar style and is unfit for office. You have the complete support of all sensible people who are appalled by the quality of individuals in high office.

Brown MUST be brought down before he destroys the country but it is the myth of economic genius that you must attack. The country is bust, the finances are destroyed and he is solely responsible. Go for him because you are right and he is a very scary person who should be in an institution somewhere.

mitch said...

Why doesnt cameron ask these questions? surely he wants to win and be PM but to watch him you would think he works for brown.Even the libdums could ask but they want a hung parliament and a couple of seats
at the trough so scrub them.This leaves UKIP and the BNP to fight our corner and that is truly fucking sad.Gordo is there with his chin out and Cameron cant/wont make a fist clunking or otherwise.

Englishman Abroad said...

Good on you Guido.
You deserve a knighthood (for free!)

Anonymous said...

Go for it Guido!!!

By the standards of normal decent people these horribly corrupt individuals are CRIMINALS. They have managed to get away with it by hiding behind the magic cloak of politics and business which they seem to think makes their CRIMINAL actions perfectly legitimate and acceptable.

Well it's not - and a lot of people are beginning to notice just how SLEAZY,BENT & CROOKED they are!

Bring it on, and bring them down.

mitch said...

Why is bruun being refered to as Prime Minister "ELECT" by fucking who ?.

livingnext2romanians said...

The Beeboids are having a field day over Camerons problems

Anonymous said...

Well done. But sadly the invoicing of seminar rooms isn't going to attract much attention but it's proof of the cronyism within the Brown entourage. Whilst Blair would be weak at the knees in front of business leaders, Brown's tapping them up for cash and rewarding them with quango seats and committee chairs.

english democrat said...

Well done that man!

You are shining a light in the dark corners of the cesspit called NULAB!
I do not expect that the socialist broadcasting corporation(BBC) will run this though and the regime commisars will not be pleased at your findings! This kind of thing and much worse is now all too common in the perverted world of NULAB.
PFI is going to be a big story when it disovered just how many commisars have made lots of money by this scam!
One small tip for you and that is DICKENS WORLD, there is a scam going on here and some well known commisars have got their fingers in the pie ie jobs for the boys and kickbacks Etc. They say its done with private money BUT how much came from the NL fund and as its in a regeneration area how much did the taxpayer stump up? I am sure it will fold with massive losses as have many such schemes using taxpayers money to fund fat paychecks for said commisars and chums.

Anonymous said...

When caught stealing, Labour types offer to repay or return said stolen goods.

In criminal law, this is not acceptable.

A new government would be free to ensure criminal investigations are properly investigated.

angry man said...

Mitch said at 7.44 "Why doesnt cameron ask these questions?"

Cause he's up to his arse in it as well. Not the Smith Institute, but dodgy loans, you scratch my back and I'll help you get government contracts when I'm PM sort of stuff. Bastards. The lot of them!

Anonymous said...

What an utterly astonishing letter.

We are expected to believe that this man is a financial guru, a senior financial figure - past Chairman of Gartmore, Head of the Myners Commission and God knows what else - yet he apparently can't manage his own Bank Account properly.

I can accept that Paul and Mr. Broon's other hangers on are corrupt trolls, but I don't like the way they treat us as if we are stupid.

JohnfromCamberley said...

"amateurs are us" is quite right to mention a purchase requisition.

Having worked in public departments for three decades, I can tell you that a payment of this kind will definitely be associated with a requisition. It is possible that the requisition will post-date the seminars (that is a minor breach of procedure), but certainly not the payments. It should show the authorising officer, the requisitioner and a "case", justifying why the Treasury should make the purchase. It is also an accountable document (as is the invoice) and should have been archived, not destroyed or disposed of. Any kind of audit process would expect to match a payment to a requisition. The invoise from SI will also reference the requisition. Whoever was the budget owner would expect to be accused of fraud if he couldn't provide the paperwork.

If there isn't a requisition, if it genuinely doesn't exist, then the Treasury is operating a slush fund completely outside government accounting rules.

I should have thought that a FOI request for the requisition and invoice might be productive.

Sorry to be boring, but then public accounting is boring, repetitive and procedural. Bending the rules should stick out like the proverbial sore thumb.

Tuscan Tony said...

Fair to describe this as a GOTCHA! moment.

It goes without saying that there's as much chance of a response to this as there is of Alex Salmond's TV viewing tonight being interrupted by a friendly call from cro-Kircaldy "man".

