I still don't think Blair's going to cop it unless Levy fingers him. I think Levy might not come back from Israel though. Do we have an extradition treaty with Israel?
Police release CCTV images of man in Cash for Honours scandal! http://newsbiscuit.com/article/police-release-cctv-images-of-man-in-cash-for-honours-scandal
Watch for the tipping point which should be coming shortly...this is looking really bad for Blair.
- Tony's excuse (sorry evidence) claiming they were party peerages unravels [check] - Tony legs it hoping to dodge difficult questions until after Christmas [check] - Tony nominates the fall guy (Levy) in his evidence, contradicting his (Levy's) evidence [check] - The fall guy Levy refuses to fall [check] - Tony's collegues that could be hit with collateral damage to their political careers attempt to scramble clear (Brown in the Sunday press) [check] - Evidence of guilt (Offers of P's and K's) emerges [check] - Pissed off rich guy emerges with evidence that contadicts Tony's [check]
....it only needs one more domino to fall for Tony to be in an untenable position.....Is it the showbiz figure? Very tabloid friendly....
Perhaps the No.10 and other Labour party officials should make themselves familiar with the common law of Perverting the course of Justice To help them, here is a link : http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section22/chapter_a.html#05
In the combined legal view over here you'd be better coughing for PPERA 2000 or Honours (Prevention of Abuse) 1925 as perverting the course of justice carries a sentence of up to and including life imprisonment
It was Michael barrymore He misheard what Levy really said was "Im looking at a gay for a donation, can you help"? Cliff Richard although hard of hearing wasnt involved.
We have to hand it to Guido. This is proceeding at an excruciating PACE, but it looks like it might end up with Tony in another place than the Other Place. We must pray for the soul of his cellmate who probably never expected to fall in with quite such a bad crowd.
Imagine being banged up with Blair as he has another of his faultering Princes Di moment... the hands ... tears....and that intimate moment when he tells all Sherry B's intimate details....
So how would Insp knacker be able to prove that evidence was missing? Maybe left on the hard drive of a pc is the evidence that a wonk had deleted from their email box after the request?
the details are in the main servers, which are curently fully avaliable, after a little stress from the security forces.....all it takes are a few calls, and Downing Street has its own secure and fully recorded arrangments..its not PC World there you know, lol...
Frankly I’m concerned about the significant lack of “anons” telling us it’s a non-story today.
I know they must be frightfully busy in the bunker at the moment, but exactly how many spinners does it take to light a bonfire?
Surely one of them could spare a moment away from the shredder to tell us that that Guido’s been barking up the wrong tree and that the real dirt is still yet to come on Cameron…
Ben - BASTARD !!! You think shredding is so bloody easy don't you ?? It ain't, it is very technical. Did you know that you have to oil frequently for it to maintain effective performance. [That's the shredder].
Do you know that if you get your tie caught, it can cause VERY expensive repair bills. And we aren't exactly in a position where we can just 'call out an engineer', if you know what I mean.
I've been thinking of popping round to Tony's gaffe in the countryside, and lighting a little 'fire in the grate'.
Although the rozzers are watching that place like a hawk.
Re: the abscence of 'anon' posts from Number 10. I really do think you're exagerrating the importance of this blog. They may not like it, they may occasionally read it, but I would be very surprised if anyone from inside government actually posted here.
Of course there may be saddo's still sympathetic to Labour posting pathetic defences of Blair et al. That's different.
His Grace is bemused by all the unthinking dimwits proposing names who already possess knighthoods.
It has to be a celebrity of stature, one who already possesses some officership of the Order of the British Empire, or the straight move to a 'K' would appear more than suspicious. This person would have national, if not international, credibility; and links to the Labour Party that pre-date its 'new' incarnation, establishing political longevity rather than the transience of celebrity.
Mr Anonymous (4.09) suggests Patrick Stewart OBE. A highly intelligent guess, and this is also Cranmer's conjecture. Yet he appears far too much of a gentleman to behave in such a caddish fashion... unless he knows something we do not, or has been offered something beyond a 'K'...
'Worth a K'? Possibly - after all, no one'll want to pay more than a K for a peerage now...Personally, I'd pay a great deal more than that to avoid being 'honoured' by this dishonorable government.
The publicity obsessed clown Beckham and his queen of the chavs wife have been lobbying hard for a gong. Blair considered it but has been told it would be unwise as the Beckhams are now considered, passe, unpopular, and exceedingly naff.
Peter Hitchens said... It was Michael barrymore He misheard what Levy really said was "Im looking at a gay for a donation, can you help"? Cliff Richard although hard of hearing wasnt involved.
Stop it Hitchens, he's officially radio rental. Even you should draw the line at baiting nutters - besides, he knows your real name and where you live.
I thought you'd have guessed it by now...it is Richard Wilson, aka: Victor Meldrew.
