Labour's Lemming-Like Lunacy
When you look at this morning's YouGov poll in the Torygraph you have to wonder if the Labour party is having a collective moment of Lemming-like lunacy. Blair is undeniably more popular than Brown. Voters would far prefer to live under a Cameron government than a Brown government by a 10% margin.Even if Brown signalled straight-away that he intended to bring the boys back from Iraq, (something that would be popular), he would be supported in this by the Tories, so no real advantage will come even from that. The much heralded "Brown Bounce" seems as real a prospect as a "Brown tax cut". Left-wing voters will still remember that he wrote the cheques for the war and right-wing voters will always say it was his fault that the army was ill equipped, under-funded and over-stretched. The Brown bounce will be a dead-Lemming bounce.
Full data set (pdf) here.
66 comments:
Guido, I must protest. Lemmings are not so stupid to run over cliffs. It is an urban myth.
The Labour Party on the other-hand...
Fantastic! Labour are in total meltdown and Scotland will soon be free.
You can have Brown if you like, feel free to put him in stocks or whatever.
VOTE SNP - it's time.
..all parties suffer during mid-term... mid-term blues... nothing to worry about... economy in robust shape... a colossus in the Labour party.. two years to prepare for the general election ..renew the party in power.. location location location .. mind the gap.. objects in the rear-view mirror are closer than they appear...
Copyright - The whole blogosphere...
Labour really need a little boy to point out their emperor's clothing status. At the moment there's a collective suicide bid basically due to the M.P.'s lack of bottle. They're so cowardly they'd rather elect Brown and lose than upset him and miss the chance of being under secretary of paperclips for 6 months.
Still, looks like Meacher and McDonnell will be providing the light relief.
Understand that McBroon is recruiting Pantsdown to review the situation in Iraq. Now how depressing is that for the Lib Dems, to see the leader they should have with the Prime Minister while they are stuck with the current incumbent Ming the Merciless...
Guido, please hush up. You could ruin everything.
Clearly it doesn't translate 'countrywide', but the latest poll for the Welsh Assembly elections shows the Labour Party in meltdown.
http://blamerbellbriefs.blogspot.com/
Trouble is, Tories aren't doing much better..
It's amazing that the Labour Party have held it together for this long!
I think Blair should stick to his promise and stay on for a full third term - i.e. call a general election on May 4th.
Should it not be that Blair is less unpopular" that Brown?
Yet surely even Labour realise that Brown is the REASON they are losing. Heavens forbid that I should mention Iain Dale's commentary in today's Daily Telegraph but even my own better half totally agrees with his views on how women see Gordon Brown (instinctive reaction is "Yuk!").
I'm dying to see how the astroturfers are going to deal with promoting Brown & Co after the pounding Labour is anticipating next week. Perhaps, as has occasionally been reported elsewhere, the reason the astroturfers are so quiet at the moment is that they are desperately seeking employment away from Millbank.
Can anyone who has paid ever increasing taxes for the last 10 years while public services have gradually gone to pot really be surprised?
While I've had batten down the hatches to pay the school fees the local Chavs drive around in a Lexus RS!!!!!
Guido sat in your ivory cellar what you fail to understand is the view pointof the ordinary man , it doesnt matter who leads labour or indeed the conservative party , to most of us it is like a beauty contest for turds in a lavatory bowl , THEY ARE ALL SHIT!
my word verification is
jocbum
DEAD MACAVITY BOUNCE.
He will try to make popular announcements / obtain supportive headlines / and he will try to pull his socks up/stop picking his nose in public / smiling in a genuine way etc etc.
He will fail (just look at the naive and almost continuous photo ops with children of recent weeks)......And then the unexpected will happen,it always does.
WILL HE THEN DISAPPEAR/HIDE?
The Labour Party annointed a successor at the same time Blair was elected (because they are dim-witted and don't understand that things change)They have spent 12 years telling themselves that Brown was the natural heir (the BBC and the MSM have been telling everyone this for years as well). He has been building his fan base for all that time. Nobody else can possibly get a look in. It's like a slow train wreck and there is nothing the idiots in the Labour Party can do about it, but, the electorate have finally started to wake up to the bullsit hype around Brown. Problem is, the MSM are still in his pocket. The BBC have been shameless in their promotion of him and will try to kick the shit out of Cameron whenever they get the chance. Cameron has very few friends in the MSM, you might have noticed! Even the "Tory" papers bitch about him. 3 years of Brownite propganda form them, beholden non-job public sector voters and a an electoral system that favours Labour heavily, may just be enough to keep Gordon, the bogeyman, in number ten, even if the popular vote is with the Tories.