Well done, Sir, hope you treat yourself to a well-deserved bott of Bolly.

garypowell said...

angry man
You may be right but that never stopped the BBC and its political wing the Labour party back in the 80-90s so I think there is a far more logical explanation.

Mudd or in this governments case rancid socialist corrupt bullshit cant stick without the BBC being on side or at least not actively plotting against you and your party. Exposing all the scams in the world will not get Cameron elected. But a smileing new optimistic face and an economic downturn may well do the trick, however much the BBC tries to missguide the public.

If Cameron does not throw even small stones the BBC cant attempt to throw maybe ficticious mountain sized rocks back at him.

The public in general just want an easy life. They dont need or want to here or see politicians biting holes in each other everyday. It will likely remind them of the seventies, and no one wants to go back to those days, however much they may dislike the present government.

Tuscan Tony said...

..oh, and awaiting with bated breath Chris Paul bounding up with a simple explanation of this misunderstanding.

I could do with a good belly-laugh right now.

Gareth said...

johnfromcamberley is entirely correct. Not one finance officer in any government department would pay a bill without seeing the attendant purchase order and qualifying business case, it just never, ever happens. QED

Zastrozzi said...

'We show them that just as they try to herd us back into cages of quiet mediocrity, we can chase them back to hell with the truth..'

Well done Guido. I suppose we should expect little else from a government that imposes freedom of information requirements on its staff from which it exempts itself; from a government which has reduced the standing of democracy in the Mother of Parliaments that (I'm sure I remember this from a year or so ago) international observers expressed concern that the electoral process as it applied to the UK could no longer be considered safe and reliable...?

What's truly sickening is the contempt.

Anonymous said...

Johnfromcamberley
I dont know quite how relevant this is but is not vat paid on invoices and then claimed back from the customs and excise in the case of a charity at the rate of 100%?

There must be records reconcilled by the vat returns that can not be changed retrospectivly, however much someone may want to do so.

Also are these matters subject to a P11D, if not why not? As every small business is now having to sign one of these pesky forms every year thanks to Gordon Brown himself.

Praguetory said...

Absolute nil response from Labour apologists. Guido, I think you have scored a direct hit.

Anonymous said...

WELL DONE FAWKES.

You are now back on TOP FORM doing what you do best. Not only exposing corruption in Government but complicity in our press.

idle said...

Go get 'em, Floyd.

Fawkes, returning fresh from a Guinness convention that happily coincided with the Bogtrotters' Election, puts a decent size bomb into the hull of the SS Broon. Let's hope it blows up.

CityUnslicker said...

seems like a good lead here Guidoo. I hope for a wider audience to see what the bastards as up to again.

Lord Cashcroft said...

As we say in the Cashcroft household....you're on the money!

labourmong news watch said...

Paxman almost blew a fuse trying to make Willetts look stupid in an 'answer the question' moment on schools policy, from the rage on display you'd have guessed Willetts had been molesting women, lying to parliament or selling peerages. Unfortunately Willetts' position was perfectly consistent and he'd already answered the question 2 or 3 times by the time he obligingly spelt it out using very short words. Just another day at the world's greatest impartial quality news organisation.

McCavity absconds once more said...

Gordon's a flight risk...

Anonymous said...

hmmm so the document was just converted to a PDF on 1st March 2007 (or if US date format January 3rd 2007) and not typed up then or am I being pedantic looking at the document properties in Adobe Reader..oh look no author info either..beeezzzaaarrreee.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it convenient that Panorama has now been dumbed down, and prefers to present bollocks scare stories about WiFi drummed up by some bloke who sells tin foil hats for a living, instead of skewering corrupt politicians.

No doubt this is only a temporary situation until Gordo is booted out with his rocking horse between his legs...

Tone made me do it - he's a bad influence said...

You have to feel sorry for Paul.

He cleaned up his act after coming home from stock broking in Hong Kong when it was wild west and wild wives time.

He's been after a K since being Chairman of Gartmore, where he was rumoured to be considering standing as a Tory in the West Country.

Since the Myners report, Marks and Spencer recovery Chairman. Why hasn't he been given a gong. Is he not to nuLabs' Tate (Cornwall)?

Anonymous said...

anon 12.19 the nice ones are in power, no need to worry about politics

Anonymous said...

What abaht' t' Myners?

Has Gordo been responsible for terminological inexactitudes?

See how the story continues in This Theatre, Next Week

..and the week after that, and the one after that etc etc

Gordo is like Batman - always in deep trouble, always gets out of it with the help of some fag/assistant or other. Gordo would have been a natural Etonian.

mitch said...

