Latest Poll Confirms Labour's Lemming "Bounce"
Voters are going to miss Blair when he is gone, the latest YouGov poll for the Sunday Times says the people rate him a good prime minister by a narrow 3% margin, by a bigger 45% margin they believed he did what he thought to be right.With Blair, Labour is 4% behind the Tories, when voters are asked how they will vote when Brown becomes leader the gap widens to 10%. Brown is simply less likeable than Blair. By 50% to 31% people say they do not like him, Blair scores better.
The polling data confirms what we know intuitively, Labour have acted like lemmings, dispensing with their most successful leader of all time for a less popular, less likeable replacement. The more the voters see of Gordon, the worse it will get. It is all very well Brown getting his anti-war activist base back on side, but that doesn't help in middle England.
Cameron has lifted his party's poll numbers over the last year as voters have come to know and like him, Brown is well known and voters dislike him. Gordon Brown's recent Scottish campaign confirms his electoral value.
95 comments:
I thought Brown’s launch was boring. Labour has a problem. He is not a leader. No inspiration.
The problem for him is that he was a good 2nd to Blair and part of a disjointed double act. On his own I think he will fail.
I bet you there are some people who are already having doubts.
Blair, Brown, Cameron - Nil Point.
just watching BBC. Have to say that on just about EVERY level (including *some* of the lefty policies) I think McDonnell would make a far better PM. The man is intelligent, engaging and seems like someone you could trust. Can't believe I'm writing this...
Sadly, Gordon is emerging as the Ernie Wise of British politics (only less of a playwrite, obviously)
Brown's a usless muppet and the electorate have woken up to that fact at long F***ing last!
Blair is a self-serving fake. But, there will stil be people who cling to the '97 image and who get seduced by a Television Primeminister that can flap their gums and deliver sound-bites as well as Blair does.
Tamburlaine has put his (I assume) finger right on the button. With McDonnell as leader Labour will be a happy opposition party again; and the Tories will be a happy governing party again. Smiles all round.
Surprised you haven't gone for the demonstrable lie of his turning his back on spin!The auto-cue 'incident' was deliberate.The door slamming 'housewife' was the real deal.
Camera crew is ushered into house by 'housewife'.Gordon appears from around the hedge.'Housewife' slams door in Gordon's face and quickly hides.Gordon,expecting a virgin threshold,rings bell in case the 'housewife' (who seconds earlier slammed the door in his face)is in the kitchen.'Housewife' then opens door to Gordon and enthusiastically exclaims:'wellcome to my house'!You couldn't make it up but you CAN fail to report the true nature of it.Guido-you should add the auto-cue incident to your sleaze book.When contrasted to the door slamming it gives the obvious lie to the death of spin line.Only channel four news ran the full door slamming clip (without comment)so they are covered from the charge of not reporting it.They then concentrated on the auto-cue nonsense.This is a left wing media game.As a trusted organ,people believe the story is where the broadcaster says it is.Whereas in this case it needed 'compare and contrast' for the true story to be told.This contrasting case should be talked up at every available opportunity by right thinking people IMO (While the iron is hot).
Guido, have you been reading our Lib Dem guide to barcharts ?
I would like to know why he tucks his left trouser leg into his sock.
This has to be a deliberate act, it can't happen by accident and it can't be a bike thing as the chainring is always mounted on the RHS.
Want to build confidence?
Call in MacCavity Brown Builders Ltd.
Specialists in solar powered mud huts for middle England.
Anonymous. 101 pm.
See link to The Scotsman:
http//thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=729272007
There has been an outbreak of ticks in Scotland. Walkers are advised to tuck their trousers into their socks. Otherwise, they may get Lymes Disease which causes nervous ticks and psychiatric problems. I'd say it was a bit late in Gordon's case but better to be sure.
A poll to gladden the heart of all those who know that the “great clunking fist” is really a big sulking shit.
I do love the fact that the pension thief is now announcing to all that the last 10 years were nothing to do with him. Well Gobshite, you paid for this mess with my money (and the rest of the taxpayers). And all to get elected as Labour Commissar – what will he do when he needs to get elected by real people and not the self serving lobby fodder currently trying to Brown-nose in the hope of a cushy job.
I see the next big waste is to 5 eco-towns to be known as Brown Towns – sitting on the banks of shit creek perhaps? I bet PFI and other snoutish scams so approved of by this tart of a Chancellor will be well to the fore and that all the house are slums within 20 years (if they are ever built).
We now have an answer to where’s Gordon, how about an answer to why Gordon?
