No offence, matey, but I'm not really buying into your plagiarism claims after that little story about the Curse of Lembit. It had been used ad nauseum in papers the day before... should we give you the benefit of the doubt when you clearly read the papers long and hard enough to spot the slightest re-use of your own material? Why not confess and send all the journos who published that nugget before you a bottle of something from Paulliac? Or are you tacitly admitting that yes, sometimes the same though occurs to different people independently a day apart? You can't have it both ways - which is it to be?
Yes, Guido has learnt that the same thought occurs to a number of people, particularly now I get emails from other bloggers saying I nicked their piece etc. (I always try to hat-tip when I do.) The Lembit thing is a case in point - I'm told that Lembit himself was the first to say he was cursed on the Daily Politics.
In this particular case the journalist has emailed Guido and said he'll buy me a drink for using the idea. This is to help facilitate that transaction, it's meant to be amusing, not an invoice.
A few days ago the Beeb's Nick Robinson, The Times' Diarist and Guido all made similar slaphead jokes (with pictures) about LibDem candidates. Emails were exchanged inconclusively. Journos complain to Guido that this blog has a 5 minute reaction time, whereas they have to wait till the next day to see their work published and they consequently look derivative when it was actually their own thought.
This blog tries to be original, if Guido sees it somewhere else its a negative, not a plus. Iain Dale's blog has gone gossipy and now if he says something I try to avoid it or do it differently.
This blog gets dozens of emails a day, many giving tips, some from regular and relaible sources. But occasionally its unclear if they read it somewhere else or are the originator. That trips Guido up occasionally.
Fair enough. That was actually a thoughtful answer, although the question was what a logical fallacist would call a false dilemma; the fact is you can have it both ways, if the copying is sustained and egregious, as it has been in some cases where it is a clear cut and paste. I'm just saying that with the pace of the virtual world you may be throwing stones at your own glass house with the over-use of plagiarism charges.
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Not a bad idea...
No offence, matey, but I'm not really buying into your plagiarism claims after that little story about the Curse of Lembit. It had been used ad nauseum in papers the day before... should we give you the benefit of the doubt when you clearly read the papers long and hard enough to spot the slightest re-use of your own material? Why not confess and send all the journos who published that nugget before you a bottle of something from Paulliac? Or are you tacitly admitting that yes, sometimes the same though occurs to different people independently a day apart? You can't have it both ways - which is it to be?
Yes, Guido has learnt that the same thought occurs to a number of people, particularly now I get emails from other bloggers saying I nicked their piece etc. (I always try to hat-tip when I do.) The Lembit thing is a case in point - I'm told that Lembit himself was the first to say he was cursed on the Daily Politics.
In this particular case the journalist has emailed Guido and said he'll buy me a drink for using the idea. This is to help facilitate that transaction, it's meant to be amusing, not an invoice.
A few days ago the Beeb's Nick Robinson, The Times' Diarist and Guido all made similar slaphead jokes (with pictures) about LibDem candidates. Emails were exchanged inconclusively. Journos complain to Guido that this blog has a 5 minute reaction time, whereas they have to wait till the next day to see their work published and they consequently look derivative when it was actually their own thought.
This blog tries to be original, if Guido sees it somewhere else its a negative, not a plus. Iain Dale's blog has gone gossipy and now if he says something I try to avoid it or do it differently.
This blog gets dozens of emails a day, many giving tips, some from regular and relaible sources. But occasionally its unclear if they read it somewhere else or are the originator. That trips Guido up occasionally.
Remember it's only blogging.
"Remember it's only blogging"
Don't undervalue the medium Guido, or put yourself down [shurely shome mishtake!] - I increasingly come here first for the news.
Fair enough. That was actually a thoughtful answer, although the question was what a logical fallacist would call a false dilemma; the fact is you can have it both ways, if the copying is sustained and egregious, as it has been in some cases where it is a clear cut and paste. I'm just saying that with the pace of the virtual world you may be throwing stones at your own glass house with the over-use of plagiarism charges.
Pip pip.
"Iain Dale's blog has gone all gossipy"... Has it? I always thought it was that way inclined...
What was it? A 7% swing to the Lib-Dims!
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