I suspect guido will be ingesting polonium shortly fuhrer bruun will not let this continue.His rocking horse is probably nuclear powered.

PM Elect said...

Mitch,

Brown is the Prime Minister Elect in that he is elected leader of the governing party (as every PM is). We don't have a directly-elected PM in this country, haven't you noticed?

Anonymous said...

Guido - tbh all this Smith Institute investigating is getting a little wearisome. A non-story. Yes, yes, our politicians should be pure as the driven snow. They aren't. Get over it.

english democrat said...

Dear Annoymong 7.35AM.

NO we will not "get over it" you twat! Are you SI or NULAB? if so then you were elected on a whiter than white anti sleaze platform but now NULABs dirty secrets are coming out you want it covered up?
My guess is that you are Annon because you are a NULAB scumbag or fellow traveller am I right? The only thing that is wearisome is cunts like you trying to close down the debate! You have been found out and your time in the sun IS coming to an end! HaHaHaHa.

Anonymous said...

No I'm a Tory actually. Just think this is a complete non-story, and getting very dull.

I think you have to sift stories that really matter from ones that don't. I just happen to think this doesn't - which is why no-one in the media is particularly interested in it.

By the way, one thing I've noticed on this site over the last year is how much foul language is creeping into the comments section (like yours then). There can be a place for using 'juicy' words, but it seems more uncouth than anything at the moment. Almost as if there's an inability to argue effectively.

backwoodsman said...

39 outraged comments before nulab got their first sorry troll to put his head above the parrapet and try the non-story wheeze. Even he didn't sound very hopeful anyone would buy it !
Have copied it to my MP and also BBC trust, demanding both to explain what they intend to do about it. Suggest everyone else does the same, it makes the fuckers go on record and reply and they hate that !

Anonymous said...

Anon 7.35

Its comments like that that encourage our politicians etc to conveniently blur the lines of whats legally &/or morally correct.
And why did you make the comment? My guess is your one of them. Come on, tell us who you are so we can tell your constituents what they are voting for?

Anonymous said...

I'm a Tory member actually. I'm just a bit sick of the language on this site. The electorate don't care about this sort of thing. This sort of mob rule is a bit unhelpful. Don't see how we can persuade the electorate we have changed when they see us behaving like this. Platitude, platitude, high horse etc etc.

Anonymous said...

I'm a Tory member actually. I'm just a bit sick of the language on this site.

Oh dear, are you also one of those people who argues for censorship on television whilst remaining seemingly ignorant of the perfectly simple way in which it is already possible?

unopposed candidate said...

pm elect @6:08

Brown is the Prime Minister Elect in that he is elected leader of the governing party (as every PM is).

I thought Tony Blair is still leader of the LP until 24th June?

Brown is the unopposed candidate for the leadership of the labour party.

english democrat said...

Dear ANNON,

Yes the electorate DO care BUT the media are not reporting it so the public do not know what is going on. You say you are a Tory? Maybe you are NUCON but Tory you aint mate! As for "mob rule" that is bullshit and you know it. The current regime is as bent as a nine bob note and they have managed to strangle the debate to the point that only this site and a few others can shine the light on the crooked slime that infects the "big three" NULAB/NUCON/LIBDEM!
I know how to clear this up right now, what do you do for a living?
NONJOB,MP,QUANGO,MEDIA,LAWYER parasites the lot of them! come on mate tell the truth and shame the devil!

Prudence In The Sky With Rocking Horse said...

You mean a Conservative member?

Anonymous said...

Anon - 12:19

Don't you mean "With his Rocking Arse between his legs".

I bet the snot is flying now as the guilty ones search about for cover.

Retribution is on its' way, and its' name is GUID!

Anonymous said...

Oooops

Should read "GUIDO" - batteries on wireless keyboard must be fading!

Humble apologies Oh Mighty Sword of Truth.

Anonymous said...

Sadly, I suspect it may be the Gord who gets his retribution in first! This blog has got to be in his (lawyers') sights.

Anonymous said...

I'm the original anon at 8.39. I studied politics, and find this Smith stuff wearisome, that's all. Things like this have been going on for donkey's years. It's not the most important sleaze story around at the moment. It probably registers a 1.0 on the Richter sleaze scale, that's all.