This odious little oink was a Labour arse licker way before Blair came on the scene and they've been using him incessantly to push their agenda for years.
Being old and moron labour, he has finally snapped and decided to spill the beans. His price was a little too high anyways as he isn't that rich, so he thought he might as well dob them in.
peter hitchins: I am aware that you are not the real thing. If you have not got a criminal record yet, you are fast on the way to getting one. Internet stalking and hate crime are taken very seriously by the relevant authorities. If you think you can hide behind another name and not be tracked down, think again because your ISP will shop you quicker than the check out at Tesco.
wrinkled weasel: As it happens, I have a certificate proving my sanity, which is more than can be said for some.
"jailhouse lawyer" I am not a stalker nor do I preach hate, I merely expressed my disgust at having to share space with a somebody who is an habitual criminal, a murderer and who "supports" other such scum, all seasoned with a huge pinch of self righteousness . I note your implicit threat. Shame you didnt have as much repsect for the law when you were on your killing and thieving spree isnt it?
lack of irony, delusions of grandeur, sense of victimhood . Hirst you are an obvious sociopath, that was apparent even before we knew you were a murderer
margorie: The Parole Board only requies me to have insight into the offence, and the Parole Board were so satisfied.
"peter hitchins": That would be for a jury to decide if and when presented with the evidence. You are free to express your disgust. You do not have to share space with me, you choose to blog, I assure you that you do not even get close to my personal space. Hardly habitual, no offence since 1979. A murderer is someone who is convicted of murder. It is a libel to refer to me being one. So is calling me scum. I do not support scum, I support human beings. Scum is the residue from taking a bath. When I am right, I am right, which is not the same as being self righteous. It was not implicit, but a expressed legal threat. Hardly a killing spree, once. I learnt my lesson. Oxford is not the only seat of learning.
Occasionally, the Parole Board gets it tragically wrong.
"peter hitchins" Psychiatrist now are we? Actually, I have a very good sense of irony which is unusual for someone with Aspergers Syndrome (a form of autism).
Mr Hirst like all of your kind you are hiding your guilt behind the veil of victimhood, and I note that your first line of defence against me rattling your cage was to threaten me with legal action, using the system you so despise. Well, go ahead (+: I know something about prison, I have been there, and I recognise your type all too well.
jailhouse lawyer you may be, but jailhouse psychiatrist you aint. Aspergers syndrome is another excuse, a cop out for a "health professional" to avoid saying "this guys a fucking nut and I haven't a clue what to do with him" An obsessive. Classic psychopath
"peter hitchins": I hope for your sake you can back your psychopath claim up because the State accepted it was wrong and I have one hell of a report that your lawyer will have difficulty disproving in libel proceedings.
You pathetic little man Hirst none of us give a fuck about you, just clear off back under your stone you spineless piece of crap. and keep threatening , it makes me laugh on (+:
If that is your true name, then I agree you may have been libelled. Otherwise, you have merely engaged in an online slanging match, with all parties hiding behind pseudonyms. I suggest you find out what libel is before threatening legal proceedings. Also I trust you have very deep pockets indeed, because libel is a rich man's game -- you cannot get legal aid in such cases.
I hope this advice is helpful. My bill is in the post.
Did you ever sit in the old Transvaal Supreme Court. I seem to remember Mr Mervis once appeared in front of you. Quite a stern judge you were. Or as Hitch would say "not to be fucked with"
1 has a grandiose sense of self-importance 2 is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3 believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people 4 requires excessive admiration 5 strong sense of entitlement 6 takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends 7 lacks empathy 8 is often envious or believes others are envious of him or her
mr justice cocklecarrot: I agree with your judgment, I am linked to my name via my nick. I know what libel is. Normally it is the preserve of the rich. The McLibel Two were poor. I am a man of straw, and do not need legal aid for this.
dr crackers: There is no trade, it is one side firing insults, and the other being the voice of reason. If only it were true that it was reserved for the printed page.
What a liberty! Jailhouselawyer has traded plenty of insults, to Hitch inparticular. He can hardly be surprised to get a response. Maybe this is his way of trying to make a living (between signing on).
Peter that describes 90% of all men under 40 and you are now shifting into homophobic rant mode. Besides you have your self have admitted to being in prison (pot-kettle-black) and are you not getting a wee bit obsessive about this.
jailhouselawyer : the traffic may be more one way than the other but the blog is not the place for talk of legal action. Justice Cocklecarrot may not remember the Roman Law principle of 'Volenti non fit iniuria' since he last practiced in the old Transvaal many decades ago. If you do dangerous things injury may follow and there is no recourse. In the case of blog comment you accept all the risks to personal reputation that is inherent in engaging in this media. Happy xmas
my "crome" was victimless , not only that but I have paid fortunes in taxes and served my country. This stain has done nothing other than kill, steal and bilk the system. You dont get life for pinching a bag of sweets. Come on Mr big bad jailhouse lawyer , whose child did you kill and in whar circumstance?
margorie: I assure you it is one sided, I pick my words carefully. Liberty is a fine thing. I make my living as a prison law and media consultant. You can see me on 18doughtystreet.com in the New Year, and learn how I defeated the State. Now the government is squirming.
you cunt! in your perverted mind you have convinced yourself that just because you have hoist another bunch of cunts with their own petard that you have somehow chieved a moral victory?
