Handbags at Brown : Gordon's SpAd Attacks Gay Paper
Following Pink News' investigation which revealed that Gordon has consistently failed to turn up to vote for gay rights, his SpAd Damian McBride went off on one: "This is a ridiculous, irresponsible and shameful piece of garbage from a newspaper which does not understand the parliamentary process. If The Pink News wants to portray Gordon Brown as homophobic, can they explain why he has done more than any politician in history to reform the tax system in favour of gay couples".
Editor Marc Shoffman said: "Pink News does not believe the report was irresponsible, whilst we understand the time pressures of the Chancellor, the fact is that if the Whips believe the legislation was 'flagship' this suggests that someone who themselves seeks to become Prime Minister should also attend... The Treasury is a 5 minute walk from the House of Commons, if you passionately believe in something you can take some time out of the day to vote for it, especially as many of the votes were conducted outside of office hours."
Gordon has on 14 separate occasions failed to vote when issues relating to gay equality were voted on. He has failed to support the government's equalisation of the age of consent, the abolition of Section 28, gay couples being able to jointly adopt, civil partnerships and the Equality Act. Tony Blair made the votes...
Editor Marc Shoffman said: "Pink News does not believe the report was irresponsible, whilst we understand the time pressures of the Chancellor, the fact is that if the Whips believe the legislation was 'flagship' this suggests that someone who themselves seeks to become Prime Minister should also attend... The Treasury is a 5 minute walk from the House of Commons, if you passionately believe in something you can take some time out of the day to vote for it, especially as many of the votes were conducted outside of office hours."
Gordon has on 14 separate occasions failed to vote when issues relating to gay equality were voted on. He has failed to support the government's equalisation of the age of consent, the abolition of Section 28, gay couples being able to jointly adopt, civil partnerships and the Equality Act. Tony Blair made the votes...
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What's more I'll bet that GeeBEE has managed to find time to vote for all sorts of useless garbage even when it had a guaranteed huge majority. it's interesting that his vote is worse than Blair's on this subject when overall Blair is known to have such a poor voting record. Random bias? Hmmm.
Perhaps Gordon is pitching for the heterosexual vote. Quite a clever strategy, I'd have thought. At this rate there'll be no-one else to turn to,
It is already very evident that Brown is a bully. The other side to this character trait is often cowardice.
If Brown believes that the homosexual lifestyle is something that he does not support or wish to encourage, then he is entitled to that belief: his position demands that he should at least shift his fat ass off his Treasury chair and waddle over to the House to make his position/attitude clear. Until that hapens then we are all entitled to conclude that he is a closet homophobe.
Given Tony Blair's poor attendence record, surely you mean even Tony Blair made the votes ;o)
The Gay Pink News people seem to have a rather, "if you're not with us, you are against us" attitude in saying, "Gordon Brown has consistently failed to support gay rights laws." He hasn't spoken out against Gay rights either, so what exactly is their point?
I am at a loss to see how McBride could describe the article as 'ridiculous', 'irresponsible' or a 'shameful piece of garbage' as it is none of those things.
I think what he meant to say was that it was not something Brown wanted publicised.
why don't you point out the divisions where the so liberal Dave voted against?
and for the sake of accurancy, Tony didn0t made all those votes. He missed votes about Section 28 and Civil Partnerships.
Maybe he's sucking up to Rupert M ?
An openly gay P.M.would be a hoot. Pym Fortuyn shook thing up in Amsterdam a few years ago.....
Surely a fastidious presbytarian son-of-the-manse man of conscience would've been there if he'd thought he were promoting virtue rather than vice?
me thinks perhaps the chancellor doth protest to much maybe or his wife doesnt know which way to turn in bed.
I passionately believe in my right to use the word 'gay' in its original sense prior to being corrupted to its present meaning... All the 'gays' I have ever seen have not one iota of gaiety about them... They are either serious nasty plonkers like Tatchell or just plain horrible little bits of work such as George Michael... Gawd save us all from either type..! I do not care if Brown or Bliar are gay or have that 'tendency'... Both are total twats who could not run a piss up in a brewery between them..!
"I think what he meant to say was that it was not something Brown wanted publicised."
or that the accusion of being homophobic isn't true
Presumably Brown thought to himself "I'll be buggered if I'll go into the same lobby as Mandelson, Twigg and Bradshaw".
Can you not approve of homosexuality without being a "homophobe"?
Gay rights, blah, blah.
