Wiki Wickedness
Miliband had a go at Guido at the New Statesman's New Media Awards ceremony for "recycling Westminster gossip", which is odd since he is usually in favour of recycling. He meant of course "stop exposing us".
Well the Miliblogger has moved on from having a crap blog into the geeky realms of online open government. He has set up a Wiki to discuss his ideas for an "Environmental Contract" to bind us into Green slavery and forced muesli consumption without choice. Currently you do not need to register before you can edit or create pages.
"We particularly welcome contributions that offer a new viewpoint on the subject being discussed." Guido is sure that his co-conspirators have their different and novel viewpoints to offer and will avail themselves of the facility by going here. Guido has left a comment himself. Enjoy yourselves, say what you really think...
Well the Miliblogger has moved on from having a crap blog into the geeky realms of online open government. He has set up a Wiki to discuss his ideas for an "Environmental Contract" to bind us into Green slavery and forced muesli consumption without choice. Currently you do not need to register before you can edit or create pages.
"We particularly welcome contributions that offer a new viewpoint on the subject being discussed." Guido is sure that his co-conspirators have their different and novel viewpoints to offer and will avail themselves of the facility by going here. Guido has left a comment himself. Enjoy yourselves, say what you really think...
137 comments:
He's a knob though, Guido's not recycling gossip, he's sharing it with people beyond the Westminster village. What he really means is "stop telling the plebs!"
A different anonymous says:
Exactly.
I had a go at editing that page, adding things like "striving for international agreement on a global aeropspace fuel tax" and other things that Milliband would love to have there, but it wouldn't save.
After reading the page, there are problems with internet explorer, it wouldn't work on my mac running safari, and so it seems you have to have firefox to edit anything.
Seems to be the ideal way of creating one of those "nationwide debates, listening to genuine concerns from the broadest section of society"...
Charley
Link to the Wiki. Enjoy.
Miliband thinks we should stick to being an influential enlightened elite.
I changed a few subtle points - although I very much doubt they will get past the original draft that will be uploaded a few moments after the end of the PR excersise!
If they can waste the tax payers money going on trips to promote the bollox of global warming, then surely, I can get a grant to insulate an open door policy?
and the problems with geeks is?
is Mr Fawkes a geek?
dictionary definition of a geek: "a peculiar person, esp. one who is perceived to be overly intellectual."
Has anyone read the government commitment on sustainable finance:
In return, government will:
* provide access to high quality, fictional information on how savings and investments impact on environment and society;
What an admission. Is this the sort of thing we can expect from a Miliband run dept? Brutal honesty?
Or does anyone cynically think this is an error?
Hmm, even unregistered users can edit these wiki pages oh dear oh dear.
I put something up; quite restrained really, but it has been "moderated" by the spotty spin doctors of DEFRA. So has yours Guido.
Guido,
Your comment has disappeared already!
"Is this the sort of thing we can expect from a Miliband run dept? Brutal honesty?"
Nah, its what you get from open Wikis. I liked the "clean streets eventually" clause. I read that twice before the penny dropped.
Why don't these useless tossers get a life.
Gossip has been the life-blood of Westminster for times immemorial, what that tosser is saying is that he wishes the gossip to remain away from the hoi polloi, as we are not to be trusted with such information.
Frankly we need more lamp-posts, as the whole lot of this abject shower of jerk-offs and arse-hole lickers need stringing up pronto.
A pox on Milliband an' the lot of em.
I was going to emigrate to the UK, I've changed my mind. What a load of crap.
That Wiki is hours of fun. How long will my two amendments will remain there?
When the cybersoldiers for Israel arrive, Defra will have to take it down.
And they're gone (my comments are in version 80).
I changed the page and stated the obvious WHAT A LOAD OF OLD CRAP :)
That site is rapidly becoming one of the funniest things on the net.
Guido your comments have been removed, can we see them on your blog please?