18/11/2006 "I step backwards into the sitting room and, as I go, see a calendar on the wall, which has "Sign on" scribbled in pencil, and nothing else, two Mondays a fortnight apart."
peter hitchins: It's called a legal victory, and is a political victory, which is more than the Tories can claim. It may upset you that I am famous, and that I have made history. Nevertheless, I wish you a Happy Christmas.
oh its all the fault of the "tories" is it? hey ,you want the dialogue and want to be accepted back into society to put you agenda across so come on , who did you kill and why? if you are reformed you should be able to discuss that.
Hirst Don't kid yourself "you" have achieved fuck all apart from throwing your and somebody else's life away. Some smelly low rent left wing lawyer used you and my taxes to make a name for themselves, and not even a very big name, until I read your blog details you didn't exist .So who did you kill and why?
haddock: wins the Xmas quiz. Sorry, Peter you get the consolation prize. Put the following into Google, John Hirst prison law, jailhouselawyer, prisonlawinsideout, prisonersvoice.blogspot.com its all out in the public domain. I have nothing to hide. Why don't you come out of the closet?
Er, Peter Hitchens, Jailhouse et al -- I come here to read about Bliar and the Project sliding down the slope into the shit-vat, not the pointless crap above. You no doubt find it fascinating -- I'm one of the 99.99% who don't.
"peter hitchins": I hope for your sake you can back your psychopath claim up because the State accepted it was wrong and I have one hell of a report that your lawyer will have difficulty disproving in libel proceedings.
This is getting boring...but you seem to think that because you spent time in jail you are not, now, a murdering piece of shit scumbag...you are exactly that. now fuck off and die like your victim.
Hitchens...don't feed his sociopathic tendencies by giving him a stage in which to explain why he is now a good person..he is murdering scum who would have swung and should still if there was any real justice.
Shame you couldn't have pulled the old "diminished responsibility" get out plea for yourself.
Fucking shame on you Hirst Our good host not only had to put up with Hanging but also having his vitals ripped out and his balls cut off, all for doing what 99% of the population would love to do (heres a clue it wasn't murdering our land ladies) Just fuck off! Guido he knows where we all live.
I offer no apology as I feel one is not necessary from my end. However, I accept your suggestion twice. "Peter hitchens" should have known better, and he cannot distinguish the real from the fake.
I logged on here tonight to try to read up on some of the weird and dubious stories whitewashing our rotten Government especially the annointed "Brown", not only because I don't support them but also because I would like to have the mendacious lying cheats brought to book. Instead there is all this stuff. Please accept Mr Fawkes suggestion to take your no doubt important arguement elsewhere - sorry to be disloyal Mr H. but there it is!
Is it that knobhead Bono that is about to spill the beans on Blair. Bono the pretentious Moron who compared Blair and Brown to Lennon and Mc'Cartney. More like Pinky and Perky.
The recent story about Bono at a concert in Ireland makes me laugh. He appeals for silence and then slowly claps his hands. " Every time I clap my hands a child dies of hunger in Africa."
From the audience a bloke shouts out... "Well stop clapping your fucking hands then."
Er, why is anyone taking any notice at all of a murderer who thinks that remorse for taking life is time-limited and "a middle class thing" (whatever that means)? Where I live, he wouldn't be given even the time of day. In the US, he would not have been given time at all and he would be either on Death Row now or no longer walking the earth.
anonymous 11.20: I don't normally respond to anonymous posts, because I cannot see the need to hide if one has something to say in public, but I don't live in a hole I live in a very nice three bedroom mid-terrace house. I cannot contaminate this blog more than it is already contaminated. Like shit it attracts a lot of flies. Yes, Andrew O'Hagan's article was not the most sympathetic ever written about me. There again, he usually writes for the Torygraph, and he is not Guardian material. You do not pay taxes to keep me alive, it's called the cost of living in a capitalist society. Actually, a friend bought me the computer for a present last Christmas. You do like the word contaminate, don't you, as you raised it, society in this country is already contaminated and I fail to see how my breath of fresh air makes it any worse. Probably, makes it better. No, I won't go away, I am here to stay. Like it or lump it.
anonymous 11.22: I have no way of knowing whether you are the same poster as above. I don't think anything of the sort because it is not true. I will die when it is my time and not your's.
