Google Geeks Get a Move On
This blog is hosted by Blogger.com, part of Google. Blogger has been having unexplained problems and has driven Iain Dale to attempt DIY repairs. My own geeks say (a) it is nothing to do with them and (b) it is fine if you are using the Firefox browser. Guido uses Firefox because it is quicker and allows him to open tabbed pages simultaneously. Download and switch to Firefox and your life will be better.
Iain warns that if they don't sort it out he will drop using Blogger. Google's Rachel Whetstone has promised Iain things will be sorted. Quickly please.
Iain warns that if they don't sort it out he will drop using Blogger. Google's Rachel Whetstone has promised Iain things will be sorted. Quickly please.
26 comments:
Maybe Mr Dale should consider dropping using the flawed products of Microsoft. That would solve many problems, including this one.
There's no dispute.
Opera 8.54 or 9.0
Fast, safe and Norwegian.
I've had lots of aggravation in the past couple of days. I generally use Firefox, but tried other browsers to no avail. The problem was with the servers at blogger.com; apparently fixed ... for now.
Google's ultimate defence it that Blogger is free. Yes, but what about all the time and trouble bloggers go to in creating acres of pages where Google can place its ads?
Fuller: Google:
a) Doesn't force ads on the page
b) If you chose to put them on, you make cash out of them
c) You can put ads from another ad provider on them
d) Check your facts.
I can certainly agree that Firefox is a superior browser to IE. The multiple tab feature is so go you wonder why nobody thought of it before. You can to get a little proggy called "no script" to tag onto it. This emiminates pop ups, ads and a lot of low level viruses.
Perhaps blogger is a victim of its own success regarding the constant service failures.
The problem remains that viewers using IE can often be confused about references to things that only pop up on Firefox and vice versa.
I had Firefox, but stopped using it because it really didn't like my blog platform, and several online retailers I wanted to use weren't set up to work with it. IE is far from perfect though.
Rachel Whetstone is a pretty senior figure at Google. I wonder why she would take such a personal interest in a UK political site?
well, now we all have our nice cosy anoraks on....I'm an IE user, I used to get the sidebar, now I don't, I didn't touch anything. Some muppet out there did. Stop the muppets playing around and any browser will do.
OK anoraks off, let's get back to silly sexual innuendo....
Firstly I use Firefox on Linux, at home.
What I cam tell you that whilst blogger.com has issues, so does all the side code that provides counters and advertising.
It's not unknown for pages of your own to be lost for a few hours by Blogger, though, if my Bloglines links are correct.
I put some new sutff on my blog but when I did a search it was old stuff, when does new stuff come up.
I agree with phoenix01 et al. Opera is a superb browser with a mail server BUILT IN (no separate Outlook Express, POP3 retrieval etc). Get to know its many many features and I believe you will never go back. It integrates beautifully with AVG (anti-virus) etc as well.
Firefox is also very good. I alternate between the 2 and only use IE to test websites to see what 'other people' see.
I'm not going to slag off Blogger but I will just say that I moved to having an opera blog as you can see by this where you also get forums and photo galleries thrown in if you wish. Very configurable and no probs. I run 4 very different blogs/groups there (which part explains why the OneLawForAll blog has been a bit piss-poor; it would also help if epicurus had finished the website, dig dig)
Anyway Guido, good luck.
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It's stuff all to do with Blogger: it is IE's ridiculous and outdated inability to deal reliably with Cascading Style Sheets, a very beautiful and elegant system which has become far more prevalent amongst web designers in recent years. Unfortunately, whilst every other browser supports CSS standard 3 (with which you can do some very, very cool things, e.g. nested menus), IE does not even fully support standard 1.
I repeat, this is nothing to do with Blogger per se. If you wish to complain, may I suggest that you hate-spam Bill Gates, whose company is so shit that even he no longer wants anything to do with it.
Mind you, I'm use Macs, so maybe I'm just biased...
DK
Reading your pizza piece I can see why you didn't let my comment about Iain going to israeliapologist.com appear.
Your bog, your propaganda. Pity you're losing the war.
IE7 is free and available for download now - just google for the link. Better than Firefox by a country mile.
I doubt it's anything to do with Blogger. More likely novice tinkering with templates and CSS. I've certainly experienced similar behaviour whilst tweeking my own site template. Agreed Firefox is far superior to IE though.
Rachel Whetstone is a pretty senior figure at Google. I wonder why she would take such a personal interest in a UK political site?
'cos she's very altruistic and lives with Steve Hilton who creams the Cameron Party for £276.000 pa. Moreover she is a former Political Secretary to Michael Howard, MP who bequeathed his job to his Campaign Organiser David Cameron whose son has a godmother called Rachel Whetstone.
As I said altruism
I've had to stop visiting Dale's blog recently because whenever I do it crashes Firefox on the Mac, I don't know if it has anything to do with his 'fixes'.