To be fair to the Labour Party, they haven't exactly got much choice have they? The cupboard(cabinet) is bare.
I hope they remember that it was Brown himself with his coup last year, who brought this sorry (for them) situation about.
It's the way Brown wants us to associate his name with courage that really makes one retch. Courage!
If we are all really middle-aged men around here, you won't need reminding of the tale of Mad Carew ...
- - - - -
There’s a one-eyed yellow Scotsman of a dour and sullen hue
There’s a stench of pious bullshit all around
There’s a broken-heated woman dreams of socialism true
And the yellow Scot forever lets her down
He was known as Red McBroon, and he made the Party swoon
Though his cowardice had long begun to smell
But for all he was a wanker he was feted by the bankers
And Polly Toynbee smiled on him as well
He’d been stringing her along with his socialism strong
She’d swallowed all he put into her head
When she judged Blair’s time was short, she said Broon had her support
Provided he would prove himself True Red
He wrote to ask what promise she would like from Red McBroon
They met for lunch as many times before
And fervently she told him then that nothing else would do
But his vote against Blair’s mad Iraqi war
On the night of the debate, Red McBroon was in a state,
His followers could bring mad Tony down
But he’d never in his life had the balls to wield the knife
For he knew the wielder never wears the crown
When it came to the division, courage gave way to ambition
And his scruples failed as surely as his balls
When she heard them read the vote, fury welled up in her throat
And ‘betrayal!’ was her cry around the halls
Now Hell it hath no fury like a jilted Polly Toynbee
First Blair and now McBroon had sold his soul
As she stomped off in the night, for her op-ed piece to write
She vowed vengeance on the yellow Scots arsehole
There’s a one-eyed yellow Scotsman of a dour and sullen hue
There’s a stench of pious bullshit all around
There’s a broken-heated woman dreams of socialism true
And the yellow Scot forever lets her down
I dont recall Stalin ever being bothered about his popularity so why should Brown.
Gentlemen, you can inhale those numbers. Stats taken from questions posing 'what if' scenarios are subject to a (roughly) 100% margin of error.
Nick Drew - a masterpiece, particularly like :
'Now Hell it hath no fury like a jilted Polly Toynbee'
he he he.
Guido, if you're going to continue along this road of being a cheerleader for Blair, I'm not bothering to read this blog any longer.
But it would be such fun if Blair stayed. A disaster of course, but that's what we're getting with Brown, we might as well get the buggers fighting.
Prime Minister Brown will seek to buy off large parts of the electorate, ie those who rely on the public purse for their income. Where TB has sought to build his appeal across all groups, I suspect that Mr Brown will segment the market and target specific groups. As we have seen, he will be prepared to bend the government's fiscal rules to do this. Current opinion polls are irrelevant as his plan has yet to be implemented. Expect to see a raft of populist initiatives (a slashing of the 2012 budget, for example) that will quickly build his support base. The next election will be a bitter and hard fought contest, be assured of that.
The Labour leadership was stitched up between Blair and Brown at a private meeting in 1994. Since that date Brown has systematically undermined every conceivable alternative. Labour's claim to be a democratic party is a joke. Even in the days when Tory grandees got together at the Carlton Club to 'emerge' their leaders there were more than two people present, and they didn't make decisions that determined their party leadership for 15 or 20 years.
nick drew said...
If we are all really middle-aged men around here, you won't need reminding of the tale of Mad Carew ...
Yes nick just what this blog needed a bloody boring poem thanks a bunch.
The Hitch said...
Still posting then fatty ? Time to move over "Shotgun" is back and you my tubby fellow are history !
Perhaps TP might entertain the idea of a cabinet reshuffle after the May elections. Mr Brown to be prised out of the Treasury and into a non-executive type role. Blair to stay on and 'get the new team up to speed' for another year. Brown's current strategy for his first 100 days will rely on having intimate knowledge of the nation's finances; where the skeletons are buried and where quick gains can be realised. Without these insights his situation will be very much weaker when the time comes to pitch for the leadership. Maybe this could be TB's legacy - saving us from Prime Minister Brown. But is he strong enough?
Vote Brown get Cameron.
Brownite death cult. Or similar ...
I'm thinking they're both just a pairing of dickheads
and I'm in a specialist position to be saying:
coz u know that Tonie Bare
he phonied me once for a little datie
He sayied he wanting so bad to commission me...
to carry out n “enquirie into Standuds in Publics Life”...
