Tim Montgomerie's
prophecy is coming true. Guido
warned them that
"The News" will no longer be defined by Big Media.
"The News" is whatever is disseminated to a wide audience, Big Media is going to be disintermediated when it falls down because technology has drastically reduced the cost of dissemination. Currently an establishment value-set dominates the broadcast media and consequently political discourse. This is going to be easier to overturn as technology gives citizens the means to challenge the state-controlled media. The dead-tree-press too is getting
nervous and
testy.
You ain't seen nothing yet...
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Sounds powerful stuff Guido.
But it takes decades to build the level of trust our friends down at the Peoples Republic of White City regularly abuse.
"disintermediated" - is that an actual real word?
Yes, it is an actual, real word.
From the 'prophecy'link. I see by Duncan Smith's email address, he's a Mac User. Is the old duffer tech-savvy?
This will be too dangerous for our masters. A reason to license, control and regulate will soon be found. I predict shortly a combination of paedophile / terrorist broadcast stories, followed by the call that Something must be done and a government minister reluctantly introducing the New Technology Communication Regulation bill.
What marvelous news(for all corrupt and bent politicspotters).
Tim Montgomerie is going to inform me of what exactly?
Let me guess...er....er....e
Labour bad
Liberals bad
Conservatives...er ...er..er
Oh fill it in yourselves.
Gary
I fear that the Tories have stolen a march on us lefties in the blogosphere. Sharper, funnier, and more independent on the whole.
But I wonder to what extent the tables would be turned if they got into No.10. Control freakery tends to come with power.
Yes, and a terrible loss of humour, particularly the self-deprecating kind. I'm hoping if the Tories get in that Guido will be just as hard on them as he would be if any other party got in, but I certainly am not about to put money on it, even if I had any which, being a communal anarchist, I don't.
tyger said...
From the 'prophecy'link. I see by Duncan Smith's email address, he's a Mac User. Is the old duffer tech-savvy?12:56 PM
Probably bought it thinking it was some kind of new-fangled electronic raincoat.
I'm sure that both of it's viewers will be elated at no longer having to wear their tinhats while watching the 'Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation'.
Look, at the BBC website, ha, with its London based liberal head up its arse sanctimonious politically correct editing, now once when people had no internet they were subjected to this narrow outlook on the world day in day out....now of course with the flick of a search the viewer can read and watch what they want, no longer force fed lumpy custard!!!!!
its great, and believe me some little news services, blogs, and home online TV productions with a budget less than what the beeb spends a year on fresh flowers make them look just plain and simple AWFUL!
Miaow Freedom!!!
http://www.ghostofhumphrey.blogspot.com
Whick one will be Garth and which one will be Wayne?
It'll be just like Sky TV on the internet - 1000 channels wonderful channels - its why I stay home every night.
Is there is more to the 'recently discovered' blogosphere than Ian Dale, Con home and Guido? Time for an 'alternative top 100 blogs' methinks!
I'm still waiting for radio5 lies (er, live) to report the Chris Evans story. If it wasn't for Guido I'd never have known about it.
Then there's postman Patel and cryptome and Craig Murray and Tomlinson and orlin Grabbe and Peter Dale Scott and ... and ...
there just isn't enough time for radio, tv, and newspapers; collectively known as 'the media of idiots'.
This is going to be easier to overturn as technology gives citizens the means to challenge the state-controlled media.
That is until "they" make a nice offer for a blog such as yours Guido or Iain Dales, no doubt that is why you have put your time and money into establishing this blog.
Can't say I will wont applaud when you pull in a fat wedge.
Those that control the MSM will move on to control the currently independent media.
Like all parasites they are slow to adapt, the freedom we are currently enjoying is a blip, the only good thing is that new media gives new parasites the opportunity to cream off some wealth for themselves, hopefully leaving the scions of current media dynasties to f*** off , buy some tweed pants and play at being "gents" and not inflict the likes of R******* W *** on us all.
Nobody will watch it and it'll fail. End of.
'Richard Littlejohn'? Come on, you're really Peter Hitchens, aren't you . .
I stopped looking at BBC politics about a month ago - when I looked at it I just shook my head as Auntie doesn't tell the truth for fear of offending anybody.
I think all the news editors at the BBC need to be broomed out so the truth can start to come out again.
What happened to real political journalism - it's cetainly dead at the BBC - nobody with any honour would work for their political news desk.
Anonymous said...
once when people had no internet they were subjected to this narrow outlook on the world day in day out....now of course with the flick of a search the viewer can read and watch what they want, no longer force fed lumpy custard!!!!!1:39 PM
I remember when the "coalition" first went into Iraq seeing reports of American troops "cleaning up" a group of Taliban they`d come across.24 hours they were still "cleaning up" in the same place according to all our media,then things went very quiet.As things didn`t quite add up I took a look around the net and came across reports from the other side of the world that virtually the entire Australian S.A.S. had been sent in to rescue the hapless Yanks who far from cleaning anyone up were pinned down in a valley by Taliban fighters,only now are we led to believe that the Taliban are "stronger than first thought",anyone reading the Sydney Herald web-site would have been aware of their abilities years ago,the story we got was somewhat different.
