Headline Hints of Hangovers
Sharper readers of the dead-tree-press will realise that headlines like "Kennedy 'must recover' before return" and "Sir Menzies Campbell made clear that he would be welcome but only once he is 'fully recovered' " don't make sense if he is now sober.The press is being kind and nobody is openly saying that Charlie is not a full-time passenger on the wagon. Far be it from Guido to claim any high moral ground here, in fact the prospect of finishing a bottle of Port with Charlie after lunch sounds like a fun Friday afternoon, but nobody is suggesting Guido is a potential PM-in-waiting.
To be fair, when asked on television recently when it was he last had a drink Kennedy avoided answering the question. Guido knows that he has been the worse for wear as recently as June. A trusted co-conspirator was surprised to see Kennedy coming in the office door in Portcullis House in late June, when he appeared to be the worse for drink and confused about which door led to his office. This was at four in the afternoon.
64 comments:
1. You are yourself a piss-artist of the highest order.
2. Obviously it is part of the recovery process to fall off the wagon.
3. First upcoming party conference is the Libdems, Guido starts laying into LibDems. Standard Fawkesian tactics.
4. Do you still have a large wager on Clegg being the next leader?
Shouldn't that be a lager wager?
I'm beginning to think that Lib Dem members are more humourless even than the Labour lickspittles we get whinging on here...
Is this why Guido offered to do the LibDems conference blogging?
Beats offering to do the Labour one in case Prescott wanted to shag him.
Green LD,
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Not really, depends what you mean by large.
Why does it matter if he is an alcoholic as long as he is a functioning alcoholic?
I get arseholed every night (and some days) and it doesn't stop me "functioning"
Although my liver may beg to differ.
If he is not competent as an MP then his constituents can fire him.
Guido as a piss artist yourself and former abuser of "substances" you do yourself no credit by kicking a man whilst he is down.
Some words of advice to Charlie...
You seem like a nice enough man. quit politics and find a new path in life, hopefully one that doesn't involve me paying your wages.
If slap head Hague can trouser a cool million a year for telling shite jokes to pissed up bankers just think what you could pull in.
Well nobody is suggesting that Kennedy or any LD is a PM-in-waiting, are they?!
You know, Charlie may be the one with the brown trousers, but it seems like some of the rest of the LibDems could really use an enema.
Even when in the desperate grips of alcoholism he had more charm, warmth and charisma than Ming.
But, then again, that's not too hard!
On a sober note :), who is paying for the booze that Charlie gets through? If it's the LibDems or the man himself fine, but if it's tax payers money he should be hung out to dry (Oh what a punner!).
He is no danger to the UK, he'll never be PM, (Shame really, he'd be better drunk than the sober twat we've got now, who wouldn't be?).
As said here previously the only danger is to himself and his family. If his constituents want rid of him, they have the choice, don't they?
There must be politicians with much bigger skeletons in their closet than CK!
Give the man a break, let his constituents decide.
Dear Everyone
I accept that I am too easily distracted by seeking close acquaintance with mice & other small deer
However, surely I am not alone in thinking that Senor Guido would make an excellent Prime Minister
Even after the 4th or 5th glass of Rose, he would be a marked improvement on the present incumbent
Your obedient servant etc
G Eagle
Tony Benn: teetotal
Sir Winston Churchill: almost permanently arseholed.
Your point being?
G Eagle
with that amount of brown nosing I can only assume that you must be a Lib Dem
Does your wife know?
g. eagle 4.28
I worked with g. eagle years ago in a haberdashery shop. He was a 'Sock Tucker' in those days!
Raincoaster -- with a friend like Mark Oaten, who needs an enema?
Charlie is still in denial and has yet to utter the "My name is Kennedy and I am an alcoholic" admission of condition. The arsehole still thinks he can control it but he is deluded. The stupid twats around him didnt have the nous or the balls to dump him in 2003. Typical of the snctimonious shits that inhabit that so called nice party. Guido keep kicking.