If everyone keeps changing the text, maybe the DEFRA blog budget will run out by the end of the day...
Free those imprisoned GovBlog squirrels!
I've added some cake - it looks fantastic.
Yum yum
Charley
Oh Guido, thank you so much for pointing this out!
It's time to wreak my revenge for the New Statesman debacle (video courtesy of Guido's mobile 'phone).
Ha! Don't worry, I will be serious eventually but first it's time for some jolly japes...
DK
I haven't laughed so much for years! God Bless Guidoistas!!!!!
I can't see my computer screen for crying with laughter. Cake, yogurt, Jeremy Clarkson ... blur
Hmm I wonder if it will reach 500 revisions before knocking off time at Spinparty HQ
I thought I should add a photo of Dave too - just so that it's clear that he's behind it all.
:)
C
See if you can find my "Wicker Man" reference!
Made me laugh anyway!
They have taken the contract out, boring bastards
If only all government policy was decided in this e-democratic way!
Thats is lads and lasses games up, they have stopped the editing :(
They've taken it off.
No access privleges anymore. No more discussion.
I got my final comment in just in time!
The government is open no more. As soon as they start hearing things they don't like they close their ears. Of course, it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks anyway... New Labour knows what's best for everybody!
HA HA. The fools. Their PR exercise has failed.
Well done to Guido for kicking it all off!
Why isn't there lots of comedy shows based around the antics of New labour (eg Spitting Image type shows). You could take the piss out of this lot from morning til night. You couldn't make half of it up.
As for any environmental contract - it's good to have the chance to discuss it, but let's cut to the chase, and ask 'who's been awarded the contract?' ;)
Google already has the DEFRA wiki at #4 under 'jotspot page'; a sign of how popular it's become already.
Yep it failed anonymuse 12.37,
because like everything else these clowns in ministerial garb try to do they initiate a process or system they understand fuck all about, and then wonder why it gets broken.
How long before Defra complain that an exercise in democracy has been hijacked by right wing bloggers?
the site has now reverted to its original text. What a pity.
Just look up the Wikipedia entry for the "delphi technique" to see what this is all about.
THE GOAL HAS BEEN PREDETERMINED - THIS IS ALL JUST TO GIVE THE appearance OF CONSULTATION. IT IS A SOFTENING-UP EXERCISE. DON'T FALL FOR IT!
See the Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method
"Delphi method
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Delphi method has traditionally been a technique aimed at building an agreement, or consensus about an opinion or view, without necessarily having people meet face to face, such as through surveys, questionnaires, emails etc. This technique, if used effectively, can be highly efficient and generate new knowledge.
To build consensus, the Delphi method often uses the Hegelian dialectic process of thesis (establishing an opinion or view), antithesis (conflicting opinion or view) and finally synthesis (a new agreement or consensus), with synthesis becoming the new thesis. All participants in the process shall then either change their views to align with the new thesis, or support the new thesis, to establish a new common view. The goal is a continual evolution towards 'oneness of mind', or consensus on the opinion or view."
See especially:
"Directing the flow to a predetermined goal
The Delphi Technique can also be abused to give an appearance of community input when in reality the facilitator is directing the flow to a predetermined goal."
the worm that tured
the Delphi method often uses the Hegelian dialectic process of thesis (establishing an opinion or view), antithesis (conflicting opinion or view) and finally synthesis (a new agreement or consensus), with synthesis becoming the new thesis.
Rather like the current state of our democtacy then? some aux disagreements then heads down for more more spending, unreformed public services ,"green" taxes and no disagreements on matters of foriegn policy
The open and democratic Contract, that empowers the relevant stakeholders to proactively leverage their cocopity, while acknowledging the rights of those who want to have sex with owls on my face
If you wish to see the previous versions and compare against the censored one, try this link:
http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/System/Pages/Compare?target=%2FWikiHome%2FEnvironmentContract&sel160=160&sel159=159&rev1=159&rev2=160
Guido, what a find, until they went coy. It makes you almost regret that this shower will be soon consigned to where they belong - the dustbin of history.
re pedant Esq. at 1:12.
