What Has Recess Monkey Got Against Asian Tories?
The red rosette wearing political blogger Recess Monkey seems to view any non-white Tory as a class/race traitor. Now that might be factually correct in the case of the ex-Labour party candidate and "working class hero" Ray Chishti, but when has Richard/Mohamed Iltaf Sheikh ever been a Labour supporter? What has he ever done wrong?
Is it coz he is brown?
Is it coz he is brown?
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Tories = Racists, I think is the basis of his argument. The idea that people should vote for his party because of their skin colour/ethnicity is the other half of it. Perhaps he should try that on the doorstep, and see how well it goes down. I don't seem to remember any other party leader other than Michael Howard going up to Burnley to denounce the BNP just as I remember the anti-semitic poster campaign at last election. The tory party doesn't talk about race except to denounce racists, the Labour party obviously has a much more flexible policy.
"henry, durham said...
Tories = Racists"
Should have left it at that really. Afterall, it is the party of Lady Ann "Enoch" Winterton.
Guido, does this piece explain why Guido and the Donkey has gone silent? Is there trouble in paradise for you two lovers???
But surely /everyone/ knows that Labour 'owns' the ethnic minority vote. Didn't the loathsome Hattersley used to refer to 'my Asians'?
I have enjoyed the Chishti pieces on Recess Monkey. Mainly because of the comments from Anonymorons getting so terribly upset that someone has picked on Rehman and getting far to serious and wound up. Highly entertaining
The only immigrants Cameron needs to worry about are Australians sailing under american flags of convenience. If you want a dirty digger for a neighbour vote Labour.
Guido, you have asked how long Wade has left. Was yesterday's Sun headline, 'Cure for PMS on the way', complete with picture of madwoman, a clue that the red menace is on her way out ?
SERO
On Howard being the only one to denounce the BNP...
It's the "only Nixon could go to China" problem. The Tories are, in the popular imagination, more associated with racism than Labour are. That may be unfair, at least in most cases, but there is that perception. Thus, no other party leader needed to demonstrate their credentials as a non-racist because it wasn't an accusation likely to be coming their way.
This may not seem particularly just... but Howard did rather encourage it with the talk of imposing a limit on immigration in an attempt to court the "I'm not racist but-" vote; particularly since unrestrained immigration was the policy of precisely no party.
unrestrained immigration was the policy of precisely no party.
it was actually the policy of the LDs and Labour as they didn't want to set any limit
Also most support for the BNP comes from disaffected ex-Labour voters - there just aren't that many "Bring Back the Raj" Colonel Bufton-Tuftons in the tory party they're either dead, in the BNP or vote UKIP
it was actually the policy of the LDs and Labour as they didn't want to set any limit
But not wanting to set a rigid limit is not the same as "supporting unrestrained immigration." Did anyone really doubt that if the numbers doubled and the economy wasn't absorbing them quick enough (not to mention housing shortages etc) that Labour wouldn't have imposed some form of cap?
They're clearly open to the idea: look at this. It's just that they didn't think it was the issue to bang on about in their campaign literature.
You make my point Kingbongo, racist Tory voters just vote Tory (or stand for office for the tories). Racist Labour voters have to confront the fact that we won't condone racism passively or make understanding noises and if that's too much for them, they vote BNP (or Tory). This is part of the reason why the Labour vote is traditionally more susceptible to the BNP - though there is a big demographic case to do with poverty and segregation.
This is a somewhat idealistic point as there are still too many racists in the Labour Party - though they would all vbe kicked out if they spoke openly like Howarth or Winterton - and the execution of immigration policy could very well be deemed racist even if it is not in principle.
Hey ho.
This is a somewhat idealistic point as there are still too many racists in the Labour Party - though they would all vbe kicked out if they spoke openly like Howarth or Winterton
Well sign me up for the party that lets its members speak their crazy-talk openly and then deals with them (e.g Winterton) afterwards.
Why on earth would I want to be a member of the draconian thought-police labour party ? It simultaneously scares, harbours and hides its racists so well that I mistake their big hugs for a welcome when it's really an opportunity to stab me in the back.
Racist Labour voters have to confront the fact that we won't condone racism passively or make understanding noises
Racist Labour voters still vote Labour in very large numbers so there really isn't any difference -
I know it's hard for you to bear but your lot are no more free of racist voters than the tories or LimpDems (who make some VERY nasty insinuations in local campaigns whilst strongly condemning such behaviour nationally) but keep kidding yourself; it works for you in many other areas.
Did anyone really doubt that if the numbers doubled
How would we know? the government lost track so there aren't actually any figures to go on and the tories were told it was racist to suggest collecting some.
Biodun - You go girl! And let's kick Winterton and her like out of the party - they really don't belong in it.
Biodun - You go girl! And let's kick Winterton and her like out of the party - they really don't belong in it.
Er, isn't that a bit contradictory? "Tories should allow people to say what they like! Then if we don't like it we can kick them out."
That's still "thought police" - it's just that people are encouraged to keep their thoughts to themselves because they're aware of the consequences, rather than because of an active campaign.
Recess Monkey
"Racist Labour voters have to confront the fact that we won't condone racism passively or make understanding noises and if that's too much for them, they vote BNP (or Tory)"
So what was the racist anti jewish posters then with their association of Jews being sinister.
Biodun - You go girl!
I am not African-American.. but your sentiments are acknowledged ;-)
Er, isn't that a bit contradictory? "Tories should allow people to say what they like! Then if we don't like it we can kick them out."
I agree, John.. It is contradictory.
I don't think people should lose their jobs for for telling tasteless jokes or expressing their opinion.
Winterton (and her husband) should go because they are old bats who've done their time and need to stop bed-blocking seats that could be occupied by much better looking people.. :-D
I don't think people should lose their jobs for for telling tasteless jokes or expressing their opinion.
I broadly agree, but it does depend to some extent on your job. If the chief executive of Shelter was on the record as saying that he hated homeless people because they were just a bunch of parasites, people might quite fairly think he'd just shown he wasn't qualified. Similarly, I think politicians need to be very careful about showing any prejudice - because they almost certainly have to represent the interests of some of those they'll be prejudiced against.
Winterton (and her husband) should go because they are old bats who've done their time and need to stop bed-blocking seats that could be occupied by much better looking people.. :-D
At last, a Conservative policy I can get behind...
Similarly, I think politicians need to be very careful about showing any prejudice - because they almost certainly have to represent the interests of some of those they'll be prejudiced against.
In which case I present Exhibit A - the class war tendencies of John Prescott and his comrades in what remains of the trad Labour party.
The Labour party's supposed anti-recism is rather selective to say the least. Seemingly if you're the Labour Mayor of London you can make as many very thinly veiled anti Jewish remarks as you like and yet the Party makes no comment and takes no action.Would be a markedly different story if it had been remarks that might vaugely be taken to be Islamophobic of course.
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