CK still got the Iraq question right, pissed up or not.
Give me a 'jolly' Charlie as PM over Dave or Tony any day!
"A trusted co-conspirator was surprised to see Kennedy coming in the office door in Portcullis House in late June, when he appeared to be the worse for drink and confused about which door led to his office. This was at four in the afternoon."
I know how Kennedy feels,a couple of us missed most of a Conservative History Soc lecture recently because the poor receptionist didn't know where the the lecture had been moved to -Portcullis House must be the most badly signed public building in London. We found the Red lion alright tho!
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I think this is a cruel world. People have personal problems. That doesn't mean that they can't contribute to the world. What is Kennedy going to do if he's excluded from politics? What company would employ him? Is he going to end up under a railway arch with a bottle in a brown paper bag? And this despite all the talent he has. I'm not a Lib supporter but I do think people should think about things like this before putting the boot in.
A healthy society has room for all sorts: drunks, gays, Catholics, students etc. and puts them to good use despite their flaws.
If I was running the Liberal party, I would be saying Kennedy is welcome back whenever he wants as the best way of helping him to recover. But they don't seem Liberal enough to do that.
How different it is in Brussels. With non-stop gubbins organised by the Swabian League of Beer Swillers and the Association of Oporto Portomaniacs to which they have to proffer their presences, MEPs obviously are permanently lathered. That's why they have quasi-beds in their offices and en suite showers and bogs.
Always very useful for the staff on Fridays when all is quiet except for the hangovers.
When Charlie was Leader he was fair game. But he's gone now and must be suffering - some say alcoholism's a disease and god knows how his wife is coping with a 15-month old baby. Leave him be Guido.
Whatever state Charlie boy is in, he was still able, even if it was from a horizontal position, to order his spinners ot to suggest he would be back as this damaging book emerged....
The 'Lets be nice to Charlie' brigade miss the point. Charlie is a drunk and in any professional organisation (company or professional partnership) he would have been dealt with by his colleagues as not fit for purpose. So why tolerate his public alcohol fueled implosion? If he is planning a comeback the first question will always be ' When did you last have a drink'? Get used to it.
Have people forgotten that Charlie is a sanctimonious waffler when sober? He never uses one short word when a string of inflated synonyms will do instead. Lots of us were 'right about Iraq', but Charlie would be 'fully and, I might say, completely vindicated with regard to the United Kingdom's disastrous and, in my opinion, totally badly mis-conceived intervention in the political-military situation of Mesopotamia...zzz'. Riding the waggon isn't going to bring back all those missing brain cells.
If he can't stop after the fiasco earlier this year then he may never do it in his current enviroment. He could become a journalist or even a blogger and then nobody would even notice. In any event he doesn't look well for his age and should think about his family. We the public don't need to be reminded what fools our politicians are.
He's a Highlander who takes a dram, no big deal say some but he's not trying to run a croft, or even a quango in Inverness.
get real you tossers, if he's after power he's fair game. His wife must have known about the prob before she married him so stop worrying about that one too.
His wife used to shag
"Im not gay" Simon Hughes , wonder if there is something else charlie is hiding
Guido, you must have been to Portcullis so I presume you're conveniently overlooking the fact that it's a veritable labyrinth. All the corridors are the same.
You don't have to be drunk to get lost in there.
Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic, even if he manages to stay on the wagon. Christ even losing a liver to drink didn't stop George Best!
The bloke needs to get his arse down the local AA group and admit he has a problem
"Guido as a piss artist yourself and former abuser of "substances" you do yourself no credit by kicking a man whilst he is down."
Good point, but some of us here aren't alcoholics or past drug-users so we can kick him as much as we like. Actually no, it's not a good point. Just because Guido is a hypocrite it doesn't change the fact that Kennedy has a drink problem while planning a return to the front line.
"Tony Benn: teetotal
Sir Winston Churchill: almost permanently arseholed."
Kennedy lacks Churchill's redeeming features. He's ginger for a start.