Apologies,should of course have read Afghanistan but as a Tory readership you`ll all be aware they`re all the same anyway.
"Tories to launch anti BBC politics channel"
My hope is that unfair fake headline above isn't indicative of how this new venture will pan out.
It's launched by Tories claiming to want to expose the kind of things we talk about in the pub (although I've never heard a pub conversation about the alleged bias of the BBC!), here's hoping its not going to be a narrow conservative range of topics, comments, and guests.
Yes IPTV is here now and it's going to be a free-for-all.
Expect the guy who heckled John Ried the other day to be on air by next summer and he'll be giving all the muslim kids his take on the UK and how he'd change it.
"We want Sharia Law, NOW"
The BBC today is like Pravda was (and maybe still is) -- more interesting for what it doesn't cover than what it does. Its morning news -- political and financial -- is laughably bad, its running order of stories generally is remarkable (in a bad way) and the choice of presenters designed to keep the population on audible beta blockers. Of course I resent giving my hard earned cash to pay the license fee for something that is painful to watch; perhaps Hazel Bleary should include those sums in the amounts she is demanding from taxpayers to subsidize the Labour party. OK 18 Doughty street may not be the whole answer, but like blogs, it is going to give a voice outside the commentariat...
"The News" is anything which someone else does not want made known to a wider audience.
Let's not forget the great achievements of blogging to date.
(1) Snakes on a Plane!
(2) errr... that's it.
Which muppet came up with "18 Doughty Street" for a channel name? Hardly does what it says on the tin.
Perhaps they could make a film of someone waterskiiing, complete with jumping ramps and shark-infested water?
Good luck to all involved, an alternative voice is good but you'll be drowned out by the millions of other voices on all those other channels. Me, I'm still struggling to get used to Channel 5.
"Stephan Shakespeare TV" would be more accurate (will Jeffrey Archer get his own show ?).
I suppose the idea is to replicate the Yougov strategy: be as inaccurate as the old order, but much cheaper.
I've heard, and don't quote me on this, that they've invented this thing called a "printing press" too. People will be able to print anything they want and get a readership, this will fuck up a lot of people let me tell you.
No more will a few lone figures hold power over the rest of us. We'll all publish our own newspapers and it will be great.
Sounds powerful stuff Guido.
But it takes decades to build the level of trust our friends down at the Peoples Republic of White City regularly abuse.........................
I disagree. Given the left wing bias as the BBC, I reckon the new internet station will take about two minutes to obtain credibility.
how does all this work on sky plus?
will Guido be a special guest star with is fireworks show and dodgy 17th get-up?
we must know
what is the significance of the 28 days?
october starts sooner than that
also the october revolution didn't take place in october as the russinas were using an old fashioned calendar
Codswallop.
It will go the way of your short-lived podcasting revolution, ie., nowhere.
Blogger swallowed my post.
Gits
All the dead tree arseholes who have been giving us the benefit of their wisdomw for sooooo long are now well and truly shafted.
And all the poofters at the BBC with their touchy feely lefty agenda are likewise f**ked.
Back to democracy... to the Finland Station!!
To me that site screams that somebody is about to piss a load of money up the wall .
Guido
IMHO the only way you will make any decent money out of this site (dont you just hate ar***** who type IMHO) is to start charging for premium content, that is if you can provide it, maybe a link into other content providers that supply commercially valuable data rather than just free jokes?
I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts (and those of others) and would love to s this place thrive, however, Your current advertising strategies are shaky. You post that "opinion formers" such as David milliband and francis Maude read this blog and use this to tempt potential advertisers, but lets get serious, are they likely to be buying Anne Summers dildos, holidays in Ibiza and skimpy M&S knickers?
Politics has changed, we have all moved on, dildos,whore pants and hedonism are no longer on the agenda, solar panels, agreeable houses in west London or Devon complete with windmills and composting lavatories are the way forward.
Can you guess? I saw the salt!
OH NO, NOT THE OLD SALTS!
IT'S OLD SALTS!!!
Does this mean Guido will be launching his own channel?
Yes and pirate radio revolutionised the stale world of broadcasting didn't it! You go guys, stick two fingers up to those TV channels that everyone hates! This is going to be massive, I can feel it! I can't wait. Bring it on! Oh joy, oh rapure, TV dinners will next be the same again. Welcome to the 23rd century!!!!
My first reaction is one of great joy!
My second reaction is oh Bugger! He is what is going to happen.