Does Lymes Disease cause oral tics too?
I ask because during his Knebworth speech he said "consti-uency" about 5 times. Now as a "son of the manse" in Fife he would not have heard a Glasgow glottal stop at home,(all consonants would have been pronounced), so why this lapse into a most unlovely kind of speech?
Of course since we know he is trying to emulate TB and be all things to all men, perhaps he just forgot where he was and thought he was speaking as Knebworthians do.
!The auto-cue 'incident' was deliberate.
Exactly what I said and blogged over the trouser in sock incident.
These are old media tricks to spice up what would otherwise be partly reported, and partly ignored, boring stories.
Expect more and more faux pas as Brown fails to engage with anyone but the usual Labour cock sucking cunts.
Where's Blair?
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/05/blair-visiting-white-house-next-week.html
Yeah, but Gay Gordon might not win the Labour party leadership contest. Labour's opinion poll figures would be better if Michael Meacher or John McDonnell beat Gay Gordon.
See
http://bloodandtreasure.typepad.com/blood_treasure/2007/05/first_rough_dra.html
for a brilliant summary of Blair's reign.
I am not a UK voter and I don't like Brown either...
Moonbat Meacher?
You can't be serious!
Surely its a dead cat bounce ?
Why do some thicky journos describe Brown as an economic success, anyone can acquire lots of shiny new things by running up historic levels of debt from every single available source, but is it a good idea? And if it works so well in the long term and is so safe why is real inflation out of control, taxes going up and public spending going down?
I'd say the jury is out at the very least, a disaster is on its way at worst?
Sorry 'Shotgun'.I never read your blog.
Alfred of Wessex' link has especially good use of the words
wankstain
and
cuntbubble
This comment.independent article by Matthew Norman is also worth a read.
Poor old Guido isn't very good at maths and barcharts, a cynic might think he was biased.
I'd consider voting for McDonnell (obviously not right now) he looks like he could be an actual human being.
Anonymous 3:53 and 3:59
The busy body police are back!
3:59 PM, May 13, 2007 If you think Guido is biased ,why not check other blogs ,if you think he's still wrong , tell him .
A little Bird tells me George "charity belongs in my pocket" Galloway might have a love child.
Anyone know any more?
poor old labour they have cooked the goose that laid their golden eggs.couple of more speechs from the clunking fister and the sound of vomiting will be overwhelming.my wife saw him on telly this morning and after about 20 secs said whats that funny tic.that gulping thing just gets your attention and nothing he says registers just the gulp gulp thing.oblivion here they come!
It's a cliche to say that the British public are conservative with a small c, and with this in mind who can say for certain that Mrs Thatcher would not have been elected for a 4th term, albeit with a reduced majority and despite the poll tax fiasco? Unpalatable as it may seem to some, it is conceivable that the British public who happened to vote her in 3 times are just beginning to forgive the Tories for the way they got rid of her. With Blair said to be the true heir of Thatcher, is the same scenario about to be played out in the Labour arena? The Tories are mightily relieved to see the back of Blair with good reason.
The BBC is being its usual disingenuous self by now referring to "the Blair government" everytime they report on Gordon's proposed iniatives such as his so called "eco towns" or his disavowal of the parsimonious 75p increase for pensioners. Can I ask who the f*ck was actually in charge at the Treasury and purportedly all domestic policy for the last 10 years. It wouldn't be Gordon would it by any chance ? Thought so !
Have you noticed that the weather's turned shite since Uncle Joe started his campaign?
He's cursed I tell you!!!!
As Jilted John said way back in 1978 - Gordon is a Moron.
I'm afraid you are deluding yourself's about Cameron winning the next election - not a chance. The best that they can possibly achieve will be a hung parliment but my money is on labour to win by a working majority.
....and I'm not a socialist.
Gordon "Spammer" Brown.
http://www.theuktoday.co.uk/2007/05/is_gordon_brown_a_spammer.html
Gordon is now claiming the spin era is at an end. Labour will no longer spin.
If the Earth were to suddenly stop spinning, everything on it would be destroyed.
I long to see the destruction of Brown's world if he did actually stop spinning. There would be nothing left.
Tamburlaine said...
just watching BBC. Have to say that on just about EVERY level (including *some* of the lefty policies) I think McDonnell would make a far better PM. The man is intelligent, engaging and seems like someone you could trust. Can't believe I'm writing this...
12:24 PM, May 13, 2007
I have to say I am inclined to agree - and I also cannot beleive I am writing this.....but then I am a soft Tory..