Och now Charlie's a good lad
and a man with a few drams won the war .. well with a little help from Soviet Russia but they were powered with Vodka.
as was said earlier "People have personal problems. That doesn't mean that they can't contribute to the world."
its true
slainte mhath
Dear Peter Hitchens 4:31pm
As Mr Darcy said, when he heard that Lydia had eloped with dem dastardlichen Wickham, I am shocked .... grieved, grieved indeed
I have been accused of many things, but never of being a Liberal
It is indeed lucky for you that you are not a mouse or ........
I have the honour to remain your obedient (albeit much aggrieved) servant and yours ever
G Eagle
Is Kennedy really about to come back to the front line? First I've heard of it. In which case, why is all this necessary? In any case, the man is ill, not a criminal.
Guido, for the nth bloody time, who cares?
This is good sport, yes, and all part of the usual bored buggering about in the dog days of August.
But give it some purpose. How about some tipple titbits related to people who currently hold office?
Churchill's main contribution to the war was to sound fairly sober when he spoke into the radio mike. We would have done better without the sozzled old coot because he let in that boring sober socialist Atlee who was allowed to plan gaining power in the meantime.........
No longer anonymous said
"Kennedy lacks Churchill's redeeming features. He's ginger for a start."
shome mistake shurely or was this an attempt at irony - check out young Winston's hair colour
Guido. With your past you're a hypocrite at best. You don't want any more acid staines on your character, so shut up, slink back to your noxious cellar and leave Charlie alone. He's suffered enough, unlike you.
Who cares MorrisOx? Well, going by the responses to this story, quite a few people. While Charlie Boy is happy being a non-entity just sat drinking himself to an early death, then its a non-story. But the moment he starts having ideas of returning to frontline politics, then his mental and physical state becomes relevant. As for not kicking a man when he's down... he's a Liberal Democrat. He deserves it.
An unreformed alcholic going after the muslim vote?
Surely the BBC could sell that one:
""many" people now believe HE is the true leader of HM's Opposition"
- The Today Prog 2002-04
£131.50 you KNOW it makes sense.
At least the Lib-Dem euphemisms are harmless and benign ?
The New Labour lexicon of "it being about".... "debate", "reform", "modernisation", "consultation", "conversation", "consensus", "initiative" just mean
"Do as we say and do it now !" or..... we'll set Alastair on you.
no longer a mong 8.34
cough!
Churchill was a ginger.
Anyway who cares, kennedy has sucked long enough at the teat of the british taxpayer, I would happily see him in the gutter
For some reason I become less charitable late at night, then I sing.
"shome mistake shurely or was this an attempt at irony - check out young Winston's hair colour"
At least Winston had the sense to lose it.
"Guido. With your past you're a hypocrite at best. You don't want any more acid staines on your character, so shut up, slink back to your noxious cellar and leave Charlie alone. He's suffered enough, unlike you."
Is that you Mrs Kennedy?
Kennedy is a Highlander and likes his dram? I know plenty of heedrom hodrums and I haven't come across any who are unconcious at 10am with a log in their pants.
Rather than worry about the leader of the liberal party that does not support defend of represent anything liberal whatsoever.
As someone who considers yourself a libertarian, why have you not commented on this governments latest bloody cheek ( if you excuse the pun )attack on our civil liberties?
The government has made watching S+M pornography on the internet a criminal offence punishable by up th 3 years in prison, so I hear.
Anon 'He has suffered enough already' Well well. Volenti non fit injuria. Who the fuck is pouring the stuff down his throat. If its Guido, please stop. Otherwise Charle get your mingin ass down to AA.
It's pretty obvious that Guido's not attempting a political comeback and Kennedy is. If he's going to put himself in the public eye, it's quite fair to take a good look at him.
And I adore all these Churchill comparisons. Honestly, if you'd asked Churchill when he last took a drink, do you think for a MOMENT that he would hesistate to tell you? Kennedy just doesn't have the balls, so spare us the comparison.