Let us all pray that it will the the dustbin, and not the recycle bin. Although on second thoughts, the idea of that bunch of wankers reappearing as bin bags does have a certain attraction.
If only all taxpayers' "investment" in government IT projects could be so much fun!
The edit link seems to have disappeared.
What is a Milliband?
Just read the uncensored version, courtesy of the underdoug (many thanks)
I laughed so hard i nearly shat.
Gutted my wiki edit of Do as the high priests of eco-loonism dictate, those who resist will star in the next remake of "The Wicker Man" starring David Milliband. to the Waste Contract section has been lost forever!
steve b at 1:39.
It's not lost (yet). Just use underdoug's url (1:04 pm) and change the final rev2=xxx parameter to an (any) earlier number. But hurry, before those brain-dead fuckwits catch on.
Oh joy ! Frabtious joy!
Brilliant!
The underdoug's link shows up a few things nicely....I especially like their insistence that this is a Western rather than a Worldwide problem. Self loathing doesn't work if everyone is to blame....
I didn't see a contract to tackle the primary cause of environmental problems - too many humans. Though Tony "Minority Report" Blair and his psychic Carole do seem to want to intervene before conception according to Blunkett on Today this morning. (Available on Listen Again)
This being a public blog, do you not think that the "brain-dead fuckwits" might be happily reading these comments?
I especially liked:
"We believe that the environmental problems we face, particularly climate change, represent the gravest threat to human life and prosperity"
What, even more of a threat than dangerous megalomaniacs starting wars?
Marvellous! I've just wasted a fraction of a dead tree (a good spanking, please, Mr Miliband!) printing off the revision comparison for posterity. In days to come, it will remind me (as I languish in my cell for having refused an ID card) of what fun the Internet could be before the thought police took over - as they surely will.
Well done Guido, a good find and a good laugh.
On a theological note, I was sitting in a local village church the other day which has a wonderful Norman arch. One of the carvings on this arch, representing the Holy Trinity, is identical to the DEFRA logo. Would good Master Cranmer (who seems to have been holding his peace these few days) care to comment?
Anonymous 1.54 said...
This being a public blog, do you not think that the "brain-dead fuckwits" might be happily reading these comments?
What are you going to do to us as punishment for fouling up your PR stunt?
Strangely Comment202 is still editable -- there's now a link on it to the uncensored version in the name of Openness.
And comments can be deleted at will, which is a shame.
Save some paper:
Put this link into IE (sadly not so slick with firefox) and then save as a web archive (.mht file) to have something to show the kids (i.e. this was the last day that government really let us tell it what we thought of it before the dissidents were sent for diversity training - we like Labour, we love Labour, we love Tony Blair, we lurve Gordon Brown, we will not vote for anyone other than what nice Mr Murdoch tells us to):
http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/System/Pages/Compare?rev1=159&rev2=160&target=%2FWikiHome%2FEnvironmentContract&view=side
I suspect that Mr Murdoch will soon be telling us to vote Tory soon - and I'm about as likely follow that dictat as his previous orders to vote Labour. :-)
My very sincere apologies. Try my original link in Firefox and 'save page as' into a segragated folder for sanity (IE6 didn't work as I expected and I'm damned if I'm trying IE7).
For a full comparison, switch to side by side view and 'save page as' as well.
Hurry, before big brother closes the link down!
sorry, should be 'segregated'
As I said, hurry, hurry, hurry
How do you put a comment on the Mili=Wiki
Has DEFRA subcontracted maintenance of their wiki to somewhere West of the UK? All the time tags associated with their revision numbers seem to be BST -8hrs. Or maybe I'm just ignorant and all Wiki sites are based on Pacific (i.e. California) Time?