As for the language issue, uncouth comments about a rocking horse just seem desperate and rather pathetic to me. If Guido's site is increasingly a place for Conservatives to air grievances it makes me even more disturbed about our prospects next time.

All is not well in Tory-land at the moment ...

there's something nasty in the woodshed said...

Now even one of the top coppers responsible for catching paedophiles says some of the scum should be let off with a caution. This countries going to the feckin dogs! What next, community service for murderers?

Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

rocking horse liberation front said...

Some of the Brownite anonymongs are now pretending to be Tories. How amusing?

anonymong said...

anon 9:53 am PS Will that do Gordon?

Anonymous said...

rocking horse liberation ... no can assure you I'm a Tory. Just bored by the Smith stuff. We have more important battles to fight. And if this is the only sort of way we have of attacking Brown, we're toast.

Anonymous said...

By the way, if you don't believe me that all is not well in our Tory-land go and look at the D Tel comments section. And, this is no Clause 4 issue. 'Dave' is not only alienating his core supporters, he's positioning himself in a way that is going to look soooooooo last year.

Place smart money on Gordon. And I say that as someone who won a tidy sum on Cameron.

proboscis probeing showman said...

Everything's fine in the land at the moment.Through their de-branding of the conservative party via their media silent partners and placemen labour smashed the normal organic evolution of politics.One satisfying offshoot (though too high a price to pay really) was their loss of Scotland.Hopefully it's taught their media creatures a lesson (although the human urge to delve deeper into misdeeds when minor transgressions have been successfully got away with would suggest otherwise).They all know Brown has 'loser' written on his forehead and if the cards fall where they should,Labour will be out for years to come.

gordon's creepy said...

10:11am Thanks for thrilling us with your acumen

Geoffrey G Brooking said...

Interesting story in the Daily Mail today by Benedict Brogan about how Labour has spent £988,679 of taxpayers money promoting political interests.

More Brown corruption.

flesh creep said...

These nu-lab sith astroturfers are as skin crawlingly synthetic and abnormal as their master Broon. Creepy crawlies.

Anonymous said...

Proboscis ... the Gordon's a loser tag disturbs me. I think it's a very dangerous game for the Tories to play. Regardless of whether you think it real or feigned, Brown has been a brilliant Chancellor: by far the best in my lifetime.

If you think everything's fine you really are out of touch with core supporters. Many are incandescent over the grammar schools fiasco. They see it as a symptom of Cameron taking the Conservatives party into NuLab territory, ironically at the very moment NuLab moves on.

snafu said...

Let's hope our press behave responsibly and expose this sordid debacle.

Macavity said...

Has Gordon been sighted today ?

Penfold said...

The old saying that the cover up is worse than the crime itself is true here. Gordo and Myners have had the gall to come clean and pay back the money giving a rather implausible explanation.
The hope is, no doubt, that the blood lust will be satiated and the trail go quiet.
We need to let loose the bloodhounds of revenge and find the rest of the dirt, cos it will be there, no-one is good at covering up their own mess.
Well done Guido, and as others have indicated one should get due reward...


There's a wall somewhere thats got your name on it....

BOF2BS said...

The Myners letter suffers from at least 2 serious omissions:

(1) No dates when the seminars took place/were invoiced.

(2) A copy being sent & noted that it was sent to the Sith.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr/Ms recurrent anon who is a tory and studies politics,

Human nature doesn't change so of course there has always been a certain level of nepotism and corrupt self-interest among the ruling classes. However, the current administration has taken it to new levels through combining a massive culture of contracting out anything they can with the increased public expenditure they are so fond of trumpeting. On many smallish contracts they have managed to favour their own supporters by dint of: extreme pressure on regular public sector workers to "deliver"; reducing the numbers of those workers so they can't deliver unless they cut procedural corners and/or use the programme budget to employ "consultants"; allocating money late in the financial year so that any tendering process has to be rushed or circumvented. Under these circumstances contracts and consultancies have been handed out like sweeties to those with the right connections.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 10:56. Yes, indeed. Don't get me wrong, I think the whole NuLab experiment reeks of this sort of thing. They have been at it for ages, and it is irritating to put it mildly. I just don't happen to think this one on the Smith Inst. is particularly significant. It's my opinion, but I think there are bigger battles to fight, and I don't think most people in the country could give two hoots about this one, that's all.

corrupt cabal said...

anon 11:05am
Role play day at Broon hq is it? How plausible and authentic your disinterested advice is *cof*
Rather a sinister and corrupt bunch of fantasists aren't you?

backwoodsman said...

anonymong, 10.37
I think you'll find a lot more core supporters are incandescent about people who bore on about grammar schools , thus giving the brownite managed media a lifeline, rather than spending their time attacking the disaster brown has created in the economy. That from a party member and small businessman.

broon- ites said...

