Sith's Allies Fightback
Will Hutton, failed ex-stockbroker, failed ex-editor, has been wheeled out to provide covering fire for the Smith Institute in the Guardian. According to Hutton, saying there is in fact something very sleazy about the cozy Gordon/Treasury/Sith nexus, is some kind of attack on democracy. (Incidentally, Will, we have previous).
What is democratic about holding private meetings behind closed doors? What is democratic about the Treasury quietly paying £11,000 to the Smith Institute for arranging 2 meetings on it's behalf, but not charging the self-same Smith Institute a single penny for holding 165 meetings on it's premises? Isn't that anti-democratic? Isn't that something we should openly shine a light on? Gordon's Treasury tax-kickback-subsidised charity paying Bob Shrum to devise an anti-Cameron strategy, is that something we should keep secret?
What is democratic about holding private meetings behind closed doors? What is democratic about the Treasury quietly paying £11,000 to the Smith Institute for arranging 2 meetings on it's behalf, but not charging the self-same Smith Institute a single penny for holding 165 meetings on it's premises? Isn't that anti-democratic? Isn't that something we should openly shine a light on? Gordon's Treasury tax-kickback-subsidised charity paying Bob Shrum to devise an anti-Cameron strategy, is that something we should keep secret?What is democratic about using Tom Watson MP to spread the most vile false smear campaign against Guido the week after he made an official complaint against the Smith Institute? Even by the shrill standards of the blogosphere it was a step too far that forced Guido to threaten immediate High Court action against Gordon's failed putsch leader. When they are cornered they fight hard and dirty.
Now a statutory authority has issued a direction threatening Guido with contempt of court, imprisonment and fines unless Guido hands over documents obtained from whistleblowers. Guido will provide evidence of the Sith's wrongdoing, but he intends to protect his sources as well. Now I'm off for a drink...
Now a statutory authority has issued a direction threatening Guido with contempt of court, imprisonment and fines unless Guido hands over documents obtained from whistleblowers. Guido will provide evidence of the Sith's wrongdoing, but he intends to protect his sources as well. Now I'm off for a drink...
72 comments:
1984/Zimbabwe aren't a patch on this lot.
Ah, fear is a wonderful thing, and your campaign has clearly hit an exceedingly raw nerve. What publicity you will get if you stick to your guns, and how bad Sith will look. Which is why I bet it is a bluff.....
And PS, if they do bang you up I am very happy to arrange a whip round for Mrs. Fawkes.
"Democracies are operationalised by political parties .."
My God, with that as an opening phrase I can see why he's a failed ex-editor!
BTW, Guido (with my wannabee editor's hat on), the possessive is "its".
It's time you got some legal advice, Guido. Good luck.
Guido - it could just be my shitty computer, but that link doesn't seem to work.
Guido remember the British public are always on the side the little man ,when big goverment tries to sharpen it's sword on him.
Sorry, it IS my shitty computer.
As you were.
Good on you Guido. Keep up the good work.
my knowledge of the law in this area is sketchy; What happens if Guido simply publishes the lot?
Can they take you to court to force you to reveal your sources? I know a court probably could force you under Section 10 of the Contempt of Court Act 1981, but how would they get you in front of the court in the first place? Maybe Mrs Fawkes could guest-blog on the topic...!
You little fuck. You don't know the first thing about democracy. Labour are in power. DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
You're going down, you little prick.
This could come down to which wing of the Labour party is holding Suzi Leather's markers following her meteoric rise...
Find a safe house. Quickly.
Will Hutton was a miserable excuse of an economist, who was an anti-Tory and NuLab toadie. The BBC loved using him for his, "expert economist" point-of-view, in the '90s, to slag off Tory policy, saying how rotten it was that we were becoming a service led economy, then the hypocritical bastard was on TV with Peter Snow a couple of weeks back, saying how good it was that we were able to replace manufacturing with services!! Now that there had been 10 years of NuLab you mean Will!
GUIDO - GO MAN GO!!!