10doughtySteet does well. A bunch of copy cat sites pop up, they do quite well.
Big business like news international and the like get involved as ironically do the BBC.
They will fill the whole internet tv air with so much noise anyone wanting to start up their own little thing will fail misrably.
Fast forward a few years and be surprised that the only people doing well will be those who invest a fortune into advertising and production values and do the whole thing seriously.
Who does things like that? People who get paid to do so - like the main stream press!
This will be a short revolution, with a slight pause for canopes before life will go on much as normal - just with the internet being used like we use TV today!
Destroying a monopoly is a double-edged blade. This thing will either fail, or if it succeeds transiently a competitor will enter the market and kill it. It is not that difficult to look better and sound more interesting than the likes of Iain Dale. That is why he is not in the mainstream media.
Guido of course could be, if he wanted it, but all that tells us is that in the current system people of ability generally float to the top regardless.
Look at the baby bib basket!
UNBELIEVABLE PELICAN BIB!
IT'S BABY BIBLETS WHO HAS ALL THE BIBS!!!!!!!
Let me answer some of the points raised above...
Anonymous 2.27, thanks for your encouragement!
Leon, I think I can out your mind at rest. The two female co-presenters are not Tories and the guest lineup will speak for itself. The reporter network has already signed up Labour and LibDem bloggers.
Anonymous at 3.18, I am sure the same was said about Google.
Sero, is that the best you can come up with? If 18DoughtyStreet is half as successful as YouGov I shall be very happy indeed. YouGov has broken the monopoly of the old opinion polling companies and has been a damn sight more accurate.
Broadcaster 4.16 - work for the BBC do you? Mind you, you are not too far off the ball with regard to podcasting. Internet TV is a very different animal. Read Chris Anderson's The Long Tail - then you'll understand why we're doing this.
the fat controller said:
It is not that difficult to look better and sound more interesting than the likes of Iain Dale. That is why he is not in the mainstream media.
Yet he is on MSM practically more than politicians (elected ones that is) and gets almost as much air time as ole turkey neck on sky news.
I think you might just be talking out of your arse sir. Why don't you scuttle back off into the depths of Al beeb or whichever other Nu-lab drone ship you were briefly allowed out of. The smell of fear from you dinosaurs is palpable even here up north.
good news from England ! this is something I have not heard for years....Go on Guido, at least until November 5th.
I can't read it. The format messes with my eyes and makes me dizzy. I'll have to stick with the tried and tested pale backgrounds.
Ignoring the financial dynamics, the concept cannot be faulted. Programs and presenters should encourage political incorrecteness, bias and prejudice without fear or favour. Left right far left far right must be allowed to speak without interuption or attempt to provide so called fuckin 'balance'. Unleash the dogs of the blogosphere. Success will be when Govt applies to High Court to have you closed down. Put me down for a sub to your defence fighting fund.
Channel 4 news making much of the fact that Tory TV will not have a duty to be impartial... how fortunate that Jon Snow and the BBC can always be relied upon for the strictly impartial view, lest we be led astray...
Major Buffy-Maun...
You sir, sound suspiciously like a recently deceased person of note, one Aubrey de Tocquaine. Come, come, own up.
Iain is a gent. We like that in a meta-media slut.
A wide audience? Yeah, right
fantastic news. a tv channel that wont be sucking up to Islamofascists.
Dear Col. Barrington Goss-Custance
I have no connexion with Major Buffy-Maun, although I admire his spectacles. You, on the other hand, share the same IP address as a certain FRUNING GRAPLECARD.
I was, sir, but am no longer
A. de T.
I have nothing whatsoever to do with the unfortunate death of Aubry de Tocquaine. I was in a Tandoori in Kennington at the time with Neil and Christine Hamilton.
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dale: Broadcaster 4.16 - work for the BBC do you? Mind you, you are not too far off the ball with regard to podcasting. Internet TV is a very different animal. Read Chris Anderson's The Long Tail - then you'll understand why we're doing this.
No, I don't. But I probably no more about the long tail, edge economics and disintermediation than anyone else watching this fiasco unfolding. The fallacy is that edge content can sustain itself. It cannot, unless people get paid, and as you and Guido have shown, your not that happy to continue doing any of this for free in the end, turning your own gun of criticism on yourselves: by accepting advertising payment, you are becoming the MSM, and since you published a book to make some money, you have zero credibility in my eyes when you guys spout off about the "dead tree press" being the man. Wake up. You spend more time on the regular media than online, and they will assimilate you eventually. You will get bored and move on, and unlike a masthead which can survive the loss of some journos, your websites die when you get bored. See Recess Monkey for details.
Broadcaster -- you are illiterate (no what I mean?), spout jargon, and say "you guys". Conclusion: you admire Tony Blair, are a product of the British "education" system, and almost certainly do work for the BBC.