For some reason I just keep thinking there is still time for the Blair to go to the party and say "Oh all right then, if you really want me to, I will stay on until the next election so the party has more time to choose a leader".
If that happened the door would re-open for David Miliband and others. Failing that, I just keep thinkig Milburn has not yet said he will not stand and I do not see what he has done wrong. Tall, good hair, safe seat, not tainted by recent events, reasonably good looking and comes across fairly likeable.
anon.5.02
Events dear boy, events.
So the next election will be:
Brown vs Cameron vs Ming.
Oh dear...someone wake me up when the handcart reaches hell.
I think Gordon lips are far more lucious than Camerons , what do the women of Britain think?
Picking and choosing your figures Guido? What about Labour's increase in the poll to 38%?
if and when the public gets a vote on
gordo at the helm and he is soundly beaten to a pulp will he then shut the fuck up and fuck off back whence he came.will all the trolls and others of their ilk follow suit after admitting socialism is a failed experiment and let us get on with small government and little interference in everything??????
Am I the only one that thinks that the Conservatives should just run a party political with the video-clip of Gordon Brown eating his own bogies at PMQ's, perhaps with the slogan;
"Choose Brown, Go Green"
Anonymous said...
I'm afraid you are deluding yourself's about Cameron winning the next election - not a chance. The best that they can possibly achieve will be a hung parliment but my money is on labour to win by a working majority.
....and I'm not a socialist.
That's what all the mongs said right up until the final results were unveiled a few days ago.
It's Dave's policicies what's pulling in the support!!!
Why is everyone so ungrateful, He is going to house up to 100,000 lucky ones who obey the rules in His brown towns, so called because each will be powered by its own moat of eco friendly raw sewage, which will also keep out the scavengers and the armed gangs, it will be a great symbol of modern Brownland and you tories are just jealous.
didnt the ussr use potemkin villages to distract people wonder where brun got the idea from.will these tied villages be in labour marginals and who would they then vote for?? see they cant help rigging stuff.
Guido must have been taken over by CCHQ. If I wanted crap bar charts, polling propaganda and Dave is the best thing since sliced bread, I'd visit conservative home.
baldock do you mean a surge to 34%? The Tories had 38%.
Chad Noble
Everybody knows you are Lord Cashcroft.
And you do, sadly, visit Conservative Home. Still.
You've got quite a party going here, so I won't stop long.
I think the biggest of the Big Think stuff runs like: Brown - Boo, Boo, Boo; Cameron - Yah, Yah, Yah.
And that's about it.
As I said, I won't stop long.
This poll reminds me of my rather jolly grandfather's description of sex - up with a bounce and a bounce and down.
So it's Windmill Dave v Greenhouse Brown
Meaningless! It's far too early to assess Brown - what have the public seen of him so far? Better to wait until eight or nine weeks time when he has had a chance to make an impact, or not as the case may be.Then we shall see. It's a useful pointer, however, to warn Brown that he needs to be more assertive, get himself a good speechwriter and not allow the teleprompter to get in the way of his face again.
The Hitch at 6.20.
I'm afraid that Gordon's wrinkled pursed-up little lips remind me of a cat's bottom.
Men may see things differently.
Um, after 10 years as the 2nd most powerful man in the UK, it's too early to assess Gordon Brown?
Is this meant to be funny?
And as far as GB's attractiveness to women, purleese, even Old Ming Vase would be a better bet.
Indeed, Guido.
All the more crushing for the Tories when they end up losing the next election, as they surely will.
The prospect of Gordon as Prime Minister is frightening. He was the "genius" who at his March election doubled the income tax of the poorest pensioners between 60 and 65 and put them into deep financial trouble.
Absolutely NO research behind that.
And New labour still think he's fit to run our country?
The Hitch 6.20pm
Browns lips? NO THANK YOU! He's more than likely had then up the cat's bottom (Charlotte 8.22pm).
Mind you Cameron hasn't even got a top lip and has the most annoying habit - he keeps licking/sucking it in all the time.
Neither option floats my boat.
re. Gordon's loss of consonants (anon 1.45pm). There may be something contagious doing the rounds - I heard Ed Miliband on the radio this afternoon and his accent sounded spookily like that favoured by the great actor himself
What does post-cold-war socialism look like?
It's still about the oppressed, women, poor, lowly paid, repressed races. Now the policies are dressed up with a friendly face.
Instead of nationalising state industries they will be controlled by regulators. Instead of banning entrepeneurs they will drown in red tape. Energy may be spent, but it has to have it's carbon foot print offset.