As I am a little new to this game bear with me please....
Surely Democracies are entrusted to varying political parties by their electorate rather than being defined by these politicians!
If the politicians are corrupt and abuse this trust they must be stopped by attack and removed.
Perhaps Tom Steimberg's pledgebank development could be harnassed to set up a fighting fund in support of Gee..dough.
You have my pledge for say up to £10!!
Just in case anyone was wondering why the sources should be protected.
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/dec/ifj-sources-handbook.pdf
Hutton is an economic illiterate. In the State We're In, he urged us to follow the German and Japanese models. Astonishingly poor judgment with hindsight.
Stick to your guns, Guido. We smell their fear.
We'll send you a cake Guido.
Stay on target Guido ...
If there's one thing you can be sure of it's that the Goblin King will not want a court case involving this.
The nastiness has probably only just begun and you can probably expect a lot worse if it doesn't all go away.
So let me get this straight...
1. A member of the public reports a poltician's agents to the relevant authority for breaking charity law and effectively stealing taxpayers' money.
2. Said relevant authority reluctantly starts an investigation but seems far more interested in putting the member of public in prison.
I see a human rights case coming here. Where do we make donations to your legal fund?
Stick to your guns Guido - governments should be afraid of their people ...
Guido you are splendid !
Time to get the New York Times and Matt Drudge involved and Der Spiegel.
Will Hutton is just a whiner - a Socialist who is just pathetic and simply ineffectual. Had he not been a journalist he should have tried teaching
If Hutton is as good at this as his previous jobs Guido can sleep easy.
Not only should governments be afraid of the people this government and its mates at the charities commision are showing not only just how shit scared their really are of all ordinary people. But also what tottal contempt they have for them anyway.
If you have the balls for a fight,and you can live without the Mrs for a month or two, may I sugest you tell them to "sod off" and that " I will see you in court, you fascist pigs."
Keep the pile cream and the tooth brush handy.
Perhaps I'm outdated now but I thought that "both" referred to two things. Which two of: "both right, centre and left" is not clear from the article.
It appears the Charity Commission are discourging people from mking complaints. I thought that was their purpose.
Is the Charity Commission just another Labour quango who members are happy to take the rewards but not the responiblity?
Go Guido!
Me thinks thou has them on da run.
Things must be desperate on the browners team when they have to roll out a James Blunt like Hutton to defend them
Total solidarity Guido. This is a disgrace and an abuse of what the legislation was intended for.
No wonder this lot were right up Berlusconi's arse, bastards the lot of them.
So the Charities Commissioners are useless snotty gits - but surely quite useful ones if Guido really has anything at all of any seriousness. I think they are hoping that Guido will provide SFA which will enable them to say they have had an investigation and the blogger's allegations had nothing at all in any documentary form to back them up.
Time to put up or shut up, Guido...
4:58p i spy strangers "... the possessive is "its""
No - in Tyndale's English, the possessive of "it" was "his"
'The State We're In', failed to sell for a penny on ebay on Tuesday....
I bet a lot of people are off for a drink...
Looks like the government is trying to hang the treasonous Guido Fawkes.
Spend some time in jail Guido, by all accounts that Judith Miller of the New York Times quite enjoyed her time behind bars.
Fucking outstanding, Guido! Why in the name of god is Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition not making a huge amount of political capital out of this?
Labour are using PUBLIC MONEY, through a charitable think-tank, to devise political strategies against the Tories and keeping high profile MP's to be in well paid 'employment' before taking up their seats!!!
This is corruption, pure and simple.
Defy the bastards Guido.
Tell them to go to hell.
time to take Shami Chakrawotsit out and buy her a very public beer, then just ignore them.
100,000 folks out hunting every week show just how utterly incapable nulab are of anything more than bombast and bluster !
His comments, though crapulous, were mostly harmless.
I don't interpret them as a conspiracy to shut you down, even though there probably is one.
I personally doubt whether Will Hutton has talked to anybody but his pet budgie recently.