Everyone else -- bookmark http://www.newsvine.com/ if you don't know it already.
Richard littlejohn said...
"You post that "opinion formers" such as David milliband and francis Maude read this blog and use this to tempt potential advertisers, but lets get serious, are they likely to be buying Anne Summers dildos, holidays in Ibiza and skimpy M&S knickers?"
Well, given the number of politics & media types frequenting this site, I suspect yes. And some may even buy such items for their partners.
As for the story, more news is good news & helps us form our own views.
Or wishes he did, Thomas. Or wishes he did.
I'm reserving judgement. In my experience, bloggers are better read than watched, and podcasting has a lot of advantages over "Internet television" one being that if there's nothing to say, you don't have to say anything. Channels are different; there's all that air to fill.
Broadcaster at 4.15. I'm tempted to Fisk that, but you know what, I just can't be arsed. So publishing a book is a crime for a blogger now is it, and good God it actually made a profit. Really mustn't do that again. Where's that hairshirt.
I will agree with one thing though, Websites do die when their creators get bored. Just to reassure you, I don't think I am showing signs of boredom. No doubt I'll start losing readers if I do, but that hasn't happened yet. September should be a record month again.
that clip of tim montgomerie was a joke right?
iain, u r rapidly turning into one of the most arrogant tarts around. did you write that catchy script for your peice to camera on the promo? it was rather shit. if u were serious about setting up something like this you would have got onboard some people who have a talent for presenting.
Net Tv`s not new and it can be run on a shoe-string.One of the people who runs this little site is a friend of mine,none of them get make money out of it,it`s journalists who want to report news rather than what they`re told to do.Apparently in the Philippines there`s been a cull of TV journalists who dont report what they`re told to report,hence this little site and some of the reports on it.I`d say that`s a very real risk here given the Gilligan thing.
http://www.fyitv.net/
This will cause a serious crisis at the BBC.
But, the politico's will not be able to bombard us with their mendacious clap-trap hopefully in the future.
Juvenal said...
But I wonder to what extent the tables would be turned if they got into No.10. Control freakery tends to come with power.
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Hardly the lesson in America with the success of right wing talk radio and Fox News and the embarassing failure of Air America.
But they're all on-message. They're popular because they're preaching to the converted, but I don't think that's juvenal's point.
I'm a communist, and even I used to watch Rush Limbaugh; not only was he really funny, but he was always great at finding the key weakness in the left that week. That is just not the case anymore. It's a circle jerk consisting of a lot of hot air and back patting, but it flatters equally the people who voted for the current administration, and so it is considered popular.
Sound familiar?
The issue is, if the Tories get into power, will the site maintain its journalistic standards, or will it become a mouthpiece or toady? These, to my mind, are more important questions than if they'll still be popular.
well I'm going to contribute to it, and I'm not a Tory.
Dale: you couldn't Fisk a phone book.
It is quite funny to see you so tetchy and sensistive about my comments though - must have hit a few raw nerves there on the mirror revealing your own MSM and dead tree press aspirations. Hasn't it occured to you that you're becoming what you feign to dispise?
I realise you're an attention-seeking narcissist, but can I ask if it isn't time for you to decide if you want to be part of the commentariat or part of the government (via the Gold List)? Colleagues are not going to trust an MP who can't keep his gossipy little trap shut on matter that hurt everybody, are they? How long do you reckon it will be before Dave calls you in for a "chat"? Seems to me you will have to make a choice pdq...
Dale: So publishing a book is a crime for a blogger now is it, and good God it actually made a profit. Really mustn't do that again. Where's that hairshirt.
Tsk.
The rich, dripping irony of people like you and Staines, who espouse the Power of the Blog ad nauseum, publishing a book to make the money the blog could not is apparently as lost on you as the key reason your IPTV channel will fail miserably (hint: read some David Ricardo).
And yawn to blog advertising. It will be a short- lived source of bugger all, as you become behind the times and irrelevant. Everybody has a shelf life, remember? If you're not in it for the money, as self-righteous bloggers like you claim to be, why the sudden focus on making money? A little tawdry for a Gold Lister/Mayoral candidate to grubbing around for the ad spend of Ann Summer dildos isn't it? I wonder if that will make the EDMs?
Dear Iain Dale
I expect that you will be untroubled by the suggestion that you couldn't fisk a phone book - who would want to !!
Good luck with the new adventure !!!
Your obedient servant etc
G Eagle
It is about time.
Anyhow, apart from disintermediated being an actual word, it is probably one of the most used but incorrectly used words to describe what the Internet and related tech does.
It is not "disintermediation" but for want of a word "DE-REintermediation". Musical chairs with some of the slower players losing out while sharper ones bring their own chair...
18 Doughty Street has brought along their own chair, and it looks like they are going to stand on it, too.
Lets have more Libertarian thought to explode the myth of the Welfare State!
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