I don't need the fake peter hitchens for a stage. According to David Niven the whole world is a stage. I have my own public platform. People convicted of manslaughter don't swing as you put it. Only those convicted of murder did that. There is real justice, I have proved it but you need to fight for it and not just talk about it.
morning..is this still the blog on Knighthoods...can I have one please...I'm in the school panto on Thursday and I thought it would go down well...as a joke...
Vietnam-what. You are surely not comparing yourself with US military veterans?
I've still got Christmas cards to deliver, and a package of modelling clay to track down at the sorting office, so I can't spend any more time on JHL - however, I gather from your attempt at being delphic that your bookshelves are loaded with the sort of book about Vietnam that make you feel pretentiously better about what you did (which was, in fact, indefensible). Some people will do anything not to own their culpability.
jailhouselawyer 8.52: "According to David Niven the whole world is stage".
I'm sorry, but this is taking ignorant twattishness to new levels. Ever heard of Shakespeare, fool? "All the world's a stage" - suggest you do some homework.
Alternatively, read "The Moon's a Balloon" by David Niven.
"Yes, Andrew O'Hagan's article was not the most sympathetic ever written about me. There again, he usually writes for the Torygraph, and he is not Guardian material." - JHL
Not the most sympathetic?! How could anyone, from whatever paper, write a version of events that would sympathetic to this killer? Impossible. JHL is missing the point by a mile.
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Was that Sir Cliff Richards? Now highly pissed off after the Government backed off intellectual rights
Bet it's not 'Sir' Rory Bremner!
Or 'Sir' Paul Daniels (he'd have magicked himself one)
Got to be Sir Alvin Stardust, Levy's most successful pop artiste!
My good wife imforms me that a 'K' means something very different when used by certain types of people offering certain types of 'service'.
This is probably a story from Downing Street. Levy is being set up as the patsy to take the heat from Blair.
Now Blair seems doomed to a prison sentence people seem prepared to come out and tell the truth.
Tell me when you hear the gunshot from the bunker.
Agree with Moni. Is Levy accompanying Bliar? Is he still the Govt. Middle East man?
I still don't think Blair's going to cop it unless Levy fingers him. I think Levy might not come back from Israel though. Do we have an extradition treaty with Israel?
Police release CCTV images of man in Cash for Honours scandal! http://newsbiscuit.com/article/police-release-cctv-images-of-man-in-cash-for-honours-scandal
"I still don't think Blair's going to cop it unless Levy fingers him."
Easing the passage of executive action? I thought that was Carol Caplin's job!
http://newsbiscuit.com/article/police-release-cctv-images-of-man-in-cash-for-honours-scandal
Very funny.
There's a picture at the bottom of either Tony practising for his next interview with Yates or his new role in prison.
Watch for the tipping point which should be coming shortly...this is looking really bad for Blair.
- Tony's excuse (sorry evidence) claiming they were party peerages unravels [check]
- Tony legs it hoping to dodge difficult questions until after Christmas [check]
- Tony nominates the fall guy (Levy) in his evidence, contradicting his (Levy's) evidence [check]
- The fall guy Levy refuses to fall [check]
- Tony's collegues that could be hit with collateral damage to their political careers attempt to scramble clear (Brown in the Sunday press) [check]
- Evidence of guilt (Offers of P's and K's) emerges [check]
- Pissed off rich guy emerges with evidence that contadicts Tony's [check]
....it only needs one more domino to fall for Tony to be in an untenable position.....Is it the showbiz figure? Very tabloid friendly....
Is it a Cheeky Girl?
Perhaps the No.10 and other Labour party officials should make themselves familiar with the common law of Perverting the course of Justice
To help them, here is a link :
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section22/chapter_a.html#05
In the combined legal view over here you'd be better coughing for PPERA 2000 or Honours (Prevention of Abuse) 1925 as perverting the course of justice carries a sentence of up to and including life imprisonment
The anons are slowing backing off.
It was Michael barrymore
He misheard
what Levy really said was "Im looking at a gay for a donation, can you help"?
Cliff Richard although hard of hearing wasnt involved.
We have to hand it to Guido. This is proceeding at an excruciating PACE, but it looks like it might end up with Tony in another place than the Other Place. We must pray for the soul of his cellmate who probably never expected to fall in with quite such a bad crowd.
Imagine being banged up with Blair as he has another of his faultering Princes Di moment... the hands ... tears....and that intimate moment when he tells all Sherry B's intimate details....
So how would Insp knacker be able to prove that evidence was missing? Maybe left on the hard drive of a pc is the evidence that a wonk had deleted from their email box after the request?
the details are in the main servers, which are curently fully avaliable, after a little stress from the security forces.....all it takes are a few calls, and Downing Street has its own secure and fully recorded arrangments..its not PC World there you know, lol...