I am slightly suprised at just how few months it has taken for Guido to be threatened with court action involving imprisonment or asset seisure. Its more subtle but not far removed from this situation in Zimbabwe.
Yet they are men of straw. When faced with the maelstrom of publicity that bringing charges into open court would yield, then, a backdown would result.
I suspect you have most of your assets out of reach. So on behalf of myself and the millions like me would you please call their bluff?
Co-operate where it harms them. Refuse when is aids them. Then we'll see if they are made of straw.
Good work, do keep it up. You are reaching a wider audience than you might think.
ANDY
If you can't do the time don't do the crime...
The Smith Institute says :
"Britain is a better country because of the choices that voters made in 1997, 2001 and 2005...."
The Charity commission says:
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publications/cc9.asp#17
" 48. Following the principles, it is acceptable for a charity to advocate support for a particular policy, even if that policy solution is advocated by a political party or candidate, providing the policy is in furtherance of the charity's purposes. However a charity must not support a political party or candidate. "
On March 15th the regulators state that 5,615 out of the 21,000 registered charities in Scotland will have their charitable status removed because they have been unable to keep up with the tsunami of paperwork that has been unleashed on them by Brown's Labour. It's patently clear that small charities with genuine causes are being strangled at the same time as these smug, arrogant b******s milk the system for their own benefit. Brown typifies just what is wrong.
Labour isn’t working, it’s grafting.
Tom Watson is pretty despicable, after he said how much he liked Guido previously, to now come up with these smears.
Play the ball, guys.
I like your tights Guido, you are just as sexy as ever despite what they say.
No comments since 5.14pm! Have you been arrested already Guido?
The direction against Mr Staines, under Section 8(3) of the Charities Act 1993, asks for “documents in your custody or under your control relating to political activity by the Smith Institute”.
But actually it really says:
(3) For the purposes of any such inquiry the Commissioners, or a person appointed by them to conduct it, may direct any person (subject to the provisions of this section)—
(a) to furnish accounts and statements in writing with respect to any matter in question at the inquiry, being a matter on which he has or can reasonably obtain information, or to return answers in writing to any questions or inquiries addressed to him on any such matter, and to verify any such accounts, statements or answers by statutory declaration;
(b) to furnish copies of documents in his custody or under his control which relate to any matter in question at the inquiry, and to verify any such copies by statutory declaration;
(c) to attend at a specified time and place and give evidence or produce any such documents.
I'd just plead that it is not 'reasonably' ok to produce said documents, nor to sacrifice your sources to 'verify' accounts etc. and ask them for a re-interpretation of that clause. Sufficient to send then into a huddled mass I should hope.
Guido you do have some balls.Alright if i watch from a safe distance ?
"The biggest dare is to tell the truth"..
From that great philosopher of our time - Madonna.
The Charity Commission is certainly a thoroughly inept organisation but once they (finally) decide to act the effect on an errant charity can be pretty devastating.
Unfortunately, they share with the CRE authority (and an inclinitation) to act in an extraordinarily intrusive, oppressive and unaccountable manner when "investigating".I am sure they would say you can't just make unsubstantiated accusations without provoking this sort of thing. But of course they don't give a toss about protecting your sources.
So be careful, Companero - you don't want to end up sharing a cell with Levy, do you?
Enjoyed the paper on "The State We're In". I knew that Hutton's work was idiocy from the excerpts I had read from it, but have no background in economics so I learnt a lot.
You little fuck. You don't know the first thing about democracy. Labour are in power. DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
You're going down, you little prick.
Speak for yourself. That pack of spivs, bullies and cheats called the Labour party (which didn't win the 2005 popular vote in England, btw) will soon be going down the pan with the rest of the turds. Good riddance and good on Guido!
More power to your elbow young Guido.
I wonder if Michael Mansfield QC reads this blog. He'd make mince meat of them.
If you need to set up a legal fighting fund put me down for a tenner. On second thoughts make that fifteen.
Do you take PayPal?