The cold war may be lost but guerilla-socialism is alive and kicking.
not allow the teleprompter to get in the way of his face again
Until he can get rid of the queer gurning and facial tics he should speak from behind a curtain, weraing a yashmak. Or only appear in public on video, thoroughly pixilated.
Chad Noble
Everybody knows you are Lord Cashcroft
LoL Mong 7:18pm. Not me. Why does everyone think every malcontent is me? I'm too busy enjoying West Ham's premiership survival that I even posted something nice on Iain's site.
Lobotomite Tiresias, you have pleased me, return to your filing duties now, I will call for you later to perform my personal cleansing.
BaldockBaldrick @ 6.30,
Doh!
"Labour’s poll rating has climbed to 34%, its best since September, four points behind the Tories on 38%".
Source: Sunday Times
Do you have reading difficulties?
Apology accepted.
the hitch 6:20 PM:
i think cameron's got a nice helmet
(and between you and me dear...he kept it on when i had him behind the house of commons bike shed)
u much more sexy tho darling
when we gonna get together, hon?
Brown made a mess of tonight's "debate" with Meacher and McDonnell and revealed himself in his true colours, never a pleasant sight.
When his grandiose bullshit, bravado, and lies were challenged he could barely keep from having one of his tantrums or bursting into tears.
Brown is mentally and emotionally unstable and his Premiership will be a disaster for Britain and will probably destroy him personally.
It will certainly lead to a massive defeat for Labour at the next GE and will keep them out of power for years.
penelope...
u is the wrong sex for the hitch, girlie, unless you is a chick with a dick
the hitch 6:20pm
naaa gordo looks like he's swallowing somat nasty
will a strap-on do?
a strap-on's OK penileope old thing, as long as it's black, well lubricated, 12" long and at least 2" in diameter, dear heart, though I do prefer the real thing normally
Gordon will win the next election, the torys will not be trusted by the british people. Remember black wednesday? If the torys get in again, it will be 15% interest rates and sleaze all over again.
When the pound starts getting slaughtered on the foreign exchanges within the next year it will take more than 15% interest rates to save it.
Brown's Enron policies are sleepwalking us to disaster and we will end up begging the IMF for a bail-out within 2 years and pleading with Europe to let us join the euro at a rate of £1 to 1 euro within 3.
manic street preacher said...
"Gordon will win the next election, the torys will not be trusted by the british people. Remember black wednesday? If the torys get in again, it will be 15% interest rates and sleaze all over again. "
Where have you been?
Only dolts will trust New Labour again and have you caught up with last weeks' news yet? Oh, and the cash for honours?
Blair's devotion to a supernatural cause is sincere and deep; and he has continually displayed a quite remarkable freedom from the principles and scruples of this world. In a half-ironic, more-in-sorrow turn of phrase, Roy Jenkins said that his young friend was "a little too Manichean ... seeing things in stark terms of good and evil, black and white". But Blair is not just Manichean; he is antinomian. He believes that "to the pure all things are pure" and that if you are of the elect you can do anything at all still in the certainty of salvation.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article2536780.ece
Do you think Cameron uses Nivea facecream?
Black Wednesday although now largely a Myth and not even experienced by most of the current electorate was a turning point in UK economics. The truth being that Gordon Brown inherited the most benign economic climate ever from the Conservatives aka Mrs M. Thatcher.
He even went so far as to Wisely continue Tory Policies for his first 3 years into the Job
and it was this that gave him the cash to squander over the other two thirds.
Not forgetting his masterstroke of selling our Gold Reserves when the Gold price was at an All Time rock bottom LOW.
> Not forgetting his master-stroke of selling our Gold Reserves when the Gold price was at an All Time rock bottom LOW.
He also managed to tell the market that a glut of gold was going to be sold, ensuring an even lower price.
See this
Chris Atkins film covers "the Natwest three", Maya Evans and Walter Wolfgang.
"It's still about the oppressed, women, poor, lowly paid, repressed races."
There you have it, Javelin. I qualify on all four of those descriptions and I'm still not voting for Gordon.
I don't trust that girly-chinned Cameron either, but he's not actually repulsive, especially when he holds hs tongue and refrains from giving us the benefit of his gosh-gee homespun wisdom, which makes me want to slap his cheek and see him blub. I don't know what our leading public schools are coming to when they turn out genius of this calibre.
Hmm...sea water or my own urine - which do I fancy this morning? My understanding is that sea water drives you madder, faster. Please advise.