The Magnet magnate and some of his stars
L-R: Alvin Stardust; Lord Levy & Phony Tony; Buster Bloodvessel & Bad Manners
"Red Zeppelin: Gasbag Blair is About to Explode"
http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/gasbag.html
Frankly I’m concerned about the significant lack of “anons” telling us it’s a non-story today.
I know they must be frightfully busy in the bunker at the moment, but exactly how many spinners does it take to light a bonfire?
Surely one of them could spare a moment away from the shredder to tell us that that Guido’s been barking up the wrong tree and that the real dirt is still yet to come on Cameron…
I hope Tony is oiling his bumhole as we speak.
Don't want him to tear, that would be an abuse of his human rights.
Ben - BASTARD !!! You think shredding is so bloody easy don't you ?? It ain't, it is very technical. Did you know that you have to oil frequently for it to maintain effective performance. [That's the shredder].
Do you know that if you get your tie caught, it can cause VERY expensive repair bills. And we aren't exactly in a position where we can just 'call out an engineer', if you know what I mean.
I've been thinking of popping round to Tony's gaffe in the countryside, and lighting a little 'fire in the grate'.
Although the rozzers are watching that place like a hawk.
K?
The entire country must be on horse tranquiliser at the moment, for this to be taking so long. Giddy-up, Inspector Knacker.
Eddie Izzard?
Lack of anon's? It's the last working Monday before Christmas. Doh!
I was thinking Izzard as well. Who can forget that obsequious "chat" he had with the PM on the Number 10 website?
Hi Paul, wow I lurve the tie, I think pink sets you off soooo well.....
You are off beam guys.
It is superblingster DB
....bonjour Madrid himself....
...not performing currently...but making a good living out of all the nostalgia nuts...
Not Lord Beckham, but Lord Peckham, Del Boy.
Re: the abscence of 'anon' posts from Number 10. I really do think you're exagerrating the importance of this blog. They may not like it, they may occasionally read it, but I would be very surprised if anyone from inside government actually posted here.
Of course there may be saddo's still sympathetic to Labour posting pathetic defences of Blair et al. That's different.
I'm sorry to ask a stupid question but how is it you are allowed to leave the country if you are out on bail? Is Levy not considered a flight risk?
My money is on it being Patrick Stewart - Make it so
Elton John? David Bowie? Heather Mills McCartney? Michael Frayn? My money's on George Melly. Is anyone running a sweepstake on this?
Can you imagine some NuLabourite asking George Melly if he wanted to be a peer...he would piss on the guy.....
I would pay good money to watch Captain Picard spill the beans on this - how could you doubt his veracity - he's a Starfleet officer!
His Grace is bemused by all the unthinking dimwits proposing names who already possess knighthoods.
It has to be a celebrity of stature, one who already possesses some officership of the Order of the British Empire, or the straight move to a 'K' would appear more than suspicious. This person would have national, if not international, credibility; and links to the Labour Party that pre-date its 'new' incarnation, establishing political longevity rather than the transience of celebrity.
Mr Anonymous (4.09) suggests Patrick Stewart OBE. A highly intelligent guess, and this is also Cranmer's conjecture. Yet he appears far too much of a gentleman to behave in such a caddish fashion... unless he knows something we do not, or has been offered something beyond a 'K'...
'Worth a K'?
Possibly - after all, no one'll want to pay more than a K for a peerage now...Personally, I'd pay a great deal more than that to avoid being 'honoured' by this dishonorable government.
The publicity obsessed clown Beckham and his queen of the chavs wife have been lobbying hard for a gong. Blair considered it but has been told it would be unwise as the Beckhams are now considered, passe, unpopular, and exceedingly naff.
Sorry Dave, sorry Vicki.
I heard it was Paul Gadd, aka Gary Glitter!
Peter Hitchens said...
It was Michael barrymore
He misheard
what Levy really said was "Im looking at a gay for a donation, can you help"?
Cliff Richard although hard of hearing wasnt involved.
2:14 PM
Is this confirmation that Sir Cliff isn't gay?
Managed to avoid killing anybody today Mr jailhouse lawyer?
Stop it Hitchens, he's officially radio rental. Even you should draw the line at baiting nutters - besides, he knows your real name and where you live.
I thought you'd have guessed it by now...it is Richard Wilson, aka: Victor Meldrew.
This odious little oink was a Labour arse licker way before Blair came on the scene and they've been using him incessantly to push their agenda for years.
Being old and moron labour, he has finally snapped and decided to spill the beans. His price was a little too high anyways as he isn't that rich, so he thought he might as well dob them in.
Lord Hutchence of Crap Tunes
No its that plonker from Blackadder you know the one with the great newlab names "TONY" "ROBINSON"
peter hitchins: I am aware that you are not the real thing. If you have not got a criminal record yet, you are fast on the way to getting one. Internet stalking and hate crime are taken very seriously by the relevant authorities. If you think you can hide behind another name and not be tracked down, think again because your ISP will shop you quicker than the check out at Tesco.
wrinkled weasel: As it happens, I have a certificate proving my sanity, which is more than can be said for some.