Perhaps Brown considers that raising the minimum age for smoking is more important than reducing the minimum age for sodomy.
I dont think our pink friends have forgiven Brownstuff for his wife having a baby. After all "staight people only have babies to piss of gays, and proove they arnt secret homosexuals anyway," dont they?
Brown's voting record on gay rights is probably of no interest to 99% of the people in this country. He's the Chancellor, not Minister for Equality
What is of interest is his constant raising of taxes - a far bigger threat to our freedom than his failure to turn up for a few votes that he probably didn't feel the need to turn up to because homosexual equality was bound to prevail.
Why doesn't Pink News feature an interview with Mohammed Sarwar or even Qaradawi - I like to see how much interest Muslims have in non-Muslim lobby groups...............
allbloodytaken..yes, yes, yes.
Maybe McBride was referring to Nulab then.
"Given Tony Blair's poor attendence record, surely you mean even Tony Blair made the votes"
Infact Tony was absent for the votes about Section 28 and Civil Partnership.
Cameron didn't vote to repeal Section 28 (he voted for the tory "compromise") and he voted against gay adoption. He voted for civil partnerships (but he missed some divisions about them too)
Isn't it grand to read a loony rant - thank you "allbloodytaken".
You can't expect the man to spend too much time in Parliament, after all it must take a lot of hours to come up with new and interesting ways of bleeding the nation dry.
Did I dream Ruff-Cock? Gordon, gay? Are you sure? Didn't I read somewhere that he was married - that can't be right - surely if he was gay he'd just admit it and get on with having bum sex with men.
"Gordon has on 14 separate occasions failed to vote when issues relating to gay equality were voted on. He has failed to..." etc.
Just a slight note of dissent here. I feel that "failed to" is a touch pejorative. After all, would it not mean the same thing if you said "has not voted"? After all, "failing to" vote does not always mean disapproval of the motion itself. Perhaps Brown is just hedging his bets, eh?
But Guido, maybe that is the way you feel about Brown's voting record, anyway....
allbloodytaken,
we are called florentines; and remember, when you were still swinging in the trees we were already froscio.
GS said...
Isn't it grand to read a loony rant - thank you "allbloodytaken".
...ahem..! What is so loony about my desire to be able to use the word 'gay' in its original meaning - happy, lighthearted, joyful - rather than having it used to describe homosexuality..? When have Tatchell, Michael and all the other (in)famous homosexual;s shown themselves publicly as happy, lighthearted, joyful..? Whining moaners seems to be order of the day... I am no loony... I am just sick to death of hearing about 'gay rights' which nowadays seem to consist of denying heterosexuals their rights... As I understand it the new legislation coming in means that a homosexual only club may ban any heterosexual on the grounds of heterosuxuality BUT a heterosexual only club would be breaking the law in refusing entrance to homosexuals on the basis of their homosexuality... This so called 'positive' discrimination - be it sexual, racial, religious - is wrong... One set of laws / rules for all (including our piss poor politicians) AND as few laws / rules as possible... And now a curse: by all that is unholy in this world may the all hypocritical Ruth Kelly and the spurs spinning John Prescott end up living either side of you...
saddlepunk.
being married does not stop you being gay...Mark Oaten can tell you that!
QED
"Gordon has on 14 separate occasions failed to vote when issues relating to gay equality were voted on. He has failed to..." etc.
Who cares ?
I am tired of lobby groups bleating that people do not conform to their agenda.
Oh please, all this talk about the gays having it to easy. How easy is your life if you have to think whether you are in a 'safe' street where you can hold a partners hand or god forbid, give them a kiss.
Or how about having to listen to someone at a party tell you the Nazis had the right idea, or getting calls in the night about how someone is going to rape and kill you.
If you look at those comments above and replaced the word gay with blacks or women, you would be in no doubt of their polictical persuasion and how reasonable they are.
While things have improved in this country a great deal, there is still a minority who think we need to be kept in our place, often with violence.
In reference to anonymous: I suggest you take on the 'minority' you talk of but leave the rest of us alone... Personally I do not know anybody who actually cares if somebody is homosexual or not BUT personally I am sick to death of the 'I AM GAY' brigade demanding greater 'rights' than everybody else no matter the colour or creed... If Gordon Brown is too busy to vote or just does not want to vote on any particular issue that is down to him... The inference from the 'Pink News' is that Brown is homophobic... But this is the view ALL the time taken by 'gays' - if you do not support 'us' you are against us... The really hurtful truth is that the majority of the population do not give a tuppeny shit about 'gays' or so called 'gay issues' as they have their own lives to lead which they would like to do without constant threats of being called homophobic...