11:05am "I don't think most people in the country could give two hoots about this one, that's all."

Nonsense. What a quintessential and deceitful Broonite you are. Spare us your absolvence of Gordon's sharp practise.

gordon's sinister smile said...

Dear anon concerned 'Tory' 10.09, 10.37 , 11.05am etc Please explain why we should vote Conservative at the next election?

Anonymous said...

Re. anon's question at 11.34 ... a good friend of mine posted this on the Daily Tel site 2 days ago:

"Cameron is playing high wire politics with his traditional vote. He doesn't have enough personal likeability to make them vote for him regardless of what he says, and I hope proper Tories jam his insipid and unpleasant style of politics back down his throat at the next election."

That comes from a life-long Tory.

I'm really not sure I can answer your question. I can't even say that we should vote Tory over Iraq ... because not only will that be a non-issue next election, the Tories were as complicit in it as Blair.

Reasons for voting Tory under Cameron next time? Not many at the moment I'm afraid. Sadly. If you put a media-spun gimmick in charge you'll end up with vaccuous and insipid non-politics. We've had 10 years of that, we don't need it again.

I never ever thought I'd agree with Heffer about anything, but I can see where he's coming from on Cameron ...

AntiCitizenOne said...

> Brown has been a brilliant Chancellor: by far the best in my lifetime.

HAHAHA! You can't really beleive that about Gordenron?

Anonymous said...

Anon - 10:37

"Chancellor Brown has been a brilliant Chancellor: by far the best in my lifetime."

It's not often that you come across a six year old as articulate as you.

It is a truism that Labour Goverments evetually collapse under the weight/chaos of financial mismanagement, and that process is steadily gathering pace now. Brown's "Prudence" reputation only applied when he was commited to following another Chancellor's policies, "Ken Clarks'". As soon as he got free of that the damage started.

Oh, and "Anon-09:53" - Are you bucking for the job of acting as the Snotty one's saddle :-)

judith said...

To one Tory member from another Tory member:

If all this amnesia can take place at the Treasury, and you just find it boring/not important

, presumably you think it will ok if lots of us, the poor bloody public, just 'forgets' to send in our tax returns for the next couple of years.

I mean, you can just see HMIR saying 'yup, that's ok, these things happen, don't worry about it, pay us when it's convenient'.

english democrat said...

Annon 10.37,

First you say you are a tory, then you go on to say that McStalin is the best chancellor ever? AND you say with a straight face that the theft of public monies to fund a brownite lobby group is a non story? You are a Brownite arselicker troll! I wish you would come out of the closet and tell us who you are! But that is not what you slime do is it? Let me say this loud and clear for you, Have you made lots of money out of the taxpayer? Have you laughed at the stupid English as you and your chums have done a "slash & burn" on the British way of life? You almost got away with it didnt you?
Almost but not quite! Your criminal ways are about to blow up in your face! Even you Brownite scum cannot hide from the storm that will sweep you away.

PS You didnt reckon on the likes of Fawkes/EUref and all the others who are going to bury you did you?
HA HA HA HA HA HA.
PPS I hate NUCON more than you do because thats what it is, a new con.

Graham E said...

'Brown has been a brilliant chancellor'...Anon 10.37
Maybe you would like to expand on this statement. It would be most helpful to a financial novice like me to hear your views on;
1.The astute genius behind the decision to flog off 50% of our gold reserves for peanuts,
2.The blindingly brilliant methodoly behind £5 billion of unrecoverable overpayment of Family Tax Credits,
3.The finacial wizardry behind a doubling in public borrowing,
4.The stunning initiative of ignoring all advice and ruining the retirement plans of millions.
5. The massive financial acumen behind the creation of thousands of new Govt. non jobs.
Because to an ignoramus like me it seems that Brown's singular talent has been to avoid the consequences of his financial mis-management for 10 years.

Anonymous said...

I didn't say 'perfect' I said 'brilliant', and I mean that as much in the sense of 'astute' as 'good'. I agree that the pensions situation has been pretty disgraceful.

But, to answer your question, it's simple: the longest period of sustained growth, low inflation, low interest rates and low unemployment in this country's modern history. That's fact, not spin, and it's the major problem we Conservatives have. Try as we might, all carping about the economy comes across as being sad losers.