As others have remarked on this thread, Hutton is a joke as an economist. The State We're In simply recycles myths that were old hat back in the 80's, when my non-economist friends used to hurl them at me from time to time. I can add an experience of my own to this. I worked as a government economist for a while. Will Hutton produced a piece attacking my department and its work, root and branch, and made a number of predictions. Not a single one of them came true, and most developments were in the opposite direction to what he predicted. It was something of a masterpiece, even for the Observer. And we're still waiting for the retraction and apology.
Someone get the tories to learn how to hum the 'emperors' march theme from star wars every time gordo slinks into the commons for PMQs
oh and buy him a black helmet too...
Good on you Guido.
The only result of them attacking you would be that the non blogging community would get to hear about all this.
Anonymous said [5:36]...
You're going down, you little prick.
Said the 6' 6" armed blagger to Lord Levy, as he handed his prison bitch a tube of lipstick the moment the cell door was slammed shut for the night.
At 9:36 PM, jailhouselawyer said...
If you can't do the time don't do the crime...
And I guess you know all about doing the crime, eh?
might be time to get the troops to e-mail their MP's, urging them to ensure vigilence against nulab apologists on the charities commision wriggling out of this.
It works both ways , once they realise that their actions will come under public scrutiny.
Surely all of the evidence they need is available in the treasury accounts - cost to the public of entertaining Sith 195 times at a W1 venue = x , received from Sith 0, therefore y is the number of years jail brown gets for fraud.
jailhouselawyer said...
If you can't do the time don't do the crime...
Curious, how many times was your arsehole split open?
When doing time, are lubricants freely available for use in greaseing ones ring piece?
Guido, your spelling and grammar may be dodgy, but you've got guts.
Remember: the truth will always come out in the end.
Also (of course): they don't like it up 'em.
String it out as long as possible. The suspicious fact that a complainant who threatens Broon's cosy little charity is being threatened in turn will not be lost on the British public.
If disclosure of the documents is required (which would possibly indicate a case is being prepared following submission of a dossier) then the sources are surely immaterial.
This plays very well so far....crusading blogger exposes corruption reaching to the next PM and the system tries to crush him!
Peanut-brained anonymong said...
You don't know the first thing about democracy. Labour are in power.
There's a difference between democracy and elected dictatorship. Labour were elected to restore faith in politics and politicians!
"You little fuck. You don't know the first thing about democracy. Labour are in power. DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
You're going down, you little prick."
Who let the 12 year old in the room?
Shockingly enough, in a proper democracy, people aren't banged up for opposing and investigating the government.
Oh, and what percentage of the electorate voted for Labour in 2005? Was it 21%? Or 25%? One of those.
"Shockingly enough, in a proper democracy, people aren't banged up for opposing and investigating the government.
Oh, and what percentage of the electorate voted for Labour in 2005? Was it 21%? Or 25%? One of those."
Exactly, proper democracy would appear to be a bit of an oxymoron judging by those figures.
So let me get this straight:
1. Guido makes allegations against a charity
2. Guido threatens to complain to the Charities Commission
3. Guido complains to the Charities Commision
4. Charities Commission asks for evidence for complaint
5. Guido refuses
6. Swivel-eyed loons on here start carping on about a police state.
Couldn't we have just skipped 1-5 and gone straight to point 6? Always worked in the past...
You little fuck. You don't know the first thing about democracy. Labour are in power. DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
What!? On 22.something of the electorate...Oh, please...
I think it's Nulab/Labour that's goin' down!!!
The BBC hatchet piece on you, which I thought worked as a decent advertisement also suggested legislation.
Maybe if they cannot get you on this, as with Bran Haw you will get your own bill in Parliament.
They could of course prosecute you for promoting terrorism because of the your attachment to Gunpowder Plot.
Guido
Superman
Get in the phone box - get your suit on
They Evil Ones are rattled, but you have hit the raw nerve,
Don't worry, the Brown Monster is in the death throes
just get out there and let the people speak
take off your glasses, you really are a super Hero
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