No problem with this blog though. Very strange.
blogger's gone from brilliant to shite in rapid time - part of google's new corporate obsession with volume rather than quality
I see the tech zelots are about.
Bill Gates is the devil, bla bla bla. Use Linux bla bla bla. I would have Steve Jobs babies, but I'm a man, bla bla bla.
Id reiterate the call to get Firefox - the latest beta version of IE is a pale imitation and a real dog and wont get better - got the firefox way.
Aplogies for the dull techie interlude.
Anybody who criticises Microsoft is just somebody with an inferiority complex. They can't stand somebody else being successful and have to slag them off. Despite what everybody thinks Microsoft were successful because they made BETTER products. You Devil worshippers out there might think Bill Gates beat Lotus or NetScape with dirty tricks or pacts with the unholy one but the truth is his products were generally BETTER, EASIER to program for and CHEAPER.
Similarly I would love to have a Mac (and a Mercedes on my drive) but like most people I don't because I don't have several grand spare to spend on buying something that isn't as good in many respects as cheaper alternatives.
Bill Gates brought computing to the masses by making it cheap and accessible. He prised it out of the hands of people who wanted it only for the elite (like IBM, Apple and all journalists). Bill Gates is the reason your reading this blog. For that he will forever be dispised by elitists and loved by people like me.
lkdjasd:
Fuller: Google:
a) Doesn't force ads on the page
b) If you chose to put them on, you make cash out of them
c) You can put ads from another ad provider on them
d) Check your facts.
I stand corrected. Still, Blogger contributes to the Google feelgood factor, so I reckon they have a duty to make it work.
Firefox has been much better than iE for several years, but with the launch of iE7 (currently in its 3rd Beta release), Microsoft is catching up and now offers tabbed browsing at last. However, Firefox will probably have launched its next generation browser before Microsoft has a full production version of iE7.
Although microsoft is closing the gap on functionality, it is still a long way behind on stability and is likely to remain there.
And there you have it. Of course the latest build of IE7 is bad ... IT'S A F&*()^% BETA!! And since it's built with exactly the same engine as Firefox 1.5 can you please tell me the differences between them in speed please? IMO If you want a really fast browser then switch to Safari on OSX 10.4.7 - of course having Jobs' babies is optional though.
dodonline: Anybody who criticises Microsoft is just somebody with an inferiority complex. They can't stand somebody else being successful and have to slag them off.
Or they could be a web developer who is sick and tired of spending half their time trouble-shooting for IE and IE alone. Someone like... well.. me.
Despite what everybody thinks Microsoft were successful because they made BETTER products.
Your use of the past tense is entirely correct.
You Devil worshippers out there might think Bill Gates beat Lotus or NetScape with dirty tricks or pacts with the unholy one but the truth is his products were generally BETTER, EASIER to program for and CHEAPER.
Or, of course, in the case of the Windows interface, nicked from Apple. Allegedly, of course.
O, and I'm the only Devil around here, thank you. Although, do feel free to worship me.
Similarly I would love to have a Mac (and a Mercedes on my drive) but like most people I don't because I don't have several grand spare to spend on buying something that isn't as good in many respects as cheaper alternatives.
1) It rather depends how you value your maintenance time.
2) Several grand? The current lineup starts at £350. Please do stop propagating this load of cobblers; whilst it was true back in '97, it hasn't been so for a goodly time.
3) To be honest, you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about, have you?
Bill Gates brought computing to the masses by making it cheap and accessible. He prised it out of the hands of people who wanted it only for the elite (like IBM, Apple and all journalists).
Well, not exactly. He produced and licensed an operating system that helpfully coincided with the first real production of cheaper components. Since then he has operated a near monopoly and forced producer prices down. A bit like the eeeeeeevil supermarkets.
His business model was, coincidentally, rather different from Apple's; they make their money out of hardware, not software. Hence the fact that we get things like iMovie, iTunes, iDVD, etc. free. To persuade us to buy the hardware.
Bill Gates is the reason your reading this blog. For that he will forever be dispised by elitists and loved by people like me.
Well that, of course, is your perogative. But it is Apple that has ensured that you can buy and read ever-cheaper (in real terms) books and newspapers.
Julian: And there you have it. Of course the latest build of IE7 is bad ... IT'S A F&*()^% BETA!!
Under anyone else's release regime, it would be an alpha.
And since it's built with exactly the same engine as Firefox 1.5 can you please tell me the differences between them in speed please?
1) If this is true, then this will sort out many of the problems and be really good news. Unfortunately, a programmer friend of mine has found that it does not render like Firefox and that many of the problems of IE6 remain. Have they deliberately crippled the functionality or what?
2) If it uses the same rendering engine as Firefox, then why the hell are they still testing? Why has the beta taken so long?
3) You are right about Safari, although it lack of ability with certain Javascripts has led to my shift to Camino.
Guido, sorry if this is simply too dull, my deeeah, but I get tired of being lectured by the ignorant.
DK
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