My wife call him Millipede and reckons he's got thread worms because he never keeps still and keeps rubbing his nose.
Oh my Good Lord, I was 17 in 1997, I remember people warning me the left were barking mad. I started thinking they were a little bit crazed a couple of years back, but after reading that I'm convinced; they are completely round the twist!
'Environment Contracts'?
Between 'citizens and their government'?
What about this bit:
'wherever possible citizens should be made to opt-out of environmentally unfriendly behaviour not obliged to opt-in.'
'made to opt out'.
Nowhere does it say this contract will be voluntary for God's sake!
'citizens WILL think about waste when purchasing e.g. food as well as using products appropriately'
'In return, government will collect your rubbish and clean streets'
Thank-you Mr Miliband, at least I know my council tax is not going to waste.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE WATER ONE?
'Citizens WILL have fewer baths'
'Government will regulate to ensure that new and renovated buildings incorporate water saving features as standard'
Oh my God! Is he seriously proposing to run my bath with a stop-tap timer thingymajig?
Here is what he REALLY means:
Government will:
Legislate giving competent authorities (local authorities) the power to ask you to sign an 'environment contract'.
Make it a criminal offence to be in breach of your environment contract once it has been served on you by an authorised officer of the competent authority
Give powers to competent authorities to employ inspectors to monitor signatories to environment contracts for compliance
In the event of any breach of your environment contract an authorised inspector shall use his handheld terminal to take your 'polluter ID number' from the electro-tag attached to your new bin (provided as part of the environment contract), a fixed penalty notice fining you £80 shall arrive by post to be paid within 21 days.
Am I going mad or are they? Someone please answer me on this!
Interesting comment "The Labour Party is a fish in a blogging-barrel at the moment"
Published yesterday - seems to have predicted todays blog.
http://www.labourhome.org/story/2006/8/30/223647/524
Does LabourHome consider itself to be part of the "liberal blogosphere"? Anyone who has read Mr. Milliband's environmental proposals would understand the Labour Government to be rather closer to being fascists.
Bournemouth residents are furious after finding RFID tags in their bins. I am looking at mine as we speak - it's quite happy indoors next to the computer showing off to anyone who comes round. It's quite fetching and the neighbours are thinking of making them into badges.
This government is full of lunatics and so is our council.
stephen_I said (and all others) - This environment crap is the same mind control enforcement that applied when Hezbollah attacked Israel.
The MSM reported it as Israel "killing innocent children" when they were defending their territory and trying to save the lives of their own children. And they leafletted areas of the city they were intending to bomb, warning Lebanese citizens to get out. Yet the Israelis were - and are, despite all the fauxtographic proof readily available on the internet (including Reuters withdrawal of half of its photographs and apologising) - presented as the aggressors. As with "the environment" - another flaky, agenda driven "belief" - the entire Left has its fingers in its ears and goes, "La la la la la! I can't hear you!"
Thank you, the underdoug (2:17 PM), thank you thank you. I have saved several "revisions" for posterity and sharing with friends unlucky enough to have missed this. I kept having get up and walk away from the computer to master my hysterical laughter. The "sex with owls on my face" will remain with me for a long time.
Some poor Defra person is probably even now standing on Miliband's carpet trying to explain why this Wiki was a good idea.
The Labour government is brilliant at using technology...
to make an ass of itself.
Y'all heard, did you, about the YouTube video that the Cabinet Office posted? It was supposed to get the word out about Transformational Government.
Well COI Television had it taken down, because it was used without permission of the copyright holder. COI Television is a division of the Cabinet Office.
Full story here. Please, in the name of all that is holy, if we can do nothing else for the people of the world can we at least get these idiots to stop using the word "joined-upness?"
Raincoaster, I thought Mr Blair had never touched a computer. How is he in a position to evangelise?
But a contract you do not choose to sign is not a contract. It is a law surely?