Typical inept LibDems. At least Labour's Millbank Mafia have an element of creative, if somewhat unsubtle, comment spamming on this blog yet all these Libdem fucktards seem capable of is making dumb threats. Perhaps they need to take out a few more loans and get a better class of staffer - CCHQ dumped a load of its mong crowd recently so perhaps they could recruit them?
Raincoaster said:
And I adore all these Churchill comparisons...
How about comparision to Bush&Blair?
"at least I finished my war" for starters
Anonymous said... "CK still got the Iraq question right, pissed up or not."
DONG!!!
Wrong. Myth.
You should read this. Particularly the detailed Green party explanation of what really happened. He prevaricated and dissembled.
Sorry Sandman, but if you actually read what it says, the Greens admit that the Libdems always opposed the War provided there was no evidence for WMD and provided the UN did not give their approval.
I'd call that opposing the war.
DONG!!!
"Guido. With your past you're a hypocrite at best. You don't want any more acid stains on your character, so shut up, slink back to your noxious cellar and leave Charlie alone. He's suffered enough, unlike you."
Is that you Mrs Kennedy?
No, it's Mrs Fawkes.
garypowell said
The government has made watching S+M pornography on the internet a criminal offence punishable by up th 3 years in prison, so I hear.
Does this mean you will have to change your surfing habits ?
I was on my way to meet the lovely Tabitha at St Stevens Tavern when I almost bumped into Charlie looking rather confused outside the park next to the House of Lords. He looked really out of it and rather confused about where he was heading. This was in June as well.
We say 'confused' and 'dishevelled' about people like Charles Kennedy as a way of really avoiding saying that the man had drunk more whiskey than you'd need to raise Cherie Blair 3 inches in a flotation tank.
The sooner both Mr Kennedy and his truly repellant party get on with acknowledging the alcoholic in their midst then the sooner he can be coaxed into treatment and we can all move on from being subjected to the soap opera of this unfortunate man desperately trying to claw back his integrity in public.
"The government has made watching S+M pornography on the internet a criminal offence punishable by up th 3 years in prison, so I hear. "
Are you sure it's all S&M and not just really violent porn e.g. fake snuff? (Can't say I paid much attention so wouldn't know.)
no longer,
Its all s&m, so that could mean spanking,knipple pulling (of either sex) etc etc etc
And who is to say what is sexual?
under this law looking at photos on ogrish.com could in theory get you 3 years inside, in fact as there is probably somebody some where who gets off on looking at dead bodies in Iraq that makes the news illegal.
Iain Dale links to ogrish.com I presume that would potentially make him an accomplice.
No doubt if Mrs Fawkes were to take pictures of Guido on his rack and post them here that would also count as forbidden porno.
No longer anonymous said:
"Kennedy lacks Churchill's redeeming features. He's ginger for a start."
That so reminds me of something a friend said to me just before the last election - "you can't vote Tory, Michael Howard is ugly".
'... leave Charlie alone. He's suffered enough, unlike you."
Racked, hanged, drawn and quartered? I knew the Libdems were precipitate, narrow and cruel but what else have they done to Charlie that wasn't done to Guido - and Kennedy's not even a Roman Catholic either.
Michael Howard has a much nicer face than the vile Tony Blair with that lazy eye. Blair looks creepy and unsettling. There's just so obviously something wrong with him.
Someone mentioned that Simon Hughes shagged Kennedy's wife. Is Hughes an alki as well? She's a big old bird. Must have been a case of "fart and give us a clue".
I go with what a previous post said:
I'd rather have an inebriated Charlie-boy than the messianic poodle we're saddled with just now!
Anonymous said...
Churchill's main contribution to the war was to sound fairly sober when he spoke into the radio mike.10:17 PM
Didn`t they get someone else to do "Churchill`s" speeches on the radio?The actor involved claimed the great man was "too busy" to do them himself,I supposed being off your face could loosley be termed that.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/Observer291000.html
Very sad, really. I wish I could work up indignation about champagne charlie, but I cannot. I hope he sorts his life out.
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