Anonymous said...
Do you think Cameron uses Nivea facecream?
If his nickname at Berkshire Boys Reform School was Puffy we can see he was allergic to it
this is Dave
http://www.republicanvoices.org/pillsbury_doughboy.jpg
"my wife saw him on telly this morning and after about 20 secs said whats that funny tic.that gulping thing just gets your attention and nothing he says registers just the gulp gulp thing"
Yeah, distracts me too. What happens is he blethers away for 20 seconds in one go, then runs out of breath, then gulps in as much air as possible by thrusting his jaw backwards causing his double-chin to drop onto his chest.
I suppose his image-makers have tried to fix this and failed, so probably they will go for option [2] - tell the electorate that he was hit on his head with a baseball bat by his dad when very young. This will win the "oh, he's a bit mad but you've got to feel sorry for him" vote. It worked for George Bush....
The voters always prefer the milquetoast they don't know to the devil they do. Can you blame them? But at least Brown shows signs of actual malevolence: Cameron shows no signs of anything whatsoever. What happens when they forget to replace the dilithium crystals?
Who's chad? Does this mean I have an imposter?
I do visit conservative home, but one comes to Guido for a holiday............
sorry guido, for all you spin, you're wrong...again
Guido, wait till Cameron reveals some policies... (and we've all waited over a year so far) and see support ebb away.
People don't have to like Gordon, they just have to vote for him.
Cameron has increased Tory support by less than one per cent since Michael Howard, unless he starts tackling the policy machine that is Gordon the fifth Tory leader since Blair will be dispatched once more.
Welcome back, we haven't seen you since the Local election drubbing your man got.
Where do you get this 1% improvement figure from? Your dreams?
Mitch,
Actually Potemkin Villages were supposedly created by Empress Catherine II's minister Grigori Potemkin to impress her and the people with the (non-existent) riches of the Crimea, which he had just captured.
The Bolsheviks didn't rely on anything so elaborate - they just shot anyone who pointed out that the system was a fuckup.
I've been busy sowing the seeds of a 'historic' (and this argot is important) 4th term election victory.
Isn't it taken as fact that Labour's poll performance improved 1%?
Cameron is Blair lite. If the British people wanted an alchohol free (and for the purposes of this tortured anology, I'm going to use humanitarian intervention and his post-Westphalian speech as the alchohol) Blairism, they'd have voted for Mr. Cameron in places like Manchester, Liverpool, Nottingham, etc. They didn't.
Being fashionable in Notting Hill media circles is not enough to win elections.
bhownaggree
Can you give me the contact details for your dealer, he's obviously selling some good shit!
You black Knight you
http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/large/HolyGrail017.jpg
The same joke works better in reverse for David Cameron... / half the Cabinet.
As much as it pains me to say it, Broon the Soor Ploom has actually uttered two sensible policy suggestions.
1. Eco towns. Don't laugh, these actually work. About two-thirds of the national grid output is pissed away before it reaches the plug socket. Local power generation is far more efficient, with heat pumped around neighbouring buildings as central heating, and this is not uncommon on the continent.
2. Giving up prerogative powers. If he actually does this, I will applaud.
BTW, a Soor Ploom is a Scottish item of confectionary with a characteristic sour taste, famous for giving the eater a glowering furrowed-brow face. I reckon Broon was addicted to these in his youth.
Of cause politicians do what they think is right. Right for them to stay in power for as long as possible. Otherwise they could not do all the other wonderous things they plan to do.
However and I quote
"It is easier to do the right thing then it is to know what the right thing is to do."
Winston Churchill
Which is all good and well but.
In my opinion there is no one better qualified to know what is best for you personally, then yourself. Even if that does result in you drinking eating or smoking yourself to death. Its called growing up, leaving mummy and daddy behind you, and becoming a free independant adult human being.
Socialists please note.
Is it not ironic that when Tories go to war it is why they get elected again. RE 1983
And according to the BBC and rest of the Labour Party faithfull.
When Labour gos to war it is why they may not get elected again.RE 2007.
And why their magority in parliament fell. RE 2005
Churchill may have had something to say about that bit of BBC Labour friendly propagander.
Far from being a reason why Labour lost seats at the last election. May it not be possible that in reality on balence Tony Blair has kept more seats in marginal constituencies then lost because of the war?
Surly it is not in the British character or history to dump war leaders while the battle is still rageing against the Germans, the Islamofascists or the Trades Unions. They wait untill afterwards if they possibly can.
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