At least while they're not there, they can't add to the huge, burdensome level of legislation that they feel the need to continually expand in order to justify their existence.
Anonymous, at least the MPs Committee on pensions is still working and has stuck a spanner in the works of the DWP by supporting those who have lost their pensions, by agreeing that the Govt is guilty of maladministration. Watch out for another Govt climbdown.
You just do not realise the demands on our time, the late hours, the opening of fetes and carnivals, the local meetings of councils, official bodies and small local pressure groups, the telephone which never stops ringing! the pager with messages from above telling me what to say in certain circumstances, the queries from the press, television and radio. The late night television appearances reading tomorrows newspapers, similarily the radio also. Desert Island Discs, then holidays with the family and those fact finding visits to other less glamorous countries like Cuba and Jamaica. The International conferences and the European in depth investigations into why immigrants want to come to england. The west lothian question which does bother many english people and who do not listen to me! The many raffle tickets I have to buy (although John Major never did buy any he always carried old ones in his top pocket, it is a trick I never remember!) When at restaurants I am always bothered by people wanting to moan, similarly when I am shopping with my wife, or mistress I get 'mugged' by people who want to know why I have such long holidays. I can tell you all this is NO holiday and I cannot wait to get back to the house for a quiet life!
All this anti MP stuff is childish. Someone's got to the job and it's not as though British politicians are particularly wealthy. You can either pay them nothing in which case it'll be a game for the rich or you pay them a decent wage with some perks (as is the case now). An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank.
Yet again we have the old lie that MPs must in some way not be working if they are not physically present in the House of Commons chamber. MPs have an enormous job of work to do in their constituencies which can only be done when not in the Palace of Westminster.
I used to work in a constituency office and it certainly felt like more work for me, having your boss buzzing around the office all day insted of safely tucked up on the green benches...
Blair's Holiday (to the tune of Cliff Richard's Summer Holiday)
Blair's off on a summer holiday. Prezza in charge for a week or two. Middle-East left in crisis. Plenty of worries for me and you. For a week or two.
Blair's off where the sun shines brightly. Prezza doesn't seem to have a clue. We've seen it in the blogs. Will rumours 'bout Rosie be true?
Prezza in charge this summer holiday. Doing things Gordon always wanted to. Blair's on another freebie holiday. Whiter than white, too good to be true. For me and you.
There's a slightly serious side to this that I posted here
Yawn - this attack on MPs is old and dull. The vast majority of MPs work extremely hard during recess in their constituencies - I don't just mean opening fetes etc, but serious meetings about important local issues and surgeries for constituents. Yes they may have a few weeks off during that time, but surely MPs are actually allowed some time to themselves? Cutting recess to say 8 weeks so that the House returns mid-September would be sensible, but its not as if they're spending the whole time sunning themselves in Mauritius. Well, maybe a few grandee Tories are.
Anonymous 10.24 has a point, so here's a different take on it.
The Parliamentary recesses and Fridays are when most MPs get most of their important work done, attending to constituency issues in which they actually have the power to do some good.
For the rest of the time, they are effectively on holiday, swanning around the delightful surroundings of the Commons, enjoying its subsidized restaurants and bars, and indulging the fantasy that they can actually change things.
Cynical? Well, no more so than the idea that MPs spend the summer recesses sat on their arses at home or sunning themselves on a beach somewhere.
If they want so much time off maybe they should all become teachers.... oh, wait erm...
I take it running a nation isn't that important at all. I mean, who wants to pass bills in the summer when you could be sipping on a Bloody Mary and enjoying a BBQ? Do what the rest of the nation does and GET BACK TO WORK!
Methinks Guido has picked another 'opinion-divider' issue here....the fact is that some MPs work a 90-hour week (seriously - I can personally vouch for this), and others can get by with as little as 20. (And then there is Prescott....) The difference comes in the amount of constituency surgeries and resultant casework handled, and letters to Ministers, also Adjournment Debates on constituency issues(which require a lot of prior MP homework.) Sitting on the benches in the Chamber is the least demanding of MP tasks in some ways - contributing to the work of a Select Committee, and taking an active role in Westminster Hall debates can often involve many more hours' concentration and hard work. Opening Fetes and 'pressing flesh'is a doddle by comparison.
It really is frightfully unfair to snipe at Westminster's Finest in this manner.
Poor Cousin Barrington richly deserves his eleven weeks of summer respite from the huge burdens of representing Great Piddling on the Dunny, as richly indeed as he deserves the three weeks at Christmas, the three weeks at Easter, the fortnight in February, the two weeks at Whitsun...