Jailhouselawyer: most of us don't need a certificate to prove our sanity, so what does that say about you?
"jailhouse lawyer"
I am not a stalker nor do I preach hate, I merely expressed my disgust at having to share space with a somebody who is an habitual criminal, a murderer and who "supports" other such scum, all seasoned with a huge pinch of self righteousness .
I note your implicit threat.
Shame you didnt have as much repsect for the law when you were on your killing and thieving spree isnt it?
margorie: It says I am sane.
No insight; just as I thought.
If you have a peice of paper that says you are sane then you must be.
Lets face it the Govt never let loonies go free to kill again do they?
lack of irony, delusions of grandeur, sense of victimhood .
Hirst you are an obvious sociopath, that was apparent even before we knew you were a murderer
Jailhouselawyer: "I have no doubt you are an arrogant and dangerous person with a severe personality defect."
Ring any bells?
margorie: The Parole Board only requies me to have insight into the offence, and the Parole Board were so satisfied.
"peter hitchins": That would be for a jury to decide if and when presented with the evidence. You are free to express your disgust. You do not have to share space with me, you choose to blog, I assure you that you do not even get close to my personal space. Hardly habitual, no offence since 1979. A murderer is someone who is convicted of murder. It is a libel to refer to me being one. So is calling me scum. I do not support scum, I support human beings. Scum is the residue from taking a bath. When I am right, I am right, which is not the same as being self righteous. It was not implicit, but a expressed legal threat. Hardly a killing spree, once. I learnt my lesson. Oxford is not the only seat of learning.
Occasionally, the Parole Board gets it tragically wrong.
The parole board took rather a long time to be satisfied.
Just read this 'nice' little story. People can judge for themselves.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1949501,00.html
"peter hitchins" Psychiatrist now are we? Actually, I have a very good sense of irony which is unusual for someone with Aspergers Syndrome (a form of autism).
margorie: No, I leave that to campanologists.
Mr Hirst
like all of your kind you are hiding your guilt behind the veil of victimhood, and I note that your first line of defence against me rattling your cage was to threaten me with legal action, using the system you so despise.
Well, go ahead (+:
I know something about prison, I have been there, and I recognise your type all too well.
jailhouse lawyer you may be, but jailhouse psychiatrist you aint.
Aspergers syndrome is another excuse, a cop out for a "health professional" to avoid saying
"this guys a fucking nut and I haven't a clue what to do with him"
An obsessive.
Classic psychopath
"peter hitchins": I hope for your sake you can back your psychopath claim up because the State accepted it was wrong and I have one hell of a report that your lawyer will have difficulty disproving in libel proceedings.
You pathetic little man Hirst
none of us give a fuck about you, just clear off back under your stone you spineless piece of crap.
and keep threatening , it makes me laugh on (+:
He who laughs last laughs longest, all the way to the bank.
Well here I am awaiting you wrath (+:
Dear Mr Jailhouselawyer
If that is your true name, then I agree you may have been libelled. Otherwise, you have merely engaged in an online slanging match, with all parties hiding behind pseudonyms. I suggest you find out what libel is before threatening legal proceedings. Also I trust you have very deep pockets indeed, because libel is a rich man's game -- you cannot get legal aid in such cases.
I hope this advice is helpful. My bill is in the post.
Yours sincerely
Mr Justice Cocklecarrot
What the fuck is going on here. Trade fucking insults but fuck this talk about libel - thats for dead tree press types.
Mr Justice Cocklecarrot
Did you ever sit in the old Transvaal Supreme Court. I seem to remember Mr Mervis once appeared in front of you. Quite a stern judge you were. Or as Hitch would say "not to be fucked with"
Dear Dr Crackers
I cannot remember that particular bench, but then I am 103.
Yours sincerely
Cocklecarrot
Hirst this is just so you sweety! (+:
1 has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2 is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3 believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people
4 requires excessive admiration
5 strong sense of entitlement
6 takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7 lacks empathy
8 is often envious or believes others are envious of him or her
I bet you sucked a mile of cock on the wings didnt you Hirsty? (+:
Hmm. Sounds like that rascal Fuller, if you ask me.
He won't get it, Peter, he just won't.
mr justice cocklecarrot: I agree with your judgment, I am linked to my name via my nick. I know what libel is. Normally it is the preserve of the rich. The McLibel Two were poor. I am a man of straw, and do not need legal aid for this.
dr crackers: There is no trade, it is one side firing insults, and the other being the voice of reason. If only it were true that it was reserved for the printed page.
What a liberty! Jailhouselawyer has traded plenty of insults, to Hitch inparticular. He can hardly be surprised to get a response. Maybe this is his way of trying to make a living (between signing on).