Or will it be like one of these acceptable behaviour contracts for teenage tearaways (and glints in the milkman's eye if Blair gets his way) where you get taken to the county court (the county court will love being clogged up with 'bath a day martyrs') if you break your environment contract?
Then presumably you get a EUBO (Environmentally Unfriendly Behaviour Order) which if you breach you get up to 5 years for.
Are they still shipping a third of the plastic we 'recycle' off to China to be burned in a big furnace that poisons local Chinese kids?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waste/story/0,,1308278,00.html
Anyway, put two and two together, if Gordon Brown wins the next election your bins will all get tagged, you will be given a new set of rules by your local council called an 'environment contract', an army of migrants with handheld computer scanner thingys will come around to snoop through your bin and with one fell swipe you will receive a fine in the post because the local pre-pubesent tearaways have put a load of broken glass in your compost bin (of course these pre-pubesent tearaways will be on pre-acceptable behaviour agreements with the local anti-social behaviour prevention department) pay up in 21 days or be forced to attend your local Environmental Awareness and Re-education Sessions for the next 2 months - or else risk a EUBO!
There that'll sort out global warming won't it!
"environmental contract" = green fascism
Priceless. I needed a good laugh and have now saved the link to my hard drive, so cheers for that.
DEFRA? Does Everything to F*** Real Argument.
I've been reading this Blog for about 4 weeks now. Some of it is interesting; some of it is witty; some of it isn't.
It seems to be very insular. It seems to want to exclude people by using acronyms that 'only those in the know' understand.'In Jokes' that only those that are part of the clique understand are the primary communication tool.
This 'Blog' may well be up there in the ratings but might I propose that if it's vocubulary enthused more people to use it to communicate views, rather than to attempt prove what a clever smartass they are with the English language, then it might even become more popular.
If you're having problems with acronyms, anonymous, maybe I can help. NuLab means New Labour. Any others?
By the way..... I don't like being 'Anonymous' as per above comment left - I did try to fill in all the techy bullshit on passwords and stuff- it all got rejected by an uncaring moron of a computer (probably a Lib-Dem) - so had to go the Anonymous route (..and I really wanted to be 'Torquay-Terrific'!)
See what I mean? 1 minute later a smartass comment from 'Shorty'. Keep the clique going shorty.....
Did you mean smartarse or a clever donkey Torquay?
I did try to fill in all the techy bullshit on passwords and stuff- it all got rejected by an uncaring moron of a computer (probably a Lib-Dem)
Hi there, I'm actually the computer that rejected you, and I'm a Lib Dem.
The reason you were rejected is that you're a spastic who can't follow simple instructions.
Ciao,
Allan
They cleaned it up. Here is the link to see what happened before the government took our toys away:
http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome/EnvironmentContract?revision=159
God that page is awful. All I see are the comments! I want to see the thoughts of Milibland - maybe they can help where my anti-depressants have failed.
I think we need some 'Moderation' here people (Guido..). Using a word like 'Spastic in that derogatory way is out of order and 'allan' should be ejected from the Blog
Don't be such as spaz.
Why is there no 'edit page' button in the top left of my screen? I want a go at editing one! It's not fair!!!
I like muesli
Seems like you can say anything on this Blog, with no moderation whatsoever, so 'Gordon Brown is a Scottish Prat whose only interest is in fleecing those of us who want to try and make a few bob and giving it to the Scousers who don't want to work but can remove the wheels on your car in the time it takes to buy a paper at the newsagents (in Toxteth)'
There I feel better now -I've wanted to say that ever since the bastard Blair & his (ex) mate Brown got elected.
Some more censorship going on...only one reference to Guido now, which is out of context as the previous comment has been deleted.
I think that anyone who uses offensive terms, sorry, terms that are meant to be offensive, but actually only demean the user, I mean, anyone who exercises their right to freedom of speech, nope, tries to offend and harrass or otherwise contravene Section 4 of the Public Order Act...um...