So we ranged to mount up on top old Big Ben
he sayed would jus take 45 mins
but all came out bit of a damp squibbie
U see, i commenced with the prelimanarie investishagations...
debriefing and squizzing...
but then sudden eleventh hour struck
he was all primed with his pants down
Usa gotta know how loud that big old bell donged
oooohhh the vibratoring was SO sweet!...and pressurized his governing instrument to issue one hastie ill-conceived report...
without dew warning
it got launched clean outta opened window in the cocktower
on a trajectony that plopped it down splotting the helmet of a respectdibble representation of the Law...
An so he got wapped on by mass despunkshun
As he plodding past below...
An both he and the gathering crowdie public people
thought was some lickiweed scudding toxical cruddie...
A birdie-shit projected from the incoming mother of all pigeons...
they never nu was some dodgy drossia despatchied by a minister in the highest...ponsible...office...
Me felt myself so let downie
Maybe Macbroon's taken the Labour party hostage and they have no choice , onwards and over...
"Mike" you really are a tedious little oik.
No doubt you would be better off on myspace grooming young boys rather than visiting this blog and boring us all.
If you must hurl abuse at least try to inject some wit into your ejaculations.
Now run along.
"Now run along." is a registered trademark of Archibishop Cranmer and is used by permission.
hi hitch u look so hornie honey!
Hitch: 'mike' = Dennis Legge ? ...
Have a care, Mr Legge
could bruun be less popular than foot and the windbag?? seems nobody likes the sullen snot eater and ive not met anyone who will vote labour while he is gonna lead it.
"I dont recall Stalin ever being bothered about his popularity so why should Brown" - Anon @ 12:57
Actually anon, Stalin cared a great deal about his popularity down to the last detail, it became known as the Cult of Personality.
Anyone here read "The March of Folly" by Barbara Tuchman? She explains how political parties, even whole nations, sometimes continue down the road they have chosen, knowing it can only lead to disaster, but somehow unable to turn back.
That's where the Labour party is now: steaming down the line to a slow train crash. They know it, but they can't bring themselves to apply the brakes.
Tee-hee!
4.55 t.w hereward
The Cult of personality was what we would call modern day spin. Just my point.
penelope prickstop (prime-ministerial aid) 2:43 PM, April 27, 2007:
Now look here...I mean...I would just like to point out that your 'comment' is a despicable outrage against public decency and morals and wholly and totally unjustified.
WRONG!
trumpeter lanfried:
Although I don't believe I would find this book quite as entertaining as you seem to have done...this is indeed a very interesting psychological phenomena you have highlighted.
What is their final destination, I wonder?
Leamigton Spa?
Small print I think you will find that the phrase "Now run along"
Was First used in 1829 by at Rugby school by Headmaster Dr Thomas Arnold, the school still holds the copyright and enjoys royalties of approximately five hundred guineas per annum payable each Michaelmas in return for its usage.
The graph you show reminds me of the 'Gordaq' chart that Newsnight introduced some while ago, no doubt to chart his rising stock with the populace.Strange they have not shown it for a while.I wonder why? Perhaps this blog could continue the service?
The real story in this poll is that the Labour party are actually narrowing the gap. The tories are down two points and going nowhere.
The Hitch said.."Mike" you really are a tedious little oik.
Admit it fatty I'm beginning to get to you.
Brown is wrong on virtually everything but at least he has a coherent position.
Cameron - like Blair - is a low life demagogue. Having absolutely no idea how society works used to be ok for a conservative because society more or less took care of itself. Now that it is all fucked up beyond all recognition remedying the damage needs more than the kind of intellectual power the likes of Kruger & alia can provide.
You can laugh at the Hitch for being an old fat lonely bastard, but he is the only one here that talks any sense.
Mike
Just who is gail?
The fabled "Brown Bounce" has been and gone. It was used up in May 2005, to get Bliar off the hook in a flagging election camapign. Brown's honeymoon has also gone, as it coincided with Bliar's extended and reluctant departure. Brown was between a rock and a hard place - he had to keep his gob shut and share the blame as speaking out would have been far too risky. It's not going to get any better, particularly as the wheels start to fall off the economy!
Trumpeter Lanfried:
1. I have read Barbara Tuchman's The March of Folly;
2. I have a copy of it;
3. I have read and have a copy of her wonderful biography of Enguerrand de Courcy;
What is my prize for being swot/show off of the week?
You all fret to much your like a virgin the first time quivering at the knees.After Gorden has finished you will wonder what all nervers was all about.YOU will pleased with his pofmance and want more of him!