"An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank."
Having seen both up close investment bankers work orders of magnitude harder than your average backbencher and deserve every penny they get. Investment bankers pay is directly linked to the revenue they produce for their companies (and therefore this country), the pay is highly volatile, pensions are terrible, there are almost no expenses these days, the job security is non-existent and the hours are ludicrous. I can't see how investment banking pay in any way justifies the pay/pensions/expenses/perks of backbench MP's.
Being an MP is money for old rope. I look forward to doing it when I become too old to do anything more useful.
"An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank."
Why do you insist on quoting an MP's Basic salary when everyone knows that including secretarial allowances, bloated expense allowances, subsidised everything, pension benefits ordinary folk can only dream about, etc, etc. - the real figure is at least double that.
.... and please let's not forget the tens of thousands of Whitehall civil servants (whose numbers have increased massively under this lot) also about to embark on their ridiculously long holidays without even the pathetic excuses of "catching up with constituency work /opening fetes, etc to fall back on.
If our MPs didn't spend so much time interfering in our lives then their long holidays might be justified. By enlarging the role of the state they give themselves more work. They should damn well suffer for it.
Perhaps we should bear in mind that when the Blair's go on holiday they don't, as a rule, pay for anything. Last time they freeloaded off another newly born sucker ... oops ... enjoyed Sir Cliff Richard's hospitality it is reputed that they contributed less to Sir Cliff's tennis charity in settlement than one might pay for a lobster dinner for two without wine, entree or dessert at Scott's of Mayfair.
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........and will retire with an inflated secure pension.
fat pigs in the trough!
At least while they're not there, they can't add to the huge, burdensome level of legislation that they feel the need to continually expand in order to justify their existence.
Cunts, the lot of 'em.
And never work on Sundays, like some have to...
A bit disingenuous to suggest they’re actually on “holiday” don’t you think?
Anonymous, at least the MPs Committee on pensions is still working and has stuck a spanner in the works of the DWP by supporting those who have lost their pensions, by agreeing that the Govt is guilty of maladministration. Watch out for another Govt climbdown.
You just do not realise the demands on our time, the late hours, the opening of fetes and carnivals, the local meetings of councils, official bodies and small local pressure groups, the telephone which never stops ringing! the pager with messages from above telling me what to say in certain circumstances, the queries from the press, television and radio. The late night television appearances reading tomorrows newspapers, similarily the radio also. Desert Island Discs, then holidays with the family and those fact finding visits to other less glamorous countries like Cuba and Jamaica. The International conferences and the European in depth investigations into why immigrants want to come to england. The west lothian question which does bother many english people and who do not listen to me! The many raffle tickets I have to buy (although John Major never did buy any he always carried old ones in his top pocket, it is a trick I never remember!) When at restaurants I am always bothered by people wanting to moan, similarly when I am shopping with my wife, or mistress I get 'mugged' by people who want to know why I have such long holidays. I can tell you all this is NO holiday and I cannot wait to get back to the house for a quiet life!
Happy Holidays? HUMBUG.
All this anti MP stuff is childish. Someone's got to the job and it's not as though British politicians are particularly wealthy. You can either pay them nothing in which case it'll be a game for the rich or you pay them a decent wage with some perks (as is the case now). An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank.
Do they still draw all their expenses while on holiday?
Yet again we have the old lie that MPs must in some way not be working if they are not physically present in the House of Commons chamber. MPs have an enormous job of work to do in their constituencies which can only be done when not in the Palace of Westminster.
I used to work in a constituency office and it certainly felt like more work for me, having your boss buzzing around the office all day insted of safely tucked up on the green benches...
Blair's Holiday (to the tune of Cliff Richard's Summer Holiday)
Blair's off on a summer holiday.
Prezza in charge for a week or two.
Middle-East left in crisis.
Plenty of worries for me and you.
For a week or two.
Blair's off where the sun shines brightly.
Prezza doesn't seem to have a clue.
We've seen it in the blogs.
Will rumours 'bout Rosie be true?
Prezza in charge this summer holiday.
Doing things Gordon always wanted to.
Blair's on another freebie holiday.
Whiter than white, too good to be true.
For me and you.
There's a slightly serious side to this that I posted here
Mr Fawkes......you need to get past your "jealousy". true?
Jealous of what?