You're not in a diversity forum now, 3.55. We don't eject people here for speaking. Go try fascisttit.blogspot.com for that sort of thing.
Spaz ? What's wrong with that ? The disableds don't need you to defend them, they can look after themselves. Well, not the ones that have carers,obviously. But a lot of them can. And they don't need patronising. Some of my best friends are Joeys etc etc repeat until Bafta.
Hey Toynbeeloather -Yep- another smartass, in-joke -elbow-in-the-face-don't-try-and-muscle-in on our really comfortable Blog with all of it's In-Jokes & Innuendo. Stick with it pal & pretty soon you may disappear up your own oriface due to to regurgitation of 'the same old crap'. There's nothing like slapping down new ideas with 'Hey, we never heard that one before....DID WE GUYS???...are you with me???'....hello....are you with me??? 'Toynbeeloather just left the building'
Looks like some of my handy word was recognised for the talent it is!
I liked the "clean streets eventually" clause. I read that twice before the penny dropped.
At 11:00 AM, Anonymous said...
Has anyone read the government commitment on sustainable finance:
In return, government will:
* provide access to high quality, fictional information on how savings and investments impact on environment and society;
What an admission. Is this the sort of thing we can expect from a Miliband run dept? Brutal honesty?
Or does anyone cynically think this is an error?
I noticed someone commented on that one on the Defra Site as well - recognition at last!!
Having checked over the current one, even my mentioning of spying on neighbours, using rainwater for washing and living in mud huts has been removed - what ever happened to democracy!? :)
There's gratitude..... harrumph. I was only trying to help. If I was being 'cliquey' I'd have told you to work it out for yourself as we adore communicating in incomprehensible language that no-one else can understand.
Errrm, have you tried reading any government-related website recently? Personally, I can't understand a word of it.
For a saved version of the Milliband Wiki (before all the good bits got taken out by the DEFRA SpAds/censors/f**kwits) see:
http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/defra-wiki/
WARNING: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SWALLOWED ANY FOOD OR DRINK BEFORE VIEWING THE PAGE - YOU MAY CHOKE WITH LAUGHTER.
we do need sustainable finances
we need no-gooders sent to coventry
we need electronic chips on the inside of all condoms, thus any no-good sperm can be eliminated at the outset
we need longterm sustainable govt
we need recyable bicyles
And if Dubya does indeed turn out to be the anti-christ, we need to lend our best spinners to our Merikan cousins to ensure the republican vote ain't hurt in the november elections
The revisions are still there. Go to "Revision History" and click on "older" at bottom of page. Try Version 155, must be Ian Dale
Apparently they don't have Google where the anonymous ones come from. Nor do they understand what is meant by the word "Other". If they have that much difficulty filling out simple forms, it's doubtful they'll be able to get along in Tony Blair's New World Order.
What part of "All of these fields are optional" don't you understand? Click OTHER, put in a name, don't put in a web page if you don't have one, do the Word Verification, and you're done. Seriously...I should invoice these nonys.
I typed it, but then couldn't add it. So you lot get it instead...
Citizens will:
buy the lowest carbon vehicles appropriate for their needs
I need an E-Type, so I suppose this means I should go for the lower carbon 4.2 litre rather than the 5.3.
have fewer baths
I know most environmentalists are dirty and unshaven, but I always assumed that was just their way. I didn't realise it was compulsory.
spend the financial gains from their savings and investments in a sustainable manner;
So having taxed as much of my money as they can grasp, the Government is now telling me how to spend the little I have left. Wouldn't it be better for the environment if we abandoned money altogether and just worked for the good of the party? Then you could buy us anything you knew we needed.