Peter that describes 90% of all men under 40 and you are now shifting into homophobic rant mode. Besides you have your self have admitted to being in prison (pot-kettle-black) and are you not getting a wee bit obsessive about this.
jailhouselawyer : the traffic may be more one way than the other but the blog is not the place for talk of legal action. Justice Cocklecarrot may not remember the Roman Law principle of 'Volenti non fit iniuria' since he last practiced in the old Transvaal many decades ago. If you do dangerous things injury may follow and there is no recourse. In the case of blog comment you accept all the risks to personal reputation that is inherent in engaging in this media.
Happy xmas
my "crome" was victimless , not only that but I have paid fortunes in taxes and served my country.
This stain has done nothing other than kill, steal and bilk the system. You dont get life for pinching a bag of sweets.
Come on Mr big bad jailhouse lawyer , whose child did you kill and in whar circumstance?
the ghost of jacob marley: Only a wee bit?
margorie: I assure you it is one sided, I pick my words carefully. Liberty is a fine thing. I make my living as a prison law and media consultant. You can see me on 18doughtystreet.com in the New Year, and learn how I defeated the State. Now the government is squirming.
you cunt!
in your perverted mind you have convinced yourself that just because you have hoist another bunch of cunts with their own petard that you have somehow chieved a moral victory?
18/11/2006
"I step backwards into the sitting room and, as I go, see a calendar on the wall, which has "Sign on" scribbled in pencil, and nothing else, two Mondays a fortnight apart."
peter hitchins: It's called a legal victory, and is a political victory, which is more than the Tories can claim. It may upset you that I am famous, and that I have made history. Nevertheless, I wish you a Happy Christmas.
Ha ha! WTF?
oh its all the fault of the "tories" is it?
hey ,you want the dialogue and want to be accepted back into society to put you agenda across so come on , who did you kill and why?
if you are reformed you should be able to discuss that.
Hope you have a happy christmas, Jailhouselawer, and the axe doesn't slip while you are chopping those logs.
Hirst
Don't kid yourself "you" have achieved fuck all apart from throwing your and somebody else's life away. Some smelly low rent left wing lawyer used you and my taxes to make a name for themselves, and not even a very big name, until I read your blog details you didn't exist
.So who did you kill and why?
anonymous: I use a saw for the firewood. I will leave "peter hitchens" to grind his axe!
Only firewood these days?
so who did you kill Hirst?
what method did you use?
gun/knife or sanctimony?
.....sentenced to life in 1980 after he admitted the manslaughter, on the grounds of diminished responsibility, of his landlady.
telegraph.co.uk
anonymous: No, coal aswell in a smokeless zone!
haddock: wins the Xmas quiz. Sorry, Peter you get the consolation prize. Put the following into Google, John Hirst prison law, jailhouselawyer, prisonlawinsideout, prisonersvoice.blogspot.com its all out in the public domain. I have nothing to hide. Why don't you come out of the closet?
Er, Peter Hitchens, Jailhouse et al -- I come here to read about Bliar and the Project sliding down the slope into the shit-vat, not the pointless crap above. You no doubt find it fascinating -- I'm one of the 99.99% who don't.
Yes, can you two fuck off onto http://prisonersvoice.blogspot.com/ for your argument.
Jailhouse Lawyer
Please crawl into your hole and stop contaminating this blog
I have read the newspaper article.
It is sickening that I pay taxes to keep you alive, and probably for the computer to let you contaminate society
Please just go away
NOW
jailhouselawyer said...
"peter hitchins": I hope for your sake you can back your psychopath claim up because the State accepted it was wrong and I have one hell of a report that your lawyer will have difficulty disproving in libel proceedings.
This is getting boring...but you seem to think that because you spent time in jail you are not, now, a murdering piece of shit scumbag...you are exactly that. now fuck off and die like your victim.
Hitchens...don't feed his sociopathic tendencies by giving him a stage in which to explain why he is now a good person..he is murdering scum who would have swung and should still if there was any real justice.
Now drop it ffs.
Thank you Guido for getting those two of the blog
I suppose on a positive note it is refreshing at least get an insight into some of the friends that Tony et al will be enjoying in the New Year
Apologies Guido
Shame you couldn't have pulled the old "diminished responsibility" get out plea for yourself.
Fucking shame on you Hirst
Our good host not only had to put up with Hanging but also having his vitals ripped out and his balls cut off, all for doing what 99% of the population would love to do (heres a clue it wasn't murdering our land ladies)
Just fuck off!
Guido he knows where we all live.
I offer no apology as I feel one is not necessary from my end. However, I accept your suggestion twice. "Peter hitchens" should have known better, and he cannot distinguish the real from the fake.
you offer "no apology" to whom?
the family of the woman you butchered?
Dont butt in on this Guido (please)
Why did you butcher a woman Hirst?