Incidentally, I have friends in the city who agree with my sentiments about Brown and NuLab on the economy. They've done a damned good job.

english democrat said...

Dear Brownite ANNON,

Are you a SPAD to a DPM candidate? Are you using a HMG computer in government time? Maybe you are Ed Balls SPAD or the man himself? Is that you GG? Hows the nappy thing working out for you? Hmm! My guess would be HAINs SPAD! am I getting warmer?
Better stuff your bank accounts with dirty money while you can and book a single ticket to north Cyprus! Cos your numbers almost up.
HA HA HA HA HA.

AntiCitizenOne said...

LEARN SOMETHING

> the longest period of sustained growth

The economy hasn't grown, when you remove the growth in debt.

> low inflation

only according to the figures, which are only real if you buy a Chinese DVD player every week!

> low interest rates

led to a massive debt bubble in housing and a massive fall in house affordability. Look at the M4 figures (real inflation). The independent BoE is a con, the monetary committee is hand picked by Brown.

> low unemployment

Actually the UK has a high rate of unemployment masked by wealth destroying non-jobs and putting the unemployed onto disability benefits.

Smoke and mirrors is the Labour way.

english democrat said...

Annon 12.57.

So you and your chums think McStalin has done a good job? Well OK if you think that destroying the economy is a good thing! AND if you think that creating a police state is also a good thing!
McStalins economy has been very very good for one kind of person and that is the carpet bagger capitalist and the smash and grab investor! Oh and lets not forget the russian mafia! they have had a ball with things like the VAT scam! AND last but not least, scumbags with the right political
connections! This whole thing reminds me of the old Chicago and New York rackets and look what happened to them.
See you in the dock HA HA HA HA.

brown's creepy cabal said...

12:57 am

What a mendacious and creepy bunch you Broonite lickspittles are. Why are you here tying yourself in knots with your compund deceit? Apply yourself to Guido's charges of corruption rather than this embarrassing and wearisome charade. PS Where is Brown today? Still hiding?

broonie said...

Broon's and his flying monkeys are a weird bunch aren't they? Like the Moonies.

backwoodsman said...

well your friends 'in the city' should try running a business with employees and paying browns' increased NI insurance contributions etc. The only businesses who have done well out of brown, are the ones involved in ripping off the tax payer through PFI and government consultancy work. Coincidentally, cohen, myners , and similar contributors to browns' slush fund.

english democrat said...

The funny thing about the Brownite annonymong is that IF they are using a HMG terminal then its ALL recorded and logged! HA HA HA so when the old bill do get around to investigating and feeling collars Then annonymong will have left a trail of breadcrumbs right to his location! HA HA HA.
They are coming to take you away HA HA they are coming to take you away today(maybe not today)HO HO!

Scary Biscuits said...

"Prime Minister Gordon Brown was interviewed by police today under caution on suspicion of crimes under the Prevention of Corruption Acts 1889-1916. He became the first ever serving Prime Minister to be interviewed under caution by police and only the second to be interviewed as part of a criminal investigation."

Yep. Non-story. Nothing to report here. Let's move on. Everybody's been doing this since time began. Of course New Labour hasn't politicised the Civil Service of blur the line between party and state, say politics graduates. Those dusty old rules about Government contractors not being allowed to give money back, I mean, to the Labour Party are so last century, they don't apply to people who are above suspicion... etc.

mitch said...

how astute is it to "lose" 6 billion quid(proven)? its not exactly small change. thats wot a ton for every person in the uk well i want mine back.mans a complete fuckwit and eats his own snot(proven).Gold sale it would be funny if it wasnt my fucking money again(proven).so how is he good? the economy survived inspite of
not because of ol snotty.So all u nulab trolls FUCK YOU!!!!

dmitri said...

dear guido,

i wish to add my own salute to the many well-deserved plaudits, congrats etc

in my opinion, you should be awarded the Socialist Order for Services to Symphonic Scale Shit-Stirring (the SOSSSSS, ceremony to be held in the Red Lion)

a masterwork

suggested nickname for this opus "the stalinprod" (he might enjoy a "stalinprobe" just a little too much.

and i don't believe there will be any debate over the interpretation of political sub-text!

To The Motherland!

yours behumbled

Anonymous said...

"Why the Two Year Interval?"

MIND THE GAP! MIND THE GAP!....

MIND THE GAP! MIND THE GAP!....

MIND.....


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