Sir,
I feel the need to inform you that according to extensive, eu-funded research, small rodents (of whatever species) do not bounce. They go splat. Very messily.
In preparation for the preedicted "Gordon Bounce" I have added the Chancellor's particulars (likely aerodynamics, cuteness factor etc etc) into my Rodent Splat Radius Predictor. Suffice to say that the event will be spectacular but messy.
My considered opinion is that the street cleaning crews of Westminster need to be placed on alert and diversions may need to be applied to regular traffic flows for some days after the elections.
I trust this helps.
Yours,
G Mengele (Dr)
EU-Animal Experimentation
Rodent Aerodynamics Division
Even the man's boss has declared he's a CLUNKER, and still the gutless Labour MP's mindlessly follow along behind the Scottish bully boy, and their eventual reward - ELECTORAL OBLIVION!!
Let us not forget that after the excitement has died down over the "cash for peerages" scandal, and the guilty have shuffled off to their cells there remains the question of what exactly happened to all that money.
And no doubt Labour's new "Greatest Leader Of All Time" will have many awkward questions to answer on that subject - is it beyond the bounds of possibility that some of the money got siphoned off into the hands of the "SITH" institute and if so who authorised those payments?
Get digging Guido, there's an even bigger story/crime waiting to be unearthed :-)
Brown almost certainly didn't write his book about heroes (any more than JFK wrote his).
Could anybody find an embittered, underpaid researcher to confirm this?
An interesting concept has just been put forward by the Clunker, and his acolytes. Apparently the Scots are only able to be "inventive" when they are being "governed" by the English!
And this is a Scot busy running down his country and its' people, in his pursuit of his own self interest(s), what a disgrace!
Labour may have offered some benefits to the Scottish people in the past but the current crowd only look as far as the preservation of their positions and personal "rewards", so come on Scotland do us all a favour and give these sleazy scumbags the biggest kicking of all time!!
The Hitch said...
Mike
Just who is gail?
'Morning fatso,this warm weather and your obesity causing a bit of a pong throughout the forum,you are obviously a chubby who does not rate personal hygiene highly enough I feel.
Mike,
Please let me know when you're 10th birthday is so that I can send you a present.
ps I will need your address
Voters have already factored in a Brown leadership when answering the question 'how will you vote at the general election'. Given this fact the Tory lead has slipped slightly in both yougov and ICM. Far from Labour dipping in the polls even respected pollsters such as Anthony Wells expects a Labour bounce when Blair steps down.Whether the bounce can be sustained remains to be seen.At the moment Cameron only needs mid term government unpopularity, that will change at some stage and we'll see if he's just the Tories Neil Kinnock.
"is it beyond the bounds of possibility that some of the money got siphoned off into the hands of the "SITH" institute and if so who authorised those payments?"
Maybe it funded Lee Harvey Oswald and the spaceship that crashed at Roswell too? The more I read the comments at Guido's blog the more I begin to realise that Guido's pasting on Newsnight was actually a public service by the BBC....huraah for the license fee..
the doomed anonLemmings are actually rationalising their imminent dive. That Gordon is deeply despised by so, so many is good for Labour how exactly ?
Bebopper
I'm with you on this one - if he did find time to write a book he is clearly not devoting adequate attention to being chancellor, a constituency MP and the father of two small children, let alone making all those sandwiches when he hosts the Sith meetings.
"the doomed anonLemmings are actually rationalising their imminent dive. That Gordon is deeply despised by so, so many is good for Labour how exactly"
Mid term unpopularity is entirely different from being despised.Gordon Brown may not be into hugging seals or having carefully staged open neck shirt moments like Cameron but when the voters with mortgages and jobs step into those polling booths I suspect Cameron will look as attractive to the voters as Kinnock did in 1992.Voters are funny like that.
"Voters would far prefer to live under a Cameron government than..."
Is this as in: 'I'd rather eat cat poo than...'
Labour MPs know they'll lose next time, but this is about their pensions: the longer they stay in power/in their seats, the better pension they'll get, and they know Gordon won't go to the country until the last possible moment (because he too knows this is his last drink in the last chance saloon)so they'll all maximise their tax-paid pension benefits before they're booted out. They'll be laughing.
Ha ha - reading all the comments from the NuLab Astro Stooges has certainly lightened up my morning. The man is positively LOATHED and DESPISED by the man in the street.
Creepy Gordon Brown is as popular as a pile of steaming dog shit on the carpet - you poor deluded fools.
"Mid term unpopularity is entirely different from being despised"
Absolutely right and Gordon is manifestly despised, let's not be coy.
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