I am sick of this bickering
Fuck off you two, and goodnight
hopefully tomorrow we can have real blogging
I logged on here tonight to try to read up on some of the weird and dubious stories whitewashing our rotten Government especially the annointed "Brown", not only because I don't support them but also because I would like to have the mendacious lying cheats brought to book. Instead there is all this stuff. Please accept Mr Fawkes suggestion to take your no doubt important arguement elsewhere - sorry to be disloyal Mr H. but there it is!
Christ! Talk about flogging a dead horse. That was like swimming through porridge.
If anybody cares anymore, it was Jim Davidson. He asked for a KKK.
I thank you........
Peter, if I hear another word I shall give you such a smack! Now go to bed!
Back to the real discussion...
Is it that knobhead Bono that is about to spill the beans on Blair. Bono the pretentious Moron who compared Blair and Brown to Lennon and Mc'Cartney. More like Pinky and Perky.
The recent story about Bono at a concert in Ireland makes me laugh. He appeals for silence and then slowly claps his hands.
" Every time I clap my hands a child dies of hunger in Africa."
From the audience a bloke shouts out... "Well stop clapping your fucking hands then."
What about Rod Stewart?
He wants a sir-ship but is, allegedly, too cheap to pay for one.
Er, why is anyone taking any notice at all of a murderer who thinks that remorse for taking life is time-limited and "a middle class thing" (whatever that means)? Where I live, he wouldn't be given even the time of day.
In the US, he would not have been given time at all and he would be either on Death Row now or no longer walking the earth.
Guido can you please 'kill' any future invective ping-pong between PH and JHL?
anonymous 11.20: I don't normally respond to anonymous posts, because I cannot see the need to hide if one has something to say in public, but I don't live in a hole I live in a very nice three bedroom mid-terrace house. I cannot contaminate this blog more than it is already contaminated. Like shit it attracts a lot of flies. Yes, Andrew O'Hagan's article was not the most sympathetic ever written about me. There again, he usually writes for the Torygraph, and he is not Guardian material. You do not pay taxes to keep me alive, it's called the cost of living in a capitalist society. Actually, a friend bought me the computer for a present last Christmas. You do like the word contaminate, don't you, as you raised it, society in this country is already contaminated and I fail to see how my breath of fresh air makes it any worse. Probably, makes it better. No, I won't go away, I am here to stay. Like it or lump it.
anonymous 11.22: I have no way of knowing whether you are the same poster as above. I don't think anything of the sort because it is not true. I will die when it is my time and not your's.
I don't need the fake peter hitchens for a stage. According to David Niven the whole world is a stage. I have my own public platform. People convicted of manslaughter don't swing as you put it. Only those convicted of murder did that. There is real justice, I have proved it but you need to fight for it and not just talk about it.
indigo: Vietnam.
morning..is this still the blog on Knighthoods...can I have one please...I'm in the school panto on Thursday and I thought it would go down well...as a joke...
indigo: Vietnam. (8:52)
Vietnam-what. You are surely not comparing yourself with US military veterans?
I've still got Christmas cards to deliver, and a package of modelling clay to track down at the sorting office, so I can't spend any more time on JHL - however, I gather from your attempt at being delphic that your bookshelves are loaded with the sort of book about Vietnam that make you feel pretentiously better about what you did (which was, in fact, indefensible). Some people will do anything not to own their culpability.
jailhouselawyer 8.52: "According to David Niven the whole world is stage".
I'm sorry, but this is taking ignorant twattishness to new levels. Ever heard of Shakespeare, fool? "All the world's a stage" - suggest you do some homework.
Alternatively, read "The Moon's a Balloon" by David Niven.
Jerk.
"Yes, Andrew O'Hagan's article was not the most sympathetic ever written about me. There again, he usually writes for the Torygraph, and he is not Guardian material." - JHL
Not the most sympathetic?! How could anyone, from whatever paper, write a version of events that would sympathetic to this killer? Impossible. JHL is missing the point by a mile.
indigo: And, Iraq.
idle: Thank you, I was not quite sure who's quote it was. And, I have read David Nivens "The Moon's a Balloon". Remarkable chap.
anonymous 10.48: The point is I don't miss the point. Others do.
Oh, fuck off you tedious cunt !
Guido, can't you block this tool from posting ?
Not half as tedious as anonymous posters.
Anonymous posters must be a frightful bore to someone as worthy and important as 'jailhouselawyer'.
Thank God he is here to correct us all. There's me thinking that he is just a twat who killed someone.
Jailhouselawyer ?
Nah, he's just a sad little cunt trying deperately to make up for being endowed with genitalia so small it would shame a field mouse.
"lucien modo said...
Hmm. Sounds like that rascal Fuller, if you ask me. "
I SUFFER IDENTITY THEFT... WHAT TYPE OF PARTY WOULD DO SUCH A THING?
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