Stick with it pal & pretty soon you may disappear up your own oriface [sic] due to to [sic] regurgitation of 'the same old crap'. There's nothing like slapping down new ideas with 'Hey, we never heard that one before....
well, personally, I think slagging everyone off then complaining that they won't let you play is just rude
Shove it 'Raincoaster' (where'd you get a daft name like that?). I'm sure if you managed it, then it was due to an accident on your keyboard, as you seem not to have the intellect for joined-up-form-filling. Invoice me! I think the value you offer is 1p (old money).
> have fewer baths
ahhh, this explains a lot. I thought Tony and his mates were unwashed, turns out they are closet environmentalists.
Gee, you're awful sensitive. Are you Albanian, perhance?
Anonymong at 5.06 and passim...
Please take your personality disorder somewhere else. We were here first and we like it the way it is.
Verity, thanks for reintroducing Zionist war crimes into the blog. We'd almost forgotten them.
I can fill in the comment form here and have a name at the top. Do I get a prize?
I've been visiting this blog for a couple of months, posted a few times and haven't noticed any anti-newbie bias.
Then again, there's time yet.
Re:- the Millibrand thingie... summed up best as "more reasons to tax you and give jobs to no-marks"
Ooh stroppy Nony...Keep up..we are an Elite!
Did the Israeli Defence Forces get issued with Owl Magnets too? I think we should be told.
OK, Guido.
Play the game.
Which version shows your comments?
Citizens will:
"encourage neighbours to think about the environment when saving and investing."
Are we allowed to use force as a basis for this "encouragement"? We could say we were only following orders.
"Anonymous said...
I think we need some 'Moderation' here people (Guido..). Using a word like 'Spastic in that derogatory way is out of order and 'allan' should be ejected from the Blog"
I'm afraid you will find that this blog has little time for self-righteousness or people being excessively ernest.
As for cliquey language, I am genuinely curious as to what language you are referring to. I wouldn't consider myself as part of any clique (I admit I'm not witty enough) but I don't have trouble understanding what anybody else is saying.
Earnest*
Damned if I could figure out how to leave a comment in the 30 secs I gave to it. Waste of time anyway, like you (I think) said it's just another crap NL attempt to appear to be listening. Is there an extended wiki that allows one to post 5000lb of high explosives?
Personally I am pretty convinced of global warming (as a chemical engineer with many years in simulation including heat transfer I know a bit more about the principles involved than most) and do not object in principal to "green" taxes, but what I looked for in vain in that so called contract was any promise to remove taxes from elsewhere. Yet again this is just another net hike to be squandered. Principle is not enough anyway, policies need to be practical and I am sceptical for the reasons others have given above.
Shove it 'Raincoaster' (where'd you get a daft name like that?) - Anon 5:06pm
Dear Anony-mensch
We all sympathise with your limited success in finding les mots apposites - do we detect the beneficial effects of an education under the British National Curriculum
However, is this any way to write to a Demoiselle from a small Coastal Town just north of Seattle and from a distant & remote Country so far from God, but so near the United States !!
Je reste le votre servant
G Eagle
Anonymous said...
I've been reading this Blog for about 4 weeks now. Some of it is interesting; some of it is witty; some of it isn't.
It seems to be very insular. It seems to want to exclude people by using acronyms that 'only those in the know' understand.'In Jokes' that only those that are part of the clique understand are the primary communication tool.3:37PM
TDR anonymous,the RU`s are deffo PDG of doing exactly that,I blame the Owl worshippers but Bitchboy,Orca and the Cowboy must be doing a Kennedey with what they read here sometimes.
Read it, and what a load of pretentous bollocks
The game is up Davie boy
'The King has no clothes'
We are fecking sick of the control freakery, and we don't believe a word you bunch of tossers speak
Just crawl into a hole, and let some one else try to sort out the bloody mess you have left this country in
P**s off with your balmy ideas
your blog sucks! Lame blog!
Anon 6:30am
What an early bird !
Whose blog are you referring to ?
If to Millipede's, how perceptive !
If to Guido's, then get thee to a Nunnery, Proud Ophelia, secu