Breathe slowly, "allbloodytaken", and think calming thoughts.
Such anger!
Gosh.
What greater rights? The right not to get fired because I'm gay, the right to marry someone I love, the right to be treated the same as straights. But of course I'm just being to damm uppity, I should know my place. All these gays flinging their disgusting habits in your face. Why can't they just be invisble like in the old days?
The Pink paper was raising a genuine concern to its readers. What is Gordon Browns position on Gay Issues? As it is pretty likely he is going to be Prime Minister within the year. The only thing they can judge him on is what he has said and voted on.
I'm sure you'd agree that it would be bad if the Prime Minister was anti-gay? So since it is generally bad political manners to say 'bloody shirtlifters, it turns my stomach'. You might be able to judge someones true stance from what they actually vote on.
There are several inferences to draw from his voting pattern.
1. He is a closet homophobe.
2. He does not give tuppeny shit
about the gays.
3. He is in the closet and is terrifed that a pro gay stance will uncover his terrible secret.
Any of those options might be of concern to the readers of the Pink Paper.
Correct Answer is 3.
GS said...
Breathe slowly, "allbloodytaken", and think calming thoughts.
There is no anger at all just a straight statement is all. As to 'anonymous 10.35pm' so what if Gordon Brown has no wish to vote on so called 'gay' matters if he wishes not to..? It is and should be of no concern to heterosexuals or homosexuals because what counts is his (in)ability to do the job he has that matters...
As to being 'fired for being gay' good grief..! God help any company that tried that nowadays... Just a few weeks ago a 'gay' received a large pay out for being 'bullied' (ie spoken to a bit harshly from what I could gather) at work some years previously... Give it a rest..!
But my main point originally in my original post was that I would like to be able to use the word 'gay' in its original uncorrupted form but I cannot because it has been hijacked to nowadays mean homosexuals and homosexual activity... In my view this is a great loss to this wonderful language of ours..!
No doubt because I hold this view dear ol' 'anonymous' will mark me as homophobic which I am not... Many others hold the same view I am sure but that does not mean they are homophobic but I covered that too...
Can it be long though before so called 'gay activists' insist on everybody signing pro-gay pledges..?
Words can so easily be hijacked and the loss of 'gay' in its original sense was a bit annoying. But it's hilarious that 'gay' is now being used as an alternative to 'rubbish'. Tee heee!
He`s not hompohobic,him and Tony just dont get on very well.
"allbloodytaken"...
It may be time to speak frankly with someone close to you about your worries and concerns about gay men.
Is there a Mrs Allbloodytaken? She may have more insight into the source of your fears than you imagine.
Let me get this straight, a lobby group has been set up to defend a minoritys beliefs and rights (what is the actual statistic - I heard 10% of people are homosexual but I could well be wrong).
One MP doesn't feel strongly enough (either way) to vote for issues relating to this minority and suddenly he's a 'gay basher'.
What other lobby groups defend similar minoritys (in statistical terms - so if 10% was right above then other minoritys that relate to 10% of our population) in this country and what are some politicians attitudes towards them? I'm sure there may be some interesting results...
PS aren't we a democracy anyway? Majority rule and all that?
Why has Gordon got his KCs in a knot over this. Doth the lady protest too much?
To be fair, allbloodytaken, whilst you may lament the loss of the word 'gay', you have gained the use of the words 'chutney ferret', 'uphill gardener', 'marauding arse bandit', 'prime player of the pink oboe', 'anal stormtrooper', 'bumfun boy', 'battyman', 'friend of dorothy', etc etc etc.
The language prevails.
And you clearly are homophobic.
Having said that, latestarter is right, the outrage over the fact that 'gay' now means 'rubbish' is hilarious.
Lord save us from sanctimony.
Mr Gisoad in answer to you I would not dream of using any of the foul alternatives YOU suggest for describing homosexuals or homosexuality... Nor would my wife or our children... I think though that a story from 'Pink ews' sums up the 'gay activist' fascist view... It concerns ten firefighters who REFUSED to participate in a 'Pride Scotia' event who Glasgow Fire Service’s decision placed under disciplinary investigation... So now due to good old fashioned political correctness and a minority of 'gay activist' lobbying and whining efforts are being made to force people to take part in 'gay' events against their wishes... As I said in a previous post God help anybody who just wants to get on and lead their life with no interference..! Such a person is automatically a homophobe if they do not actively and iopenly support the actions and ideas of the oh so (un)happy 'gay' few... By the way the 'spin' and twaddle of so many 'stories' (such as Brown not voting on 'gay rights' issues) in the 'Pink News' is incredibly funny and I shall now take a look every so often especially as even the great spinmeister Alastair Campbell would be hard put to twist facts further...