Yawn - this attack on MPs is old and dull. The vast majority of MPs work extremely hard during recess in their constituencies - I don't just mean opening fetes etc, but serious meetings about important local issues and surgeries for constituents. Yes they may have a few weeks off during that time, but surely MPs are actually allowed some time to themselves? Cutting recess to say 8 weeks so that the House returns mid-September would be sensible, but its not as if they're spending the whole time sunning themselves in Mauritius. Well, maybe a few grandee Tories are.
resentment, resentment go away come back another day!
Anonymous 10.24 has a point, so here's a different take on it.
The Parliamentary recesses and Fridays are when most MPs get most of their important work done, attending to constituency issues in which they actually have the power to do some good.
For the rest of the time, they are effectively on holiday, swanning around the delightful surroundings of the Commons, enjoying its subsidized restaurants and bars, and indulging the fantasy that they can actually change things.
Cynical? Well, no more so than the idea that MPs spend the summer recesses sat on their arses at home or sunning themselves on a beach somewhere.
resentment, resentment go away....come back another day?!
resentment, resentment go away....come back another day (not).
That is enough resentment.
If they want so much time off maybe they should all become teachers.... oh, wait erm...
I take it running a nation isn't that important at all. I mean, who wants to pass bills in the summer when you could be sipping on a Bloody Mary and enjoying a BBQ? Do what the rest of the nation does and GET BACK TO WORK!
I take it you didn't bother reading the previous comments before posting. Fine.
Do we actually want them having more time legislating?
Methinks Guido has picked another 'opinion-divider' issue here....the fact is that some MPs work a 90-hour week (seriously - I can personally vouch for this), and others can get by with as little as 20. (And then there is Prescott....) The difference comes in the amount of constituency surgeries and resultant casework handled, and letters to Ministers, also Adjournment Debates on constituency issues(which require a lot of prior MP homework.) Sitting on the benches in the Chamber is the least demanding of MP tasks in some ways - contributing to the work of a Select Committee, and taking an active role in Westminster Hall debates can often involve many more hours' concentration and hard work. Opening Fetes and 'pressing flesh'is a doddle by comparison.
You know very well they are still working but not necessarily in Westminster. London MPs don't go anywhere.
It really is frightfully unfair to snipe at Westminster's Finest in this manner.
Poor Cousin Barrington richly deserves his eleven weeks of summer respite from the huge burdens of representing Great Piddling on the Dunny, as richly indeed as he deserves the three weeks at Christmas, the three weeks at Easter, the fortnight in February, the two weeks at Whitsun...
"An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank."
Having seen both up close investment bankers work orders of magnitude harder than your average backbencher and deserve every penny they get. Investment bankers pay is directly linked to the revenue they produce for their companies (and therefore this country), the pay is highly volatile, pensions are terrible, there are almost no expenses these days, the job security is non-existent and the hours are ludicrous. I can't see how investment banking pay in any way justifies the pay/pensions/expenses/perks of backbench MP's.
Being an MP is money for old rope. I look forward to doing it when I become too old to do anything more useful.
Anon, above, said:
"An MP's basic (c. £60k per year) is abt. the same basic as an associate (25-28 year old) in an investment bank."
Why do you insist on quoting an MP's Basic salary when everyone knows that including secretarial allowances, bloated expense allowances, subsidised everything, pension benefits ordinary folk can only dream about, etc, etc. - the real figure is at least double that.
Get Real!
They are all greedy fuckers who kiss arse and roger the right people or come from the near toffy nosed bastard brigade.
THose of us at the bottom of the heap think the ones at the top are shit!!! Take mark oaten for an example.
I would not take Mark Oaten anywhere.
.... and please let's not forget the tens of thousands of Whitehall civil servants (whose numbers have increased massively under this lot) also about to embark on their ridiculously long holidays without even the pathetic excuses of "catching up with constituency work /opening fetes, etc to fall back on.
Holiday or not, Bush and Blair fiddle
While the Lebannon burns
The War Monger and his lap dog have a lot to answer for
I for one would be happy if the fuckers took 364 days a year off)(365 on leap years) less opportunity to meddle in our lives.
Scum.
My MP moonlights as a fireman!
phone cam foolery...I've oft suspected you're on a different planet but a different time zone as well?
If our MPs didn't spend so much time interfering in our lives then their long holidays might be justified. By enlarging the role of the state they give themselves more work. They should damn well suffer for it.
Perhaps we should bear in mind that when the Blair's go on holiday they don't, as a rule, pay for anything. Last time they freeloaded off another newly born sucker ... oops ... enjoyed Sir Cliff Richard's hospitality it is reputed that they contributed less to Sir Cliff's tennis charity in settlement than one might pay for a lobster dinner for two without wine, entree or dessert at Scott's of Mayfair.
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