Strapworld - "being married does not stop you being gay...Mark Oaten can tell you that!"
No Shit Sherlock.
I would not dream of using any of the foul alternatives YOU suggest for describing homosexuals or homosexuality... Nor would my wife or our children...
No, and neither would our vicar. I remain appalled at the parlous state of the King's English and shall be writing in the strongest terms to the London Times and our Prime Minister Mr Chamberlain.
Mr Gisoad you can only spew abuse - I notice you are very quiet about the persecution of the Glasgow firemen for their NOT wanting to go on a 'gay rights' event... I think that soon it will be compulsory for everybody to attend such events or face being called homophobe... Do you suppose Prescott is a homophobe Mr Gisoad..? No stories in the press or in blogs about him touching up blokes so I suppose he must be... That no doubt would be how 'meeja spin' could be added... I shall now continue my totally gay (in a non homosexual way) day... :)
Mr Gisoad said...
To be fair, allbloodytaken, whilst you may lament the loss of the word 'gay', you have gained the use of the words 'chutney ferret', 'uphill gardener', 'marauding arse bandit', 'prime player of the pink oboe', 'anal stormtrooper', 'bumfun boy', 'battyman', 'friend of dorothy', etc etc etc.
You missed out 'Cocoa Shunter' - 'Fudge Packer'- 'Pirate of Men's Pants' - 'Beef Bayonet' - 'Chutney Champion' - 'Chocolate Motorway Motorist' and many more. You need to improve your vocabulary
It's just too easy to laugh at your barking homophobic nonsense , Mr Allbloodytaken.
What's more it's plain wrong of that young goodlooking Mr Gisoad to tease.
Surely it's time for your pills and a recuperative snooze...
Odd gs that you are another who refuses to even acknowledge the sheer dreadfulness of the fact that firefighters who REFUSED to go on a 'gay pride' event in Glasgow are now facing disciplinary action... Read the 'Pink News' which gleefully reports it... But not at all odd that because I would like to see a word that used to mean happy and joyful and lighthearted and carefree being put back to its original use that I am a 'homophobe' in your eyes which is the immediate response from anybody wanting to not allow facts or sense or reason get in the way of what little thought process they possess... :)
Right, I've had enough of this.
All the 'gays' I have ever seen have not one iota of gaiety about them... They are either serious nasty plonkers like Tatchell...When have Tatchell, Michael and all the other (in)famous homosexual;s shown themselves publicly as happy, lighthearted, joyful..? Whining moaners seems to be order of the day...Just a few weeks ago a 'gay' received a large pay out for being 'bullied' (ie spoken to a bit harshly from what I could gather)...Do you suppose Prescott is a homophobe Mr Gisoad..? No stories in the press or in blogs about him touching up blokes so I suppose he must be...
You're a homophobe. Many people - myself included - might have some sympathy for people being branded homophobic for not wanting to attend a gay rights event, but you're just spouting ignorant drivel. Ignorant because George Michael has frequently shown himself in public to be 'happy, lighthearted, joyful' - he's a f*cking entertainer. Ignorant because you believe that homophobic abuse constitutes "being spoken to a bit harshly". Drivel because you regress to the classic anti-argument of someone who has no point (cf your Prescott comment). And for such a staunch defender of the English Language you display a lamentable attitude to its correct application.
Incidently: "as few laws / rules as possible..." What? What?
We've got your number, sunshine. The 21st century arrived about six years ago, and you lost.
Mr Gisoad you are obviously a debater of some great standing so I shall leave you to mass debate with regard to this matter to your heart's content as mass debating is obviously what you do so well... Please do try to not have a fit of apoplexy but if you must by all means go ahead... I love the '...We've got your number, sunshine...' is / was that some sort of pathetic little threat..? As I have stated before ALL people like you can do is scream and screach 'HOMOPHOBE' at anybody who does not toe the minority gay activist line and who dares to offer any opinion contrary to that held by the 'gay rights' movement... I am proud tho' to have wound up one little fascist like you no matter what sexual orientation / lifestyle you prefer... :)
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